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***Detroit Tigers thread: 1st pick yet again, this is not fun*** (3 Viewers)

Bojang0301 said:
Well, while Mahtook hasn't blown anyone's socks off Bourjos, Blanco, Bourn and Drew Stubbs all were cut or traded. AJax barely scrapped by making the Indians. Looks like we'll be clamoring as to why we traded Maybin all season is my guess. Glad his salary will ultimately be tied up in a combo of Mark Lowe and Mike Pelfrey playing Nintendo at home.
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Maybin has had a horrible spring and already been nicked with injuries.  At this stage with J just give Romine the job.

 
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jon_mx said:
I think Jones will be our CF and Romine will fill in for JD to start the season.   
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I agree on Jones and wonder if he could hit 2nd, due to speed on the bases, until JD comes back with Nick taking over as the #2 hitter.  With Moya out of options (as I understand things) I wonder if a Mahtook/Collins platoon in RF is what will happen to have Collins up as a left handed bat.  Hopefully JD gets healthy quicker than the injury seems as a 1-9 line up of Kinsler, Nick, Miggy, Vmart, JD, Upton, McCann, Jones? and Iggy sure sounds like a lot of fun to watch.  

 
Angel Pagan linked to the Tigers a few times the last two days. MLB Trade Rumors suggesting he would rather stay in the Bay Area. 

 
What could be the opening day lineup vs. left-hander Jose Quintana per The News:

Ian 2B

Nick 3B

Miggy 1B

Victor DH

Upton LF

Mahtook RF

McCann C

Jones CF

Iggy SS

 
I don't see anyone signing Moya.   His fielding is rough and except for having some good pop, is not a great hitter.  

 
This looks to be the 25-man roster going into the season.  Looking pretty solid.  I like that Sanchez appears to be pitching much better and will be available to solidify the SP rotation should someone falter.  The SP is once again a strength while the first half of last season was a major weakness.  The RP could go either way.  Catcher we are very solid defensively, hopefully we can get modest offensive output.  Infield is a major strength.  May lack some range on the corners, but very solid defensively and borderline elite offensively.  OF has major uncertainties, but I think it will be solid.  Injury to JD makes the unit very iffy offensively.  On defense, I think it will be pretty  good.  I am hopeful that Jones/Collins/Mahtook may surprise us. 

SP

Verlander,  Zimmerman,  Boyd,  Fulmer,  Norris

RP

Sanchez,  K-Rod,  Rondon,  A. Wilson,  J. Wilson,  Greene,  K. Ryan

C

McCann,  Avila

IF

Miggy,  Nick, Iggy,  Kinsler,  Machado,  Romine, VMart

OF

Collins,  Jones,  Mahtook,  J-Up

 
In regard to Moya, shows how the game has changed. Used to be if you had a power profile like that you were given multiple chances and held onto dear life. Now with Sabermetrics, defense and getting on base is just as important.

 
With three days left in spring training and their bullpen at capacity for Opening Day, the Detroit Tigers granted Pelfrey an unconditional release today. He is owed $8 million after signing a two-year, $16-million deal before 2016. Pelfrey, 33, went 4-10 with a 5.07 ERA and 1.73 WHIP last season. This spring, he posted a 7.94 ERA and 1.76 WHIP in 17 innings.

Pelfrey entered spring training without a role. Though his velocity picked up in his last appearance Wednesday, he still allowed three runs on six hits, including back-to-back home runs. Manager Brad Ausmus recently said the team did not have room for two long relievers, which meant that Pelfrey’s only path to staying aboard would be if Anibal Sanchez made the starting rotation. But Sanchez was told Tuesday that he would open the regular season in the bullpen.

The team had been gauging interest in Pelfrey on the trade market, even being willing to pay his entire $8 million salary in hopes of getting something in return to no avail.

 
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Hope Lowe and Pelfrey are growing pain lessons for Avila. You don't spend money on guys that are fringe for more then one year. Either of those signings no one would have said a word on if they were 1-year deals. The $13 mil combined could have got us a very strong player this offseason.

 
jon_mx said:
This looks to be the 25-man roster going into the season.  Looking pretty solid.  I like that Sanchez appears to be pitching much better and will be available to solidify the SP rotation should someone falter.  The SP is once again a strength while the first half of last season was a major weakness.  The RP could go either way.  Catcher we are very solid defensively, hopefully we can get modest offensive output.  Infield is a major strength.  May lack some range on the corners, but very solid defensively and borderline elite offensively.  OF has major uncertainties, but I think it will be solid.  Injury to JD makes the unit very iffy offensively.  On defense, I think it will be pretty  good.  I am hopeful that Jones/Collins/Mahtook may surprise us. 

SP

Verlander,  Zimmerman,  Boyd,  Fulmer,  Norris

RP

Sanchez,  K-Rod,  Rondon,  A. Wilson,  J. Wilson,  Greene,  K. Ryan

C

McCann,  Avila

IF

Miggy,  Nick, Iggy,  Kinsler,  Machado,  Romine, VMart

OF

Collins,  Jones,  Mahtook,  J-Up
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The guys who I worry the most about performing well......Zimmerman, K-Rod, A. Wilson, Greene, K. Ryan, Avila, and Mahtook.  The rest of the guys I feel pretty good about having good seasons.    The bullpen is full of landmines. 

 
jon_mx said:
The bullpen is full of landmines. 
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:goodposting:  

The bullpen is my biggest worry but the fickle nature of bullpens keeps me away from the ledge. Ausmus can't burn the bullpen arms like he did last year. The starters have to put up some innings this year.

I also think a lot of eyes will be on Jiminez early on.  :wub:

 
Anthony Borbely said:
:goodposting:  

The bullpen is my biggest worry but the fickle nature of bullpens keeps me away from the ledge. Ausmus can't burn the bullpen arms like he did last year. The starters have to put up some innings this year.

I also think a lot of eyes will be on Jiminez early on.  :wub:
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Tigers starters should perform better.  Last year Pelfrey, Greene, and Sanchez were horrible and Zimmerman was injured early on.  The rotation was really a disaster before the all-star break and in hindsight it was amazing the Tigers competed for the playoffs.  Once Ausmus went to the young arms, the Tigers were a much better team.  I see a ton of promise of getting a lot of quality starts out of this rotation, especially if Sanchez has found his stuff and can provide some needed depth to the rotation.  And I see enough problems in the pen where Jiminez will get his chance. Overall I am much more optimistic going into this year than last.  

 
I doubt Fulmer is as good as last year but Norris will be better, and the demise of Jordan Zimmerman in fantasy circles is overblown imo. Good starting pitching will keep you in the playoff hunt and the hitting should be good. 

The bullpen has a lot of quality arms so I think it's within reason it can at least be average. And this should be a pretty good fielding team. 

 
Bojang0301 said:
Hope Lowe and Pelfrey are growing pain lessons for Avila. You don't spend money on guys that are fringe for more then one year. Either of those signings no one would have said a word on if they were 1-year deals. The $13 mil combined could have got us a very strong player this offseason.
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At least Lowe had a decent season before he came here. 

Pelfrey made 5 million in Minny and had a crap season..then gets a 3 million dollar per year raise to have a crap season in Detroit.

 
Leroy Hoard said:
Interesting. Romine & Collins miss only about 25% of the starts, at least for now.
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I think the plan is to not completely do a lefty-righty platoon with Jones, but give him the majority of starts.  I can see Jones getting somewhere 50-75 percent of the starts.  

 
jon_mx said:
I think the plan is to not completely do a lefty-righty platoon with Jones, but give him the majority of starts.  I can see Jones getting somewhere 50-75 percent of the starts.  
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Sounds better, something like the current catcher situation where the righty still gets most of the starts.

 
Leroy Hoard said:
Sounds better, something like the current catcher situation where the righty still gets most of the starts.
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Kind of interesting how Ausmus thinking.   Had JD not been hurt, Jones probably would have started the season in Toledo even though by most accounts Jones won the CF job.  

 
Buster Olney gave the Tigers an F for the offseason, but outside of CF and bullpen what did they have to address? 

They were 11-26 vs the Indians and Royals, 74-50 against everyone else.  That's a .600 winning percentage.  If they sign Melvin Upton Jr, then they addressed the biggest hole on the roster.  The bullpen has a lot of arms we developed, and that's the only way to go good or bad.  :shrug:

Every single ESPN writer picked the Indians to win the division.  If the Tigers had split with the Indians last year, they'd have won the AL Central by two games.  :popcorn:

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Buster Olney gave the Tigers an F for the offseason, but outside of CF and bullpen what did they have to address? 

They were 11-26 vs the Indians and Royals, 74-50 against everyone else.  That's a .600 winning percentage.  If they sign Melvin Upton Jr, then they addressed the biggest hole on the roster.  The bullpen has a lot of arms we developed, and that's the only way to go good or bad.  :shrug:

Every single ESPN writer picked the Indians to win the division.  If the Tigers had split with the Indians last year, they'd have won the AL Central by two games.  :popcorn:
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I'm fine with them being the underdog. Kinsler, especially, seems suited to be put in that place.

 
One thing that puzzles me is this team was 3rd in the majors in batting average and 8th in HR's, but only 11th in runs scored.  Is this team really that slow?   Should we be playing more small ball?  Are we that dumb on the base paths?  Our base stealing stars were pretty pathetic too.   With those stats for average and power you would expect to be around 5th or 6th in runs scored.   

 
JV not normally one to get off to a great start strikes out 10 while allowing just two run.   Now we get to see the bullpen in action. 

 
Bojang0301 said:
Can't wait for Jimenez to be up. At very least bridge the gap to KRod... although he scares the #### out of me too.
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I think that was the one mistake Ausmus made with the opening day roster.  He will probably get there soon enough though, so it may not be a big deal.  Ausmus probably would have screwed up and sent Jones down to the minors had JD not been hurt.  Jones is a good ballplayer.  

 
Was not able to watch the game, but did see various highlights and damn, Verlander's stuff looked nasty.  Consistently throwing in the mid 90's with terrific movement on the ball.  No wonder he struck out 10.  If Shane Green continues, we may see Jimenez sooner rather than later.  Bottom half of the order more than pulled their weight.  

 
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jon_mx said:
I think that was the one mistake Ausmus made with the opening day roster.  He will probably get there soon enough though, so it may not be a big deal.  Ausmus probably would have screwed up and sent Jones down to the minors had JD not been hurt.  Jones is a good ballplayer.  
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Good points but you are blaming the wrong guy when it comes to rosters, that's more on the GM.

 
No game today and Boyd moved up to take Norris' spot in rotation presumably because they don't want Norris pitching in the slush. 

 
Leroy Hoard said:
Good points but you are blaming the wrong guy when it comes to rosters, that's more on the GM.
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I'm fine with it. Don't need to start his arbitration clock just yet and give him full time shares in Toledo. Bring him up in the summer if all goes well to pitch and ease him into high leverage spots. 

 
MLB needs to schedule more early April games in Det-Chi-Cle.  At least they had an open day where they could squeeze in one game. 

 
jon_mx said:
MLB needs to schedule more early April games in Det-Chi-Cle.  At least they had an open day where they could squeeze in one game. 
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I know the mlb has a hard time putting together a weather proof schedule but opening in dome or warm weather cities would be nice for all those teams. Save the Midwest for the summer games when possible?

 
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