Defense by Committee (1 Viewer)

[Mister CIA]

Looking strictly for bargains, Tennessee and the Jets pair together nicely.

Week 1: @Jax

Week 2: @Balt

Week 3: Miami

Week 4: @Buffalo

Week 5 @NY Giants (not really a road game for the Jets)

Week 6: @Tampa

Week 7: @Houston

Week 8: Oakland

Week 9: Carolina (or Washington)

Week 10: Jax

Week 11: Pittsburgh

Week 12: @Dallas (Thanksgiving)

Week 13: Houston

Week 14: Cleveland

Week 15: @New England (tough matchup for fantasy playoffs; @KC is the alternative).

Week 16 Jets @ Tennessee (an appropriate end of season matchup).

I'll be watching the draft with an interest in seeing what defensive players the Jets and Titans select.

Anyone else got DBC?

 

[ImTheScientist]

IND and ATL

Week 1: @Min

Week 2: @Tenn

Week 3: @Hou

Week 4: Hou

Week 5 @Tenn or TB

Week 6: NYG

Week 7: @Jax

Week 8: @Carolina

Week 9: SF

Week 10: @Carolina

Week 11: TB

Week 12: ATL

Week 13: @STL

Week 14: NO or BAL

Week 15: @OAK or @TB

Week 16 @Arz or HOU

MONEY!

 

[Couch Potato]

I generally won't look beyond the season's first 4-6 weeks for DTBC stuff. Too much changes from year to year to get caught up in a whole season of that. And, I look for matchups against inexperienced QBs.

I noticed IND/ATL the other day (posted above) and like it a lot.

 

[Routilla]

It's never too early. I noticed NE is home weeks 14-16.

 

[massraider]

What was the recommended combo last year? MIA/NEW?

I did good with that one last season. I look forward to this years article.

 

[Chase Stuart]

What was the recommended combo last year? MIA/NEW?

I did good with that one last season. I look forward to this years article.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2006/06stuart_dtbc.php

I picked Miami and New England. Miami had an ADP of DT11, and New England an ADP of DT17. Miami ended the year ranked 5th and New England ranked 6th. That's real good.

The two teams scored 164 and 163 FPs. If you played them in the weeks I said (and weighting each team's score by 0.5 in the weeks I said both looked good), you would have scored 186 points. That would have ranked 3rd behind Baltimore (ADP5) and Chicago (ADP1). If instead of giving 0.5 you had just picked the team facing the weaker perceived opponent in the pre-season, you would have scored 180 points, which still would have ranked 3rd. If you had done all of that and played Miami against New England instead of New England against Miami in week 14 ( ), you would have scored 204 points. Had you correctly picked the right D/ST every week, you would have scored 231 points.

Either way, you had a great chance of your D/ST ranking third despite not spending a top ten pick on your D.

 

[thecardiackid]

Looking for some DBC ideas - if anyone has run the schedules

TIA if you've got something.

 

[Dirty Weasel]

Don't we have to determine what teams we consider D's to score points against first? As it sits right now, I think the best 5 teams to score your D points against are:

HOU - Schaub will think he turned vegetarian, because he'll be eating lots of green this year

MIN - Young QB, shaky WR corps, sounds like a combo for alot of blitzes by opposing D's

OAK - JaMarcus gets to learn the ropes from Josh McCown? Josh McCown?

CLE - Brady gets to learn.....

TB - Garcia's swan song was last year

If we can come to some sort of consensus on a list of teams, that would really help.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Looking for some DBC ideas - if anyone has run the schedules

TIA if you've got something.

This isn't exactly hot, but...http://www.footballguys.com/07magazinepreorder.php

There's a three page article on DTBC in the magazine.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

This isn't 100% formulated for me, but I like this duo:

Philly - Tennessee

Now Tennessee isn't going to set the world on fire (and in points vs. they could really be terrible), but they play some easy teams:

Week 1:

Week 2:

Week 3:

Week 4:

Week 5: Atlanta

Week 6: Tampa Bay

Week 7: Houston

Week 8: Oakland

Week 9: Carolina

Week 10:

Week 11:

Week 12:

Week 13: Houston

Week 14:

Week 15: Kansas City

Week 16: NY Jets

Week 17:

Atl/NYJ might be a ? mark, but let's still try and find a decent compliment here (and start with Wks 1-4):

Philly plays GB, Wash, Detroit and the Giants. I like that start.

Week 1: Green Bay

Week 2: Washington

Week 3: Detroit

Week 4: NY Giants

Week 5: Atlanta

Week 6: Tampa Bay

Week 7: Houston

Week 8: Oakland

Week 9: Carolina

Week 10: Washington

Week 11: Miami

Week 12: Not good

Week 13: Houston

Week 14: NY Giants

Week 15: Kansas City

Week 16: NY Jets

Week 17: Buffalo

Note that if you don't like TEN vs. Carolina in Week 9, Philly plays MIN.

Most of the teams on this list were drafting in the Top 10 in April.

Now in some leagues, Week 12 doesn't matter, which is great here. Philly plays NE and TEN plays Cincy - not good either way. I'd grab a waiver wire at this point and see if I couldn't do better than Philly in Weeks 12 and 14.

However, all things considered, I like this pairing, and given that Philly is about Defense 10 and TEN is in the 20s, I think you can put this together.

 

[thecardiackid]

Don't we have to determine what teams we consider D's to score points against first? As it sits right now, I think the best 5 teams to score your D points against are:HOU - Schaub will think he turned vegetarian, because he'll be eating lots of green this yearMIN - Young QB, shaky WR corps, sounds like a combo for alot of blitzes by opposing D'sOAK - JaMarcus gets to learn the ropes from Josh McCown? Josh McCown?CLE - Brady gets to learn.....TB - Garcia's swan song was last yearIf we can come to some sort of consensus on a list of teams, that would really help.

Thanks for jumping in DW. Good idea.Adding some possibilities -AZ - New coaching staff & 'system' to learn + execute w/ a unproven run game (O Line) and 2nd year qb.TN - see above (minus the new staff/system). Better O Line but worse @ RB.GB - Favre will still score some points, but his tendency to throw picks (w/ the occasional 6 the 'other way') might put the Pack here. Not to mention the state of the running game in GBDET - Lots of ?s on D + the status/recovery of KJ - which should force Kitna to pass more than even Martz wants - just to keep up.CHI - Grossman looked lost at the end of the year, and now w/ TJ gone, the somewhat unproven Benson is going to HAVE to keep D's honest. Grossman isn't the kind of QB who will take over games on his own. Their line is solid, but without the dependable running threat CHI had last season, the D's will just smother Rex - forcing the turnovers/sacks we're looking for here. This one could go either way, but w/ all the distractions in CHI already, I can see the Bears offense struggling - at least in the first half of the season. Their D will of course keep them in games, but @ this point I wouldn't mind playing vs. CHI - especially w/ the Bears on the road.

 

[thecardiackid]

Looking for some DBC ideas - if anyone has run the schedules

TIA if you've got something.

This isn't exactly hot, but...http://www.footballguys.com/07magazinepreorder.php

There's a three page article on DTBC in the magazine.

Thanks Chase, but 'the pool' is all I need It's just too bad we generally do this in the summer - when there's a lot of dynasty drafting (myself included - hence the bump) going on right now.

 

[thecardiackid]

This isn't 100% formulated for me, but I like this duohilly - Tennessee

Much appreciated JP! Unfortunately, I missed the bus on PHI already, but thanks for sharing.

 

[thecardiackid]

Maybe it's still too early for a DTBC discussion, but for all you dynasty drafters - here's one I've targeted after looking @ the 07 grid. NOTE: I'm sort of backing into this pairing after already taking MN in R22/25, but I think this one has some potential for the upcoming season. Before you call me consider this...

Comments:

MN - The best run D in the NFL last year. That might be due to the fact that they were not so great vs. the pass, but they have (arguably) the best pair of DTs in the league - run stopping wise anyway. They were near the top of the league in takeaways, added former IND safety M Doss, and get last years 1st round pick (LB Greenway) back after he was injured in TC. The issue will be can the Offense run the ball effectively, maintain drives, and keep the D off the field all game. I used them last year in a turnover / td heavy RBBC w/ the Jets - with decent results.

HOU - Average at best last year, around #24 overall. But, at least dynasty wise, they look like a unit that could show solid improvement over the next few seasons as several young players develop. They've spent 3/4 of their 1st/2nd round picks in the last 2 drafts on D. M Williams (#1 overall), D Ryans (D RoY) @ MLB, and this year w/ the 10th pick they went DT with Okoye. Yea, as a unit they have a lot to prove, but it's hard to argue the 'talent' isn't there. DBs are just OK, and turnover wise they're also average - based on last year. Pressure & sacks need to improve, but they seem to be going in the right direction. Upside = Carr is now gone - taking with him the countless sacks, stalled drives, and turnovers that helped to strain this D. I think Schaub & Green will (worst case) provide some stability and give the D some needed rest.

Now for the combined schedule ~

Week 1: HOU vs. KC (or) MN vs. ATL

Week 2: MN @ DET

Week 3: MN @ KC

Week 4: MN vs. GB

Week 5: HOU vs. MIA

Week 6: MN @ CHI (or) HOU @ JAX

Week 7: HOU vs TN

Week 8: MN vs. PHI *the worst matchup here*

Week 9: HOU @ OAK

Week 10: MN @ GB

Week 11: MN vs. OAK

Week 12: HOU @ CLE (or) MN @ NYG

Week 13: HOU @ TN (or) MN vs. DET

Week 14: MN @ SF (or) HOU vs. TB

Week 15: MN vs. CHI

Week 16: MN vs. WAS

Week 17: HOU vs. JAX (if anyone cares)

This is MN heavy, and I'm probably more bullish about playing vs. DET/MIA/TB/CHI/GB than others. During the playoff weeks - 3 home games vs. avg. offenses. It's not predictable @ this point, but a lot of these games look to be lower scoring - if you get points for pts. allowed.

OAK x 2, TN x 2, DET x 2, GB x 2, CHI x 2 - also w/ games vs. QBs w/ questions including KC, MIA, OAK, CLE, TN, SF, CHI, WAS. And, the option of 10/16 games @ home.

This is 'the poor man's' DTBC, but both are young / developing units on teams that should be improving over the next couple of years. If you don't have the stomach to pass on a TE or WR3 in the 8th round to get CHI or BAL, this pairing can be had VERY late.

Feel free to comment or tell me I'm crazy.

 

[Dirty Weasel]

I like the first 4 weeks of the NO/SD/TEN/KC combo...

1 - @ IND

2 - @ NE

3 - @NO

4 - @ SD

Yes, I am being ######ed here, but only to get people to list the teams they want their D's to face. I think this thread is a great one that can yield some awesome results, but it's kinda useless without a list of who people consider cakewalk teams.