Dez Bryant (1 Viewer)

[hotlanta]

I've been watching some tapes from his games this year and I just get the feeling he is right there on the edge about to bust out Calvin Johnson style. His size, speed, and jumping ability make him impossible to cover. He is just on the cusp and I think once he gets the mental toughness down he will be the top 2 receivers off the board next year. Look for his monster 200 yard 2 TD game to happen any day now. Target him in a trade now!

What do you think?

 

[DevilDog919]

I am a big Dallas fan but not a blind homer, so take this for what its worth. If you've watched every Dallas game, you would see what the OP is talking about. His TD catch last week was pretty amazing, and both against the Lions were him wanting the ball more than the DB. No coverage can beat Bryant, and Romo is quickly learning this. Throw the ball up and give this guy a chance.

Also, knocks about his diva mentalities are overblown. He absolutely LOVES the game of football, and gives it everything he has. He is a young kid and has some maturity issues to overcome, but he will put everything into his game to make him one of the best WR's in the NFL...you can bet on that.

Grab him while you can. Pretty soon you may not have a chance.

 

[Bankerguy]

I am a big Dallas fan but not a blind homer, so take this for what its worth. If you've watched every Dallas game, you would see what the OP is talking about. His TD catch last week was pretty amazing, and both against the Lions were him wanting the ball more than the DB. No coverage can beat Bryant, and Romo is quickly learning this. Throw the ball up and give this guy a chance.Also, knocks about his diva mentalities are overblown. He absolutely LOVES the game of football, and gives it everything he has. He is a young kid and has some maturity issues to overcome, but he will put everything into his game to make him one of the best WR's in the NFL...you can bet on that.Grab him while you can. Pretty soon you may not have a chance.

Good post...and I'll just add something. Talent and heart are not in question here. He's a beast.I believe he will continue to tons of targets and especially RZ targets.The biggest problem that most of us homers know is that his route running is a awful. This could continue to hurt his 4th quater looks in close games.He NEEDS to embrace the mental part of the game and work harder in practice about technique and not just ballin.Overall, I expect his numbers to improve as the year goes on. He is no Megatron though.

 

[Sabertooth]

Why has he been disappearing late in games? I've thought for a few weeks now that he was going to put up a monster, obviously last week was the Murray show.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Why has he been disappearing late in games? I've thought for a few weeks now that he was going to put up a monster, obviously last week was the Murray show.

I read something last week that says Romo doesn't yet trust Bryant late in games. I bet that'll motivate Bryant to do better.

 

[glumpy]

Love the guy and own both him and Romo in my league. Don't count on him though--I think there's a maturity issue there, and honestly not sure which one of those two to look at.

 

[kimbosliced]

Cowboys fan here. Dez has been disappearing towards the end of games for a few reasons. 1) He lacked some conditioning at the beginning of the year. 2) The play calling has gotten real conservative down the stretch--which as a Cowboys fan I am starting to like more than Romo throwing the games away. 3) This cannot be overstated--Romo is still hurting from the crushed ribs and punctured lung. As the season progresses, we should start seeing a lot more Dez, Austin, Romo action. Hell, it may even come this week. As soon as everyone is healthy, look out NFC, the boys are back.

 

[hotlanta]

Agree completely with DevilDog and that's exactly what I saw when I went back and watched the Lions game. I think the fact that he hasn't caught a pass in the 2nd half this year is a fluke. As others have mentioned, Romo is also getting the idea that all he needs to do is throw it up and let Dez get the ball. All it takes in the NFL to succeed is Talent and Opportunity. Right now Dez has them both down (as well as Whitten and Austin taking the pressure off) and I see some great things ahead, starting with the next few games.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

not a Cowboys homer, but just watching the games, I think he is uncoverable. very Megatronic.

 

[HurryUpSundays]

Fantasy wise give me miles 8 days a week.

 

[Multiple Scores]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

 

[The Jerk]

Agree completely with DevilDog and that's exactly what I saw when I went back and watched the Lions game. I think the fact that he hasn't caught a pass in the 2nd half this year is a fluke. As others have mentioned, Romo is also getting the idea that all he needs to do is throw it up and let Dez get the ball. All it takes in the NFL to succeed is Talent and Opportunity. Right now Dez has them both down (as well as Whitten and Austin taking the pressure off) and I see some great things ahead, starting with the next few games.

Although that it's true that Dez had 8 targets without a completion in Weeks 1, 4 and 6 combined, it's inaccurate to state that Dez has not caught a pass in the second half. He did that in his second game (the Cowboys third). More importantly, he had a very productive second half this week against the Rams.

Week 3 vs. WASQtr	Time	Score	Down/Dist	Yardline	Description1	9:23	0 - 3	2nd-and-6	own 24	caught pass for 10 yards (first down)2	3:29	6 - 6	2nd-and-9	opp 20	caught pass for 3 yards3	13:27	9 - 9	3rd-and-8	own 22	caught pass for 20 yards (first down)4	2:19	15 - 16	3rd-and-21	own 30	caught pass for 30 yards (first down)Week 7 vs. STLQtr	Time	Score	Down/Dist	Yardline	Description2	14:22	7 - 0	2nd-and-21	own 45	caught pass for 34 yards (first down)2	13:03	7 - 0	1st-and-4	opp 4	target of incomplete pass2	0:32	14 - 7	2nd-and-12	opp 12	target of incomplete pass2	0:24	14 - 7	3rd-and-12	opp 12	target of incomplete pass3	12:11	17 - 7	3rd-and-10	own 12	caught pass for 13 yards (first down)3	9:25	17 - 7	2nd-and-10	own 38	caught pass for 13 yards (first down)4	11:32	20 - 7	2nd-and-8	opp 28	caught pass for 10 yards (first down)4	4:12	27 - 7	3rd-and-10	opp 20	caught pass for 20 yards TOUCHDOWN

 

[The Jerk]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

I don't see a full blossom of production for Dez coming this year, and it is always possible that it never happens for Dez, but these same comments were regularly said about Calvin Johnson as recently as last season. In many threads of the Shark Pool, specifically. But this year, I haven't seen one comment this year like that about Calvin. Go figure. Maybe it has something to do with him being in his fifth season and now 26 years old.You know, you might want to give the kid one full (not injured) season in the pros before calling him out for failing to live up to his talent. Dez hasn't even turned 23 yet (he will next Friday).

 

[duaneok66]

comparisons to Andre and Megatron are off the mark - he is not as explosive as those two.

 

[LivingTheDream]

comparisons to Andre and Megatron are off the mark - he is not as explosive as those two.

He's better after the catch than either of them.He's just not a professional receiver yet. It takes awhile..

 

[duaneok66]

comparisons to Andre and Megatron are off the mark - he is not as explosive as those two.

He's better after the catch than either of them.He's just not a professional receiver yet. It takes awhile..

explosion before the catch is much more important IMO - he just isnt in the same league. Throw in his immaturity and his mental makeup and (right now) he isn't even in the same paragraph with those two.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

Fantasy wise give me miles 8 days a week.

Not including this past Sunday.

 

[EBF]

comparisons to Andre and Megatron are off the mark - he is not as explosive as those two.

He's better after the catch than either of them.He's just not a professional receiver yet. It takes awhile..

explosion before the catch is much more important IMO - he just isnt in the same league. Throw in his immaturity and his mental makeup and (right now) he isn't even in the same paragraph with those two.

Dez had a 38" vert and an 11'1" standing broad jump at the combine. He doesn't lack fast twitch explosiveness, not that it's essential for elite status. Arguably the two most consistent FF WRs of the past 4 years (Brandon Marshall and Larry Fitzgerald) don't have explosive speed. I think Dez is actually pretty quick though. Certainly quicker laterally than Calvin. It's part of why he's effective on punt returns (rare for a 6'2" 220+ pound WR).

 

[Manster]

comparisons to Andre and Megatron are off the mark - he is not as explosive as those two.

Have you watched him play? Physically, he is as gifted as any WR in the league. He's got maturing to do for sure. skies the limit.

 

[duaneok66]

comparisons to Andre and Megatron are off the mark - he is not as explosive as those two.

Have you watched him play? Physically, he is as gifted as any WR in the league. He's got maturing to do for sure. skies the limit.

yes i have - he's not in their class.

 

[DevilDog919]

comparisons to Andre and Megatron are off the mark - he is not as explosive as those two.

Have you watched him play? Physically, he is as gifted as any WR in the league. He's got maturing to do for sure. skies the limit.

yes i have - he's not in their class.

Did you think they were in "their class" when they were younger? Both AJ and Megatron started off their careers underwhelming owners. It takes a few years for WR's to finally get it. In a few seasons, Dez will be one of the best in the league.

 

[Multiple Scores]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

 

[The Jerk]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

You're right. Dez should have helped the offensive line give Romo some protection, played some cornerback to help a supposedly strong defensive unit, and also lubed up his jersey so that Asomugha couldn't get away with a clear hold roughly 4 feet in front of the official.What would really be cool is if you allowed someone else to bump your post.

 

[Multiple Scores]

You are proving my post for me. Thanks. And your username suits you so good job with that choice.

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

You're right. Dez should have helped the offensive line give Romo some protection, played some cornerback to help a supposedly strong defensive unit, and also lubed up his jersey so that Asomugha couldn't get away with a clear hold roughly 4 feet in front of the official.What would really be cool is if you allowed someone else to bump your post.

 

[The Jerk]

You are proving my post for me. Thanks. And your username suits you so good job with that choice.

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

You're right. Dez should have helped the offensive line give Romo some protection, played some cornerback to help a supposedly strong defensive unit, and also lubed up his jersey so that Asomugha couldn't get away with a clear hold roughly 4 feet in front of the official.What would really be cool is if you allowed someone else to bump your post.

It would be immensely appreciated if you would contribute some actual insight into Dez Bryant and/or the Cowboys receiving corps. It's not too hard. If you would put as much effort into your insights as you do your insults, you would be a much more useful poster.

 

[The Jerk]

You are proving my post for me. Thanks. And your username suits you so good job with that choice.

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

You're right. Dez should have helped the offensive line give Romo some protection, played some cornerback to help a supposedly strong defensive unit, and also lubed up his jersey so that Asomugha couldn't get away with a clear hold roughly 4 feet in front of the official.What would really be cool is if you allowed someone else to bump your post.

It would be immensely appreciated if you would contribute some actual insight into Dez Bryant and/or the Cowboys receiving corps. It's not too hard. If you would put as much effort into your insights as you do your insults, you would be a much more useful poster.

You can use my post -- that you were so busy mocking -- as an example. You know, where I described some of the reasons why Bryant specifically and the Cowboys in general struggled against the Eagles.

 

[chook]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

You're right. Dez should have helped the offensive line give Romo some protection, played some cornerback to help a supposedly strong defensive unit, and also lubed up his jersey so that Asomugha couldn't get away with a clear hold roughly 4 feet in front of the official.What would really be cool is if you allowed someone else to bump your post.

It's hard when so many of us have him on ignore.

 

[mdlane]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

Why are you bumping this? He has been a stud the last few weeks.Are you trying to say Laurent Robinson will be the Cowboys leading WR from here out? Good luck with that story, Bro.

 

[The Jerk]

What would really be cool is if you allowed someone else to bump your post.

It's hard when so many of us have him on ignore.

The thing is, it is possible to be smart alecky while still being a contributor. In the "Is Dez Bryant a WR1 for the rest of the season" or something like it thread, M.S. made a snarky comment along the lines of "if you state Dez is a WR1, who does he replace from this list" and had 20-21 WRs listed below. Personally, I'll take that any day. It's a good point because too often around here we hype up too many players and it's not possible to have 20 WR1s and 20 WR2s although that's what you sometimes see suggested in the Shark Pool. Now, as to the specifics of M.S.'s assertions in that thread, I believe a number of posters were able to make a solid case for knocking out 10 or so WRs making Dez a low WR1. A lot of times, it isn't what you say, it's how you say it. I like a good discussion and if I wanted my every view reaffirmed I wouldn't come to the Shark Pool. In fact, I usually learn more when my views are challenged rather than confirmed. And truly, the differences of opinion on players is what makes fantasy sports possible. I just wish discussions could be done in a less juvenile manner.

 

[Pots]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

This is the post that's on the mark the most.Dez Pros:Elite Megatron/Andre talentVery physical receiverOne of the best after the catchCan be in a high-productive offenseDez Cons:Romo instability (which has a lot to do with #2)O-Line instabilityHas shown to be injury-prone Is not Romo's 1st option when he's in troubleHe has every ability to perform at the level of Calvin/Andre but Romo under pressure is holding him back. Romo looks for him often when he has time to sit and wait for the rout to complete, but when he's under pressure, he doesn't look at Dez. He's not comfortable throwing to him in a panic for whatever reason. This is partly Romo's limitations and mostly the Cowboys sub-par young offensive line. If you can predict how well Romo will have time in the pocket, you can probably predict fairly accurately how well Dez will do.

 

[Donsmith753]

Guy is fast becoming my favourite player. He's straight up crazy.

 

[sspunisher]

A lot of you treat Bryant like he's a disapppointing 4 or 5 year vet. The talent he's show us has been nothing short of outstanding and if you'd stop being so critical for a bit, you'd realize he's well on his way towards that 3rd year WR breakout. It blows my mind that he was drafted in 2010.

Some might compare him to quicker fantasy producers like AJ Green, but let's be honest, if Romo locked on Dez the way Dalton locked on Green, you'd see those same type of numbers. We just conveniently ignore the fact that Green might cause an int or run a wrong route b/c he makes it up with a huge stat line. Cowboys don't need to force feed Dez so you don't see the huge #s.

Wait for it, it'll come together for Dez. I predict a late 2011 explosion and his stock skyrocketing in 2012.

 

[CentralPA]

Bryant is gonig to be good, last nights game is no reflection on what his capabilties and how high his ceiling is. The kids very good. As an Eagles fan I dread him becoming another Michael Irvin, and he'll probably be better.

 

[The Doctor]

the whole dallas team blew last night. but it was funny seeing dez lose it after that ref missed the PI

 

[Wadsworth]

Dez can't target himself. Long stretches of the game went by where Romo did not even look his way much less throw a ball.

 

[Multiple Scores]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

Amazing. Bumping this and I get reamed and should be on ignore lists. I actually thought I was replying to this thread here - Is Dez a WR1 for the rest of the season - MY mistake. What I have said is he has immense talent. He won't produce at a point he is touted. In the other thread I put him down as a WR2, and put up 21 other names saying pick 10 he will outproduce. There were 5-6 guys on that list I thought he'd outproduce but included them because other people are higher on different players than I am, so really I have Dez somewhere around WR16-WR19 and not a WR1-WR12 for the season going forward. Starting this week just the same as that other thread debuted Dez is WR55 so far in one week and will surely climb but I don't think into the top 12.

My whole knock on Dez in this thread was we will hear "He would have, He should have, He could have" and after one week I hear those comments in response to me bumping my post.

"He would have *blank* if Tony Romo *blank*"

"He should have *blank* if Nhamdi didn't *blank*"

"He could have *blank* if the O-line *blank*"

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda...

The fact is he is not producing as a WR1... Period. He could have if..... got it.

Other typical comments we will hear and have heard about Dez will be...

"He could have *blank* if he didn't get dinged up".

"He would have *blank* if the Cowboys didn't take a big lead".

"He should have *blank* if Witten/Austin *blank*".

I said he is talented, I get tired of hearing he's elite and a monster. He might have elite skills or elite talent but the fact is he is not producing at an elite level. In fantasy football give me points, that is the only thing I want.

 

[Wadsworth]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

Amazing. Bumping this and I get reamed and should be on ignore lists. I actually thought I was replying to this thread here - Is Dez a WR1 for the rest of the season - MY mistake. What I have said is he has immense talent. He won't produce at a point he is touted. In the other thread I put him down as a WR2, and put up 21 other names saying pick 10 he will outproduce. There were 5-6 guys on that list I thought he'd outproduce but included them because other people are higher on different players than I am, so really I have Dez somewhere around WR16-WR19 and not a WR1-WR12 for the season going forward. Starting this week just the same as that other thread debuted Dez is WR55 so far in one week and will surely climb but I don't think into the top 12.

My whole knock on Dez in this thread was we will hear "He would have, He should have, He could have" and after one week I hear those comments in response to me bumping my post.

"He would have *blank* if Tony Romo *blank*"

"He should have *blank* if Nhamdi didn't *blank*"

"He could have *blank* if the O-line *blank*"

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda...

The fact is he is not producing as a WR1... Period. He could have if..... got it.

Other typical comments we will hear and have heard about Dez will be...

"He could have *blank* if he didn't get dinged up".

"He would have *blank* if the Cowboys didn't take a big lead".

"He should have *blank* if Witten/Austin *blank*".

I said he is talented, I get tired of hearing he's elite and a monster. He might have elite skills or elite talent but the fact is he is not producing at an elite level. In fantasy football give me points, that is the only thing I want.

And if we held drafts in March for the previous season then your argument would be spot on target. Winning in fantasy football is not about recognizing how many points a guy is putting up, my 7 year old niece can read a box score. More often than not you win by being able to identify players who can outperform their current perceived value. Bryant may or may not be one of those players. But your argument that a second year WR that has battled multiple injuries just can't get it done seems premature and without fundamental understanding of how you win competitive leagues.

 

[Hendo]

the whole dallas team blew last night. but it was funny seeing dez lose it after that ref missed the PI

Asomugha does get away with so many plain as day calls... idk why but everyone could see him just grab and hold onto Dez are in the endzone.

 

[jonboltz]

And if we held drafts in March for the previous season then your argument would be spot on target. Winning in fantasy football is not about recognizing how many points a guy is putting up, my 7 year old niece can read a box score. More often than not you win by being able to identify players who can outperform their current perceived value. Bryant may or may not be one of those players. But your argument that a second year WR that has battled multiple injuries just can't get it done seems premature and without fundamental understanding of how you win competitive leagues.

My concern with Dez is the inverse of this comment -- I think he is percieved as a top 5 dynasty WR, while I think his actual value is more in the 10-15 range.

 

[Dizzy]

Before we crown him as the next Andre Johnson… he has to shake out of his Mike Sims-Walker outfit.

Dez has potential, but he’s young and raw, so FOR NOW he’s a good start against weak defenses and a potential goose egg versus a tougher secondary.

 

[Multiple Scores]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

Amazing. Bumping this and I get reamed and should be on ignore lists. I actually thought I was replying to this thread here - Is Dez a WR1 for the rest of the season - MY mistake. What I have said is he has immense talent. He won't produce at a point he is touted. In the other thread I put him down as a WR2, and put up 21 other names saying pick 10 he will outproduce. There were 5-6 guys on that list I thought he'd outproduce but included them because other people are higher on different players than I am, so really I have Dez somewhere around WR16-WR19 and not a WR1-WR12 for the season going forward. Starting this week just the same as that other thread debuted Dez is WR55 so far in one week and will surely climb but I don't think into the top 12.

My whole knock on Dez in this thread was we will hear "He would have, He should have, He could have" and after one week I hear those comments in response to me bumping my post.

"He would have *blank* if Tony Romo *blank*"

"He should have *blank* if Nhamdi didn't *blank*"

"He could have *blank* if the O-line *blank*"

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda...

The fact is he is not producing as a WR1... Period. He could have if..... got it.

Other typical comments we will hear and have heard about Dez will be...

"He could have *blank* if he didn't get dinged up".

"He would have *blank* if the Cowboys didn't take a big lead".

"He should have *blank* if Witten/Austin *blank*".

I said he is talented, I get tired of hearing he's elite and a monster. He might have elite skills or elite talent but the fact is he is not producing at an elite level. In fantasy football give me points, that is the only thing I want.

And if we held drafts in March for the previous season then your argument would be spot on target. Winning in fantasy football is not about recognizing how many points a guy is putting up, my 7 year old niece can read a box score. More often than not you win by being able to identify players who can outperform their current perceived value. Bryant may or may not be one of those players. But your argument that a second year WR that has battled multiple injuries just can't get it done seems premature and without fundamental understanding of how you win competitive leagues.

I understand how to win competitive leagues and identifying players who outperform their perceived values and ADPS. Does Dez have what it takes, yes he does but he hasn't done it yet, he shows flashes. This year I consistently drafted Bowe and Wes Welker in my drafts and Dez was gone before them in my drafts. As of early this year it seemed that Dez was the guy to have and Bowe was the guy to avoid, how Bowe would bust and Dez would flourish can be found in excess on this forum. I like production, I like to see that production and have players who perform and don't tease for whatever reason. I would hold onto Dez in dynasty, his time will likely come, I don't see him as a WR1 going forward for this year but that seems to be general thinking around here. I have owned Beanie since day one in dynasty and held onto him. I was getting really tired of hearing myself say "Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda". It was either Hightower, Warner throwing too much with no running game, Last season with the scrubs at QB not throwing enough to unstack the box, bad oline play, history of AZ stinking at the run, fear of Ryan Williams taking over, etc;

I am saying Dez is a hold in dynasty, maybe even a buy candidate. Expecting him to become a WR1 right now, this minute, for this season is a mistake in my opinion.

 

[Wadsworth]

And if we held drafts in March for the previous season then your argument would be spot on target. Winning in fantasy football is not about recognizing how many points a guy is putting up, my 7 year old niece can read a box score. More often than not you win by being able to identify players who can outperform their current perceived value. Bryant may or may not be one of those players. But your argument that a second year WR that has battled multiple injuries just can't get it done seems premature and without fundamental understanding of how you win competitive leagues.

My concern with Dez is the inverse of this comment -- I think he is percieved as a top 5 dynasty WR, while I think his actual value is more in the 10-15 range.

Well that's the trick isn't it. I actually agree that many people in dynasty are over valuing Dez at this point. His skills set is amazing but at this point Romo is severely limiting his value. And Dez is doing a bit to limit his value as well.

 

[Banger]

And if we held drafts in March for the previous season then your argument would be spot on target. Winning in fantasy football is not about recognizing how many points a guy is putting up, my 7 year old niece can read a box score. More often than not you win by being able to identify players who can outperform their current perceived value. Bryant may or may not be one of those players. But your argument that a second year WR that has battled multiple injuries just can't get it done seems premature and without fundamental understanding of how you win competitive leagues.

My concern with Dez is the inverse of this comment -- I think he is percieved as a top 5 dynasty WR, while I think his actual value is more in the 10-15 range.

in that case you trade him.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Guy is fast becoming my favourite player. He's straight up crazy.

The crazy seems quite strong with this one.

 

[Donsmith753]

Guy is fast becoming my favourite player. He's straight up crazy.

The crazy seems quite strong with this one.

He just seems so passionate, it's brilliant. Can't help but love the guy.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Guy is fast becoming my favourite player. He's straight up crazy.

The crazy seems quite strong with this one.

He just seems so passionate, it's brilliant. Can't help but love the guy.

Agree. There will also be plenty of both on and off field drama with him over the next several years.

 

[duaneok66]

The guy has immense talent but he's going to be a guy owners will keep saying: He could have, He would have, He should have. I think he will be highly touted and for whatever reason fail to be that productive.

Bump

Amazing. Bumping this and I get reamed and should be on ignore lists. I actually thought I was replying to this thread here - Is Dez a WR1 for the rest of the season - MY mistake. What I have said is he has immense talent. He won't produce at a point he is touted. In the other thread I put him down as a WR2, and put up 21 other names saying pick 10 he will outproduce. There were 5-6 guys on that list I thought he'd outproduce but included them because other people are higher on different players than I am, so really I have Dez somewhere around WR16-WR19 and not a WR1-WR12 for the season going forward. Starting this week just the same as that other thread debuted Dez is WR55 so far in one week and will surely climb but I don't think into the top 12.

My whole knock on Dez in this thread was we will hear "He would have, He should have, He could have" and after one week I hear those comments in response to me bumping my post.

"He would have *blank* if Tony Romo *blank*"

"He should have *blank* if Nhamdi didn't *blank*"

"He could have *blank* if the O-line *blank*"

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda...

The fact is he is not producing as a WR1... Period. He could have if..... got it.

Other typical comments we will hear and have heard about Dez will be...

"He could have *blank* if he didn't get dinged up".

"He would have *blank* if the Cowboys didn't take a big lead".

"He should have *blank* if Witten/Austin *blank*".

I said he is talented, I get tired of hearing he's elite and a monster. He might have elite skills or elite talent but the fact is he is not producing at an elite level. In fantasy football give me points, that is the only thing I want.

this.

I watch every Cowboys game and of course he is very good - but please let's stop the ELITE talk - again this word is overused in FF.