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Decker vs. Neson (1 Viewer)
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Sweet Love
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I would go with Nelson, BUT, as I look at my two 12 team leagues, neither is on the WW (Decker was drafted in both, and Nelson went in WW after week 1 (I grabbed him in one). In my 10 team league though, both are available, but that league is small AND has short benches, so that would be expected.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I didn't pick up Decker last week because of the unknown with Royal. I also passed on Neslon, Decker is now gone with Nelson on the waiver wire I'm not going to pass this week.
Decker for me!With Brandon Lloyd(notes) a late scratch due to a tight groin and Eddie Royal(notes) also felled by a setback to his delicate area in the first half, Decker, one of the last Denver receivers standing, proved he wouldn't go down without a fight. In total, he reeled in five receptions for 113 yards and two touchdowns against the Bengals,making a beautiful adjustment on a 52-yard strike from Kyle Orton(notes) late in the second-half.The former Golden Gopher, who worked out with Larry Fitzgerald(notes) and Orton during the lockout, isn't your run-of-the-mill one-week wonder. He's an intelligent, versatile receiver with tacky hands, above average athleticism, plus size and deceptive speed. Orton absolutely love him. From the Denver Post:
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Tony Reali
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He's on the WW in my 14 team PPR league. We do Free Agent budget though, I have $99 left to spend and I'm not sure how much to spend on him in case he was just big due to Lloyd's absence.
zamboni
Footballguy
Seems like a crapshoot - both guys have emerged as the #2 options behind guys who both had big years last year and have great chemistry with their respective QBs.
By most accounts, Nelson appears to be a very solid receiver in his own right, but Decker seems to have that it factor.
By most accounts, Nelson appears to be a very solid receiver in his own right, but Decker seems to have that it factor.
This news alone makes it Decker . Decker could be the suprise of the year.
Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post believes Eddie Royal's Week 2 groin injury could be "serious."
We've seen Jones write this both in her blog and on Twitter. An extended absence could push Eric Decker into the lineup for good opposite Brandon Lloyd. Demaryius Thomas (hand, Achilles') isn't close to returning, and Tim Tebow isn't a long-term option at slot receiver. Look for the Broncos to sign a wideout this week. They opened the year with only four healthy receivers.
Sep. 19 - 1:38 p.m. ET
Source: Denver Post
Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post believes Eddie Royal's Week 2 groin injury could be "serious."
We've seen Jones write this both in her blog and on Twitter. An extended absence could push Eric Decker into the lineup for good opposite Brandon Lloyd. Demaryius Thomas (hand, Achilles') isn't close to returning, and Tim Tebow isn't a long-term option at slot receiver. Look for the Broncos to sign a wideout this week. They opened the year with only four healthy receivers.
Sep. 19 - 1:38 p.m. ET
Source: Denver Post
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thanks, I would not be surprised if Decker is the Lloyd of last year. In a PPR league, Decker, currently has more points than Larry Fitzgerald, Jennings, Wayne, Desean Jackson, Roddy White, and he is within 4 points of Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Vincent Jackson and Marshall.
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packersfan
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Just posted about the Royal injury in the WW thread. I think that vaults Decker ahead of Nelson (and Moore). All three are available in my league and I'm ranking them Decker, Moore and Nelson for my blind bidding.
He performed well last year when he finally hit the field after a Lisfranc injury, a ligament tear where the first two toes are held in place. Decker averaged 17.7 yards on six catches with a score; he has picked up right where he left off. On Sunday, Decker caught five balls for 113 yards and two scores. He now has eight catches for 166 yards and two TDs this season. He also has opportunity. Brandon Lloyd (hamstring) did not play on Sunday as a late scratch and Eddie Royal (groin) was injured during the game. Decker had no problem sliding in and making the most of his chances. He is big receiver at 6-3, 218, and his only knock would be that he has fumbling issues — four fumbles, two lost in nine career games played so far.
source: http://www.athlonsports.com/columns/waiver-wire/fantasy-football-waiver-wire-week-3
source: http://www.athlonsports.com/columns/waiver-wire/fantasy-football-waiver-wire-week-3
Hue G
Footballguy
I wouldn't count on that but I do think he would/could look a lot better opposite Lloyd than Royal, Royal is kind of a poor mans Lloyd while Decker is a bigger target a very good route runner and has great hands'emge said:'damageinc said:
Decker may remind some of Fitzy, but he reminds me more of Miles Austin. Big, physical, and as mentioned previously....He just seems to have the unmistakable will to succeed, no matter what
Nelson is on my list too, but I think people will be disappointed when Decker keeps having these huge games that you can just ride at times, and Nelson does not. Plus I think no one thought Austin would have a chance when he did, but when he did, he just burst on to the scene
Nelson is on my list too, but I think people will be disappointed when Decker keeps having these huge games that you can just ride at times, and Nelson does not. Plus I think no one thought Austin would have a chance when he did, but when he did, he just burst on to the scene
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Khy
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Think it's worthwhile dropping Jacoby Ford for Nelson? Already holding (and playing this week) Decker, with Ford's injury he may not play for a few weeks. That coupled with Moore's performance makes me think that Ford isn't worth what he was going into the season.
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I dropped Jacoby for Decker when he got hurt, but I do not think you can drop him for Nelson. In my opinion the injury to Jacoby was sort of a blessing in disguise. It allowed Moore to get on the field and show what he can do. I think when Ford does get back on the field, then Oakland may have something akin to the D.Jackson/J.Maclin duo. It remains to be seen if Raiders/Al davis will be so stubborn that they insist on putting Heyward-Bey out there. I hope that Hugh Jackson sees what he has with these two young WR, Plus DMC. It seems like the Raiders could be a Vick/Mccoy/Djax/Maclin LIGHT style offense. So, I would think that you have to hang on to Ford just to see if they can go without screwing it up
Sabertooth
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I prefer Nelson because Buffalo is winning games and he's a big part of that. There is no QB contraversy, there is no injured WR1 in Buffalo. They are playing with a full deck there and Nelson is a part of that formula. Whereas the formula for Decker's production has a lot more variables with Lloyd out and the virtual certainty that Tebow will get some work at some point.
But all that said, it is razor thin. My preference (and I own both thanks to Pasquino's awesome Hunting for Brandon Lloyd thread) is Nelson because of his more stable situation.
But all that said, it is razor thin. My preference (and I own both thanks to Pasquino's awesome Hunting for Brandon Lloyd thread) is Nelson because of his more stable situation.
packersfan
Footballguy
QB play also factors in. Fitzpatrick has it going. Whether he can sustain it remains to be seen but he's playing at a high level. That favors Nelson. Orton has been a solid QB2 in fantasy and I doubt he's in any immediate danger of losing his job but he's never been able to sustain a consistent level of play and should he struggle and the Broncos string a number of losses together his job will be in jeopardy. If you think Brady Quinn can get the job done (my guess is he would replace Orton before Tebow) then there's no reason to be concerned. If you're concerned about a passing game downgrade, then that lowers Decker's potential.
I like both guys and will be bidding on both this week but after thinking about this more I'm giving Nelson the current edge - albeit slightly. I think he's in a more stable situation at the present time.
I like both guys and will be bidding on both this week but after thinking about this more I'm giving Nelson the current edge - albeit slightly. I think he's in a more stable situation at the present time.
Jayrod
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Why would the Broncos pull Orton for Quinn just because of their record? Unless Orton is playing poorly, the only reason they'll switch is to see Tebow in action. Orton is not the problem with the Broncos.
packersfan
Footballguy
I think Fox and Elway are both stubborn guys and there's something about Tebow they obviously don't like. My guess is if Orton does get benched they'd go to Quinn if for no other reason than to prove a point.
skillz
Footballguy
This is how I have them ranked too.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I was considering either Nelson or Decker this time last Saturday. I like both players situations. But Decker is the more talented guy. I think he has much more upside, and can carry that team's targets, receptions, and even TD's. Regardless of Lloyd's situation. Decker's more valuable. Nelson's value lies in his increasing targets, but he's not an exciting talent that could take over as a WR#1 should Steve Johnson go down. Decker could be a WR#1 in the absense of Lloyd and that tips the scales in his favor.
Glad I don't have to bid my WW budget, as I was able to pick up Decker for FREE (Thanks Pasquino). I wish I had also picked up Nelson, but 20/20 is hindsight. I won't blow my WW wad on Nelson, because the price is going to be too high for steady, but limited upside. If it was Decker on the WW, I'd blow my entire budget, ditto for Moore. I'll be putting in a modest bid (20% of total budget) for Nelson, and probably won't get him.
Glad I don't have to bid my WW budget, as I was able to pick up Decker for FREE (Thanks Pasquino). I wish I had also picked up Nelson, but 20/20 is hindsight. I won't blow my WW wad on Nelson, because the price is going to be too high for steady, but limited upside. If it was Decker on the WW, I'd blow my entire budget, ditto for Moore. I'll be putting in a modest bid (20% of total budget) for Nelson, and probably won't get him.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I agree with this. Nelson looked like a guy who will be used to sit down in zones and make those little first down catches. He should also be used in the redzone at 6'5"
packersfan
Footballguy
I keep flip-flopping Nelson and Decker. It's real close in my opinion and I keep going back and forth as to which one I like more. I'll probably keep flip-flopping them for the next 48 hours before I have to make my final bids.
doowain
Footballguy
In dynasty, I'd add Nelson, if only for the Demaryius factor. Thomas is the most talented WR on the Broncos IMO (including Lloyd) and Decker will soon enough be relegated to the #3 option. Then, he also has to contend with Royal (when he comes back) and Julius Thomas (when he comes back).
In redraft, it's a coinflip and I'd lean Decker.
In redraft, it's a coinflip and I'd lean Decker.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Good posting but you actually further demonstrate his bullet point on Decker having a less stable QB situation. This isn't about Quinn vs. Tebow, it is about Decker vs. Nelson. And Decker's situation has far more uncertainty attached.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Right now I'd cut Evans or Ford for either. Meachem is a coin flip and I hesitate to cut Burleson for either.I'd rank them - BurlesonNelsonDeckerMeachemEvansFord
Sabertooth
Footballguy
This could happen. However McGahee just put up a hundy on the ground too. Leon Hall had nothing for him this weekend.
Seems like the debate in many leagues includes D. Moore. Evan Silva of RotoWorld is making a good case for David Nelson on Twitter (@Evansilva). Need to put in bids tonight, but at the moment, I'm leaning, Nelson, Decker, and then Moore. Moore feels like a deep threat, boom/bust WR. Nelson/Decker seem to command ball all over the field. Plus for Decker is his punt return skills. I think EBF or SSOG was saying that a player that can return punts suggests skills that translate well to being a good WR (shiftiness, hands, vision). Still leaning Nelson because of the offense, Stevie's injury, and red zone size.
Where would Jerome Simpson figure in here (in a non PPR)?
I'd rank 'em like so:
Decker
D.Moore
Simpson
Nelson
But that's mainly because I know nothing about Nelson and still have my doubts about Buffalo. They've faced KC, who aren't even trying, and OAK, who never travel east well. That screams mirage to me. Of course, they get NE this week, which is almost as inviting...
I'd rank 'em like so:
Decker
D.Moore
Simpson
Nelson
But that's mainly because I know nothing about Nelson and still have my doubts about Buffalo. They've faced KC, who aren't even trying, and OAK, who never travel east well. That screams mirage to me. Of course, they get NE this week, which is almost as inviting...
I'd rank:Simpon or Nelson (because they are more permanent fixtures to the starting offense).D. Moore or Decker (may get bumped back if starters heal)Where would Jerome Simpson figure in here (in a non PPR)?I'd rank 'em like soeckerD.MooreSimpsonNelsonBut that's mainly because I know nothing about Nelson and still have my doubts about Buffalo. They've faced KC, who aren't even trying, and OAK, who never travel east well. That screams mirage to me. Of course, they get NE this week, which is almost as inviting...
packersfan
Footballguy
Roscoe Parrish is done for the season with an ankle injury. I don't think he was a major threat to Nelson but it is one less WR in the mix there that could potentially contend with Nelson (and Jones) for targets behind Johnson.
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