MountainMan0726
Footballguy
Very basic question, who's the better Dynasty asset to own over the next 10 years, Dez or Julio, and why?
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Dez vs. Julio (1 Viewer)
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I'd bet on Julio. For one, he's got his head on straight, so no headaches there. His QB is younger and continuing to get better, where as Romo could be out of Dallas in a couple years and who knows what happens then? Another plus is Gonzalez retiring soon, so more red-zone targets. Julio, like Calvin in his early years, has out of this world tools, but needs more time to finally match his play to his potential.
Why do that?
cmv5
Footballguy
This is what makes me favor Julio. The one thing that still bugs me about Julio is he doesn't seem to be a natural catcher. I have seen him miss out one some long receptions/tds on some catches that Fitzgerald, Calvin, or A.J. Green would have made. Also, he could really stand to improve on his route running. There are times it seems he is a little out of place. He is such a hard worker that I expect the route running to definitely improve, but his hands might hold him back from that ultra elite level.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I have Julio above Dez for character reasons. Dez and Harvin in PPR are neck and neck.
fredsavage
Footballguy
His body is ultra elite in a way that Fitz and AJ's aren't and because of this he creates opportunities that other receivers would not have had in the first place. Plus Matty literally force feeds him in the red zone. Yeah his hands aren't the softest but he's not Braylon Edwards. Dez Knucklehead factor = Julio wins.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
You don't like threads that cause pointless arguments where everyone thinks there right when there's no real answer?
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andrew11
Footballguy
It's not an argument, it's a discussion. There's a big difference.I love Dez, but I'd have to take Julio because I agree that Romos' days a more numbered than Matt Ryan's.
ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
Julio, but not because of Dez's head. Julio is just the better talent.
I have Julio barely here is why, Matt Ryan is younger, Roddy White is ok with being the second man and is better than Miles Austin, and the he is better off the field than Dez.
Why Dez keeps it close, he seems to embrace the role of being the guy more, even though Julio hasn't had his chance just yet, by the eyeball test Dez seems to be the better receiver to me, he has been carrying this team on his back for awhile (obviously Romo has to get ball) but Julio hasn't had to do that yet.
Why Dez keeps it close, he seems to embrace the role of being the guy more, even though Julio hasn't had his chance just yet, by the eyeball test Dez seems to be the better receiver to me, he has been carrying this team on his back for awhile (obviously Romo has to get ball) but Julio hasn't had to do that yet.
Lavachebeadsman
Footballguy
I think I have to go with Dez, but they are both top 5 options with Calvin, DT and AJ Green.
If you are going next 10 years, I would take out Calvin and put in Harvin. Next 5 years I like your list.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Why would you ever consider the next 10 years? Totally impractical.
Because that is what the OP asked. Total reading the post fail
Those guys will be more valuable than Calvin 10 years from now, but that's not the same as being more valuable over the next 10 years. I wouldn't be surprised to see those receivers match Calvin in VBD over the next 10 years, but the fact that Calvin will score his in a more compact time-frame makes his more valuable.
I don't disagree with you, just look at his last 2 seasons as he enters the prime of his career. I would draft Calvin first overall in a start up dynasty right now because of the advantage he will give you over the next 4 or 5 years over every receiver.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Okay, so it was the OP's impractical time frame, rather than yours. My bad.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I'd give the edge to Julio. The Falcons feel like a team on the rise where the Cowboys feel more like a team spinning their wheels.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
x2.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Harvin? Are you kidding?
Really an are you kidding me? I would understand if you like someone better but you act like he is a scrub
Calvin Johnson
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
No I didn't. I just don't see how he is possibly a top 5 WR option for the next 10 years. A WR who in four years so far has yet to break double digit TDs in a season or even go over 1,000 yards receiving (although he did 1,300+ combined last year) is a top 5 option for the next 10 years? Sorry, I don't see it. He is a tremendous talent, but he strikes me as one of those guys who some think has such great potential to be a stud that they overlook what he has done and continually project him to do more than he has proven capable of doing thus far.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I would take Dez or Harvin (PPR) right after JJ. Whats scary is that it seems Dez just now put it together.
Nucker101
Footballguy
I think both have great upside based on pure ability, but I'd take Julio in a dynasty just because he isn't a head case like Dez. Plus with Roddy/Gonzo aging and Matt Ryan just entering his prime years I could see him really exploding. I could see Romo declining starting as soon as next season.
If I owned one of them in a dynasty, I'd love to get my hands on the other as well.
If I owned one of them in a dynasty, I'd love to get my hands on the other as well.
Over the last two years, he's averaging 6.0 receptions, 83.4 yards, and .48 TDs per game. That's 96/1334/8 per 16 games, and those numbers have been trending steadily upwards his entire career. He's top 5 in ppg in ppr this year (also top 5 in my yardage heavy league). He has done this despite atrocious QB play. 80+% of his yards come after the catch, which makes him matchup-proof. Plus, he's the only WR in the league that doubles as a goal-line RB. He's insanely talented, to the point where at midseason PFF called him the second best player in the league at any position behind Watt. He's also 24 years old. Is it really so hard to believe he could be a top 5 dynasty receiver in ppr?Edit: plus he gets kickoff return TDs, if your league counts those. 5 for his career, 2 in the last two years (25 games).
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donkshow
Footballguy
Actually you did. You act like he shouldn't even be in the conversation. In his four years he has also had touchdown totals of 8 and 9 with rushing and return tds. I suppose Andre Johnson was never a top 5 dynasty receiver either because he has never hit 10 touchdowns in any year in his career.
