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Devin Hester (1 Viewer)

Mr. Chumley

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Now that he is spending a little time on offense what will his value be? He was already explosive as a return guy but you can't fill a roster spot in the hopes that he would break one. Does he have any value now for leagues that don't play idp?

 
I traded him and got a 2nd rounder.. I think it ended up being pick 26.. I got either Stanton or Olsen.. I already had the pick after it so I'm not sure which it was.

 
Mr. Chumley said:
Now that he is spending a little time on offense what will his value be? He was already explosive as a return guy but you can't fill a roster spot in the hopes that he would break one. Does he have any value now for leagues that don't play idp?
I believe his value will be directly tied to the individual league scoring system. If he does show up as a WR and If your league rewards PR and KR on an individual basis, that could get get Hester into your # 3WR on spot duty. Wes Welker was definitely a great fill-in at #3 last year in these types of leagues. I do agree with the sentiment that the Chicago WR's are sub-par so I guess I am just waiting to see how training camp shakes out before I make a determination for his value.In Dynasty, I would sell high if you could unless you are forced to designate a KR/PR. At that point I would think Hester is worth every penny to fill a KR/PR position.
 
He's going to get 1 or 2 offensive touches a game, so dont get carried away. Definately worth a flyer in a league where you dont have to pick starters.

 
Hes by far their most explosive player on the team, we've all seen what he does when he touches the ball.

To me, its a shame if they only attempt to give him the ball a couple of time a game.. their WRs are not very talented and me makes for a great slot/distraction/spread the field type player.

 
Hes by far their most explosive player on the team, we've all seen what he does when he touches the ball.To me, its a shame if they only attempt to give him the ball a couple of time a game.. their WRs are not very talented and me makes for a great slot/distraction/spread the field type player.
the problem is, he's not a wr.Kick returns does not equal pass catching/route running, etc. Many have tried this, most have failed, Dante Hall, Deion Sanders, etc.
 
the problem is, he's not a wr.Kick returns does not equal pass catching/route running, etc. Many have tried this, most have failed, Dante Hall, Deion Sanders, etc.
Hes not really anything, its hard to label a position on a player like this... all I'm saying is that the Bears should give this a chance. Sounds like hes doing very well at it in Camp, lets see what happens in pre-season before we dismiss this.
 
Problem is Hester is allegedly not the brightest knife in the shed. Apparently his problems playing DB stem from failure to recognize responsibilities and schemes, not physical inability. Learning an offensive playbook is certainly no easier, and if you dont run the right routes the right way, i dont care how talented you are.

 
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WR Hester Excels At Running Pass Routes

Larry Mayer, ChicagoBears.com - [Full Article]

An assistant coach for the Chicago Bears said that newly-converted to WR Devin Hester is an excellent route runner. He shows natural ability in terms of sinking his hips and coming in and out of breaks. All of the receivers have helped Hester as far as giving him tips about what to look for on certain plays. Hester is well-liked by his teammates and the other receivers are eager to see him do well.

His speed and play making has got me intrested, but I also think of Dante Hall who was listed as a receiver...

 
DH isn't 'draftable' in MFL, fwiw. I'm in the 16th round of a dynasty startup and checked to see.

Though, granted he wouldn't see many plays, the WRs in CHI are not irreplaceable. Mush is declining and BB is a streak pattern - period.

I doubt this could turn into anything, but interesting. Too bad Grossman is the qb there.

 
DH isn't 'draftable' in MFL, fwiw. I'm in the 16th round of a dynasty startup and checked to see.

Though, granted he wouldn't see many plays, the WRs in CHI are not irreplaceable. Mush is declining and BB is a streak pattern - period.

I doubt this could turn into anything, but interesting. Too bad Grossman is the qb there.
I don't see any decline in Muhsin Muhammad. Another 60 plus catches for over 800 yards, typical Muhsin year (not counting his ridiculous 2004 season). People who think he is heading to the bench are mistaken. His run blocking will keep him in the lineup until he has a REAL decline in production. He hasn't had one yet.
 
DH isn't 'draftable' in MFL, fwiw. I'm in the 16th round of a dynasty startup and checked to see.

Though, granted he wouldn't see many plays, the WRs in CHI are not irreplaceable. Mush is declining and BB is a streak pattern - period.

I doubt this could turn into anything, but interesting. Too bad Grossman is the qb there.
I don't see any decline in Muhsin Muhammad. Another 60 plus catches for over 800 yards, typical Muhsin year (not counting his ridiculous 2004 season). People who think he is heading to the bench are mistaken. His run blocking will keep him in the lineup until he has a REAL decline in production. He hasn't had one yet.
Fair enough. I wasn't trying to imply Mush was bench fodder this season, but @ almost 35 yrs. old - he probably doesn't have much left. Especially dynasty wise, which is where I was going. I guess my point was that the CHI WRs are not extraordinary (unfortunately neither is their QB) - which *could* potentially create opportunities for someone like DH. IF they put him on the field as more than a decoy and actually put the ball in his hands to see what he could do. I'm not trying to sell that DH is going to be a dependable WR option in 07, but as a project/experiment and dynasty flier - there are a lot of end of draft 'deep sleepers' with less potential upside. The guy is a playmaker when he has the ball and some space to operate. I can understand why Lovie would attempt to get him more involved.

 
Problem is Hester is allegedly not the brightest knife in the shed. Apparently his problems playing DB stem from failure to recognize responsibilities and schemes, not physical inability. Learning an offensive playbook is certainly no easier, and if you dont run the right routes the right way, i dont care how talented you are.
Where did you see that about his lacking the mental makeup? The stories I've seen says he got by on his athletic ability without spending much time learning the finer points of the position (offense or defense) so he never really tried. Everything out of camp suggests he's a quick study, so I'd be interested to see something like you've mentioned.I guess that's the long version of saying, "link, please?"
 
Hester’s outstanding performance was the highlight of minicamp. Splitting out wide and also lining up in the slot and in the backfield, he displayed excellent hands, unmatched explosiveness and a rare burst while running after the catch.

“I thought he picked it up fairly quick,” said coach Lovie Smith. “He looked comfortable from Day 1 lining up as a receiver, and we know when he gets his hands on the ball he’s definitely comfortable with it. I’m excited about what he’ll bring to our offense this year.”

 
Hes by far their most explosive player on the team, we've all seen what he does when he touches the ball.To me, its a shame if they only attempt to give him the ball a couple of time a game.. their WRs are not very talented and me makes for a great slot/distraction/spread the field type player.
Sounds like your describing Dante Hall circa 2003. He finished with 40/423/1 plus another 73 rushing. Not someone you'd want to have in your weekly lineup unless you get kick/punt return points. :thumbup:
 
106. 403. Hester, Devin CHI CB ® 9 0 0 1 1 10 B 1 -1 6 0 0 9 21 2 2 3

The above is his '06 scoring in our 16 team league. He is listed as a DB.

Avg 4.0 per game. Top DB avg 8.5, #16 avg 7.2.

We start 2 db and have a flex that could be used as DB.

#32 LB avg 6.8, #42 LB avg 6.2

(We give pts for ret yds 35=1, td=6, rec yds 10=1, he picked up a couple of tkl pts as well)

Let's say he picks up some reception ydg in a couple of games, and a TD or two along the way' lets say 24 pts above what he did in 06. That would be #47 db in my league at 88 pts, avg 5.5 per game. That would mean I would be giving up .7 pts per game if I didn't use a 3rd LB as my flex. Since my 3rd lb is better than that I would be giving up more but then again Hester may be better as well.

Gets me thinking that he may be worth a roster spot if he can be had cheap and I have room.

It's late pick my reasoning apart if you would.

 
As someone mentioned earlier, his value will largely be determined by how your league scores KR and PR.

In my league, KR and PR are credited to the DEF/ST. Consequently in my league he has more value as a member of the Chicago Def/ST than as a WR.

 

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