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Dhani Jones signs with the Saints (1 Viewer)

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/....xml&coll=1

IF he gets moved back to his natural weak side position does this mean Jones actually has some value again? The Saints don't have a lot of depth at LB and while Shanle was solid last year he was certainly no stud at the position. This could actually be worth keeping an eye on.
I think the entire Saints LB group is a FF nightmare to try and figure out, especially with Simmons being hurt so much, and also trying to figure who will play in nickel defenses.
 
http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/....xml&coll=1

IF he gets moved back to his natural weak side position does this mean Jones actually has some value again? The Saints don't have a lot of depth at LB and while Shanle was solid last year he was certainly no stud at the position. This could actually be worth keeping an eye on.
I think the entire Saints LB group is a FF nightmare to try and figure out, especially with Simmons being hurt so much, and also trying to figure who will play in nickel defenses.
I don't see any potential value for Jones. He may push for a roster spot because of the poor depth the Saints have but he won't bump Shanle to claim one of the two OLB spots. Jones has been terrible against the run in the past two seasons and completely dropped off the depth chart in Philadelphia's nickel package. As was said, Shanle may not be great, but he played well enough last year.I'll be surprised if Simmons and Fujita aren't the nickel backers, although I think the health concerns with Simmons are valid until proven otherwise. Shanle may have been a slightly better option than Simoneau in the nickel last year but that's not saying much.

 
http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/....xml&coll=1

IF he gets moved back to his natural weak side position does this mean Jones actually has some value again? The Saints don't have a lot of depth at LB and while Shanle was solid last year he was certainly no stud at the position. This could actually be worth keeping an eye on.
I think the entire Saints LB group is a FF nightmare to try and figure out, especially with Simmons being hurt so much, and also trying to figure who will play in nickel defenses.
I don't see any potential value for Jones. He may push for a roster spot because of the poor depth the Saints have but he won't bump Shanle to claim one of the two OLB spots. Jones has been terrible against the run in the past two seasons and completely dropped off the depth chart in Philadelphia's nickel package. As was said, Shanle may not be great, but he played well enough last year.I'll be surprised if Simmons and Fujita aren't the nickel backers, although I think the health concerns with Simmons are valid until proven otherwise. Shanle may have been a slightly better option than Simoneau in the nickel last year but that's not saying much.
;) That's harsh dude. What are your thoughts on Marvin Mitchell? I doubt he's better than a healthy Simmons, but I think he could do better than Simoneau did last year...which again isn't saying a whole lot but he could develop into a pretty good player regardless.
 
Simoneau's actually pretty good in nickel. I wouldn't be surprised if he kept that role. He's pretty heady and usually around the ball, problem is he gets run over a bit.

Jones looks like nothing more than an ST/depth signing to me.

 
Simoneau's actually pretty good in nickel. I wouldn't be surprised if he kept that role. He's pretty heady and usually around the ball, problem is he gets run over a bit.Jones looks like nothing more than an ST/depth signing to me.
Simoneau wasn't a part of the nickel package in New Orleans last year. He has even less chance of being a part of it this year.
 
Jene Bramel said:
Simoneau wasn't a part of the nickel package in New Orleans last year. He has even less chance of being a part of it this year.
I don't know where you are getting your information but I can assure you that he did in fact play in nickel/dime situations quite often. I've got 6 or 7 games on DVD which confirm it.
 
Jene Bramel said:
Simoneau wasn't a part of the nickel package in New Orleans last year. He has even less chance of being a part of it this year.
I don't know where you are getting your information but I can assure you that he did in fact play in nickel/dime situations quite often. I've got 6 or 7 games on DVD which confirm it.
Fair enough. I can't argue with a homer's DVR. :thumbup: I saw the Saints play CIN, ATL and DAL during the regular season and don't remember Simoneau on the field during the nickel and dime packages. There was a blurb around the beginning of free agency from the Times-Picayune beat writer suggesting that Simoneau didn't play in either package but I can't find the link tonight. This gamebook from last season shows Simoneau was out of the starting lineup when the Saints started in the nickel against Dallas. Those things were what I based my statements on.

Thanks for the clarification. Eyes-on information is much better than relying on writers to me. I expected to see Simoneau in the nickel over Shanle last year and wrote as much in our preseason team report, it's clearly been his strong suit for some time. I was surprised last year to see/read him on the sidelines last year in my observations. Be interesting to see how it shakes out with Simmons around.

 
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stevegamer said:
You know, raiding the Eagles cast off LB's doesn't seem to be a sound strategy to me.Is it just me?
Saints got Simoneau who played well enough to start last year & will provide some very good depth going forward and a 4th round pick which netted us Jermon Bushrod, an excellent OT who could start as soon as this year. What did the Eagles get? 12 games for 725 yds & 5 tds. How sound does that seem to you now?As far as Jones is concerned the Saints need depth, Jones (who started for the Eagles) will be a backup for the Saints with a one year deal at a relatively low price. I don't see how that could be a bad idea.
 
stevegamer said:
You know, raiding the Eagles cast off LB's doesn't seem to be a sound strategy to me.Is it just me?
Saints got Simoneau who played well enough to start last year & will provide some very good depth going forward and a 4th round pick which netted us Jermon Bushrod, an excellent OT who could start as soon as this year. What did the Eagles get? 12 games for 725 yds & 5 tds. How sound does that seem to you now?As far as Jones is concerned the Saints need depth, Jones (who started for the Eagles) will be a backup for the Saints with a one year deal at a relatively low price. I don't see how that could be a bad idea.
I wasn't impressed with Simoneau when they got him, but he was okay as a Saint. Jones is not good - if he plays significant time, that's a minus.Problem is those guys really aren't starter quality.The Bushrod pick will actually make this deal, most likely.
 
I wasn't impressed with Simoneau when they got him, but he was okay as a Saint. Jones is not good - if he plays significant time, that's a minus.Problem is those guys really aren't starter quality.The Bushrod pick will actually make this deal, most likely.
I was surprised Danny Clark didn't play more. What happned to him anyway?
 
stevegamer said:
You know, raiding the Eagles cast off LB's doesn't seem to be a sound strategy to me.Is it just me?
Saints got Simoneau who played well enough to start last year & will provide some very good depth going forward and a 4th round pick which netted us Jermon Bushrod, an excellent OT who could start as soon as this year. What did the Eagles get? 12 games for 725 yds & 5 tds. How sound does that seem to you now?As far as Jones is concerned the Saints need depth, Jones (who started for the Eagles) will be a backup for the Saints with a one year deal at a relatively low price. I don't see how that could be a bad idea.
I wasn't impressed with Simoneau when they got him, but he was okay as a Saint. Jones is not good - if he plays significant time, that's a minus.Problem is those guys really aren't starter quality.The Bushrod pick will actually make this deal, most likely.
Neither Jones or Simoneau are really starter quality guys, but they do provide very good depth which was my main point. To say that bringing them in is not a sound strategy is pretty short-sided IMO. They are both cheap & both are better than many teams #2, what's not to like?
 
bcr8f said:
I was surprised Danny Clark didn't play more. What happned to him anyway?
He played mostly on early downs against the run. Did a pretty nice job too. He must be absolutely useless in coverage.....that's the only explanation for why he wasn't the full-time MLB.
 
bcr8f said:
I was surprised Danny Clark didn't play more. What happned to him anyway?
He played mostly on early downs against the run. Did a pretty nice job too. He must be absolutely useless in coverage.....that's the only explanation for why he wasn't the full-time MLB.
that was the knock on him with the raiders, as i recall. solid tackler but footspeed was an issue. his tackles were late and too far from the LOS. shoring up the run defense was a priority for the saints last year. shanle and fujita were great hustle guys, i thought.
 

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