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Detroit Man Beaten by Mob (1 Viewer)

fantasycurse42 said:
If this was a black kid riding through white suburbia & this happened, this makes front page news nationwide... When a white man is basically beaten to death in a racially motivated crime, nobody gives a flying ####.

good to know.
Yeah...but didn't a black lady save him from further harm?....So that kind of lessens the racial tones of him running over the kid.

 
fantasycurse42 said:
If this was a black kid riding through white suburbia & this happened, this makes front page news nationwide... When a white man is basically beaten to death in a racially motivated crime, nobody gives a flying ####.

good to know.
Yeah...but didn't a black lady save him from further harm?....So that kind of lessens the racial tones of him running over the kid.
The kid literally walked in front of his moving car... There is video of this.

 
fantasycurse42 said:
If this was a black kid riding through white suburbia & this happened, this makes front page news nationwide... When a white man is basically beaten to death in a racially motivated crime, nobody gives a flying ####.

good to know.
Yeah...but didn't a black lady save him from further harm?....So that kind of lessens the racial tones of him running over the kid.
The kid literally walked in front of his moving car... There is video of this.
Black lady still saved the guy. She's endangered herself to help a white man she doesn't even know. That's a real American hero, Son. Don't forget that.

 
fantasycurse42 said:
If this was a black kid riding through white suburbia & this happened, this makes front page news nationwide... When a white man is basically beaten to death in a racially motivated crime, nobody gives a flying ####.

good to know.
Yeah...but didn't a black lady save him from further harm?....So that kind of lessens the racial tones of him running over the kid.
The kid literally walked in front of his moving car... There is video of this.
Black lady still saved the guy. She's endangered herself to help a white man she doesn't even know. That's a real American hero, Son. Don't forget that.
What she did is def of hero status, but the thugs who attacked the driver should be thrown to the wolves.

 
The reason that institutionalized racism by police against minorities, or stories like what happened to Trayvon Martin, get more notice is because they are emblematic of serious problems which still exist in our society. This story is sad and tragic, and the people who beat up this poor guy succumbed to rage and racism, but black on white hate crime in America remains relatively rare.
Cut the #### Tim. Take out the hate part and be real. Nothing rare about it.
But it is rare. I know you think it isn't, but it is. I can cite you statistics if you want.
White on black crime is even rarer.
Not hate crime, which is what I'm referring to (because this was an instance of hate crime.) 58% of hate crimes are whites against minorities. Only 18% are blacks against whites.
God, I hate you. I guess if I punch you in the face, it will be a hate crime.

 
The reason that institutionalized racism by police against minorities, or stories like what happened to Trayvon Martin, get more notice is because they are emblematic of serious problems which still exist in our society. This story is sad and tragic, and the people who beat up this poor guy succumbed to rage and racism, but black on white hate crime in America remains relatively rare.
Cut the #### Tim. Take out the hate part and be real. Nothing rare about it.
But it is rare. I know you think it isn't, but it is. I can cite you statistics if you want.
White on black crime is even rarer.
Not hate crime, which is what I'm referring to (because this was an instance of hate crime.) 58% of hate crimes are whites against minorities. Only 18% are blacks against whites.
Given the population of the US is 80% white and 13% black, it seems likely blacks are more likely to commit a hate crime on a population % basis than whites. Note your numbers only include whites in the black % but include all minorities in the white %. What percentage of hate crimes are blacks against other minorities?

 
The reason that institutionalized racism by police against minorities, or stories like what happened to Trayvon Martin, get more notice is because they are emblematic of serious problems which still exist in our society. This story is sad and tragic, and the people who beat up this poor guy succumbed to rage and racism, but black on white hate crime in America remains relatively rare.
Cut the #### Tim. Take out the hate part and be real. Nothing rare about it.
But it is rare. I know you think it isn't, but it is. I can cite you statistics if you want.
White on black crime is even rarer.
Not hate crime, which is what I'm referring to (because this was an instance of hate crime.) 58% of hate crimes are whites against minorities. Only 18% are blacks against whites.
God, I hate you. I guess if I punch you in the face, it will be a hate crime.
That is a crime of love. Only white people can hate black people, thus we can ignore almost all crimes by blacks against white unless there is so much publicity around it.

 
Update

One guy got 6 years in jail, another guy got 1 year, another guy got probation, and 2 more pled guilty and are awaiting sentencing.

The victim has been released from the hospital but suffered brain damage and may never fully recover.

 
Update

One guy got 6 years in jail, another guy got 1 year, another guy got probation, and 2 more pled guilty and are awaiting sentencing.

The victim has been released from the hospital but suffered brain damage and may never fully recover.
Obviously it wasn't tried as a hate crime. Those sentences are ridiculously light.

 
Update

One guy got 6 years in jail, another guy got 1 year, another guy got probation, and 2 more pled guilty and are awaiting sentencing.

The victim has been released from the hospital but suffered brain damage and may never fully recover.
Obviously it wasn't tried as a hate crime. Those sentences are ridiculously light.
These criminals will be back at it when they are released. I'd be willing to bet the majority of them end up back in jail after their stints. My comment has nothing to do with skin color, but more so on the mental state of a criminal who gets caught and then isn't punished sufficiently. This has to empower and give a false sense of invincibility.

 
Update

One guy got 6 years in jail, another guy got 1 year, another guy got probation, and 2 more pled guilty and are awaiting sentencing.

The victim has been released from the hospital but suffered brain damage and may never fully recover.
Obviously it wasn't tried as a hate crime. Those sentences are ridiculously light.
These criminals will be back at it when they are released. I'd be willing to bet the majority of them end up back in jail after their stints. My comment has nothing to do with skin color, but more so on the mental state of a criminal who gets caught and then isn't punished sufficiently. This has to empower and give a false sense of invincibility.
Your conclusion is based on what?

Obviously you're not aware that there is plenty of research out there that suggests that longer sentences do not reduce recidivism. The longer they are behind bars, obviously the longer period of time in which they are incapable of offending against non-incarcerated people. But the evidence also suggests that the longer time they spend inside prisons the more likely they are to reoffend once released.

 
Update

One guy got 6 years in jail, another guy got 1 year, another guy got probation, and 2 more pled guilty and are awaiting sentencing.

The victim has been released from the hospital but suffered brain damage and may never fully recover.
Obviously it wasn't tried as a hate crime. Those sentences are ridiculously light.
These criminals will be back at it when they are released. I'd be willing to bet the majority of them end up back in jail after their stints. My comment has nothing to do with skin color, but more so on the mental state of a criminal who gets caught and then isn't punished sufficiently. This has to empower and give a false sense of invincibility.
Your conclusion is based on what?

Obviously you're not aware that there is plenty of research out there that suggests that longer sentences do not reduce recidivism. The longer they are behind bars, obviously the longer period of time in which they are incapable of offending against non-incarcerated people. But the evidence also suggests that the longer time they spend inside prisons the more likely they are to reoffend once released.
The longer they are in prison, usually the more hardened the criminal and more criminal activities on their records, so I would expect them to reoffend. If someone walks away from a serious crime without any major repercussion (such as 1 year or just probation), the mental state has to feel empowering. I would have to imagine a thought process such as; "I committed this serious crime, I got caught, and then I barely got in trouble."

 
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Update

One guy got 6 years in jail, another guy got 1 year, another guy got probation, and 2 more pled guilty and are awaiting sentencing.

The victim has been released from the hospital but suffered brain damage and may never fully recover.
Obviously it wasn't tried as a hate crime. Those sentences are ridiculously light.
At least one of them was charged with a hate crime, but that charge was dropped as part of a plea agreement.
 

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