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Dion Lewis (1 Viewer)
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Own this guy in two leagues and really want to get him into my lineup this week, but am not sure who I play him over.
In one (standard scoring, start 2 RBs and no RB flex) I have Forte and Ivory. If Ivory sits he's a no-brainer (and based on last week, even if he plays at less than 100% he's still risky).
In another (0.5 PPR, start 2 RBs + RB/WR flex) I have Hill, Stewart, Woodhead, MJones and Starks. I've been starting Hill, Stewart and Woodhead so far. Considering subbing Lewis for Stewart, though I do really like the NO matchup this week. Then again, if Lacy is definitely out, Starks becomes intriguing as well.
As of right now, I'm leaning toward starting him over Ivory in one league and Stewart in the other. But I could change my mind a millions times before Sunday.
In one (standard scoring, start 2 RBs and no RB flex) I have Forte and Ivory. If Ivory sits he's a no-brainer (and based on last week, even if he plays at less than 100% he's still risky).
In another (0.5 PPR, start 2 RBs + RB/WR flex) I have Hill, Stewart, Woodhead, MJones and Starks. I've been starting Hill, Stewart and Woodhead so far. Considering subbing Lewis for Stewart, though I do really like the NO matchup this week. Then again, if Lacy is definitely out, Starks becomes intriguing as well.
As of right now, I'm leaning toward starting him over Ivory in one league and Stewart in the other. But I could change my mind a millions times before Sunday.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
I'm in for a Star next to this thread, spent a pretty penny of my ww this week to land him.....
NREC34
Footballguy
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
Starting him as a flex in my 16 team dynasty ppr league over a bunch of wr question marks (Baldwin, Hurns, Coleman, Watkins, James Jones).
This guy has been killing it for me in my bestball leagues (2 dynasty, 1 redraft).
This guy has been killing it for me in my bestball leagues (2 dynasty, 1 redraft).
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P Park Pimps
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Just offered Brandin Cooks and Doug Martin for him. Wish me luck.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
Great comparison. I remember how good Dunn looked in 2000 when he had 1,500 yards and 9 TDs.
I can imagine a situation where NE has the game in hand and Dion fumbles again. I'm pretty sure Belichick would have to bench him for a while in order to send a message.
However, if it's another game where he dominates the RB touches, I'm going to make an offer to the Blount owner. I want them both.
However, if it's another game where he dominates the RB touches, I'm going to make an offer to the Blount owner. I want them both.
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Avery
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Unless you play in a best ball league, I'm not sure why, short of getting a "good deal" or looking for a handcuff, it would make sense on it's face to acquire Blount if you have Lewis.
Yeah, I'll be looking to handcuff to Lewis, who I have in lots of leagues thanks to FBGs. He was getting hyped on this board pretty early. I might overpay a little as a Lewis owner, but I'd be looking to pay handcuff prices.
This might be an offense where both backs are viable week to week.
ponchsox
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LeGarrette Blount - RB - Patriots
According to ESPN Boston, "word is" LeGarrette Blount will play a bigger role in Week 3 against the Jaguars.
Blount was limited to seven snaps in Week 2 after missing the NFL opener due to a suspension. A bigger role might not mean much for Week 3 considering how little Blount played in last week's win over the Bills, but it would make some sense for the Patriots to try to get their power-running game rolling against the Jaguars. They could have a big lead in the second half, and Blount is a better fit for "closer" work than pint-sized scatback Dion Lewis.
Source: ESPN.com Sep 25 - 3:57 PM
According to ESPN Boston, "word is" LeGarrette Blount will play a bigger role in Week 3 against the Jaguars.
Blount was limited to seven snaps in Week 2 after missing the NFL opener due to a suspension. A bigger role might not mean much for Week 3 considering how little Blount played in last week's win over the Bills, but it would make some sense for the Patriots to try to get their power-running game rolling against the Jaguars. They could have a big lead in the second half, and Blount is a better fit for "closer" work than pint-sized scatback Dion Lewis.
Source: ESPN.com Sep 25 - 3:57 PM
tone1oc
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mnmplayer
Footballguy
Combined Efficiency: Dion Lewis
Speaking of the Patriot’s system, Dion Lewis is thriving in it. Lewis posted the second highest combined FPOE of the week (behind Jones), with terrific efficiency as both a rusher and receiver. In fact, while generally considered a receiving threat, Lewis was more efficient on the ground than through the air. I’m a believer in Lewis in that I think the receiving role is his unless he suffers an injury or fumbles the job away. But I also think LeGarrette Blount will begin playing a much larger role soon, probably as early as this week.
taken from here: http://rotoviz.com/2015/09/7-takeaways-week-2-rb-opportunity-report/
They have some interesting things to say about other RB situations as well if interested.
Speaking of the Patriot’s system, Dion Lewis is thriving in it. Lewis posted the second highest combined FPOE of the week (behind Jones), with terrific efficiency as both a rusher and receiver. In fact, while generally considered a receiving threat, Lewis was more efficient on the ground than through the air. I’m a believer in Lewis in that I think the receiving role is his unless he suffers an injury or fumbles the job away. But I also think LeGarrette Blount will begin playing a much larger role soon, probably as early as this week.
taken from here: http://rotoviz.com/2015/09/7-takeaways-week-2-rb-opportunity-report/
They have some interesting things to say about other RB situations as well if interested.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm going to be uploading a video of all of Lewis's touches last week soon, prepare to be amazed.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Just caught the NEP/BUF game on my NFL on demand. Lewis is explosive. Can't wait to see the consolidated clip.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
I watched all of Dion's week 2 touches earlier today. My pants got tight. Still....Jags in town week 3. Can't help but think Blount is front & center for this one.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I am thoroughly looking forward to this. Maybe way more than I should be.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
"Pint-sized scatback" is an exceedingly poor description of Lewis. He is short (5'8") but stout, and he is hardly a "scatback".
Rimez
Footballguy
he is 190 soaking wet.
im thinking cadet (who has been hurt) could be the 3rd down back coming out of the bye when he is fully healthy, he has 5 inches and 20 lbs on lewis and they brought him in to catch the ball. its speculation at this point but shouldnt be ignored imo. lewis was given a great opportunity with the blount suspension, cadet hammy, and white being a bust, but in no way are the pats invested in him.
AcerFC
Footballguy
that little bubble screen where he makes 3 guys miss is sweet
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Lewis has shown more in two games than Cadet has shown in his entire career so far. No reason to think he's going to start taking away work from such a breakout player.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Hoss Style
Footballguy
This is great content. Thanks.
And whoever mentioned that Lewis will be out of picture when Cadet comes back... have you watched Lewis run? He's that good. Watch SSND's link. Barring injury, this guy will be a big part of the Pats offense, unless there is something Bill knows that we are totally missing. Lewis makes cuts like very few backs I've seen. He avoids direct hits, and almost always makes the first guy miss, along with the second.
SaintsInDome2006
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I thought Lewis looked great in Cleveland, it's funny they did all that shuffling of RBs and they had Lewis all along. And he was at Philly. Amazing how some players can never get a chance unless they land in the right place. Would Woodhead have ever been anything if not for BB?
cubbie5150
Footballguy
There should be no complaining if Dion does little this week. I mean, owners should realize what they bought, the bad & the good. I'm starting Dion, and if it does turn out to be a Leg Blount game, I wont be in here lamenting that.
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Insoxicated
Yep.
But given how overbalanced the offense has been in his favor, and given the matchup... Surely this will be a "hammer" game... With Blount getting much/most of the work. Has to be... Right?!
His floor is still pretty dam high. even with Blount getting his share, Deon should get 10+ touches with a few rec's mixed in. Now if BB just doesn't use Lewis at all, which is entirely possible knowing his past, then that's a different story. But realistically, barring that worst case scenario, Deon should at the very least get 6-7 fantasy Pts in ppr. Minimum. Not good but not disgusting either.
pats3in4
Footballguy
Great work. Thanks for all of the effort you put into that.
I can see why Bill lets him continue playing despite the fumbles. Dion has the best combination of vision and decisiveness of any RB the Pats have had in a long time. He doesn't just blindly burst into the hole the play is designed for, nor does he dance while looking for one.
I do think Bill will limit his touches to preserve the guy. But the Pats offense by nature will limit his touches with Brady's arm being the focal point.
He'll be the primary back because he's a legitimate threat in both the running and passing game. Bill likes versatile personnel groupings to keep the D guessing and Dion fits that strategy better than Blount.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Honestly, I more or less expect Blount to get 15-20 touches. However, my alternative has looked so damn uninspiring, I'd rather roll the dice on the guy in the vastly more dynamic offense. Of course, YMMV, and many here would likely go the other way if they had my choice.
rjv
Footballguy
Agreed in ppr he is a start no matter the match up at this point
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TheDirtyWord
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Since 2013, Blount has carried the ball 280 times. 13 of those carries occurred in shotgun formation.
Since 2013, Brady has either been sacked or attempted a pass 1366 times. 907 of those in shotgun formation.
Since 2013, Brady has either been sacked or attempted a pass 1366 times. 907 of those in shotgun formation.
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pghrob
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Thanks for compiling and posting. For those of you who watched all those plays, please describe your opinion of Lewis. What do you think after watching him?
pghrob
Footballguy
Good post. His vision and patience, and ability to quickly hit the narrow openings is uncanny. He is a complete back. He'said run this way since his freshman year at Pitt.
packersfan
Footballguy
It's fair to assume Blount will have a larger role either perhaps beginning this week.But ask yourself this - other than the fumbles what has Lewis done to merit a significant reduction in his role? And considering Belichick kept going to him repeatedly after the fumbles it's clear he hasn't lost trust in him.
The Patriots rarely just line up and play power run football for 60 minutes. That's not who they are. They like to come out and throw a lot. Even in the playoff win over Indy last season when Blount got 30 carries, Vereen still caught 3 passes and topped 7 points in PPR. As someone noted above that's not great but it's probably not going to kill you either.
Even if Lewis is just "The new Vereen" it's hard for me to see him going away given what he's done so far. In PPR he looks at worst to be a strong flex play at worst with a much higher ceiling.
The Patriots rarely just line up and play power run football for 60 minutes. That's not who they are. They like to come out and throw a lot. Even in the playoff win over Indy last season when Blount got 30 carries, Vereen still caught 3 passes and topped 7 points in PPR. As someone noted above that's not great but it's probably not going to kill you either.
Even if Lewis is just "The new Vereen" it's hard for me to see him going away given what he's done so far. In PPR he looks at worst to be a strong flex play at worst with a much higher ceiling.
loose circuits
Footballguy
have you watched Cadet play? He has no burst compared to Lewis, none. There is a reason New Orleans didn't even offer him a RFA deal- not even the min...
Chaka
Footballguy
Blount may get 15-20 touches this week but I don't think he starts to see most of those touches until the Pats have a commanding lead. I just don't think the Pats have the "bring in the hammer" mentality with a 3-14 point lead in the 2nd, 3rd or early 4th quarter. And I don't think the goal is to use him to get the lead either considering he isn't exceptionally versatile. His presence in the backfield is more limiting to their playbook than their other options.
If they're up by 14+ points then I think Blount will get more of the workload, until then I just think Dion will be on the field more.
If they're up by 14+ points then I think Blount will get more of the workload, until then I just think Dion will be on the field more.
Gopher State
Footballguy
In my ten team non ppr redraft league he is sitting on waivers, thinking about dropping Martin but I been burned so many times by NE running backs, it's hard to push the button
loose circuits
Footballguy
i wouldnt go that far. Martin is more of a sure thing
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Depends what you need. If you need a guy you're sure will be a solid, playable RB 2/3, Martin is a lot less likely to get his usage jerked around.
If Lewis turns out to be the feature back (especially if he continues to get goal-line carries, which I think he can succeed with despite his size) and that offense continues on a similar pace all year he could be a borderline RB1 and league-winner. I don't see that upside for Martin in Tampa. Especially in PPR.
loose circuits
Footballguy
he said non-PPR, Lewis doesn't have near as much value in those imo
Tau837
Footballguy
pats3in4 said:
Agree Lewis looks like a much better runner than any RB the Pats have had in years, probably since Dillon. He also seems to be as good or better as a receiver than Faulk/Woodhead/Vereen. That was a very impressive long completion down the sideline in the Bills game. Most RBs can't make that play.
I expect Lewis to lead the team in rushing attempts and have 75+ receptions. He should end up with at least 1400 YFS this season if he stays healthy. He probably won't get a lot of TDs, but that is still good enough to be a top 20 RB, maybe flirting with top 10 in PPR.
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