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Detroit Lions Training Camp Report. (1 Viewer)

Anything on the secondary ? Safeties in particular
Bullock and Kennedy are firmly entrenched as the starters. After that, it seems totally wide open. Bryant will be starting at CB and right now Stanley Wilson is the favorite to get the other starting job. Travis Fisher will likely be the nickel corner
The secondary is definitely the weakness of the team. They really need to get pressure with the front four. As for the safeties, keep a close eye on Kennedy. Kowalski speculated that he could be on a short leash unless he plays better than last year. I believe he is the starter in week one....but I will not be surprised to see him replaced during the year.
 
Calvin update....gap appears to be narrowing in negotiations

Lions' Stanton misses another practice

Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News

ALLEN PARK -- Detroit Lions rookie quarterback Drew Stanton missed training camp practice for a second straight day Monday because of a knee injury that developed Saturday.

A magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) exam was done on Stanton's knee Sunday afternoon. He was awaiting results of the exam to see if surgery was necessary, Stanton said Monday.

While Stanton's status was in doubt, the Lions appeared to be closing the gap in contract negotiations with wide receiver Calvin Johnson, their first-round pick. Indications from Lions management were that there had been substantive talks with Johnson's agent, Bus Cook, over the weekend.

However, that did not mean Johnson is close to signing. He has missed five days of camp.

Stanton's injury is an aggravation of a knee injury he suffered at Michigan State in 2003.

"It's feeling better," Stanton said. "The swelling has gone down."

He is hoping he does not need surgery, which would set him back dramatically in his development.

"I don't know (about surgery)," Stanton said. "I'm hoping not. We'll see. It's gone down significantly, the swell has. It's almost back to normal. We've got to wait and see."
 
Breaking news on Drew Stanton....arthroscopic surgery to reportedly do some cleanup from a previous injury, unoficially out 2-4 weeks. Heard on radio, no link yet.

I'll post when I hear more.

 
Link to Stanton surgery update

QB Stanton needs surgery, will be out at least a month

July 30, 2007

By GEORGE SIPPLE

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Lions president Matt Millen said this afternoon that rookie quarterback Drew Stanton will have his knee scoped to clean out cartilage. Stanton, the Lions' second-round pick, likely will be out at least a month.

Stanton tweaked his right knee Saturday and missed both practice sessions Sunday and Monday in Allen Park.

After Monday’s morning practice -- but before the results of an MRI exam were known -- Stanton said he hoped he would not need surgery.

“I’m hoping not, but we’ll see,” Stanton said. “It’s gone down significantly, the swelling has. It’s almost back to normal. I just have to kind of wait and see.”

Millen isn’t sure how long Stanton will be out.

“Keep him on the active roster and see where it goes,” Millen said. “How long it takes and how long it takes to rehab. Do it right. The knee is structurally sound. That’s not a big deal. Just a little tweak.”

Stanton tore ligaments in his right knee covering a punt against Nebraska during the Alamo Bowl at Michigan State in 2003.

But Millen said the knee was fine coming out of college and went through off-season workouts without a problem.

“When he set the one time, it tweaked odd,” Millen said. “What he had in college is not even close.”

Millen said the procedure would be done as quickly as possible.

“It’s unfortunate for the time, but it happens,” Millen said.
 
Kowaski comments on Stantons injury

Blog: Stanton's injury puts Lions in difficult position

by Tom Kowalski

Monday July 30, 2007, 5:53 PM

Drew Stanton's injury couldn't have come at a worse time.

Stanton, the Lions rookie quarterback, will undergo arthroscopic surgery on his right knee and is expected to miss about a month. The problem is that these next four weeks are the most crucial time for Stanton's early development because this is where he gets a chance to learn and improve. Once the team starts preparing for the regular season, practice reps go to the starters and Stanton goes on the backburner for the rest of the year.

The other issue is that, because Stanton will return healthy for the start of the regular season, the Lions can't "hide'' him on the injured reserve list. By league rule, a player can't be placed on IR unless he has an injury that would sideline him for at least six weeks.

That means Stanton will come back healthy enough to play, but not prepared enough to contribute in any meaningful way. Now, in reality, the No. 3 quarterback spot isn't usually a big issue because they're never active during the game so it doesn't really cost you a roster spot. But there's also a reason teams have a No. 3 quarterback on the roster. If the Lions ever get down to using their backup -- whether it's Dan Orlovsky or J.T. O'Sullivan -- head coach Rod Marinelli is going to get very nervous. If something happens to the backup, Marinelli will be forced to use a rookie who doesn't know the offense, is rusty in his timing and hasn't had a meaningful snap since July 29.
 
Calvin Johnson negotiations picking up, July 30th

Johnson negotiations pick up a bit

July 30, 2007

By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Negotiations are starting to pick up between the Lions and the agent for wide receiver Calvin Johnson, the second overall pick in this year’s NFL draft.

But it is still uncertain when Johnson will report to training camp. He has missed five days of practices.

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“We’re making some headway,” Johnson’s agent, Bus Cook, said this evening. “It’s not like we’re in a stalemate and nobody’s going to talk to anybody.”

Cook said there were numerous phone conversations and e-mail messages between the sides the last day and a half. The sides are starting to talk in more specifics.

“When you’ve got this high of a draft pick, there’s more detail,” Cook said. “It’s a slow go right now. Once we can agree on the structure, then we can move along. Hopefully, it starts moving faster.”

Cook declined to guess when Johnson might be in camp.

“We’re talking,” Lions chief operating officer Tom Lewand said. “We’re trying to make progress. We continue to work at it. They want this done. We want it done. I think most of all Calvin wants to be here, and we’re going to keep working at it as much as we can.”
 
Martz happy with offense

Right on Pace

Martz is Pleased with Detroit's Depth and Skill on the Offensive Side of the Football

By Chrissie Wywrot

Detroitlions.com

July 30, 2007

ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- Enough can’t be said about the small, yet significant, changes made to the Detroit Lions this past offseason.

After drilling his philosophy into his players throughout the 2006 season, Head Coach Rod Marinelli emerged with a clearer understanding of who had bought into it and was ready to go to battle with him.

The result has been a hard-working, passionate group of players who are able to accomplish more than they were a year ago.

The changes have been present on both sides of the football under Defensive Coordinator Joe Barry and Offensive Coordinator Mike Martz.

“It’s not remotely the same team right now,” said Martz. “Not remotely. I am very pleased with all aspects. We make our mistakes and we are learning what to do in a lot of areas, but we are talented and trying to do the right thing. That’s all you can ask.

“It’s a different team completely, a totally different team. Coach Marinelli has done a remarkable job getting this team together and getting it ready to play. They understand what we want.”

One of the major differences Martz has seen so far this year is the depth Detroit has on both sides of the of the ball.

“We don’t feel short anywhere,” he said. “We’re not trying to find somebody to play this or that to mend something, which was the case here last year certainly. We are very pleased with the personnel we have at both ends and the competition that you need.”

The most significant change in depth on the offensive side of the ball would be the offensive line. The Lions had trouble keeping linemen healthy last year and had to rotate players on a game-by-game basis, but brought in two key players in tackle George Foster and guard Edwin Mulitalo.

Both players are big and strong with past experience on successful lines.

“It affords us an opportunity to do something different in the offensive line and the running game,” said Martz. “We are more of a zone team. Jim (Colletto) has such a great way with understanding what we want to do in the running game. We are very specific with what we want to do. We are going to take advantage of the size of these guys.”

With the injury of running back Kevin Jones, the Lions also have different personnel in the backfield. Jones, who has started training camp on the PUP (physically unable to perform) list, will continue to rehab while running backs Tatum Bell, T.J. Duckett, Aveion Cason and Brian Calhoun compete for playing time.

“We have spent a great deal of time so far on the running game,” said Martz. “I think Tatum (Bell) has really stood out as well as Brian Calhoun. I’m really pleased with the running game and what we are trying to do.

“We still need to understand it a little bit better with all the different things our defense does and the adjustments we have to make, (but) for as long as we’ve been in camp, I am impressed with the progress.”

Bell has thoroughly impressed Lions’ coaches, showing that he is able to absorb information and covert on the practice field. He is passionate about the game of football and is not only hungry to get on the field, but is looking to set numerous personal bests in 2007.

“He has so much juice to him that he can just go,” said Martz. “He has taken our offense and learned it so well that he doesn’t make any mistakes. He is catching the ball extremely well. He is playing at such a high level right now; we are very pleased with him. When (Kevin Jones) comes back that is a terrific combination.”

Martz and the coaching staff are trying to utilize all of the weapons they have at running back, moving different players around to different roles. He is even trying out Duckett in a lead-blocking role, much like a fullback.

With Duckett’s massive size at 6-0 and 254 pounds, he could turn out to be a solid lead blocker if the Lions call upon him to do so.

“We’re just trying to take advantage of all the players’ strengths, and that’s a strength of his,” said Martz. “He can do anything; we’re just trying to find out what he cannot do. He has been able to do all those things very well, which I wasn’t sure whether or not he would.

“That is a different thing, asking a tailback to go in there and block like a lead blocker. He wasn’t reluctant at all. That tells you something about T.J.”

While Martz is looking forward to fitting Detroit’s new offensive pieces into his puzzle, there is one particular piece he is glad to see returning: starting quarterback Jon Kitna.

After a full year under Martz’s system and tutelage, Kitna feels his relationship with his offensive coordinator has progressed to a point of understanding exactly what is expected out of him.

It has translated into performing at a high level and Martz has been impressed with his quarterback.

“He is ready to play right now,” said Martz. “Jon (Kitna) is far enough along right now where he could start tomorrow. That is why we gave him the whole day off yesterday to rest his arm. He is playing at such a high level now, so we are trying to be careful with him. The protections and the routes, we are just working through all those things.

“There is really nothing you can give him that he can’t do right now.”

Martz attributes Kitna playing so well to him knowing the offensive system.

“He has a feel right away,” said Martz. “The recognition and reaction to what he sees is real comfortable for him. Boom, he knows the discipline of what we do and has really adapted to it.”
 
Stanton will remain on the active roster

Stanton will have knee surgery; Johnson not close to signing

Monday, July 30, 2007

By Tom Kowalski

ALLEN PARK -- Now the question is, which Detroit Lions rookie will be back in action first: wide receiver Calvin Johnson or quarterback Drew Stanton?

Johnson, the team's first-round draft pick, is holding out, with a completed contract nowhere in sight. Stanton, a second-round draft choice, is expected to miss about a month because he'll have arthroscopic surgery on his right knee soon.

Stanton injured his knee while dropping back in the pocket during a workout on Saturday. He was held out of practices on Sunday and then had an MRI test done on Monday.

"They're going to scope him, go in and clean it up, clean up the cartilage,'' Lions president Matt Millen said. "He'll be on the active roster and we'll see where it goes and how long it takes to rehab. The knee is structurally sound; it's not a big deal. It's just a tweak.''

Stanton sustained torn ligaments in the same knee in 2003 when covering a punt on special teams for Michigan State, but Millen said the two incidents aren't related.

"The good news is that it's nothing to do with the old injury,'' Millen said. "It just happens to be the same knee, but what he had in college isn't even close. That's all structurally sound. It's no different than anybody else.''

Stanton is expected to miss all four preseason games but Millen said Stanton would remain on the active roster.

Meanwhile, Johnson, the second overall pick in the NFL draft, doesn't appear close to joining the Lions. Negotiations are continuing between Lions chief operating officer Tom Lewand and Johnson's agent, Bus Cook, but not much progress has been made.

"We continue to work at it,'' Lewand said. "They want it done and we want it done and, most of all, Calvin wants to be here. We continue to trade proposals and we'll keep working until it's done.''

The holdup appears to be related to the slow negotiations between the Oakland Raiders and quarterback JaMarcus Russell, the first overall pick in the draft. Cook has said he's not necessarily waiting for the Russell deal to get done first, but he has been quoted as saying the contracts are indirectly linked.

Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz said Johnson, who has already been penciled into the starting lineup, is missing valuable practice time.

"You're getting about a month of practice in four or five days really, with everything being crammed in there,'' Martz said. "It's unfortunate that things work that way, it really is. You can't do anything about it -- you can only coach the guys who are here, so don't worry about it."

With Stanton out of the picture, the battle between Dan Orlovsky and J.T. O'Sullivan for the backup job to Jon Kitna intensifies.

"(O'Sullivan) is new. I'm trying to find out about him so we're practicing him a lot,'' Martz said. "I give him stuff that I haven't covered, just give him a play and see if he can figure it out. Guys that can do that have a little something special. He has done real well with that so I am really pleased with all three quarterbacks, at this point, who are practicing."
 
Kowalski update, July 31st

Lions Tracks: Martz confident in running game

by Tom Kowalski

Tuesday July 31, 2007, 6:20 AM

Monday's news: The team signed free agent Alan Ricard, who will be the only true fullback on the roster. Ricard, who was out of football last year, spent the previous five seasons with the Baltimore Ravens and started 30 games.

Ground gains: Offensive coordinator Mike Martz is confident that the Lions' running game will be much improved this season because of changes in the offensive line and with Tatum Bell backing up Kevin Jones at running back. "Last year, we were awful up front in a lot of respects. If you get a guy off the street and he has to start that week, he doesn't know what you are doing,'' said Martz, adding that he's been impressed with Bell so far. Jones (foot) is on the Physically Unable to Perform list and there is no timetable for his return to practice.

Coach's slant: T.J. Duckett is getting some reps at fullback, but don't read too much into it. While Duckett is expected to play that role in some two-back formations, it's not going to be his primary responsibility. Martz is notorious for moving players around during training camp to see how many different roles they can fill. Martz might see something in July that he won't use until November but he wants to make sure the player is capable of doing what's required.

Sideline view: They are saying all the right things -- "We really want Calvin Johnson to sign his contract and join the team as soon as possible'' -- but the reality is that club officials aren't that concerned about Johnson's holdout. Johnson learns quickly and has a strong work ethic, so missing a couple of weeks isn't going to significantly hinder his development.

Bumps and bruises: WR Shaun McDonald (knee) was held out of Monday's afternoon workout, but is expected back at practice today. DE Dewayne White (groin) and WR Kevin Kasper (hamstring) both remain sidelined and their status is day-to-day.

What's next: The team will continue daily workouts until their first preseason game on Aug. 9 against the Cincinnati Bengals at Ford Field (7:30 p.m.). Also, the Lions will hold an open practice at Ford Field on Saturday. Doors will open at 4:30 p.m. and practice will begin at 5 p.m. and conclude about 6:30 p.m. Admission is free to the public -- no ticket is necessary for entry. Fans can enter Ford Field at Gate A or Gate G.
 
Martz on the offense July 31st

Martz: Offensive line better, RB Bell on 'a different level'

Offensive coordinator pleased with offense, Kitna

July 31, 2007

BY GEORGE SIPPLE

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

If you're looking for signs of an improved Lions offense, consider what offensive coordinator Mike Martz had to say about quarterback Jon Kitna, running back Tatum Bell and offensive line coach Jim Colletto on Monday.

After Monday's morning session, Martz spoke to the media for the first time since training camp began in Allen Park, and he spread praise among several players and position groups.

"The effort's real good," Martz said. "The attention to detail's good.

"I think Jim Colletto's been a tremendous addition for us. He's a taskmaster -- attention to detail. I think it's really paid off in the offensive line. Pleased with the progress, really am."

Injuries and a lack of depth made the offensive line a weak link last season. The addition of veterans Edwin Mulitalo at left guard and George Foster at right tackle, plus a slimmed down Damien Woody, are encouraging signs.Martz doesn't foresee the offensive line repeating the problems it had last season.

"We had an awful lot of different guys in the offensive line throughout the season," Martz said. "And any of those types of situations that happened last year just don't have any carryover for me this year. It's just a whole different situation with that group up front. Really different guys."

Martz is also pleased with quarterback Jon Kitna, who threw for 4,208 yards with 22 interceptions and 21 touchdowns last season. Kitna was given the day off Sunday.

"Jon's far enough along, we could start tomorrow," Martz said. "We gave him the whole day off yesterday to rest his arm. We've gotta take care of him. He's playing at such a high, high level. We're trying to be careful with him. When other guys are all (aware) of protections and routes and we're just working through those things ... there's just nothing you can give him that he can't do right now."

Martz said the wide receivers have to catch up to Kitna, but they are close. He mentioned Mike Furrey, Roy Williams and Troy Walters by name.

"That first group is knocking the rust off pretty good," Martz said.

He is also pleased with what he has seen from the running backs.

"We've spent a great deal of time so far in the running game," Martz said. "I think Tatum's really stood out, as has Brian Calhoun. Real pleased with the running game and what we're trying to do. We still need to understand it a little bit better."

Martz said Bell has, in some ways, been a surprise to him.

"Tatum right now is a different level," Martz said. "He's better than I thought he'd be, to be honest with you.

"He's the whole package. ... He's got so much juice to him. He can go. He's taken our offense and learned it so well. He doesn't make any mistakes. He's catching the ball extremely well. He's playing at such a high level right now."

Having offensive depth pleases Martz.

"We don't feel short anywhere," he said. "We're not trying to find somebody to play this or that to mend something, which was the case here last year, certainly. No, we are very pleased with the personnel we have at both ends and the competition that you need."
Of note was Martz saying Calhoun has impressed, and also that he feels the improvements made in the offensive line were significant.
 
Martz on the offense July 31st

Martz: Offensive line better, RB Bell on 'a different level'

Offensive coordinator pleased with offense, Kitna

July 31, 2007

BY GEORGE SIPPLE

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

If you're looking for signs of an improved Lions offense, consider what offensive coordinator Mike Martz had to say about quarterback Jon Kitna, running back Tatum Bell and offensive line coach Jim Colletto on Monday.

After Monday's morning session, Martz spoke to the media for the first time since training camp began in Allen Park, and he spread praise among several players and position groups.

"The effort's real good," Martz said. "The attention to detail's good.

"I think Jim Colletto's been a tremendous addition for us. He's a taskmaster -- attention to detail. I think it's really paid off in the offensive line. Pleased with the progress, really am."

Injuries and a lack of depth made the offensive line a weak link last season. The addition of veterans Edwin Mulitalo at left guard and George Foster at right tackle, plus a slimmed down Damien Woody, are encouraging signs.Martz doesn't foresee the offensive line repeating the problems it had last season.

"We had an awful lot of different guys in the offensive line throughout the season," Martz said. "And any of those types of situations that happened last year just don't have any carryover for me this year. It's just a whole different situation with that group up front. Really different guys."

Martz is also pleased with quarterback Jon Kitna, who threw for 4,208 yards with 22 interceptions and 21 touchdowns last season. Kitna was given the day off Sunday.

"Jon's far enough along, we could start tomorrow," Martz said. "We gave him the whole day off yesterday to rest his arm. We've gotta take care of him. He's playing at such a high, high level. We're trying to be careful with him. When other guys are all (aware) of protections and routes and we're just working through those things ... there's just nothing you can give him that he can't do right now."

Martz said the wide receivers have to catch up to Kitna, but they are close. He mentioned Mike Furrey, Roy Williams and Troy Walters by name.

"That first group is knocking the rust off pretty good," Martz said.

He is also pleased with what he has seen from the running backs.

"We've spent a great deal of time so far in the running game," Martz said. "I think Tatum's really stood out, as has Brian Calhoun. Real pleased with the running game and what we're trying to do. We still need to understand it a little bit better."

Martz said Bell has, in some ways, been a surprise to him.

"Tatum right now is a different level," Martz said. "He's better than I thought he'd be, to be honest with you.

"He's the whole package. ... He's got so much juice to him. He can go. He's taken our offense and learned it so well. He doesn't make any mistakes. He's catching the ball extremely well. He's playing at such a high level right now."

Having offensive depth pleases Martz.

"We don't feel short anywhere," he said. "We're not trying to find somebody to play this or that to mend something, which was the case here last year, certainly. No, we are very pleased with the personnel we have at both ends and the competition that you need."
Of note was Martz saying Calhoun has impressed, and also that he feels the improvements made in the offensive line were significant.
what do you think of Calhoun . . . I didn't even know he was at a level to impress in practice - so this is a good sign . . . however, a lot of people were writing him off this year . . . I think he is a much better receiver than Bell or Duckett, so IF he is healthy then he will be a fantasy factor . . . thoughts??
 
what do you think of Calhoun . . . I didn't even know he was at a level to impress in practice - so this is a good sign . . . however, a lot of people were writing him off this year . . . I think he is a much better receiver than Bell or Duckett, so IF he is healthy then he will be a fantasy factor . . . thoughts??
Last year, and even this offseason, there was very little positive comments about him from anyone. There were some who thought the Lions would put him on PUP, or possibly IR. He must be doing enough to warrant positive comments. Everything reported around here all the way until the last couple of days was that the Lions considered him a bust. In my opinion, for fantasy, it's questionable if he makes much of an impact, but he is probably talented enough to stash, or at least keep an eye on, based on these recent developments. I personally think Bell plays a lot in passing situations because of his open field ability. I think Martz will improve Bell's receiving enough to make him a serviceable receiver. That is just my opinion.
 
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Kowalski - Tuesdays News

Lions Tracks: Lehman held out with sprained shoulder

by Tom Kowalski

Wednesday August 01, 2007, 5:21 AM

Tuesday's news: Linebacker Teddy Lehman was held out of practice after sustaining a shoulder sprain. He was scheduled to have an MRI Tuesday night and the results won't be known until today. "We're just looking at it right now," head coach Rod Marinelli said. Lehman, the only NFL rookie in 2004 to start every game, has played in just nine games the past two seasons because of injuries.

Smith making mark: The Lions don't have a pecking order among the cornerbacks yet, but Keith Smith is likely near the top of the list. "You're judged on making plays," said defensive coordinator Joe Barry. "No. 23 (Smith's jersey number) every single day, is making plays. I'm really happy with where Keith Smith's at."

No fines . . . yet: Marinelli doesn't remember how many players were fined or the amount of money lost by the Lions last year, but "it was a lot," he said. So far, no one has been fined in this camp. "There hasn't been one guy late, for anything," Marinelli said. "They're just on top of it, on top of the details, and the details will hopefully carry out there (to the practice field). Nobody wants to be the first guy (assessed a fine) right now."

Coach's slant: Defensive tackle Shaun Rogers has a way to go before he's healthy enough to help the Lions, but the coaches like what they've seen thus far. "For a guy that I heard had a little bit of a work ethic problem, I have not seen that at all," said Barry, in his first season with the Lions. "He's done everything we asked of him in the off-season, as far as working out and being involved with us. And he's doing everything now."

Bumps and bruises: Guard Damien Woody sustained a shoulder injury, although it doesn't appear to be serious. . . . Marinelli said rookie quarterback Drew Stanton had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee Tuesday morning. No timetable for his return was given.

What's next: The team will continue daily workouts until its first preseason game on Aug. 9 against the Cincinnati Bengals at Ford Field at 7:30 p.m. The Lions will hold an open practice at Ford Field on Saturday. Doors will open at 4:30 p.m. and practice will begin at 5 p.m. and conclude about 6:30 p.m. Admission is free to the public -- no ticket is necessary for entry. Fans can enter Ford Field at Gate A or Gate G.
 
Clayton says Calvin should be done by the end of the week

John Clayton appeared on the 6 p.m. SportsCenter to give an update on rookie contract negotiations. So what's up with the Lions and Calvin Johnson?

Clayton: "Well, really, it's something that's going to get done reasonably soon. The only hold up today is Bus Cook, who is Calvin Johnson's agent. (He) is with Brett Favre, who is attending a family funeral. That's holding things up for another day. Over the weekend, both sides, the Lions and Bus Cook have been working hard, and each is taking the others' position to try to get something done. That's why after today, I think they're going to get something done by Wednesday or Thursday. This is something where both sides really want to get something done. There's enough money there, it's just figuring out the right combination. I think you'll see Russell [he meant Johnson] in camp by Thursday at the latest."
 
Stanton out 2-4 weeks per Millen

Stanton expected back in 2-4 weeks

Surgery might cost third-string quarterback a chance to compete for backup job, though.

Terry Foster / The Detroit News

ALLEN PARK -- Lions rookie quarterback Drew Stanton is expected to return to the practice field before the regular season begins after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery Tuesday on his right knee. Lions president Matt Millen said Stanton could return in 2-to-4 weeks after a short procedure in which cartilage was shaved and removed.

The surgery could cost Stanton a shot at competing for the backup job behind Jon Kitna. Free-agent pickup J.T.O'Sullivan and Dan Orlovsky are competing for the backup job and the loser could be shipped out of town. The Lions are expected to keep Stanton because he was their top second-round pick in the 2007 draft.

Stanton injured his right knee during a non-contact drill while dropping back to pass. The knee swelled up over the weekend and Stanton had it checked out. He said later the swelling had subsided and was awaiting word as to when he could return to the practice field. But that all changed Monday afternoon when Stanton experienced more discomfort and was taken in for surgery.

It's the same knee he injured with Michigan State on special teams. However, doctors said the injuries are unrelated.

Johnson absent

The Lions might be without rookie wide receiver Calvin Johnson for a few more days as contract negotiations drag on. Johnson, the No. 2 pick in the draft, has missed four days of training camp. However, a base was set when the Cleveland Browns signed left tackle Joe Thomas (the No. 3 pick) for $42 million over five years with a $23 million signing bonus.

Helping out

Tight end Alan Ricard might not make the roster, but he gives the Lions another body to pound on during practice following the retirement of Eric Beverly . Ricard, 30, is a former Baltimore Raven. Tuesday was his second day of training camp.

Barry excited

It's called the Joe Barry run and jump. Defensive players are accustomed to their defensive coordinator running over and giving chest and hip bumps after a good play. Lions coach Rod Marinelli likes seeing it, too, although he said one of his assistants needed treatment after being overzealous.

"He is all up in the mix," linebacker Boss Bailey said. "He is very energetic about it and he is excited about football. Sometimes it gets tough in football and it is hot out here and sometimes you need that little punch. It is great to get that from your coordinator."

Injuries

Teddy Lehman , who is competing for a job at middle linebacker, sustained a shoulder injury in practice. The injury was in the front of the joint and happened when Lehman took on a lead block.

Tests were taken to determine the severity. The results are expected today.

"It swelled up right away," Millen said. "As far as I know, it's a sprain."

Wide receiver Roy Williams missed part of a session after being poked in the eye by cornerback Tony Beckham .

"I just got my contact lens knocked out and my eyeball came out," Williams joked. "But I am fine. No worries."

Lineman Damien Woody skipped the afternoon practice because of a shoulder injury.
 
Shaun Rogers update

Lions defensive coordinator sees no problem with Rogers

Tackle not practicing, but working hard, expected to play in season opener

August 1, 2007

BY GEORGE SIPPLE

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Lions defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is on the physically-unable-to-perform list with a knee injury, but that hasn't stopped him from impressing defensive coordinator Joe Barry.

Rogers is over his listed weight of 340 pounds, but he came to camp 20 pounds lighter than he was at the end of the off-season workouts. Barry has noticed Rogers' willingness to work off the field and likes what he sees from Rogers in meetings.

"For a guy that I heard had a little bit of a work-ethic problem, I have not seen that at all," Barry said. "He's done everything we asked of him in the off-season, as far as working out and being involved with us, and he's doing everything now."

When the rest of his teammates are practicing, Rogers is usually off to the side working with the trainers or Jason Arapoff, coordinator of physical development.

"I know he's not practicing, but you look over there and he's working his tail off," Barry said of Rogers. "He's in every meeting, he's wired in, he's taking notes, his attitude's great."

It's unclear when Rogers will come off the PUP list, but Barry doesn't expect him to miss the regular-season opener on Sept. 9 at Oakland.

"Obviously I plan on him being ready by Opening Day, of course," Barry said. "But, you know, if he gets ready before that, we're going to take him off (the PUP list) and practice him."

Barry said Rogers has made strides in losing weight.

"Shaun Rogers is a big man," Barry said. "He's a huge man. He's never going to be 305.

"I don't know what the exact numbers are. He's 20 pounds lighter than he was when we left back in June. In my mind, that's great, and he's shaving it off right now because he's working. It's hard to work out and stay in shape when you've got a knee and shoulder injury."

MORE BARRY: Rogers isn't the only veteran who has impressed Barry at camp.

"The guys have really bought in to what we're doing," Barry said. "That's all you can ask for as a coordinator. They're eager. They want to get better. They want to be the best. When you have that type of attitude, you've got a chance. We've got great veteran leadership. Having Cory Redding in camp and back around this team is great. I think Fernando Bryant and Kenoy Kennedy are providing great leadership. They want to win. They're standing up and they said, 'Hey, if you don't know how to practice, (if) you don't know how to work, watch me.' "

MONEY MAN: Coach Rod Marinelli wasn't shy about fining players last year, but things are different this season.

"It was a lot last year; I'm not going to tell you how many or how much," Marinelli said, "but we haven't had a fine yet in this camp."

Some of the players who were fined last year are gone, such as wide receiver Mike Williams. Others have simply fallen into line.

"There's not been one guy late for anything," Marinelli said. "Everybody's been on time, in the training room on time. All those little things I'm talking about, if you don't do those things it don't matter. Every little thing matters. They're just on top of it. They're on the details."

ODDS AND ENDS: Linebacker Teddy Lehman suffered a shoulder injury in the morning session. Team president Matt Millen said Lehman was to have an MRI exam later Tuesday. ... Offensive lineman Damien Woody suffered a stinger injury (pinched nerves in the neck), but Marinelli said he didn't think it was serious. Stephen Peterman took Woody's place at right guard with the first unit. ... Quarterback Drew Stanton had surgery on his right knee. "They went in and they cleaned it out," Millen said. "They got some old junk in there that they got rid of. They trimmed back a little bit of the cartilage, but they were happy with it. Now he just needs a little time to rest. Then we'll start a little rehab. Then it's a matter of how fast he heals and we'll just play it by ear."... The Lions signed fullback Alan Ricard (5-feet-11, 237 pounds). He played with the Baltimore Ravens in 2001-05 and was out of football last season.
 
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Tony, I know you follow the Lions closely. Your personal opinion, does Calvin get in by the end of the week?Thanks!
Based on what I hear, I would say end of the week, or close.
Morning AM talk radio said he's signing a deal tonite and should be at camp tomorrow.
What impact do people think Johnson is going to have? I have the third pick in my roookie draft, and am leaning toward CJ.
 
Tony, I know you follow the Lions closely. Your personal opinion, does Calvin get in by the end of the week?Thanks!
Based on what I hear, I would say end of the week, or close.
Morning AM talk radio said he's signing a deal tonite and should be at camp tomorrow.
What impact do people think Johnson is going to have? I have the third pick in my roookie draft, and am leaning toward CJ.
dynasty wise, he'll probably be worth that spot. This year though Im tempering my expectations some. He seems way over valued in re-draft.
 
Tony, I know you follow the Lions closely. Your personal opinion, does Calvin get in by the end of the week?Thanks!
Based on what I hear, I would say end of the week, or close.
Morning AM talk radio said he's signing a deal tonite and should be at camp tomorrow.
What impact do people think Johnson is going to have? I have the third pick in my roookie draft, and am leaning toward CJ.
In a rookie draft if he is available at #3 take him! I rank only Peterson ahead of him as far as rookies go.This really great news. I look forward to seeing him play and to see if the hype is justified.Edit to answer the question....I think his impact this year will be average. I see him as about the #30 WR with Top 20 upside. Long range however, I see HUGE things for this guy and the sky is the limit.
 
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What impact do people think Johnson is going to have? I have the third pick in my roookie draft, and am leaning toward CJ.
dynasty wise, he'll probably be worth that spot. This year though Im tempering my expectations some. He seems way over valued in re-draft.
Thanks, I'm building to have a good 4-5 year run, but probably am not going to leap up in the standings this year.QB: PalmerRB: Bush, Addai, Foster, MorencyWR: Fitz, Berrian, Santonio Holmes, Bryant Johnson, WilliamsonTE: KW2, VDavisLast year was our initial dynasty draft, and I went for youth since I had a low pick. It'll be interesting to see what happens.I would wish either Peterson or Lynch falls to me, but Peterson should go #1, and the two guys ahead of me are both Bills fans, so I think Lynch goes, leaving me with CJ.
 
Calvin Johnson has the upside to be the best WR in the game. Of course he has to prove it on the field, but he does not have a hole in his game, and I can't imagione this guy not becoming a stud. For me personally, there is no way I would take Lynch ahead of him. Lynch has talent, but I don't see uber stud in Lynch, and I definitely do in Calvin.

This year, I will not be surprised if he flirts with 1000 yards, and he could have impact in the red zone, even as a rookie.

 
Calvin Johnson has the upside to be the best WR in the game. Of course he has to prove it on the field, but he does not have a hole in his game, and I can't imagione this guy not becoming a stud. For me personally, there is no way I would take Lynch ahead of him. Lynch has talent, but I don't see uber stud in Lynch, and I definitely do in Calvin. This year, I will not be surprised if he flirts with 1000 yards, and he could have impact in the red zone, even as a rookie.
I agree with this, and I think he is perfectly suited for fade routes in the endzone.
 
Lions offensive line coach encouraged

Lions OL coach encouraged by starting unit

August 1, 2007

BY GEORGE SIPPLE

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Lions guard Edwin Mulitalo is excited about the chance to work again with offensive line coach Jim Colletto.

Mulitalo, 32, spent the past eight seasons with the Baltimore Ravens. He started 102 of 106 regular-season games and seven in the postseason, including Super Bowl XXXV. Colletto was Mulitalo's position coach for his first six pro seasons.

"He makes sure every little detail is correct," Mulitalo said Tuesday as the Lions continued training camp at Allen Park. "He continues hounding on that so when you get into a game situation, hopefully it becomes instinctive, the little technique stuff that offensive linemen do every day."

Colletto, who has been coaching since 1967, was the offensive line coach for the Raiders in 2005 and for UCLA last season. He was head coach at Purdue in 1991-96 and has also been an assistant at Notre Dame, Ohio State and Arizona State, where he worked for three years with Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz.

Monday, Martz called Colletto a "taskmaster." Mulitalo affirmed that description.

"After hearing his voice for so long, you try not to hear the screaming and yelling," he said. "You listen to the directions. That's the way I take it. Obviously, he's trying to get a point across. He's just trying to make sure you know where he's coming from because, ultimately, he wants us to be great players.

"I understand how he teaches and how he wants things done."

Mulitalo missed the final 12 games last season with a torn right triceps, but Colletto still believes he can be an effective starter.

"He's dependable," Colletto said. "He's a good guy. He's a team guy and he's a good addition to the group.

"We gotta get his weight down. He's a little too heavy right now, but he will. He's a little rusty. He only played four games, so he's not been playing football for a long time. He's getting back in the groove."

Colletto is also encouraged about the rest of the potential starting unit, which includes Jeff Backus at left tackle, Mulitalo at left guard, Dominic Raiola at center, Damien Woody or Stephen Peterman at right guard and George Foster at right tackle.

Mulitalo may have a big effect on Backus, who has lost track of the number of left guards he has played with over the years. The list includes Tony Semple (2001-02), Eric Beverly (2003), David Loverne (2004), Kyle Kosier (2005) and Ross Verba and Rick DeMulling for seven games each last year.

"I've always liked Michigan guys," Colletto said, referring to Backus. "He's inquisitive, which is good. We just have to help his confidence. ... Jeff's a good player. I watched all of last year's games, and he's a lot better than people give him credit for."

Colletto said Raiola is a dependable center. "He's just arrogant enough to know he wants to do it the right way, which you like in a center," Colletto said. "He wants to be the boss, and that's a tough job. He has to be aware of everything."

Then there's the slimmed-down Woody. "His weight's down, he's moving good, he's hustling," Colletto said. "He's been a good leader out there."

The Lions will have a new starting right tackle this season in Foster. He played last year in Denver and is still adjusting to the way things are done in Detroit.

"We're doing more things than what he's used to in Denver," Colletto said. "He's a real good athlete, good quickness, so I like the group right now."

The offensive line last year was ravaged by injuries and a lack of depth, but Martz believes it will be much improved this season. That's in part because of the trust he has in Colletto, with whom he worked in 1985-87 at Arizona State. Back then, Colletto was the offensive coordinator, and Martz was the quarterbacks and receivers coach.

"I know how he is and he knows how I am," Colletto said. "I have a certain way about going about doing it, and I'm going to keep doing it. I think there's a trust there. He knows I'll get my job done."
 
Tidbits from day 7 of camp

Nicholas J. Cotsonika's blog

Lions, Johnson still talking

August 1, 2007

Tidbits from Day 7 of Lions training camp:

-- The Lions and the agent for wide receiver Calvin Johnson negotiated into the night Tuesday – until about 11:30 or so – and will continue to talk today. “We’re having dialogue, and any time you have that, you have a chance to get a deal done,” Lions chief operating officer Tom Lewand said.

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-- Coach Rod Marinelli surprised the team by switching today’s morning session from a full, padded practice to a no-pads, no-helmets walkthough. It wasn’t a gift; it was a reward. Marinelli has been pleased with the Lions’ effort and execution. “I’m not Santa Claus,” Marinelli said. The veterans told the youngsters not to screw this up by taking it for granted. The Lions will practice in helmets and shorts this afternoon.

-- Linebacker Teddy Lehman has not gotten his MRI results yet, but he said his shoulder problem wasn’t serious and wouldn’t cost him much time.

-- Marinelli is looking for a fourth defensive tackle – to go along with Cory Redding, Shaun Rogers and Shaun Cody – and Langston Moore has been one of the pleasant surprises in camp.
 
Calvin update...getting closer to signing

Signs point to Johnson, Lions getting closer

Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News

ALLEN PARK -- The Detroit Lions and top draft pick Calvin Johnson appear to have narrowed the gap on financial aspects of a contract for the wide receiver, but still must negotiate on the structure and language related to the proposed deal.

Johnson was absent from training camp again Wednesday. It was the seventh day of practice he has missed.

The Lions and Johnson's agent have been talking about a six-year contract. It reportedly would be close to the contract signed last year by Saints running back Reggie Bush, who was drafted second overall. Bush got more than $26 million in guaranteed money.

There have been unconfirmed reports that the Lions' offer to Johnson included as much as $30 million in guarantees.

Tom Lewand, the Lions' chief operating officer, spoke with Johnson's agent, Bus Cook, late Tuesday night and had more talks planned for today.

Johnson attended Georgia Tech and lives near Atlanta. He has been in and out of Detroit since camp opened, and it is believed he is back in Detroit now waiting for a deal to be struck.

"I think he's as anxious as any of us are," Lewand said, adding that he did not know if Johnson is in Detroit now. "I respect that. I really want to try to move this deal forward as quickly as we possibly can."

Injury update: Middle linebacker Teddy Lehman was held out of drills Wednesday morning. He suffered a slight separation in a running drill Tuesday morning. He is not sure when he will return, Lehman said.

Practice plan: Coach Rod Marinelli had a short practice, without pads, Wednesday morning. A heavier drill was scheduled for the afternoon, Marinelli said.
 
This is a great read, although I fear all these preseason fluff quotes are making me unreasonably optimistic. I'm actually starting to believe the Lions could win 5 games this year.

 
This is a great read, although I fear all these preseason fluff quotes are making me unreasonably optimistic. I'm actually starting to believe the Lions could win 5 games this year.
:goodposting: ahhhh - the annual trials, dreams, and crushed dreams of a lions' fan!
 
Do we have a Bryan Calhoun health and performance evaluation at this point? I actually like his skill set as much as Tatum Bell's, and if he's healthy, I'd love to see those 2 go head to head for the starting (backup when Jones is healthy) role.

;)

 
Do we have a Bryan Calhoun health and performance evaluation at this point? I actually like his skill set as much as Tatum Bell's, and if he's healthy, I'd love to see those 2 go head to head for the starting (backup when Jones is healthy) role. :thumbup:
Kowalski believes the last RB spot will be either Calhoun or Aveion Cason, and he thinks special teams play will be a factor in the decision. I have not heard anything about how he looks. He has no chance to unseat Bell.
 
Kevin Jones interview

Jones yearns to join teammates on practice field

Wednesday, August 01, 2007

By Dave Hogg

ALLEN PARK -- While his Detroit Lions teammates are going through two-a-day practices, running back Kevin Jones hikes endlessly around the practice field, lapping defensive tackle Shaun Rogers every few minutes. The cardiovascular workout is great for breaking a sweat, but that's not what Jones wants to do.

"It's really weird to be walking around while everyone else is banging around," he said Wednesday. "I want to be out there with them."

Jones sustained a broken and dislocated left foot in a goal-line pileup in the Lions' 30-20 loss to Minnesota on Dec. 10. The injury ended one of his worst games as a pro -- nine carries for minus-three yards -- and ended his season three games early.

To make matters worse, he was quickly diagnosed as having a Lisfranc fracture, a notoriously slow healing injury that has kept other players sidelined for a year or more. It was the second serious injury in two years for Jones, who missed playing time in 2006 with an elbow problem.

Jones had three pins inserted into the fracture in an operation, and although two of them were removed in May, he wasn't ready to start training camp last week.

"I'm pushing myself as hard as I can," he said. "I was nervous when I first heard what I had, but I'm not now. I know I'm going to be back. I just don't know how long it will be."

While Jones is able to run and cut on the foot, he acknowledges that he isn't able to tell how well it's doing when he runs alongside the trees that line the back of the Lions' outdoor practice facility.

"Running and cutting over there is easy -- it's gone pretty well," the three-year veteran said. "But that's not even close to doing it with 21 other guys on the field, 11 of them trying to kill you."

It doesn't make things any easier for Jones to watch Tatum Bell working with the first team. Bell rushed for 1,025 yards last year with Denver before coming to the Lions in a trade for cornerback Dre Bly, so Bell is more than just an emergency option at tailback. Because of the injuries, Jones hasn't run for 1,000 years since his rookie season.

"That's competition, and I don't have a problem with it," Jones said. "I don't think they would have made that move if I hadn't gotten hurt, but they wanted to get someone in here. He's here, and he's another guy at my position. I can't worry about him."

Jones has spent most of 2007 focused on his rehabilitation, but that was brutally interrupted on April 16 when Seung-Hui Cho killed 33 people on the campus of Virginia Tech. Jones attended and played at Tech, and was planning a special event there before the shootings changed things.

"Obviously, that was horrifying," he said. "My wife and I met at Virginia Tech, and we were originally planning to have our wedding there, so I was there shortly before it happened. I haven't had a chance to go back since the tragedy, but I'm going to do a charity golf tournament there next year."

The Virginia Tech connection also means that Jones is asked questions about fellow Hokie Michael Vick, the Atlanta Falcons quarterback who has been indicted on alleged dogfighting charges. Jones is quick to point out that there's not much he can say.

"I actually know Marcus (Vick, Michael's brother) pretty well, not Michael," Jones said. "Michael was going to the NFL just as I got there (at Virginia Tech)."

Jones didn't want to discuss what the NFL should do about Vicks, but did say that he hasn't seen any evidence of mistreatment by the legal system.

"I don't think he's being treated unfairly," Jones said. "He's getting a trial to prove if he's innocent or guilty."

Jones quickly changed the subject to football and his desire to get back into offensive coordinator Mike Martz's system.

"We're really excited about this season," Jones said. "We were excited last year, too. But now we've got a better understanding of coach Martz's system, and we've got some big additions. It's going to be fun."

For Jones, though, the real fun won't start until he's back in the middle of it.
Unfortunately, not a whole lot said here. I would have liked to hear more on his progress, and what he can and can't do.
 
What impact do people think Johnson is going to have? I have the third pick in my roookie draft, and am leaning toward CJ.
dynasty wise, he'll probably be worth that spot. This year though Im tempering my expectations some. He seems way over valued in re-draft.
Thanks, I'm building to have a good 4-5 year run, but probably am not going to leap up in the standings this year.QB: PalmerRB: Bush, Addai, Foster, MorencyWR: Fitz, Berrian, Santonio Holmes, Bryant Johnson, WilliamsonTE: KW2, VDavisLast year was our initial dynasty draft, and I went for youth since I had a low pick. It'll be interesting to see what happens.I would wish either Peterson or Lynch falls to me, but Peterson should go #1, and the two guys ahead of me are both Bills fans, so I think Lynch goes, leaving me with CJ.
Thanks for posting. Please keep us updated. This is exactly the info I'm looking for when I open up a Detroit Lions Training Camp Report thread. :thumbup: Lions are having an open practice at Ford Field on Saturday. If they've got anything close to an agreement, I bet the Lions pushed to get it done to have him on the field for that.
 
Gents, all signs are pointing to Tatum Bell to start the season. Lions homers agree with this? The pre season "fluff and buff" is killing me!! Or does Tatum look that good? Thanks.

 
Gents, all signs are pointing to Tatum Bell to start the season. Lions homers agree with this? The pre season "fluff and buff" is killing me!! Or does Tatum look that good? Thanks.
I would say (personal opinion) that Kevin Jones has a 90% chance of starting the regular season on the PUP list, so that means Bell starts. I would pay close attention to this throughout the preseason. Bell reportedly looks good in camp. However, I do believe if KJ is healthy, he would start.
 
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Camp notes

TRAINING CAMP NOTES: Lions get nice surprise from Marinelli

August 2, 2007

BY NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Last year, it was Camp Marinelli. The Lions often pounded in pads twice a day. They once practiced outside in the rain. They flew cross-country the day of an exhibition at Oakland.

This year, it isn't Club Med, but it's a lot different. The Lions usually practice in pads in the morning, then work without pads in the afternoon.

Coach Rod Marinelli surprised his players Wednesday morning by switching a full, padded practice to a shorter, no-pads, no-helmets walk-through.

It wasn't a gift. "I'm not Santa Claus," Marinelli said.

Marinelli was pleased with the effort and execution he had seen the day before.

"I'm trying to teach this team to be a professional football team," Marinelli said. "No rewards unless earned. That was an extremely physical practice yesterday, but it just wasn't the physical hitting. We were in the right gaps, blocking the right guy."

Last year, Marinelli was in his first year as the Lions' head coach. He was setting a standard. He was evaluating people.

"I had to make a statement -- what I want -- and I made it hard," Marinelli said.

Marinelli kept the Lions in pads through the last week of the season. They went 3-13, but they finished with a victory at Dallas.

"There was a group of guys that stayed with it all the way and kept getting better," Marinelli said.

That group of guys is still here, while another group is gone. Marinelli says he feels he doesn't have to do what he did before.

The veterans told the youngsters not to take Wednesday's break for granted, not to slack off, to keep playing at a high level.

"It's trust," Marinelli said. "They have to trust me; I have to trust them. ... They've earned this."

JOHNSON UPDATE: The Lions and the agent for wide receiver Calvin Johnson negotiated into the night Tuesday, then continued negotiating Wednesday. But it remained uncertain when the second overall pick of this year's draft would report to camp.

"These contracts are complex," Lions chief operating officer Tom Lewand said. "We'll just keep working through all those details as fast as we can."

TOUGH TACKLES: The Lions think they have the best trio of defensive tackles in the NFL -- Cory Redding, Shaun Rogers and Shaun Cody -- and like what they have seen from Langston Moore and Jon Bradley. "I want to develop a fourth tackle, and they're both exploding right now," Marinelli said.

NOTEBOOK: Linebacker Teddy Lehman said his shoulder injury was minor. "It won't be long at all," he said. "Nothing serious. Just banged up a little bit." ...

Safety Daniel Bullocks made the play of the day -- a tumbling catch for an interception in the end zone.
 
# Jon Kitna looked extremely sharp and accurate for the first day of camp. He was very decisive in his reads, got rid of the ball quickly and was usually on target.
:confused: Last year he threw 22/23 with Detroit.He had years of 23/16 in Seattle and 26/15 in Cincy.With 20% more attempts then he had in thos two stops, 27-30 TDs seems oh-so likely.
Buyer beware: Kitna has never had two good seasons in a row.
Then this should be a great season in 2007-2008!
 
8th day update, Kitna sharp, Johnson unsigned

Nicholas J. Cotsonika's blog

Johnson still holding out

August 2, 2007

Tidbits from Day 8 of training camp:

-- Wide receiver Calvin Johnson, the second overall pick in this year’s NFL draft, continues to hold out while his agent and the Lions negotiate a contract. He is supposed to be in the Detroit area, ready to go when the deal is done. But the sides keep haggling over the structure.

- Center Dominic Raiola said the offense had a great morning session. Multiple offensive starters have said the unit is far ahead of where it was at this time last year. Like last year, the Lions installed their offense in the off-season. But this year, with most players having a season of experience in the system, things are clicking much quicker. Wide receiver Roy Williams echoed his comments from last year, when he said the Lions should score 40 points if they do what they’re supposed to do.

-- Quarterback Jon Kitna continues to have a strong camp. “Kit’s on it right now,” coach Rod Marinelli said. Offensive coordinator Mike Martz said recently that Kitna was ready to play a game right now.

-- Marinelli praised Daniel Bullocks, a second-round pick last year, who has become the starting free safety.

-- Defensive end Kalimba Edwards is making moves he wouldn’t have made last year. He is much more decisive and is finishing stronger.

-- The Lions still have not fined a single player for anything in this camp. It’s amazing, considering what happened last year – just with wide receiver Mike Williams.

-- All the positive news has some of the veteran Lions pinching themselves. They have heard this kind of thing before, too, and they have said some of it before. They’re excited, but they just want to keep quiet and keep it going.

-- Marinelli said linebacker Teddy Lehman (shoulder) was week-to-week. Kick returner Eddie Drummond sat out with a minor hip injury; he said he would be back soon.

-- If you’re thinking about attending one of the open practices Friday, Monday or Tuesday, know this: You will never get closer to the Lions. This isn’t like the Ford Field practice Saturday, where you can sit in the stands. At Allen Park, you are only, say, 25 yards from the field. You can see the team work up close. And after practice, most of the players have been good about stopping and signing autographs. Coach Rod Marinelli has walked the length of the fence after every session.

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I found some training camp transcripts. These began on July 26th, and there are a few. I'll post them here until caught up, then try to add new ones as they are posted.

Remember, these first few are older...they began last week, but there is some good information in them, so I'll post them here. The date will be in the title.

Marinelli post-practice transcripts July 26th

HEAD COACH ROD MARINELLI -- JULY 26, 2007

>> On general topics regarding the first day

“You all have the PUP, right, and all that list? The only guy that didn’t practice today, who is going to be one a day, is (Brian) Calhoun. Eventually, he’ll be in the morning, but we wanted to start him off, our practice this afternoon is a little bit shorter, and we don’t have a run drill in the afternoon. So we’re going to try to break him into it at that point.

“I like this team. I like their work. I think you guys who had a chance to watch this (practice), the tempo is good. They understand the tempo; they understand the fundamentals. You can practice like this when you have a certain practice etiquette and you understand that we’re trying to take care of each other, be smart with each other, and be physical at the same time. You can get a lot of work done that way in pads. But like I said yesterday: I’m going to be smart with them and rewards will be earned as they do a nice job for me, in terms of how we practice, I’ll reward them. I’m very pleased with what we do. It’s how we do it, what we do, and our pace and our tempo. So we’ve just got to build off that this afternoon.”

>> On who he thinks might come off the PUP first

“I think Mac, (Shaun) McDonald should be right, I think pretty soon. And not far after that is Devale (Ellis), and Shaun [Rogers] will be pretty soon. I just want to keep conditioning him right now, this is really important to me. He doesn’t need a lot of major hitting right now. I just want to get him in great condition.”

>> On how RB Tatum Bell looks in pads

“It’s a lot of what we saw in our OTAs and everything. His speed – he’s a veteran player that’s been very productive in this league, and he’s got great speed. He’s bright. We’ve acquired some really good backs, we feel good about them.”

>> On if Bell is an energy player

“Yes, he likes it. We’ve got a lot of guys like that, but he’s got real juice, especially in this system, with Mike (Martz), we start spreading people. When he breaks it, with his speed, and all of those guys, when Kevin (Jones) gets back, we’ve got guys with enough speed to really make a defense pay.”

>> On if the release of RB Shawn Bryson was a loss

“No question, but hopefully we can make sure he gets down, starts rehabbing, keeps working, and you just never know down the road. Never know.”

>> On the tempo

“We talked a lot last night about the tempo. Not looking too far down, trying to do what we do: our fundamentals, knowing our assignments and working together. Sometimes, these things can be highly competitive and there are a lot of people on the ground. I want to be competitive, but I want to be smart. There’s a certain etiquette I’m trying to get coached here, so we can be physical. They did a nice job, there’s not a lot of chatter, just a kind of a business approach is what I’m looking for.”

>> On the secondary

“I kind of saw it in the offseason, too. I think when you really understand the system and you start believing in the system, it can protect our corners. Now, the big part of it is our front. The front has got to generate pressure. I am going to keep the hat on those guys every day. This thing works when they generate chaos and havoc up-field, and it’s going to make their job easier in the back row. They’ve got to be able to just be disciplined and believe in the details, believe in the defense, trust the defense. They’ve got to trust the front and good things will happen for us. I like those guys back there. Quietly, they’re just working.”

>> On DE Kalimba Edwards saying that he needs to get to the quarterback

“Oh yeah. That’s good that he repeated that. I’ve said that about 19,000 times.”

>> On if double-digit sacks are possible for Edwards

“Yes. If we stop the run, and I think the thing that is exciting is I think our offense has got capabilities of putting some points on the board, and once you get a lead, if we can get ourselves in position to get some leads, then you can turn the front loose. You can really turn these guys in our great calls and start creating havoc. And the good thing about having chances to be a good sack team is opportunities. If you’re behind and playing the run every down, you’re not going to get opportunities.”

>> On what Edwards can do to get better

“Fundamentals. Well, what you do is show him what he can do, what he’s failing to do, and maybe it’s a detail when you make a rip move. Is your hand not high enough? How to finish the move; how to run a game correctly; how to have a certain focus and preparation on how to defeat an offensive tackle. It’s about skill development. Talent only takes you so far in this league, because the guy you’re playing against, he’s talented. So it’s the guys with the best fundamentals, who have a plan, and can play one snap at a time. That’s what this camp is about. That’s why it’s so much fun to wakeup every morning – I just can’t wait to get here… and see you (laugher).”

>> On differences between year one and two

“I think that’s where you can fail. You say: ‘Well, we’ve got this.’ I’m not going to assume it. I’m just going back, it’s like tackling. ‘Hey we tackled well this year, we’ll tackle well again this year.’ Not true. We’ve got to go work on it and all of the fundamentals, you’ve got to continue to work on. All the beliefs, or you lose them. It’s like in anything anybody does in any business. The basics and the simple things that you believe in, if you don’t work at them, you lose that skill. It’s like golf. You don’t work at it, you don’t play well: it’s the same thing – except ours just happens to be very violent.”

>> On if there is anything new with rookie WR Calvin Johnson

“No, not yet.”

>> On if they are further along than they were last year at this point

“Yeah, I just think a lot of it is muscle memory and not just the assignments but how to do it. You know me, in the offseason I like a lot of work, we do a lot. The more you do it, and you teach it, then you come back, it is space learning. You do something well for a while, hard, give them a break, and now you start again and re-teach it. That’s a great way to teach people. So we’re ahead. We know what we’re doing and we’ve just got to keep doing it.”

>> On where certain players will be lining up

“Like I was saying yesterday, we’re going to work guys around. Look at guys, and move them in and out. One of the things I really want, I’ve got to develop great depth on this team, too. You’ve got to put guys in different positions.”

>> On what G Damien Woody has to do to be a starter

“I just think be very consistent. He’s lean right now and he’s moving around well. But it’s not just him, it’s the whole team. We’ve got to be able to be consistent, and then the thing I mentioned to him out at the end of practice, I want to make sure we’re practicing and on the upswing the last ten plays. That last minute stamina. We’re in that mode, we’ve got to go do our job. I’ve got to go do our job and finish a game off.”

>> On what Woody weighed in at

“He’s right there, he really is. I’m very pleased. You’ve got to hit him, he’s down, and he looks good right now.”

>> On what DT Shaun Rogers weighed in at

“He’s getting down. He’ll be there, he’s going to get there.”

>> On the PUP players

“Devale (Ellis) is going to need a little bit of time, and (Shaun) McDonald, we wanted to make sure we watched him cut today. Then there’s some caution with Shaun (Rogers), I want to make sure, because I thought last year it hit him so fast and so hard, and he got injured. So I wanted to make sure I got him in the type of shape I want him in right now. We ran the dog out of him today. But that’s good. Other than that, I just think, Kevin (Jones), we’ve just got to see. Those things are just a pain thing, a lot of pain in that thing as they try to heal.”

>> On if he sees an improved confidence in the team

“I just see a team that, when you know what you’re doing and know kind of how you’re supposed to do it, that builds confidence. It’s a day-to-day thing. You get confidence as your steps are right and you pick up the right blitz, or you’re playing your gap. A big part of this whole game in the NFL is just being on the details and knowing what you’re doing. Then our job here in camp is how you do the job. So that’s how you build real confidence: day-to-day work.”

>> On how he likes the fans being present

“I love that now. I’ve said this from day one: I admire these fans. Because this is a tough city – I love that part. I walk through there, I just love it. They just like football. If I didn’t put the fence up there, they might’ve been on the field. But that’s a part I just admire. People who love football, I like them.”

>> On how he slept the night before

“This is really one of the great times of the year for coaches, probably not players, but for coaches it is just a great time. If you like football, and if you really enjoy this stuff, and this staff does, you can’t wait. You love meeting with your team. You want to do a great job of teaching. If that’s what you enjoy doing. Then you have a chance to come out and work on the field; there’s nothing like it. I can’t explain it to you. There’s nothing like it.”

>> On what DE Ikaika Alama-Francis needs to work on

“Well, first of all, to get aligned correctly. He couldn’t get aligned and he’s not getting off the ball well enough; he’s a little bit high. So that’s my expectations right now. Just do the little things. But, no, he’s a big, good looking athlete with a great willingness. So he’s got to get the basic stuff right now and he’ll be fine.”

>> On how important it is for the rookies to get in

“It’s like I was saying last night: it’s critical for every guy to be in, to be signed. But with Calvin, like I said, the one benefit he has is he was here all of our offseason, did a great job. He’s a quick study in terms of learning. He learns very well, very bright. I know he’s a highly conditioned guy. So if that is a guy that has to be out, he should recover very quickly when he gets back in. He did really a fine job in the offseason. We’re just working and can’t wait to get him back.”

>> On what McDonald’s and Ellis’ injuries are

“Shaun’s got some arthritis in his knee, and they looked at it and did like a scope, and then Ellis had a scope in the knee at the end of OTAs.”

>> On how RB T.J. Duckett looks

“We need to watch our tapes. Sometimes a guy makes a heck of a play, you say, ‘Half the things he did were wrong.’ So you just have got to make the day-by-day details.”

>> On if Duckett has slimmed down

“Yeah. Boy he looks good, he’s lean and he’s being in shape. He looks like he’s in very good condition. Most of this team is.”
 
Marinelli post-practice transcripts July 27th

HEAD COACH ROD MARINELLI -- JULY 27, 2007

>> On the morning’s practice

“I really liked the energy this morning. And one of my emphasis, again, like I told you the other day, is that last minute stamina. I really want to see it pick up, especially that last period, I just want to keep building, and that’s kind of relating back to the games we lost in the last two minutes of last year. So we’ve got to find a way to execute, and it’s not conditioning; it’s part of conditioning, but it’s a mental conditioning. It’s a mental toughness, and details, and believing, and trust themselves. The big thing is that I just like the energy so far. We’ve just got to go day-by-day. The only minor injury we had today I think was Dewayne White, he just got sore in his groin, and we took him out early. More precautionary than anything else. But, other than that, and I know Simeon (Rice)’s name is out there right now, and people are talking about Sim, and I have great respect for him. But I feel very good, so you understand, and I’ve said this from day one, this is a good, young front. And I think Kalimba (Edwards) has been humming, and Dewayne White we brought in, obviously. And we’ve got some good young players. So, I’m excited about this front right now, very excited. So we’re just going to keep working, I like the chemistry of the front, and I’ll just kind of leave it at that.”

>> On if they won’t bring in Rice for a physical

“Right now, that’s not something we’ve really had a chance to talk through a lot in terms of our front office, but you’ve always got to know where people’s statuses are. What they’re at health-wise, throughout the league. With any player, we do that, so we know where they’re at and what the situation is. But right now, I feel very good but I have also great respect for him.”

>> On whether Rice could add to a team

“What he brings is that he’s a rusher. A pass rusher. And that’s been his forte.”

>> On if there would be a downside to bringing Rice in

“I don’t think – there are no downsides. I’m just saying, there’re a lot of things to look at. Salary caps, all those things. There are a lot of things to look at. So, a lot of things play into it.”

>> On whether he is ‘not ruling out bringing him, you’re just saying that’s not at the top of your priority list right now’

“That’s a great way to phrase it.”

>> On whether they have enough information on Rice

“Oh, no, we don’t have enough information. Just kind of like we’ve done that (bringing them in) with a lot of players. We always, guys that there could be some interest or some value, we always want to make a check, see where they are physically.”

>> On whether they would consider bringing Rice in for a physical

“We haven’t sat down and said, ‘This is what we want to do,’ and all those things yet. But, obviously, I’m aware of him and I know what he can do.”

>> On what the players’ offseason commitment means to him

“In football, and I said it the other night, really it’s not the most talented team. Really, it’s the team that will play together. It takes talent to play this game, but it takes a team to win in this game. Part of that commitment, coming in here, I think we’ve got nice competition at a lot of positions. So, that’s a motivation to come in in shape. They understand our tempo from last year, and so they know how much running we do, how much emphasis we have on speed and conditioning. So I think that puts an emphasis, if they want to make this team, they’ve got to come in here in shape. Guys getting pulls and stuff, this system is famous for pulls, because of how much running we do. They come in in shape, and so far, so good. But it sends a strong message. It’s important.”

>> On how the carries will be split up between the backs

“I just think, that gets kind of too far down the road. Right now we’re just installing the packages. That’s, ‘Let’s see who can do it, who can be consistent, day-in and day-out.’ We’re throwing stuff at them, a tremendous amount of material each day, so I think that’s kind of down the road right now. It’s day-to-day work right now of developing this team, number one.”

>> On Tatum Bell’s speed and pass catching abilities

“Oh, my goodness. Yeah, he’s great. He really understands how to run the ball, too. He’s a downhill runner, and he’ll make those cuts and get downhill fast. And he’s a proven runner in this league, as is Kevin (Jones), as is T.J. (Duckett). And we’ve got a young (Brian) Calhoun right now showing his speed, and he can catch the ball very well also. So it’s awesome. We’re excited about it.”

>> On how Bell looks when split out

“Yeah, there’re some things he’ll learn in the system: that’s what I’m talking about, we’re learning this system as he goes on. But boy, he brings some real special skills for us right now. You’ve seen him, you can see it. Boy, all of a sudden you start getting people spread out with a four wide receiver set, and he breaks something. Ouch. I mean, the speed is good. We’ve just got to keep working at it, and you can see the vision down the road, but part of it right now is just the action we take every day.”

>> On if he assumes Jones will not be back

“No. No, you can’t assume anything. We just, every day he’s working, the trainers are pleased, he’s working hard. So I go with that everybody is going to be there and ready to go. That’s the perfect picture. And then daily, you’re working on scenarios and developing the depth at every position. That’s something I said the other day: that’s how you combat injuries in the NFL is develop your depth. And we’ve got good teachers on this staff. I just want to keep developing our players.”

>> On how hungry the team is

“All I can gauge it is how that was an explosive run drill today. Especially, you start after two or three days your body gets sore, they came in and it was a explosive, very physical. See I like energy and chatter, when it is turned towards them, not out. Taunting, I just don’t enjoy it. But when guys are making plays and they’re going to their teammates and are excited with their teammates, that’s positive energy. When there’s taunting: bad feelings, injuries. So the way they’re practicing right now, and I told them, I appreciate their efforts, how they’re working. This afternoon we’re going to go in helmets and shorts, because they’ve earned it.”

>> On if he had to pull the team back because they were ‘frisky’

“No, as long as we understand the etiquette, practice etiquette. And I’m a broken record, I say it every night, how we’re going to practice. We want to be violent, we want to be physical, we want to have skill, technique, but there’re certain things we have to take care of: we can’t dive for a loose ball because there are legs around us, we’ve got to stay away from the quarterback, we can’t search out a receiver, there’s no cutting, you’ve got to know when to pull off on defense. You’ve just got to; when we have a blitz period, how fast we come, but they can learn to go explosively fast and then kind of pull off and not hit our quarterback. And not bull-rush a back: make a move on a back, because a back in a game is going to cut you, you can’t do it out here. So those certain etiquettes you have for practice, and then I get comfortable that we can really go fast that way. And they’re very aware of it because each man out here, he owns somebody else’s career with his decisions. He holds a man’s entire career with the decisions he makes during practice. And I constantly talk to them about that, because I want to have an explosive practice like this and a smart practice. When they do that, then you’re humming, because you can work on skill: the pad level, the feet, all the things that I like.”

>> On former defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson and defensive coordinator Joe Barry

“First of all, I will talk about Donnie: he’s a special person to me and goes way back, when I coached him. Anything that went wrong was my fault, not his. And Joe comes in, and I’ve worked with Joe. The thing that’s been really good, he’s had Tony Dungy influence him, he’s the guy that hired him to Tampa. Him and Mike Tomlin both came in together. So they really understood it with coach Dungy, and then you’re with Monte Kiffin, both those guys for five years or whatever it was. Five years in that system. So he knows this system. The key is he believes in it, and he knows all the nuances. And when it’s done right, you can see our speed come alive out there. Right now, we’re fast. And we have a fast defense, but when you really know what you’re doing, you’re really fast. And now that speed is coming alive.”

>> On if they have a chance to do something special this year, as Mr. Ford talked about

“As I’ve talked to Mr. Ford, the thing I always explain to him is why I’m excited. I just don’t say, ‘Hey, I’m excited, it’s kind of neat,’ or, ‘We’re going to be good.’ I try to sit down and say, ‘These are the things I think we really have a chance to be good in, because of this acquisition, because of character here, the effort, the energy in practices. But with that, I also make statements about the areas we have to improve in: our two minute drill. We’ve got to get better there, at the end of the game. We’ve got to develop our depth better. And we’re attacking these areas, but the energy, and I just believe in team. I just always have. A team, if these guys will play together, the really good teams: the New England (Patriots), they play as teams. That (Indianapolis) Colt team, that’s a team. If we can just zero it in on team. And we’re going to have things that go wrong: we’re going to have adversity, we’re going to have injuries, we’re going to have that. But if the center of the team is strong, we’re going to have a chance to withstand that.”

>> On if they’re getting closer to a deal with Calvin Johnson

“I just talked to Tom (Lewand) this morning. Like, it’s close and then it’s not close. Tom feels it’s going to get done, I’m saying pretty soon, whatever that means. When they get it done, they’ll get it done. It’s the NFL, I understand.”

>> On if he’d be surprised if it went beyond the weekend

“Kind of, the way Tom was talking. He has a pretty good feel right now. So, hopefully it gets done.”

>> On if Damien Woody has established trust

“Yeah. When somebody says, ‘This is what I’m going to do,’ and they do it, that’s how you develop trust. It’s me, if I say I’m going to do this, and I attempt to do it and get it done, then he’s a man of his word or he’s trying to be a man of his word. If I don’t even come close, then you lose trust. He’s come in, and he’s moving well, and he’s blocking, he’s got a nice look to him.”

>> On how Woody establishing trust can affect the rest of the team

“It’s all about team building. It’s all team building. Guys come in, and they trust each other. That’s how we get better at the end of the game: trust. Trust your coaching, trust your skills, trust the defense, trust the offense, and that’s what we’ve got to be able to do.”

>> On statistics regarding turnover differential

“I couldn’t give you it (off the top of my head), but it’s dramatic in this league. If you go -3, -2, -1, +1, +2, +3, it’s staggering. I did a research project on it to show the value of what we’re talking about. I mean, this is winning and losing games, which we all know, but when you see these numbers, you go, ‘Man, that’s staggering.’ And it was an interesting thing, in the three games that we won last year, we were, I think we were +6 in that area. So it just comes down to if we can get those things done, do it right, and we’ll have a chance. And the defense is, every day, they’re stripping (the ball), they’re going after every ball, so they’re locking it in. So I can never be happy at the end of the day, right? If we turn it over, it’s, ‘ah,’ and if we don’t get them, it’s, ‘ah.’”

>> On whether creating turnovers has become more of an emphasis for the defense in practice

“It’s something we used to do in Tampa a ton. We really got after that part of it. The energy is there; the players are having fun with it.

>> On when he researched the effect of turnovers

“Before the OTAs and the mini-camps. I’ll present it one way, then I doctor it – so I’m constantly presenting it and saying the (same) information in different ways.”

>> On whether his message to the players has changed from last year

“No, (it’s the) same.”

>> On why his message is still the same

“Fundamentals – it’s a base. You have a foundation and you believe in the foundation that you have. If your foundation changes all the time, your house falls down; because you don’t have a belief in anything. I have a belief in the certain ways we do things; I have a certain belief in our offense, defense and special teams – certainly how we coach and prepare. (I have) a great belief in fundamentals, technique and skill development; a great belief in that 20-25 minute individual period everyday. I sell that. I believe in how we tackle and how we finish blocks. It’s cut and dry and that’s what I’ll do forever.”

>> On whether he can see if his message is sinking in with the players when he looks into their eyes

“It’s sinking in. You can tell when you go out and win games – that’s when it sinks in. Right now, they understand what I want and they’re going after (it). You can see a little bit of tempo and how we’re trying to do things. Once you start changing your message, you don’t have a message.”

>> On whether he changes the approach of the message

“You change the delivery of the message to make it interesting. The delivery – that’s what teaching is; that how you teach. You don’t teach in monotone and (give) the same information; you change your information but (maintain) the same value and the same meaning. You show a film of it; you doctor a film up; you show grids; you show energy. Then your coaches also repeat it in different ways; different voice inflections, different teachers, same message. “

>> On whether adding RB Tatum Bell and RB T.J. Duckett allows them to open up the running game

“No – it’s the same things. We’ve just got to do them and do them better. We have a feeling that with a good veteran offensive line and the acquisition of some of these backs that we’ve got a chance to run the ball we feel. A big part of that plays into our defense; how well we’re slamming the run; if we’re getting some turnovers; having an opportunity to get a lead; having good trust in our defense – the playcalling changes off of that.”

>> On whether he envisions RB T.J. Duckett as being mostly a short-yardage back

“He’s a physical guy and we know that but right now we just want to just teach everybody so we haven’t even gotten into goal-line (drills) yet. It’s all the basic parts of it right now.”

>> On whether he ever uses negative results and examples to project his message to the players

“You show that –but I always kind of emphasize the positive: ‘this is what we can accomplish if we do this.’ I like going that way. But there’s times where you have to show: ‘this is not what I want.’ But I always emphasize a positive approach to how we teach – but then you’ve got to call it out when it’s not right. I’ll zero that in too. I like being a positive teach.”

>> On DT Shaun Cody’s unnaturally blonde hair

“He’s got a different look every year. I’ll tell you, he had the Mohawk in the spring coming in here and I said: ‘whoa!’ Like I’ve said, I like our tackles. He’s a good player and he’s a guy that can play the ####-nose (tackle) and he can also play the under-tackle. That’s hard to do – to play both of those – because the skills are completely different.”

>> On whether he would discourage Cody from standing out individually with the hair

“I never even thought about it – believe me, I’ve been around that my whole career. I would never even give that a second-thought. Just play your gap, spring to the football and be a good team guy.”

>> On getting through the first couple of practices without any injuries

“Yeah – we have. We took (Dewayne White) out early; it was more precautionary. He started feeling (his groin) a little bit so we took him out.”

>> On what they have done to help integrate the rookies into this team

“I think the offseason was really good for that. I always have, maybe once every two-weeks or so, I have a rookie meeting and we just talk. Especially right now with what they have to go through; it’s not just learning the systems and all of that. They’re sitting there counting numbers, thinking: ‘whoa, how am I going to make this team.’ They can’t do that. You’ve just got to go in and work day-to-day-to- day-to-day and try to produce as good of film as you can. So you talk about it; you’ve got to be on them hard because their habits are off. They don’t have the habits you’re looking for; they haven’t been around it enough. So you’ve got to stay on them and by staying on them you see if the guys are thin-skinned and then you get a feel of how you need to coach them. You’ve got to coach these guys very hard initially and be very demanding on them.”

>> On the linebackers having been together as a unit for a year

“We were talking the other day, that with the (middle) linebacker position, you’ve got Teddy (Lehman) and Paris (Lenon) in there – probably one of the biggest things is trust. They’ve got to set this defense right; close it right, adjust it right. If you’re (a middle linebacker) playing cover-2 in our system – boy. You can be fast as all get out with that run-through; if you play run-first in a seven-man front, you’ve got problems. Because you’re beat; you’re lost three steps. So for Paris and Teddy, the trust, that they’re going to read their keys – those safeties are hoping that guy is there, running right through the middle of the field when he’s supposed to be.

“The thing that’s good with Joe (Barry) is that he played that position when he played and he’s coached it for seven years in this system and he’s had different types of guys playing that spot. It still comes down to trust. Phil (Snow), he’s really on top of it right now – I feel good about that.”
 
Marinelli post-practice transcripts July 28th

HEAD COACH ROD MARINELLI -- JULY 28, 2007

>> Opening Statement

“Eric Beverly retired yesterday. Jeff Backus had a personal reason today, so he’ll miss this morning’s practice and this afternoon which is a kicking practice. He will be back in the hotel tonight. We took Dan Campbell off the PUP, and it’s smart. He’s really still doing the same thing, but this allows us to get walk-throughs. We are going to be smart with him all the way. I just have to make sure he is there. No update on Calvin Johnson. We are working J.T. (O’Sullivan) in a little bit. He came from the World League at QB and Mike (Martz) sees some good things in him. We are trying to get all these guys in this rotation right now and have a chance to look at J.T. He has got a live arm, and the thing that is kind of surprising is how he has absorbed the material this quick. It is amazing. He has been in a lot of different places and he is bright. We see some things in him so we are just trying to get these guys looks and really trying to come up with that number 2 for this season. That is where we are at.”

>> On QB J.T. O’Sullivan competing for the backup QB position

“Oh yes. He has been around some places like the World League, but we have had a chance to look at him. And like I’ve told you, (Mike Martz) has a great feel for that position, and he’s gotten guys like that from the World League and had great success. It’s not like this guy is the guy, but we want to look at him. We don’t want to miss something and (we) have an opportunity to just get guys in the mix and take a look. This system is so much about knowledge, poise, toughness and knowing what to do. We will just kind of let it play out.”

>> On WR Edell Shepherd’s injury

“That hand has been there since the offseason, and he banged it again. But he had that cast on, and it hurts. He’s ok, but he is biting the bullet. Here’s a guy who is hungry and he is not missing a meal man, he is coming to work everyday. But it is sore, it is sore.”

>> On reaction to retirement of TE Eric Beverly

“I was surprised. It caught me off guard. But I respect it. He came into my office, and he is a heck of a man and he came right in and just said, ‘Hey, I’m done. It’s too much, I’ve had a great career and I want to tell you early so you can make plans.’ It caught me off guard a little bit, all of us, but you adjust and you prepare for things like that to happen and we just move on.”

>> On how Beverly’s retirement affects the team

“We need Dan (Campbell); we are down a guy already, so we have just got to adjust and find some position flexibility. The biggest thing is the pounding that position takes in camp. That’s where you need that extra body to get those run drills going and things like that. We have got to, the thing about it, we can go out and find a guy, but to learn it is tough. So just getting the line correctly means so much. We have got to make some adjustments within our team hopefully and then keep our eyes open.”

>> On the defense compared to last season

“It’s just on the details. Really, and I’m not saying anything about (former defensive coordinator) Donnie (Henderson) at all. I mean, I said that the other day. But we are on it. They know the rules, and you can see the speed. They are fast anyway, but when you know exactly what you are doing and why. This defense is about instincts and going. The worst thing you can do to instincts is to make it complicated where they are not using their speed. Right now they are using their speed. If we can get the front humming, then the interceptions are going to go up (as well as) sacks and fumbles and those things. So I am very pleased with their tempo.”

>> On CB Travis Fisher

“He is playing nickel and he played some nickel at the Rams. When we go down to our nickel, ours isn’t just a nickel to match up. That nickel back in our system is like a sambacker. There are three wide receivers now, but he’s got run fits and he’s got to be a blitzer, a run fit, a zone player. It’s the toughest spot, that’s what a lot of people don’t understand. Nickel is, well, we were fortunate in Tampa with Rhonde Barber. That one fell into us. I think coach Dungy ended up drafting a guy in the first round there and I think Lovie traded for him to go get a guy. Ok, this is a hard position. That guy, his skills, well a lot of skills he has to have. So we’re hoping he has a shot at it because it’s not just man to man coverage. It’s not that. It’s a whole lot of stuff – how to check the run and do those things. He is doing good; we’ve just got to keep finding another guy and develop the depth in there.”

>> On having the fans at practice

“It’s awesome. It’s what I want. The most important thing: we all have a chance to see that they like football so much. They appreciate everything about it. It means a lot to me and is something I wanted and it’s good. I just hope someday we can keep working ways to get more stands and more ways to get more people. This is a first run right now, so it’s something I’m really excited about. The players like it. They make a play everybody is cheering for them. It brings some energy, so you’ve got to appreciate that. It’s special.

>> On signing every autograph

“Oh I do. I respect them. When people come out and watch football like this and cheer, we owe that, I owe that. It’s part of the deal.”

>> On getting autographs when he was a kid

“In those days, you didn’t do that. You just liked watching them all the time and saying, ‘whoa’. I really didn’t care about a piece of paper, I just didn’t. That was me. I’d throw it away. But the vision, I still have that. I don’t lose that. In those days you didn’t get around to (training camps). I can still remember a guy taking me to an exhibition game. The LA Rams – Bucky Pope caught a pass down the sideline. It’s so vivid in my mind. But hopefully for these young kids, there are memories here. Everyday there are awesome memories. Seeing some guy, and you remember this stuff; that’s why our game is so awesome man. This game is awesome, really good stuff. We just got to do our work.”

>> On CB Keith Smith

“He’s physical. He’s got really good feet. You know how we have the exit angles as we come off in cover two when they re-route and you have to turn. You’ve got to have some hips, a flip of the hips and those things. He is a willing tackler, but he is also a guy who has got the great speed to play man. What you want to do is you just get these guys and just coach them everyday and not add a lot of stuff to them. Like I was saying, the guys that carry the emphasis of material are our linebackers. They have got to help with the front and the back. It’s fundamentals and skills, and doing the same things everyday. Not give him too many things to do, not look at him as a nickel. He’s got nickel talent, but all the sudden you put him in there and I don’t want to slow his progress down at all. I just want to develop him into a play and see him get better.”

>> On WR Devale Ellis

“He is driving the trainers crazy. That’s what you like, but he is ahead of the game. He is running pretty well. Some of these guys are coming off (the PUP) a little bit earlier, like Dan (Campbell). We’ve just got to be smart. I get nervous with him. When we take him off PUP, I’m always looking in the drills. He’s not supposed to be in one. He is the happiest guy in camp right now because he likes playing. We just have to be smart. We take him off PUP because he can’t walk through, he can’t do anything. So at least we take him off PUP. We feel he is going to be right, he’s gonna be healthy. He’s going to be ok. By taking him off, we are able to get some step throughs, he can run some routes, and just kind of get something done.”

>> On when he anticipated WR Calvin Johnson coming to camp

“I kind of plan it for myself mentally. I want him here in the worst way, but I know this is the NFL and how things go. So I’m assuming it’s going to be a battle and I’m prepared for it, and don’t like it but so be it. I have to deal with it. I think that Tom (Lewand) is in there battling everyday to get it done. He’ll get it done. He is going to get it done.”

>> On CB Tony Beckham

“Guys come in and they know the system, play the system, then they are going to get opportunities in preseason games. The big thing in the defense is trust, and then you have got to make the plays when you are called to make the play. What happens is we just have to constantly work at not guessing. If guys guess and make a play then it’s over his head. I just don’t want that. We will be fine if we keep the ball in front of us, hustle and tackle and do those things well. We’ll create turnovers that way and when we blitz, I want to blitz when we want to blitz. Not because we can’t get there with a four-man or five-man (rush). But it’s about trust; doing the job and being a playmaker when you have those opportunities. We kind of put the handcuffs on the defense (in training camp) because I don’t want to search out receivers and I don’t want to hit the quarterback. We can practice hard and physical with etiquette. Etiquette is the key.”

>> On DE Dewayne White

“He’s fine, it’s just that groin in there. Another day or so and we should have him back. I think a couple of days. It’s nothing other than just a little pull up there. I’m hoping Monday we’ll have a chance to get him back.”

>> On WR Kevin Kasper

“His (hamstring) was bothering him.”
 
Marinelli post-practice transcripts July 29th

HEAD COACH ROD MARINELLI -- JULY 29, 2007

>> Opening Statement

“There were a few things I was really hoping to stress with them today and I thought they responded to it well. They’re tired and beat up a bit but it gives you no excuses not to practice well, to be on top of details, eliminate penalties, secure the ball, get the ball away, those things. We’ve challenged them and I just like how they’ve responded with that. There is energy to the practice; we just got to keep doing it. We’ll take the pads off this afternoon; it’s the reward they’ve earned. We’ll go hats and shorts in the P.M., so I feel good about that. I’ll do that when they work like that. The only injury we have is Drew (Stanton), we just need to check the knee day-to-day. He had some swelling on it, so we wanted to be smart and we wanted to give the other two quarterbacks a lot of work today, so we sat Jon (Kitna) down a little bit and let those other two guys get as many reps as we can and just keep evaluating them. “

>> On how QB Drew Stanton injured his knee

“I couldn’t really tell you to be honest. Just getting reps or something; he just got sore and it blew up on him. It was on his surgical knee, so they’re going to do an MRI and make sure we’re ok.”

>> On signing QB J.T. O’Sullivan and him competing for the backup quarterback position

“Yeah, it’s made it interesting. The one thing he’s done that’s been impressive is learning the knowledge and terminology of this offense; he’s really jumped on it. He’s allowing himself to go out and compete by understanding the terminology, the verbiage and where to go with the ball. A lot of times you have a hard time getting guys onto the field because they can’t spit out the verbiage in the huddle correctly. He’s done a heck of a job with that. He’s got some talent and he’s been around so we just keep evaluating him.”

>> On the competition at quarterback and pushing QB Dan Orlovsky

“Every guy is pushing at every position, but (Dan) is learning. By learning and digesting all that information, it gives him an opportunity. If you can’t do it you couldn’t run offensive plays, so that’s good and that’s what we want. We need to find a really good number two quarterback and a number three. We got to have that. We’re lucky, very lucky that this is working out like this. We’ll let him compete and see how things work out.”

>> On TE Darnell Sanders and position flexibility

“We’re very pleased with his work. He’s a big man. Now, what happens is you get a little adversity and it creates opportunities. Some guys say, oh I see that door crack (open) and it always hits somebody. It’s great competition right now and part of this game is being able to put your pads on everyday and go to work and that’s how you compete in this league. I appreciate those guys. We’re looking at position flexibility. Guys have to do more than one or two things to help this team. They know their spots. Again, that’s the way to attack injuries, creating good depth and position flexibility.”

>> On QB Jon Kitna resting today

“We’re preparing the heck out of this guy. He can sit down on a day like this and give these other two guys (reps). You try to put them with the first group a little bit, a little more pressure situations and see how people react. Plus, Jon’s had a great camp so far – just what he’s doing and where he’s going with the ball. He’s fine.”

>> On signing WR Calvin Johnson

“We just keep working day-by-day. It’s going to get done eventually obviously, but there is nothing we can do about it. We just keep working with this team right here. (We) can’t wait to get him here; we’re excited. I can’t wait to see him again, but it’ll work.”

>> On LB Ernie Sims

“Like I said from the day we drafted him, he’s a guy that fits perfect into this system. He’s a lot like Derek Brooks in that way – he’s a downhill player; he’s explosive. We’re blitzing him some in A-Gap blitz’s. When you’re really comfortable with what you’re doing, then you really feel fast. He’s fast anyway, but now you’ll start seeing him really slice things. See him in the back field spilling things really well. When you get players like that and you can make it simple for them, you will see explosion.

>> On Sims’ hit on RB Tatum Bell in practice

“He crunched him, and that’s a part of the etiquette I’m talking about. You can have a very physical practice and still have good etiquette and not get people beat up. Everyday you see me bring them together and go over what I want them to do, but I go over etiquette everyday before all of that. You know we don’t dive for loose balls; you don’t help a teammate up. You just have got to be smart, no piles. So if you work like that, and they’re doing it, that’s important. Last year we had fights all over the place. It’s a learning curve and a learning process. It’s not about fighting, it’s about skill development. When you can take the fighting out of it and work on skill, then you’ll become good.”

>> On Sims’ performance

“Oh this guy, he’s a hitter. I think Joe Barry and Phil Snow really helped him, detailed him up. God, he’s relentless. His speed, he’s always been fast; he’s no faster than he was last year, but he’s seeing things faster and reacting faster. I’ve been on his bandwagon for a year and a half, I believe in Ernie.”

>> On Sims being singled out by teammates

“It’s his ability to hit and (his) explosion. He’s friendly fire now. You’re in the pile and looking around (wondering) is he coming or not? He is coming to piles now and he’ll blow up a teammate, not intentionally, but he’s coming. That’s what you love about him. (Last year) he knocked Fernando Bryant out cold. This guy is a beast out there, he loves it; he just loves to play football.”
 
Mike Martz transcript July 30th

OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR MIKE MARTZ -- JULY 30, 2007

>> On the offensive performance thus far through training camp

“We haven’t peaked. We’re still putting things in. We’ve got a lot of things in, now we’re going back to polish it up. The effort is really good; the attention to detail is really good. I think (offensive line coach) Jim Colletto has been a terrific addition for us. He’s a taskmaster with great attention to detail. It has really paid off for the offensive line. I’m pleased with the progress, I really am.”

>> On progress in the running game

“We have spent a great deal of time so far on the running game. I think Tatum (Bell) has really stood out as well as Brian Calhoun. I’m really pleased with the running game and what we are trying to do. We still need to understand it a little bit better with all the different things our defense does and the adjustments we have to make. For as long as we’ve been in camp, I am impressed with the progress – certainly.”

>> On RB T.J. Duckett playing fullback

“We move him around all over the place, he plays both.”

>> On if he was unhappy with Duckett’s performance at running back

“Don’t start that. Don’t do that. That has nothing to do with it. His stature allows us to use him in that capacity. You wouldn’t think of taking Aveion Cason and doing that. But if Aveion was big enough we certainly would. It allows us to put two runners in the backfield, and one is physical enough to be fullback. We’re just trying to take advantage of all the players’ strengths, and that’s a strength of his. He can do anything; we’re just trying to find out what he cannot do. He has been able to do all those things very well, which I wasn’t sure whether or not he would. That is a different thing, asking a tailback to go in there and block like a lead blocker. He wasn’t reluctant at all. That tells you something about T.J.”

>> On having strong competition at every position

“We don’t feel short anywhere. We’re not trying to find somebody to play this or that to mend something, which was the case here last year certainly. No, we are very pleased with the personnel we have at both ends and the competition that you need.”

>> On using camp to experiment with players’ differing abilities

“Absolutely, we try and put them in different situations to find out if they are a good receiver, or to find out if he can run a reverse. For instance, the quarterback J.T. (O’Sullivan) is new; I’m trying to find out about him so we are practicing him a lot. I give him stuff that I haven’t covered, just give him a play and see if he can figure it out. Guys that can do that have a little something special. He has done real well with that so I am really pleased with all three QBs at this point who are practicing.”

>> On if QB J.T. O’Sullivan’s performance as been a surprise

“He has. He really has. He has been remarkable. He surprised us enough to the point where we feel like we need to look at him real hard right now. He and Dan (Orlovsky) are in a pretty good competition. Neither one of those guys have the lead certainly. We need to give him a lot of reps so we can look at him fairly with Dan (Orlovsky).”

>> On if O’Sullivan yelled at TE Darnell Sanders

“No, I was yelling at him to be honest. That was me yelling.”

>> On how much WR Calvin Johnson has missed thus far through training camp

“You can’t explain it. You are getting about a month of practice in 4 or 5 days really with everything being crammed in there. It’s unfortunate that things work that way, it really is. You can’t do anything about it; you can only coach the guys who are here so (you can’t) worry about it.”

>> On when Johnson’s absence becomes a real problem

“It’s not a problem. If he is not here we will go with the other guys, that’s just the way it is. I don’t worry about that stuff; I just don’t worry about it. When he is here, he’s here. Mike (Furrey) is a pretty good player right now and we are pleased with him. I don’t worry about those things, I really don’t. When he gets here, if he is ready he’s ready and if he’s not he’s not. Those are all hypothetical things.”

>> On how much further ahead the offense is this year compared to last year

“It is not so much what material we can put in as how well they can do what we have done. It’s not remotely the same team right now. Not remotely. I am very pleased with all aspects. We make our mistakes and we are learning what to do in a lot of areas, but we are talented and trying to do the right thing. That’s all you can ask. It’s a different team completely, a totally different team. Coach Marinelli has done a remarkable job getting this team together and getting it ready to play. They understand what we want.”

>> On QB Jon Kitna’s performance

“He is ready to play right now. Jon (Kitna) is far enough along right now where we would could start tomorrow. That is why we gave him the whole day off yesterday to rest his arm. We have got to take care of him. He is playing at such a high level now, so we are trying to be careful with him. The protections and the routes, we are just working through all those things. There is really nothing you can give him that he can’t do right now.”

>> On why QB Jon Kitna is performing so well

“He knows instantly. He has a feel right away. The recognition and reaction to what he sees is real comfortable for him. Boom, he knows the discipline of what we do and has really adapted to it.”

>> On if the receivers have to catch up to him

“Yes they do. They are very close. (Shaun) McDonald and Mike (Furrey) and Roy (Williams) are outstanding in that respect. Troy (Walters) has done a good job, we have got several others too. That first group is knocking rust off pretty good.”

>> On the offensive line being bigger this year

“It affords us an opportunity to do something different in the offensive line and the running game. We are more of a zone team. Jim (Colletto) has such a great way with understanding what we want to do in the running game. We are very specific with what we want to do. We are going to take advantage of the size of these guys.”

>> On not having a strong goal-line running threat last year

“Anytime the area is condensed like that, the zones are condensed into little patches. There is just so much you can do. You have to be able to run the ball effectively. If you can’t do that, the red zone offense is in trouble. When you can run the ball very effectively, whether it is third down or not, the threat of the run back there takes a lot of the pressure off and forces different defensive looks. That is part of it certainly. Just the tempo and intensity tunes up down there, and we just didn’t do a good job handling that last year.”

>> On if linebackers are key in the red zone

“Remember now, (linebackers) are not backing up. They are right there. Everything happens so much faster and the wholes are tiny. Everything is just really fast, tight, and quick. You have to be able to keep the defense on its heals somewhat by the threat of running the football.”

>> On what he attributes WR Mike Furrey’s success to

“He is just a special individual. He has competitiveness and his confidence. The first thing people say is that he is an overachiever. He is not an overachiever, he is a talented guy. With what he has, we get it all. He has better speed than people realize. He is really diligent in every part of his game. If you were to expect perfection from a wide receiver, Mike (Furrey) would be the one to get it.”

>> On if G Edwin Mulitalo is rusty

“Somewhat. Who knows? At camp you are looking at so many different guys in so many different lights with so many different groups. That all starts to really define itself midway through the first season. To grade a guy right now wouldn’t be a good thing at all for anybody really. It changes dramatically over the next three weeks.”

>> On if Mulitalo or G Stephen Peterman would be a starter right now

“The season doesn’t start today. Ask me in three weeks. (Edwin) Mulitalo is our starter right now. Damien Woody is our starter right now. Those guys are our starters right now. But like we just got done talking about, that is going to change over the next three weeks. Guys are going to play better in practice and in games. Nothing is etched in granite. It just isn’t. You have to compete all the time, but we are fortunate to have a second group in the offensive line which is pretty remarkable – particularly when you consider the situation last year.”

>> On CB LaMarcus Hicks’s interception in practice

“That was a heck of a catch. We will probably campaign to get him on our side of the ball tonight.”

>> On what he values most in a backup lineman

“I think the guys who are in a backup role really need to play two spots, and most of them can. They are trained that way. Since the time they are in high school. Very rarely does a center, guard or tackle go through their whole career that way. They always end up with dual responsibilities. It is not something that is unusual, but really in the second group you are going to have to have a couple guys effective in several positions since you can only have 7 or 8 up. A guy like Blaine Saipaia, he knows several positions and that’s to his credit and will help him.”

>> On QB Drew Stanton’s injury

“I don’t know anything about it, I really don’t. I know they were checking him today. I don’t know how it came out or what was said or anything else about it.”

>> On if the receivers talk to former Lions TE Charlie Sanders

“I think we all feel really good about being identified with somebody like Charlie (Sanders). His presence is (important). I know the players visit with him all the time. I’m sure they do, Roy, and all these guys. I’m not aware of it, but when I talk to Charlie he is such a great pro and such a great standard for this league based on what he was able to accomplish. He is an awesome, awesome standard for these players.”

>> On problems in short-yard situations last season

“All of our short yardage problems, when you go back and look at it, our overhaul of the offensive line will dramatically affect that. (Kevin Jones) is a terrific short-yardage runner. He has two runs over 40 yards on 3rd-and-one if you recall. It’s not the run. We had an awful lot of different guys on the offensive line throughout the season. Any of those types of situations that happened last year just don’t have any carry over for this year. It’s just a whole different situation with that group up front. Its different guys and a whole different thing. I’m not concerned about it, I’m really not. I think we will be exceptional in that. What we are doing and the guys we are doing it with will lend itself to a great deal of success. I’m not worried about it.”

>> On being hopeful that RB Kevin Jones will be the starter

“I just don’t want to think about it because you don’t know what is going to happen there. Just like Calvin (Johnson), he is not here so you can’t wait for him and worry about him. You go and do what you can with who is here. When you go back and look at him last year, we were awful upfront in a lot of respects. If you get a guy off the street and he has to start that week, he doesn’t know what you are doing. You have a back making runs and doing some things that he shouldn’t be about to do but he did. He is a real powerful runner with speed. He really played well last year. He will come in and compete with Tatum (Bell) for (starter). Tatum (Bell) right now is at a different level. He is better than I thought he would be to be honest with you. When (Kevin Jones) comes in here, those two guys are going to battle.”

>> On what he likes about RB Tatum Bell

“He is the whole package. He has good run reads and change-of-direction. He and (Kevin Jones) are very similar in that respect.”

>> On Bell’s reputation of being a one cut running back

“That’s what (Denver RBs) are coached to do in their running game. They tell them: ‘you have one move and that’s it.’ That’s what they (told) him he has to do. That is Denver’s offense. That is the zone scheme that they run. We are similar to that in some respects, but he has so much juice to him that he can just go. He has taken our offense and learned it so well that he doesn’t make any mistakes. He is catching the ball extremely well. He is playing at such a high level right now; we are very pleased with him. When (Kevin Jones) comes back that is a terrific combination.”
 
Of note to me was the comments Martz made about the Lions short yardage play last year:

>> On problems in short-yard situations last season

“All of our short yardage problems, when you go back and look at it, our overhaul of the offensive line will dramatically affect that. (Kevin Jones) is a terrific short-yardage runner. He has two runs over 40 yards on 3rd-and-one if you recall. It’s not the run. We had an awful lot of different guys on the offensive line throughout the season. Any of those types of situations that happened last year just don’t have any carry over for this year. It’s just a whole different situation with that group up front. Its different guys and a whole different thing. I’m not concerned about it, I’m really not. I think we will be exceptional in that. What we are doing and the guys we are doing it with will lend itself to a great deal of success. I’m not worried about it.”

 
Of note to me was the comments Martz made about the Lions short yardage play last year:>> On problems in short-yard situations last season“All of our short yardage problems, when you go back and look at it, our overhaul of the offensive line will dramatically affect that. (Kevin Jones) is a terrific short-yardage runner. He has two runs over 40 yards on 3rd-and-one if you recall. It’s not the run. We had an awful lot of different guys on the offensive line throughout the season. Any of those types of situations that happened last year just don’t have any carry over for this year. It’s just a whole different situation with that group up front. Its different guys and a whole different thing. I’m not concerned about it, I’m really not. I think we will be exceptional in that. What we are doing and the guys we are doing it with will lend itself to a great deal of success. I’m not worried about it.”
Martz cracks me up. That stat means nothing. Every team breaks runs in short yardage situations with the lines stacked. More meaningful would be their overall conversion percentage.
 

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