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Debit/Credit card for teenagers (1 Viewer)

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My son just turned 16 and I want him to become more financially independent as he enters his sophomore year of HS. By that, I want him to start managing his own money. Up to this point, we pretty much give him what he needs based on discussions of his wants. I would prefer to give him an allowance and allow him to have a bit more flexibility on how to spend it. 

For those FBG's in similar situations, what have you done with your kids regarding money management? Have you given them your credit/debit card with a short leash? Have you found something online (like Greenlight?) that you like that allows for you to transfer funds easily and track their spending? 

He doesn't have his license nor is gainfully employed at this point so his income and expenses are limited. I just want to further his understanding of the value of money so he's not a complete financial dolt in a few years when we ship his ### off to college. 

 
following... I am interested in something similar for an upcoming SeaCamp trip my 13 year old has scheduled.

 
We have a 16 year old daughter who just started driving last Fall.  We wanted her to establish credit in her name so we got her a credit card in her name from one of my existing cards that had a max of $5k.  She knows this is to be used for things like gas, food, etc.  She has been good at asking if she can use for anything else.

 
My oldest (15) has a debit card linked to his bank account. We will load up some money monthly for him as his allowance (mainly used to get food when out with friends, would use it for say movies, etc. back when that was an option., etc) and will add extra at times for certain situations - for example he went riding with his younger brothers (13 and 9) and they went to a taqueria - since he was paying for them, we added extra to his account to cover it. When he turns 16 (later this year) and has a driver's license, I'll probably do something like @Don't Noonan did and get him a card on one of my accounts for gas and emergencies, especially since part of the deal if he wants me to pay for gas (hoping to hold off getting a separate car for him for a while) is that he will chauffeur his brothers to practices, etc. and basically also be on call as a parent Uber.

Re: the debit card, it's a lot more convenient than cash, and he can check his balance through the bank app (as it is his separate account). He just keeps it in his phone case.

We will probably do the same for the 13 year old soon even though he is in far fewer situations (especially currently) where he may need it.

 
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My son has a student checking account at Chase.  It is linked to my account, so I can easily make transactions if I need to, but I really haven't.  He has done pretty well for himself saving gift money and working, so he has a nice little stash building for those college years.  I can keep tabs on his transactions too.  He has a debit card with the account so he can use it as he needs.  The only transactions I really ever see him make are gas, food, and a couple times for xbox games.  But he has the card in case anything arises.  I didn't know you could put a minor's name on a credit card as Noonan describes.

 
Got our daughter a debit card when she was a high school junior. She's been very good with it, always checking first about unusual purchases. When she was a college freshman, she received a "pre-approved" credit card offer from Cap One. We were only asking for $200 credit, she goes to an elite university, and I even checked with Cap One before applying to make sure it was close to a slam dunk acceptance. Didn't want a rejection to show on her report. Sure enough, she was rejected. Ticked me off. Luckily, a day later we got an offer from Discover, which was approved right away at a limit of $1250! We've never had a problem with her over it. In addition, she enjoys receiving the monthly credit score update she gets.  

 
We have a 16 year old daughter who just started driving last Fall.  We wanted her to establish credit in her name so we got her a credit card in her name from one of my existing cards that had a max of $5k.  She knows this is to be used for things like gas, food, etc.  She has been good at asking if she can use for anything else.
This is what I've done for my 16 year old -- add him as an authorized user on my card, with very clear guidelines around usage.

He gets to benefit from the great credit my wife and I have, we review the bill with him to show him financial hygiene, budgeting, and other lessons, including the most important ones relating to a credit card: keeping balances reasonable so you can pay them, always pay on time, and always pay the full balance every month to avoid ongoing debt and disastrous fees.

 
i was just about to set up the chase, student checking account.  then the world went nuts, and nearly every branch near me, closed.  this is still the plan, just have to see if my banker is still employed.  or find a new one.

 
I've seen ads for cards for kids as young as 10-11.  I'm considering getting one for my daughter in the next year or so.  I see a lot of myself in her, and I have been a "financial dolt" for my whole life, basically.  I would like to get her financially smart from the get-go.  Hopefully.  Good to know.

 
We have a 16 year old daughter who just started driving last Fall.  We wanted her to establish credit in her name so we got her a credit card in her name from one of my existing cards that had a max of $5k.  She knows this is to be used for things like gas, food, etc.  She has been good at asking if she can use for anything else.
The trend with credit scoring has been to minimize the effect of "authorized user" accounts.  At some point it might sense for her to get a credit card account in her name with you as co-signer (co-signer basically required for someone under 21).  

 
Have you looked at Chime?  It has a decent app setup and is for all intents a lightweight overlay over Bancorp's product.  

It has some nice features for my kids like contactless and things like that.

 
My teenager has been an authorized user on my CC for quite some time. He is responsible with it. I should get him one is his name with me as co-signer. 

 
Gonna play contrarian here - don't teach him to use credit cards.  Teach him to save up for what he needs and use cash.

 
Gonna play contrarian here - don't teach him to use credit cards.  Teach him to save up for what he needs and use cash.
Gonna play contrarian to this thought.  What happens when they want to buy a house and they have no credit history?  Banks want to see credit history, even if it's having a credit card with a $5k limit that's paid off every month.  

 
Got our daughter a debit card when she was a high school junior. She's been very good with it, always checking first about unusual purchases. When she was a college freshman, she received a "pre-approved" credit card offer from Cap One. We were only asking for $200 credit, she goes to an elite university, and I even checked with Cap One before applying to make sure it was close to a slam dunk acceptance. Didn't want a rejection to show on her report. Sure enough, she was rejected. Ticked me off. Luckily, a day later we got an offer from Discover, which was approved right away at a limit of $1250! We've never had a problem with her over it. In addition, she enjoys receiving the monthly credit score update she gets.  
There are no rejections on credit reports. FYI

 
Gonna play contrarian here - don't teach him to use credit cards.  Teach him to save up for what he needs and use cash.
Sounds like someone may have been listening to Dave Ramsey. 

I disagree. Credit is part of successful personal finance. Credit, in and of itself, is not evil or a problem though many people who are not prepared to use it (aka not taught) get themselves in big trouble by using it the wrong way. Being taught how to use credit will allow them to use credit cards and other personal finance tools dealing with credit successfully. This should be along with teaching them how credit works as well as personal finance. 

Further, the sooner that they establish credit and use it correctly the better off they will be in their financial lives. Being able to qualify for the best terms for car and home loans as they become adults. 

I would argue that the intention of keeping them away from credit will likely drive them into bad financial decisions in the future or pressed into paying higher interest rates because they never established and were not taught how to properly use credit. I say this because after more than twenty years of working in financial services and working with adults with no or crappy credit... "no one ever taught me" is something I have heard countless times. Teach them. Prepare them. Set them up for success. 

 
My son just turned 16 and I want him to become more financially independent as he enters his sophomore year of HS. By that, I want him to start managing his own money. Up to this point, we pretty much give him what he needs based on discussions of his wants. I would prefer to give him an allowance and allow him to have a bit more flexibility on how to spend it. 

For those FBG's in similar situations, what have you done with your kids regarding money management? Have you given them your credit/debit card with a short leash? Have you found something online (like Greenlight?) that you like that allows for you to transfer funds easily and track their spending? 

He doesn't have his license nor is gainfully employed at this point so his income and expenses are limited. I just want to further his understanding of the value of money so he's not a complete financial dolt in a few years when we ship his ### off to college. 
My parents when I was 16 and got me my first debit card. It was in my Mom's name as well. I've had some issues on managing my account do to my Aspergers but have gotten it back to a very meaningful amount. My mom until I was 18 had access to the account to see how much I took out and spent. It was more so used for me to go out with friends to a movie or out to eat back then. With no license no need for gas or expenses a car would entail. My buddy at the same time similar situation but when he got to college he was given a credit card under his dad's name. It was limited on how much he could spend. At the time he was on scholarship close to home and had room and board from school paid for. It was suppose to be used for his books and stuff for school as well as food expenses. Only other time was in case of emergency if he didn't have cash and he was to tell his parents ASAP what the expense was.  

 
i was just about to set up the chase, student checking account.  then the world went nuts, and nearly every branch near me, closed.  this is still the plan, just have to see if my banker is still employed.  or find a new one.
Is your banker an employee of Chase? Didn't they get $25B in taxpayer's cash in the form of Coronovirus bailout money? Didn't they make $9.7 billion from stocks and bonds trading (+79% YoY) because of market rebound since March?

I think Dimon and crew are doing just fine.

 
Is your banker an employee of Chase? Didn't they get $25B in taxpayer's cash in the form of Coronovirus bailout money? Didn't they make $9.7 billion from stocks and bonds trading (+79% YoY) because of market rebound since March?

I think Dimon and crew are doing just fine.
Trust me, I get your point. 

My local branch has been closed for months.  I have gotten calls from the corporate knobs, to make sur3 I’m ok.  My concern is for the woman, that I had built a personal relationship with, that has probably been furloughed since March.  She was all fired up, to teach my daughter about money,  bank accounts, credit cards, etc.  

 
My oldest (15) has a debit card linked to his bank account. We will load up some money monthly for him as his allowance (mainly used to get food when out with friends, would use it for say movies, etc. back when that was an option., etc) and will add extra at times for certain situations - for example he went riding with his younger brothers (13 and 9) and they went to a taqueria - since he was paying for them, we added extra to his account to cover it. When he turns 16 (later this year) and has a driver's license, I'll probably do something like @Don't Noonan did and get him a card on one of my accounts for gas and emergencies, especially since part of the deal if he wants me to pay for gas (hoping to hold off getting a separate car for him for a while) is that he will chauffeur his brothers to practices, etc. and basically also be on call as a parent Uber.

Re: the debit card, it's a lot more convenient than cash, and he can check his balance through the bank app (as it is his separate account). He just keeps it in his phone case.

We will probably do the same for the 13 year old soon even though he is in far fewer situations (especially currently) where he may need it.
Are you in California?  It looks like a 16 year old can't transport passengers under 20 without an older driver.  You might want to be sure.

 
Gonna play contrarian here - don't teach him to use credit cards.  Teach him to save up for what he needs and use cash.
That's what a debit card can do.  If it's set up correctly, it's the same as cash without having to carry around the folding stuff.  And at the moment, many places prefer cashless transactions.  Kid can't use what isn't in the account, and it can be monitored if necessary.  

 
My 16 year old recently asked for a Discover card. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like they either need to be 18 or in college.

What credit cards are available for 16 year olds to get? 

 
My 16 year old recently asked for a Discover card. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like they either need to be 18 or in college.

What credit cards are available for 16 year olds to get? 
I think it may depend on the state.  Discover is known to offer cards to younger people, than the majors.  

 
There are no rejections on credit reports. FYI
Thank you. I guess, then, I just didn't want a hard inquiry to go for naught. Happy ending, thanks to Discover. Good for Discover as well: she'll be graduating from an elite university in May with lots of disposable income (presumably) and they have locked her in as a devoted and grateful customer.

 
My 16 year old recently asked for a Discover card. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like they either need to be 18 or in college.

What credit cards are available for 16 year olds to get? 
If under 18, the contract isn't legally enforceable so it's probably not a good product for a bank to offer without a co-signer.  Also, there is a rule in the Credit CARD Act that anyone under 21 needs to have a parent as co-signer unless they have the ability to repay on their own.  

 
Fear The Turtle said:
Thank you. I guess, then, I just didn't want a hard inquiry to go for naught. Happy ending, thanks to Discover. Good for Discover as well: she'll be graduating from an elite university in May with lots of disposable income (presumably) and they have locked her in as a devoted and grateful customer.
I am a fan of Discover. I only have had a card with them for about a year but customer service is awesome. 

They have the best secured card by far (I refer to clients needing help building credit). The only other card I refer other than then is because of two reasons: 1) the other card establishes credit faster 2) Discover is more conservative where the other card approves pretty much everyone as long as they are not in BK. 

Their student card is a good one too. 

 
We have a 16 year old daughter who just started driving last Fall. We wanted her to establish credit in her name so we got her a credit card in her name from one of my existing cards that had a max of $5k. She knows this is to be used for things like gas, food, etc. She has been good at asking if she can use for anything else.
This is what I've done for my 16 year old -- add him as an authorized user on my card, with very clear guidelines around usage.

He gets to benefit from the great credit my wife and I have, we review the bill with him to show him financial hygiene, budgeting, and other lessons, including the most important ones relating to a credit card: keeping balances reasonable so you can pay them, always pay on time, and always pay the full balance every month to avoid ongoing debt and disastrous fees.
This is the same thing we have done with both our kids (now they are 22 & 17).. it has worked well
 
Our local credit union has a child account that affords them use of a debit card and independence to deposit/withdraw etc. It's obviously in my name (and his) but I can see everything going on in the account.
 
For those FBG's in similar situations, what have you done with your kids regarding money management?


What I did with my godson is instill the values that all resources must be tracked and earned.

I don't believe in "allowance" I do believe in a kid getting some weekly money for basic small expenses in exchange for doing chores or the like. The best way to teach money management is to make the child responsible for something. For example, for several years, my godson, when I felt he was old enough, was responsible for taking the household grocery budget and going out and buying the food for the home. I sent away our full time chef for a while to other duties so my godson had no practical fallback option. If he wanted treats or extras, he had to work that into the budget he was given. So he had to start thinking smart and looking at his options. Buying against the weekly ads, seeing what was on special, using the various rewards and points programs, learning when he had to go early to find the best deals, figuring out how to maximize the clearance areas.

Some things he figured out on his own. Some things he figured out part of the way and needed a few pointers now and then. Some things needed full discussion. But the big issue was the mindset involved. He had to chart the expenditures, where they were going and track how prices were changing. How prices would adjust for seasonal items. Over time, I made the budget smaller and smaller. "Quarterly", if he could show he saved X amount from the budget, then he'd get a "bonus" Show me you can save and accrue the value of 15 dollars a week off the budget for a full year, while not shortchanging the essentials, at the end of the year, you get a 5 thousand dollar bonus to spend any way you like.

You know what he did at the end of the first year? Asked me how he could take that 5K and convert it into something better. Not spend it on video games or clothes or trinkets, but how to invest it. Was very proud of him for that. But the lessons were instilled. Writing it down. Everything. Tracking the expenses. Thinking about how to shift some resources from one area, if there was a small windfall in a good deal, and shift it somewhere else. If it was something like a farmer's market, how to negotiate for a better bulk deal with the owner.

Something he learned was to do without non essentials. Can't squeeze the increased price of X into the budget? Do without it. Or find a way to get it by minimizing cost elsewhere. Something is the best price of the year? Stock up, buy a lot of it. But doing that requires a surplus in reserve, which means avoiding short term gratification over a longer period of time to build up that reserve. Maybe it was cheaper to buy it online, but what about shipping cost? Well you can typically get shipping cost waived if you spend X amount, then how do you spend that amount practically and stay in the budget?

How to teach kids something, IMHO

1) Give them something of consequence. ( Figure it out or if you don't, you won't like what you eat or some other real life daily issue)

2) Give them some agency ( Let them learn from their mistakes, be there to answer questions, see what they can figure out on their own )

3) Give them something to look forward to in their future ( i.e. the point of the "bonus", do a good job, then reward yourself. But not a reward constantly, but a reward that appreciates a long period of discipline, consistency and denying some short term gratification)

4) Give them the responsibility to track and make a schedule and develop some kind of action plan. Then give them the freedom to execute that plan, good or bad. This is fundamentally about problem solving. You want kids to learn early to have a proactive problem solving mindset.

5) Give them challenge. Once I could assess that my godson had a functional "system", I threw in some wrinkles. When I believed he could handle in increase in pressure, I cut the budget. Then I raised the conditions to achieve the "bonus" I made it a "game" Life is a big game. All lessons in life are some fallout and consequence of understanding this "game" better. You want to teach a kid that he can adapt to changing circumstances and use his creativity and aggressiveness to reach a better desired outcome. I made the changes somewhat more difficult but not impossible.

6) Give them the perspective of gratitude. Was it fun to shift away from having a full time chef to powdered milk and some days of constant plain oatmeal? Not really at times. But it helped my godson understand that not everyone got to live like we lived. Not everyone gets to live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood and have their own room and bathroom. Not everyone had the opportunity to travel like we did. Not everyone can hire a tutor for things like English or science for their kid if they need help. Not every child can get into any sport/hobby and get full parental financial support to pursue it. I wanted him to learn to understand what it means when someone says, "We can't afford this" I am very rarely touched by any gesture. I appreciate them but rarely am I sentimental. Well, for one of my birthdays, the kid put together and acquired some things he knew I liked, and cooked a dinner for me. But it required him to give up some treats/extras in the budget from things he liked for himself. That meant a lot to me. More than any nice house or nice car or fancy item. The kid learned to sacrifice some things he wanted against the long haul of a year, in order to shift the resources to do something positive for someone else. But it helped me understand that he was learning how to plan and think ahead. Which were also valuable life lessons.

Aside from those handicapped and some issues with mental illness or when people become elderly, all kids need to learn that a family is like a ship. You are the Captain. And there are no passengers on this ride. Only crew. Everyone has to put in. Even if it's a smaller thing to contribute to start. Money should never be "given", it should be earned or used in the format of a practical life lesson to prepare the child for the cold brutal world after we as parents die.

IMHO, don't "give" your child anything other than practical enduring life lessons. Is it good for a child to have some luxuries? To see an occasional movie with their friends or go out to eat or buy a video game they like? Of course. But it's also important for those kids to learn the "consequence" and "labor" behind those luxuries and extras.
 

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