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Detroit Mom defends her home with 'Assault Weapon' (2 Viewers)

Now imagine she had pursued and killed that poor innocent teenager who turned around and dropped his pea shooter!

 
I love the reporters unbiased report..."young punks" "thugs" "low-lifes"

:lmao:
Yea, they are obviously well mannered gentlemen... :rolleyes:
That's not the point, editorializing such things is something that is becoming more and more common for no particular reason. It goes without saying they are punks and low-lifes, the viewer is being given the opinion which they should be formulating themselves.

 
I love the reporters unbiased report..."young punks" "thugs" "low-lifes"

:lmao:
Yea, they are obviously well mannered gentlemen... :rolleyes:
That's not the point, editorializing such things is something that is becoming more and more common for no particular reason. It goes without saying they are punks and low-lifes, the viewer is being given the opinion which they should be formulating themselves.
The media is a hype machine to begin with.. If the worst I get from a media source is them calling a punk for being a punk, then I think we're 150 shades brighter than anything we get from fox or msnbc..

 
I love the reporters unbiased report..."young punks" "thugs" "low-lifes"

:lmao:
Yea, they are obviously well mannered gentlemen... :rolleyes:
That's not the point, editorializing such things is something that is becoming more and more common for no particular reason. It goes without saying they are punks and low-lifes, the viewer is being given the opinion which they should be formulating themselves.
It's also so forced, like the reporter is using these terms to maintain cred or something.

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
Not so sure this is the best example of that. This was a women protecting herself and her young children against 3 armed intruders. Why should we assume a lesser weapon would have been enough? Did you watch the video? One idiot even makes a second attempt to go into the home.

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
I bet she might have even hit something with a shotgun.

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
Yea, god forbid someone have a pistol grip on a rifle, or a heat shield, or the ability to attach additional tactical equipment... That is just asking for trouble..

In your mind, what is the difference between an "assault weapon" and a regular hunting rifle?

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
Yea, god forbid someone have a pistol grip on a rifle, or a heat shield, or the ability to attach additional tactical equipment... That is just asking for trouble..

In your mind, what is the difference between an "assault weapon" and a regular hunting rifle?
Anything capable of automatic fire.

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
Yea, god forbid someone have a pistol grip on a rifle, or a heat shield, or the ability to attach additional tactical equipment... That is just asking for trouble..

In your mind, what is the difference between an "assault weapon" and a regular hunting rifle?
Anything capable of automatic fire.
Her gun was not fully automatic.

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
Yea, god forbid someone have a pistol grip on a rifle, or a heat shield, or the ability to attach additional tactical equipment... That is just asking for trouble..

In your mind, what is the difference between an "assault weapon" and a regular hunting rifle?
Anything capable of automatic fire.
If her weapon were automatic fire, she'd be in jail.

 
Statistics suggest that the owner of such a weapon is far more likely to kill a family member or friend in a tragic accident than they are to ever have to defend themselves against a home invader. The odds of the latter are akin to winning the lottery several times in the same year.

 
Statistics suggest that the owner of such a weapon is far more likely to kill a family member or friend in a tragic accident than they are to ever have to defend themselves against a home invader. The odds of the latter are akin to winning the lottery several times in the same year.
The odds don't change when your house is broken into multiple times?

 
Congrats to her but for every story like this there will be several about people shooting family members, children shooting children, some ####### shooting a kid because his music was loud, etc. One or two anecdotes don't change the reality that there are too many people senselessly killed by guns in this country and something needs to be done about it..

 
Moms who can't shoot straight + multiple assailants = arguments to ban extended capacity magazines go swirling down the toilet.

 
Statistics suggest that the owner of such a weapon is far more likely to kill a family member or friend in a tragic accident than they are to ever have to defend themselves against a home invader. The odds of the latter are akin to winning the lottery several times in the same year.
I can only speak for myself here, but:Home broken into- 5

Won Lottery - 0

 
Statistics suggest that the owner of such a weapon is far more likely to kill a family member or friend in a tragic accident than they are to ever have to defend themselves against a home invader. The odds of the latter are akin to winning the lottery several times in the same year.
I can only speak for myself here, but:Home broken into- 5

Won Lottery - 0
Not talking about break ins here. I'm referring to people entering your house with intent to do you or your loved ones physical harm, so that you are forced to use a firearm to defend yourself.
 
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Statistics suggest that the owner of such a weapon is far more likely to kill a family member or friend in a tragic accident than they are to ever have to defend themselves against a home invader. The odds of the latter are akin to winning the lottery several times in the same year.
I can only speak for myself here, but:Home broken into- 5

Won Lottery - 0
Where in Charlotte are you? I live in a semi-sketchy neighborhood and have for over ten years. A few years ago my car was broken into. That is the extent of crime I have had to deal with here. In fact I have lived in Charlotte for 25 years and that is all the crime I have been victim of.

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
Yea, god forbid someone have a pistol grip on a rifle, or a heat shield, or the ability to attach additional tactical equipment... That is just asking for trouble..

In your mind, what is the difference between an "assault weapon" and a regular hunting rifle?
Anything capable of automatic fire.
If her weapon were automatic fire, she'd be in jail.
I am not a gun expert by any means but I thought an assault weapon implied it was at least semi-automatic and capable of rapid-fire.

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
Yea, god forbid someone have a pistol grip on a rifle, or a heat shield, or the ability to attach additional tactical equipment... That is just asking for trouble..

In your mind, what is the difference between an "assault weapon" and a regular hunting rifle?
Anything capable of automatic fire.
If her weapon were automatic fire, she'd be in jail.
I am not a gun expert by any means but I thought an assault weapon implied it was at least semi-automatic and capable of rapid-fire.
Bump Fire for those who aren't gun savvy

 
Thank goodness she wasn't restricted to any of the other guns which don't work for home defense.
:goodposting: I think it is awesome that she was able to defend her home from these pieces of crap but that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

There is no point in arguing about it since neither one of us is going to change each others mind.
Yea, god forbid someone have a pistol grip on a rifle, or a heat shield, or the ability to attach additional tactical equipment... That is just asking for trouble..

In your mind, what is the difference between an "assault weapon" and a regular hunting rifle?
Anything capable of automatic fire.
That's not the same as the governments definition.. Or merriam-websters...

There are semi-automatic hunting rifles and pistols that can be converted to full auto...

 
Man just straight up kicked the door open. Man, I wish I could get into that nice neighborhood.
that doesn't mean that I think it is a good idea for home owners to have assault weapons in their houses any more than I would want them to have bazookas, tanks, grenades and bombs. I would bet a rifle or shotgun would have be just as effective in this case.

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Anything capable of automatic fire.
:lol:

God it amazes me how ignorant most of america is with regards to "assault rifles"...

1) That rifle wasn't automatic. It was semiautomatic... like the VAST majority of rifles, shotguns, and pistols sold today.

2) An "assault rifle" Round is a .223 caliber which is much smaller than most hunting rifle rounds. Hell you can't even use a .223 rifle for most hunting because it's considered inhumane because of it's lack of lethality.
3) An "assault rifle" round at .223 caliber also carries an extremely small "bullet" at ~62gr, compared to 150gr for 9mm or 230gr for .45ACP. Here is a graphic showing wound profiles from "Assault Rifles" (.225/5.56) when compared to pistol caliber (9mm/.45), Shotguns (12ga), or hunting rifles (.308)

That said, I'm not a fan of any rifle for home defense in a densely populated area. Too great a risk of the round escaping the immediate home area. A shotgun is by far the best choice for close quarters home defense due to it's wide spread (likely to hit target in stressed/dark situation), as well as the quick dissipation of energy (unlikely for round to penetrate neighboring house unintentionally). However, if that's what you have, I'm happy to see it put to use to protect your home against would be assailants.

Still... the willingness of so many to speak out while lacking any real understanding of the topic of "Assault Rifles" is a sad artifact of the criminally inaccurate media coverage on the topic.

 
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Anything capable of automatic fire.
If her weapon were automatic fire, she'd be in jail.
I am not a gun expert by any means but I thought an assault weapon implied it was at least semi-automatic and capable of rapid-fire.
Just about every gun sold in america is semi automatic and capable of rapid fire by pulling the trigger repeatedly. Pretty much every pistol.. the VAST majority of hunting rifles and shotguns as well.

 
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Moms who can't shoot straight + multiple assailants = arguments to ban extended capacity magazines go swirling down the toilet.
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So they can miss with more bullets and increase the collateral damage? An odd argument.

This logic would lend itself to suggesting a shotgun imo.
Please provide links to some occurrences of this "collateral damage" you outline here with regards to defense against home invasion.

I agree a shotgun is ideal in this situation but the range of usefulness of an semi-auto rifle is greater than that of a Shotgun by virtue of the added range and accuracy. If one can only afford a single weapon, I cant fault the choice of a semi-auto rifle.

 
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Statistics suggest that the owner of such a weapon is far more likely to kill a family member or friend in a tragic accident than they are to ever have to defend themselves against a home invader. The odds of the latter are akin to winning the lottery several times in the same year.
These are the odds where? In Timmyworld ©? You completely made that stat up...

Lets see if you even know how many accidental assault gun killings we have in America every year, much less where a family member gets killed..

You are so full of $hit.. Most family firearm accidents happen with pistols..

I guarantee there are more home invasions in a year than situations where someone accidentally kills a family member with an assault rifle..

 
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Statistics suggest that the owner of such a weapon is far more likely to kill a family member or friend in a tragic accident than they are to ever have to defend themselves against a home invader. The odds of the latter are akin to winning the lottery several times in the same year.
These are the odds where? In Timmyworld ©? You completely made that stat up...

Lets see if you even know how many accidental assault gun killings we have in America every year, much less where a family member gets killed..

You are so full of ####.. Most family firearm accidents happen with pistols..
Plenty of people get shot with semi-automatic rifles kept in the home. I can post several stories of children shooting each other with them if you want the full Posty.

 
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Statistics suggest that the owner of such a weapon is far more likely to kill a family member or friend in a tragic accident than they are to ever have to defend themselves against a home invader. The odds of the latter are akin to winning the lottery several times in the same year.
According to a United States Department of Justice report:• 38% of assaults & 60% of rapes occur during home invasions.

• 1 of every 5 homes will experience a break­in or home invasion.
• Statistically, there are over 8,000 home invasions per day in North America
• According to Statistics U.S.A., there was an average of 3,600,000 home invasions annually between 1994 and 2000.

:popcorn:
 
Moms who can't shoot straight + multiple assailants = arguments to ban extended capacity magazines go swirling down the toilet.
:goodposting:
So they can miss with more bullets and increase the collateral damage? An odd argument.

This logic would lend itself to suggesting a shotgun imo.
Please provide links to some occurrences of this "collateral damage" you speak of with regards to defense against home invasion.

I agree a shotgun is ideal in this situation but the range of usefulness of an semi-auto rifle is greater than that of a Shotgun by virtue of the added range and accuracy. If one can only afford a single weapon, I cant fault the choice of a semi-auto rifle.
You suggested more bullets for someone who can't shoot straight. Accuracy of a rifle does not improve the accuracy of the shooter.

Unless you argue increased capacity magazines improve her aim, it only makes sense that more shots fired with poor aim would miss their intended target. Thus more damage to unintended targets (collateral damage).

A shotgun increases margin of error... for bad aim, a shotgun makes a better argument for the basis of the argument (can't shoot straight). :shrug: .

 

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