Debate: Why even bother? (1 Viewer)

[Lutherman2112]

So, a

- rolling smile = not smart enough to post words. 

- post a few words = not smart enough to understand facts. 

- post analogies (my personal favorite) = stupid and doesn't apply to this topic 

- post a lot of words = beating a dead horse.

Nailed it.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

How does one know when Trump is being "authentic"?

Well I’ll start with unconstitutional propositions made off the cuff as almost automatically being what he really believes.

 

[Don't Noonan]

Noonan, don't mean this to be snarky, but do you see what has happened here?  teachable moment...you SO bought the birther story hook line and sinker. Do you see it??!!?? There were no "legit" questions. He's black. End of story. That's all that was about.

Negative 

 

[Captain Cranks]

Trump doesn't lie

When your opinion is that Trump doesn't lie, there's nothing that can be said to you that would change your opinion of him.  

 

[sho nuff]

Trump doesn't lie

When your opinion is that Trump doesn't lie, there's nothing that can be said to you that would change your opinion of him.  

Yes, that is what what democrats are fighting.  Cognitive dissonance from many out there.  Either just outbof not knowing (the definition of ignorance) or about just not caring what the truth is.  Facts don’t matter.

 

[The Commish]

I've come to the conclusion over the past couple years that debates with those inclined to support Trump and the rest of us are utterly fruitless and a waste of time.  It would be one thing if the discussions were grounded on logic, reason, and facts, but that's not what is going on.  It's just two sides talking at each other with not enough common ground or agreement on basic facts to make any meaningful difference.  Each of our 'tribes' are locked into their respective positions and not really interested in working together. 

Unfortunately, I don't see this changing anytime soon.  Instead of trying to reach those that continue to support Trump, I think our time and energy would be better served to energize those that can still be reached with facts.  Those Trumpers we're trying to reach have proven time and time again they're not listening.  So rather than shouting out them louder, I vote to rally others so that the power of the Trump supporter has been minimized. 

The 2018 election is right around the corner.  Let's do what we can to proverbially punch Trump and those who have been complicit in his actions in the mouth.  

Part of this is a group that needs to be shown what true Trump supporters are all about so it's necessary to engage Trump supporters and let them see Trump supporters on their own.  I do agree, there's a point we hit on the effectiveness scale and it's time to quit engaging, but I think it's a necessary process.  

I think we've hit critical mass.