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Denver at Arizona (Preseason week 4) (1 Viewer)

Listening to the announcers, and a couple things stood out - They said Cobbs shows a "different kind of quick" than Mike Bell, and it was intended in a good way.They said they like the way he can stutter step and then accelerate.And they said they'd like to see what he can do behind the first team OL, and they'd be shockd if he's not on the roster.
they also called him a change of pace back...not the fast kind, the bruiser kind of COP back.also - he just ran over a safety.
I didn't hear them say that - must have been before I started listening.Not sure what a bruiser type of COP back is when he's bigger, faster, and quicker than the probable starter.
I think it's like Bettis was a COP back.Cobbs w/ the 2 pt conversion, BTW.
I think the difference is that Bettis had a defined role and he did things that Parker couldn't do. Bettis was the big bruiser and Parker was the speed back.In this case, I'm not sure what Mike Bell brings to the table that Cobbs doesn't. Not sure who the better pass receiver is, but Tatum sounds like he's locked into the 3rd down type role anyways.
 
Listening to the announcers, and a couple things stood out - They said Cobbs shows a "different kind of quick" than Mike Bell, and it was intended in a good way.They said they like the way he can stutter step and then accelerate.And they said they'd like to see what he can do behind the first team OL, and they'd be shockd if he's not on the roster.
they also called him a change of pace back...not the fast kind, the bruiser kind of COP back.also - he just ran over a safety.
are you insinuating that Mike Bell is better suited than Cobbs to run between the tackles?Bell has always been extremely brittle and tends to fumble way too much. No Chance
I'm not insinuating anything...I have never seen either play, as I don't have NFL Network. All I know is what I read, and I read pretty much everything.I would, however, like to point out that MBell has now started 4 consecutive pre-season games. Cobbs has never run with the first team. That's GOTTA mean something, right?
 
Listening to the announcers, and a couple things stood out -

They said Cobbs shows a "different kind of quick" than Mike Bell, and it was intended in a good way.

They said they like the way he can stutter step and then accelerate.

And they said they'd like to see what he can do behind the first team OL, and they'd be shockd if he's not on the roster.
they also called him a change of pace back...not the fast kind, the bruiser kind of COP back.also - he just ran over a safety.
are you insinuating that Mike Bell is better suited than Cobbs to run between the tackles?Bell has always been extremely brittle and tends to fumble way too much. No Chance
The way you talk about Cobbs is he is a 1,500 / 12 TD RB. He is a 4th string running back...
 
Listening to the announcers, and a couple things stood out - They said Cobbs shows a "different kind of quick" than Mike Bell, and it was intended in a good way.They said they like the way he can stutter step and then accelerate.And they said they'd like to see what he can do behind the first team OL, and they'd be shockd if he's not on the roster.
they also called him a change of pace back...not the fast kind, the bruiser kind of COP back.also - he just ran over a safety.
are you insinuating that Mike Bell is better suited than Cobbs to run between the tackles?Bell has always been extremely brittle and tends to fumble way too much. No Chance
I'm not insinuating anything...I have never seen either play, as I don't have NFL Network. All I know is what I read, and I read pretty much everything.I would, however, like to point out that MBell has now started 4 consecutive pre-season games. Cobbs has never run with the first team. That's GOTTA mean something, right?
It definitely does.Logically, it means that Bell will at a minimum begin the year as the starter.But how much does logic count when we're talking about Shanahan? :D
 
Listening to the announcers, and a couple things stood out -

They said Cobbs shows a "different kind of quick" than Mike Bell, and it was intended in a good way.

They said they like the way he can stutter step and then accelerate.

And they said they'd like to see what he can do behind the first team OL, and they'd be shockd if he's not on the roster.
they also called him a change of pace back...not the fast kind, the bruiser kind of COP back.also - he just ran over a safety.
I didn't hear them say that - must have been before I started listening.Not sure what a bruiser type of COP back is when he's bigger, faster, and quicker than the probable starter.
I think it's like Bettis was a COP back.Cobbs w/ the 2 pt conversion, BTW.
I think the difference is that Bettis had a defined role and he did things that Parker couldn't do. Bettis was the big bruiser and Parker was the speed back.In this case, I'm not sure what Mike Bell brings to the table that Cobbs doesn't. Not sure who the better pass receiver is, but Tatum sounds like he's locked into the 3rd down type role anyways.
This is a common mis-conception. Tatum is NOT a 3rd down back - he is aweful on 3rd down. His hands are unreliable (they were last year, anyways), he doesn't block well, and he is not a tough inside runner. He is pretty much the last guy you want on the field on 3rd down. Tatum is a change of pace guy - a home run hitter, who can give defenses fits with his different speed and style.
 
Listening to the announcers, and a couple things stood out -

They said Cobbs shows a "different kind of quick" than Mike Bell, and it was intended in a good way.

They said they like the way he can stutter step and then accelerate.

And they said they'd like to see what he can do behind the first team OL, and they'd be shockd if he's not on the roster.
they also called him a change of pace back...not the fast kind, the bruiser kind of COP back.also - he just ran over a safety.
are you insinuating that Mike Bell is better suited than Cobbs to run between the tackles?Bell has always been extremely brittle and tends to fumble way too much. No Chance
The way you talk about Cobbs is he is a 1,500 / 12 TD RB. He is a 4th string running back...
Wasn't me talking... it was the Broncos announcers.And he's the 3rd string behind both Bells. If Tatum is locked into his 10-12 touch role, that makes Cobbs the backup to Mike Bell as the starter.

 
Listening to the announcers, and a couple things stood out - They said Cobbs shows a "different kind of quick" than Mike Bell, and it was intended in a good way.They said they like the way he can stutter step and then accelerate.And they said they'd like to see what he can do behind the first team OL, and they'd be shockd if he's not on the roster.
they also called him a change of pace back...not the fast kind, the bruiser kind of COP back.also - he just ran over a safety.
are you insinuating that Mike Bell is better suited than Cobbs to run between the tackles?Bell has always been extremely brittle and tends to fumble way too much. No Chance
I'm not insinuating anything...I have never seen either play, as I don't have NFL Network. All I know is what I read, and I read pretty much everything.I would, however, like to point out that MBell has now started 4 consecutive pre-season games. Cobbs has never run with the first team. That's GOTTA mean something, right?
It definitely does.Logically, it means that Bell will at a minimum begin the year as the starter.But how much does logic count when we're talking about Shanahan? :D
logic is everytihng with Shanahan. This is another common misconcpetion. The Bronco running game is very easy to understand - listen to the coaches - they don't lie. Shanahan will ALWAYS do what is best for the team. However, RB's get hurt, and sometimes Shanahan changes his mind. When he does, it is usually obvious that a change needs needs to be made.
 
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Then TBell takes the next carry...

<sigh>

They made it sound like he was really hurt. Is Tatum pushing it because of what's on the line?

4 straight carries near the goal line and punches it in.

Per announcers "he's sucking it up there...limping on his right leg"

 
T. Bell 9 48 1 22

don't panic - Tatums role is well defined already.
My thoughts exactly...1-10-ARI14 (11:27) T.Bell up the middle to ARZ 1 for 13 yards (J.Brewer).

1-10-DEN49 (11:55) T.Bell right tackle to ARZ 29 for 22 yards (A.Francisco).

 
T. Bell 9 48 1 22

don't panic - Tatums role is well defined already.
Sounded like he just exploded through some big holes for back to back big runs- about 40 yards worth.The guy's fast... give him a hole, and he'll go far.

Not a workhorse, but really good at the role they've given him.

 
T. Bell 9 48 1 22

don't panic - Tatums role is well defined already.
Sounded like he just exploded through some big holes for back to back big runs- about 40 yards worth.The guy's fast... give him a hole, and he'll go far.

Not a workhorse, but really good at the role they've given him.
Just proving that any scub can get mucho yds against the Cards scrubs -- making CornCob's outing that much less interesting.
 
T. Bell 9 48 1 22

don't panic - Tatums role is well defined already.
Sounded like he just exploded through some big holes for back to back big runs- about 40 yards worth.The guy's fast... give him a hole, and he'll go far.

Not a workhorse, but really good at the role they've given him.
Just proving that any scub can get mucho yds against the Cards scrubs -- making CornCob's outing that much less interesting.
What makes Cobbs interesting isn't his lines from preseason games... at least not to me.I liked him in college, and when he's healthy, he runs very, very well. He's bigger, faster, and quicker than Mike Bell, and at some point this year, he's going to get an opportunity.

 
What is interesting right now, is that Cobbs and TBell have rotated posessions all second half. No MBell, no RDayne.

MBells absence here means Shanahan has seen enough and knows what he needs to know. RDaynes absence means to me that he probably won't make the 53 man roster.

 
Are we talking about the same Cedric Cobb that couldn't beat out Heath Evans, Patrick Pass, Kevin Faulk, etc. in New England. Not that we should put much stock in that - Belichick and Pioli are really bad talent evaluators.

BTW, how is it that the same folks that say you gotta get Cobb over MBell because he is talented and will eventually win the job are often the ones saying, "Coach K said Lundy is the starter, so you're an idiot to think Morency is more talented and will eventually the job"?

 
What is interesting right now, is that Cobbs and TBell have rotated posessions all second half. No MBell, no RDayne.MBells absence here means Shanahan has seen enough and knows what he needs to know. RDaynes absence means to me that he probably won't make the 53 man roster.
:goodposting:
 
What is interesting right now, is that Cobbs and TBell have rotated posessions all second half. No MBell, no RDayne.MBells absence here means Shanahan has seen enough and knows what he needs to know. RDaynes absence means to me that he probably won't make the 53 man roster.
I take it Back...MBell in now...39 yard run.
 
1-10-DEN 28 (3:46) M.Bell up the middle to ARZ 34 for 38 yards (D.Hunter).

Ok, now we can say with confidence that the stats in the second half are pretty meaningless. The Cards 3rd/4th stringers are awful.

 
1-10-DEN 28 (3:46) M.Bell up the middle to ARZ 34 for 38 yards (D.Hunter).Ok, now we can say with confidence that the stats in the second half are pretty meaningless. The Cards 3rd/4th stringers are awful.
I agree. So what the hell is Shanny waiting to see? Or is he just like, trying to sell a RB to another team?
 
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1-10-DEN 28 (3:46) M.Bell up the middle to ARZ 34 for 38 yards (D.Hunter).Ok, now we can say with confidence that the stats in the second half are pretty meaningless. The Cards 3rd/4th stringers are awful.
only meaningful in that CornCob could barely manage 4 ypc against the bums while the Bells are tearing off long runs left and right..
 
1-10-DEN 28 (3:46) M.Bell up the middle to ARZ 34 for 38 yards (D.Hunter).

1-10-ARI 34 (2:58) M.Bell right end to ARZ 25 for 9 yards (D.Hunter, Bra.Johnson). PENALTY on DEN-C.Mustard, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at ARZ 34 - No Play.

1-20-ARI 44 (2:51) M.Bell right end to ARZ 40 for 4 yards (Ma.Brown).

2-16-ARI 40 (2:07) M.Bell left tackle to ARZ 35 for 5 yards (A.Schable).

And he lost 9 yards to a penalty. Yeah, this guy is going to get passed up by Cobb.

 
1-10-DEN 28 (3:46) M.Bell up the middle to ARZ 34 for 38 yards (D.Hunter).1-10-ARI 34 (2:58) M.Bell right end to ARZ 25 for 9 yards (D.Hunter, Bra.Johnson). PENALTY on DEN-C.Mustard, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at ARZ 34 - No Play.1-20-ARI 44 (2:51) M.Bell right end to ARZ 40 for 4 yards (Ma.Brown).2-16-ARI 40 (2:07) M.Bell left tackle to ARZ 35 for 5 yards (A.Schable).And he lost 9 yards to a penalty. Yeah, this guy is going to get passed up by Cobb.
Blast that Col. Mustard!
 
1-10-DEN 28 (3:46) M.Bell up the middle to ARZ 34 for 38 yards (D.Hunter).1-10-ARI 34 (2:58) M.Bell right end to ARZ 25 for 9 yards (D.Hunter, Bra.Johnson). PENALTY on DEN-C.Mustard, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at ARZ 34 - No Play.1-20-ARI 44 (2:51) M.Bell right end to ARZ 40 for 4 yards (Ma.Brown).2-16-ARI 40 (2:07) M.Bell left tackle to ARZ 35 for 5 yards (A.Schable).And he lost 9 yards to a penalty. Yeah, this guy is going to get passed up by Cobb.
Not in the first week, no.
 
Mike Bell = 9 for 74 = 8.6

Tatum Bell = 9 for 48 = 5.3

Cedric Cobbs = 8 for 34 = 4.25

Looks like a good all-around backfield.

 
If Cobbs can go for 50+ with a TD, I'd have to assume that he will have won himself a starting gig somewhere in the league, if not in Denver. One of the most patient and disciplined backs I've seen in a long time, and has a stiff arm that has reached legendary status. Once said that this kid could stop traffic with one of those patented straight arms
Dayne coud do that. Against starters, too!
from my own observations and personal insight, I would have to believe that it's a one-horse race right now and everyone else is fighting for the right to be Dayne's backup. Neither Bell, nor Cobbs can be counted on to carry to rock 20-25 times a game at this point in their careerShanahan is no dummy
If Dayne's starting in week 1, it's for Houston.
 

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