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Went to food and wine yesterday. Was really, really disappointed. Japan had California rolls :rolleyes: , Australia ha shrimp on the barbie and basically every stop had a variation of Americanized chain food. I know this is another profit maker for Disney so they have to move product, but I was under the impression you would get to sample some foods you don't often see here. There was very little of that.
Should have stuck with the drinks and beer.They were pretty tasty.Just got back on Sunday...few highlights-my son finally riding Soarin and Rock n Roller Coaster. He is 8 and has never wanted to try soarin...now he loves it. My 4 year old daughter rode it and loved it as well. We ended up taking a day off Thursday and doing the pool at the resort and downtown disney before the Halloween party...and they party only took the party tickets and not our normal tickets...so we had an extra day left on our tickets. Decided to use it Saturday morning for a few hours before leaving for home. Gave the kids the choice and they both said they wanted to ride soarin again...so we hit Epcot that morning. -pictures from rock n roller coaster...wish I would have put them on the photopass...first was me and my niece in the front row...tongues out rocking out at the start was a cool picture. Then riding with my son...him gripping the handles in sheer terror and about crying. Halfway through the ride he was yelling how awesome it was.-Halloween party...tons of candy and a great picture of my son and in in costume (skeletons) on the Buzz ride. Disappointed with how long the lines were for every character...but that just meant nice short lines for rides that night. Got on about anything we wanted without waiting more than 10 minutes.-Halloween Parade and Fireworks...very cool parade. The headless horseman was cool and the guys slamming and scraping the shovels. The fireworks were amazing. Rather than the normal show that is mostly behind the castle...there were a few times (including a ridiculous finale) when it was a panoramic sky of fireworks. 6 or so wide across the sky and extremely bright. Amazing. And was very impressive even from a few miles away on our hotel patio. Nice watching both Epcot and MK fireworks from there.-New Fantasyland...while closed, they did a preview on Friday...not sure if it was the first day of doing the "dress rehearsal"...but we got to go back and see up to the gates of the new castle and restaurant and ride the little mermaid ride. Ride is like Nemo in the clam shell...and kind of a slow show like pooh/peter pan type ride. Daughter loved it...and the architecture of the structure and some interactive things in the line were cool.-Boma...very good food...and the Animal Kingdome lodge is very cool.-Crystal Palace...still one of my favorite buffets...the sliced flank steak was tasty...and the pumpkin bread pudding...yum.-Decent Pizza in Italy for lunch one day...then dinner at Japan...it was just ok. That was followed by a few German Beers while catching the Boyz II Men show...pretty cool and my kids found it fun to dance.-Agent P interactive game...my 8 year old loved it. This replaced the Kim Possible thing around the World Showcase.A few thumbs down...-Express Monorail was down several days...made the Ferry very crowded and took so long to get to MK every time...made us miss the opening which sucked as we love that.-Got stuck on one of the "beds" that was having issues at TS Mania...really not a fun ride when you can't "play the game" as ours were just moving along the thing (sometimes). Yeah, they pulled that one off and let us ride again...and Im sure if we complained they would have done more...but kind of threw a wrench into some other plans for the day...though, none of their fault. Just a minor complaint because it was annoying.-People are morons...yeah, we all know this...but so many inconsiderate people that don't watch out for people with strollers...and some people with strollers who think they own the place pushing those double things.-Holy crap there are a lot of fat people at Disney...yeah buddy, chow down another Turkey Leg as you waddle around.-Yeah, they are working on it...but just sucked on our timing with Test Track down...as its another big ride my daughter is tall enough for and she really wanted to ride. Though, she was happy with Splash Mountain, Thunder Mountain and Soarin.
 
Trying to read through all of these pages by the end of the month because I'm going to book our vacation for the end of next April. Trying to digest all the great info in here, but I do have some questions for the masses. My daughter will only be two, but my son will be five by the time next April is here. I have some questions on where to eat and where to stay. We want to stay on the grounds.

1.) Where are the top three places to stay?

2.) Top three places to eat where there are characters?

I figure I need to get reservations as soon as possible.

Thanks...

 
I would definitely recommend Cape May Cafe and Chef Mickey's for character breakfasts, with the edge going to Cape May. I thought the food was slightly better at Cape May and the characters were around more. Cape May is located at the Beach Club.We couldn't get into Ohana this time either and our travel agent booked us for Kona Cafe at Polynesian in its place. We ended up loving it. Coral Reef Restaurant at Epcot was excellent and probably our favorite place we had dinner. They sat us right next to the aquarium (it's connected to the Nemo Ride and main Epcot aquariums) and the kids were mesmerized the whole time. Where are you staying?
We did the character breakfast at Cape May Cafe last trip and it was pretty good.I've heard about early park admission if you do breakfast at certain places, is that true?Or do you also have to be staying on property?Did they change the 6 month rule on when you can make reservations?We're exacly 6 months out on the trip now but looks like system is down for maintenance.Any tips for getting on and booking reservations at sought after places like Ohana?Which other places would we have to book this early?We're probably going to do the same thing we did last trip and rent a house.We'll have 6 adults and 4 kids so its nice to have a big place with a pool to relax in.
My understanding for the extended hours is that you have to be staying on property to take advantage of that.The 6 month rule is still in effect for reservations. Our travel agent made all our meal reservations, so I don't really have any tips other than keep checking. I know Chef Mickey's is very popular for breakfast. T-Rex (Downtown Disney)is definitely necessary to get reservations for. Sci-Fi Diner (Hollywood Studios) is pretty popular. It's neat, but the food was probably the worst meal we had. The counter service meals were better.
 
Looking like I got the green light for a 3/2 stay the second week of December. Never been this time of year but I hear the Christmas stuff is up and because it's not the back half of the month they have semi-reasonable Florida Resident deals.

 
Trying to read through all of these pages by the end of the month because I'm going to book our vacation for the end of next April. Trying to digest all the great info in here, but I do have some questions for the masses. My daughter will only be two, but my son will be five by the time next April is here. I have some questions on where to eat and where to stay. We want to stay on the grounds.1.) Where are the top three places to stay?2.) Top three places to eat where there are characters?I figure I need to get reservations as soon as possible.Thanks...
1) Largely depends on your budget and if you plan on hitting anything besides WDW during your stay.2) Crystal Palace in Magic Kingdom usually has the Pooh Corner gang: Pooh, Tigger, Eeyore, Piglet, and sometimes a couple others like Chip & Dale. I like breakfast the Tusker House in Animal Kingdom to see Donald, Mickey, Goofy, and Daisy in safari gear. Cape May at the Beach Club resort is nice and usually a little quieter than the restaurants in the parks, and you catch Mickey/Minnie/Donald/Daisy/Goofy in beach gear. If your kids are into Disney Junior characters like Handy Manny or the Little Einsteins, breakfast or lunch at Hollywood & Vine at Hollywood Studios is where to meet them. If you want a character meal that doesn't feel cramped with 200 other tourists right on top of you, Garden Grill at Epcot has a character meal with Mickey, Pluto, and Chip & Dale in farmer gear. It's a revolving restaurant inside the building with Soarin'. When we ate there last December, we sat in a booth facing out, had a changing view, and really didn't notice any other diners.Given the ages of the kids, you can probably skip character meals with the princesses. The good news here is Cinderella's Royal Table inside the castle at Magic Kingdom is one of the toughest reservations to get in WDW. There's also a princess meal in the Germany section of Epcot, and at the Grand Floridian resort. Chef Mickey's at the Contemporary resort gets mentioned often in this category, but I've found it to be a zoo with reservations rarely running on time. In April it might be a different story, since you will be after the peak of spring break travel, too early for summer, and of course not near the holidays. For character meals, yes, you will want to do reservations as soon as possible. Standard lead time for WDW dining reservations is 180 days. WDW Resort guests get a 10+ day head start on the general public. IIRC, once your hotel room is booked, you will be able to book dining reservations for your entire trip 190 days before your arrival day at the hotel. The restaurants that tend to fill the fastest are Le Cellier (great steakhouse in Canada section of Epcot), dinner at Ohana (probably my favorite restaurant in North America - search username "Yankee23Fan" on "Ohana" for a proper review), and meals with visits from the princesses at the Royal Table and 1900.
 
Went to food and wine yesterday. Was really, really disappointed. Japan had California rolls :rolleyes: , Australia ha shrimp on the barbie and basically every stop had a variation of Americanized chain food. I know this is another profit maker for Disney so they have to move product, but I was under the impression you would get to sample some foods you don't often see here. There was very little of that.
Australia- Shrimp on the Barbie with Pepper Berry Citrus Glaze Grilled Lamb Chop with Mint Pesto and Potato Crunchies LamingtonJapan- Spicy Hand Roll (Tuna & Salmon with Chili Pepper, Soy Sauce & Sesame Oil Topped with Kazan Volcano Sauce) Karaage Hand Roll (Crispy Chicken Breast with Sushi Rice and Spicy Mayonnaise) California Roll (Avocado, Cucumber, Crab, Mayonnaise, Smelt Roe Rolled in Sushi Rice and Seaweed) Sukiyaki Beef Pan (Marinated Thinly Sliced Rib Eye with Sauteed Onions and Teriyaki Sauce Served in a Bun)There are about 22 more menus just like that. If you couldn't find some good food I suspect you didn't really want to.
 
Got the trip booked and have our dinner reservations set for Mrs BB2K3 surprise 40th trip. Still looking for possible events/tours that I should book

Staying at the Wilderness Lodge (Club level)

Arrive Thursday @ 12:30 - The only thing we have booked for Thursday is the Mickeys Very Merry Christmas Party

Friday - Holidays Around the World - Candlelight with the Tokyo Dinner Package at Epcot

Saturday - Chef's Menu @ Cora nation Room - Kouzzina by Cat Cora

Sunday - Flying Fish Cafe Chef's Tasting Wine Dinner

Monday - we leave

 
By the way, if you have kids that are interested in the character thing, it's INSANE not to do a character meal or two. The lines in the park to visit the characters are generally pretty darn long. So, instead of wasting hours (cumulatively) in the park waiting in lines to see characters for 30 seconds, book a meal and knock out 4-5 characters in an hour while you eat. Then you can spend your time in the parks actually doing fun stuff.

We did a character breakfast at Crystal Palace (Pooh and the gang) and the princess dinner at Akershus. Food was good at the breakfast, sucked (IMO) at Akershus (as some people have mentioned before in this thread). But, even though the food stunk, it was totally worth it to knock out seeing all those princesses without waiting.

 
Trying to read through all of these pages by the end of the month because I'm going to book our vacation for the end of next April. Trying to digest all the great info in here, but I do have some questions for the masses. My daughter will only be two, but my son will be five by the time next April is here. I have some questions on where to eat and where to stay. We want to stay on the grounds.1.) Where are the top three places to stay?2.) Top three places to eat where there are characters?I figure I need to get reservations as soon as possible.Thanks...
Everything Bruce said was great, but I will add1) With kids that age, staying at a monorail hotel would save you a lot of time and it would add a lot of convenience. It is a lot more than value and more than moderate. All of the monorail hotels have multiple places to eat and like Bruce said, Ohana is at Polynesean, Chef Mickeys is at Contemporary and Garden Grille (I think thats it) is at Grand Floridian. That is where the Cinderella character dinner is (the one not at the castle) if you are on a tight budget, the value resorts are great. Think of any hotel chain and then just add Disney to it. The rooms are nice enough. There are no restaurants other then the college style dining halls, but its OK for quick bites to eat. You will need to take buses everywhere if you dont plan on driving. The buses can get crowded but you usually dont have to wait long for another one.I stayed at the Carribean Beach moderate and hated it. It was too big, the busses didnt come nearly as fast as the value and for the money, I would have rather stayed at value. But that is just one of the many. I know some people love Fort Wilderness. 2)Bruce left off the Hoop Dee Doo Revue. I have heard great things about it and unfortunately will not be able to go next week when we are there because they are closed. It all depends on what characters they like. The food and atmosphere are similar in all of them. I also love the Tusker House breakfast at Animal Kingdom. Great food and my kids love dancing around with the characters. Chef Mickeys can be a zoo but the kids like it. Have fun
 
Trying to read through all of these pages by the end of the month because I'm going to book our vacation for the end of next April. Trying to digest all the great info in here, but I do have some questions for the masses. My daughter will only be two, but my son will be five by the time next April is here. I have some questions on where to eat and where to stay. We want to stay on the grounds.1.) Where are the top three places to stay?2.) Top three places to eat where there are characters?I figure I need to get reservations as soon as possible.Thanks...
1. Top Places to stay.Depends on your budget and how you enjoy a vacation. I am of the opinion that the hotel room really doesn't mean that much because you want to spend as much time as you can out of the room doing stuff. Every hotel has fun stuff for the kids to do, so it's not like one is better than the other in that sense. Of course, the higher end places have more higher end stuff. If you want to go easy on the cost of the room itself, I would look at Pop Century. It's one of the value resorts. All Stars is the other value, but All Stars is the place where large groups stay, so to me it's a lot more hectic there than Pop. Of the other resorts, if you are looking to spend money, you can't beat the Polynesian or Old Key West (OKW is our favorite). One idea you may want to look into is what park you thing you will spend the most time in - with kids that young, it's probably going to be MK - so look for the resorts that are closer so you cut down on travel time. Of course, the best way to do that is stay at one of the monorail hotels (polynesian again) so that you can get in and out fairly easily.2. Top 3 character mealsReally, in all honesty, they are all good. Chef Mickey's in the Contemporary is a common staple for most people. The Garden Grill in the Land at Epcot is solid as well. Crystal Palace at MK is Pooh and his friends. Of course, the character meals are also usually more expensive then other places. They have also changed the character meal setup in recent years. It used to be that the characters walked around almost all the time and you saw them a lot. Now it's more timed and controlled and you lose some of the feel. We don't do character meals that much any more because there are other options for characters. The good part about character meals is that you get to see them in a controlled setting when you are doing something else so in that you aren't losing time doing something while standing in line. But they have also made that a little better too.In EPCOT there is a character spot where they are there all day for pictures. you can knock out Mickey, Minney, Donald, Goofy and usually Chip and Dale in about an hour depending on the line. Overall though, with kids that young, you need to schedule down time and not load up the schedule with stuff from down to dusk. The kids will be miserable because there is just so much to do. When our son was that young we would have a day where nothing was scheduled at all and we went with the flow. If you can give me an idea of budget, likes, wants, needs, etc, I can put together a pretty decent itineray to work off of (in fact I think I did that in here somewhere at some point for someone.)
 
Here's one of them....

If you want meal reservations you really need to do them weeks, even months in advance. Having said that, if you are willing to eat a little off peak time, you can usually get a table in just about any place there in less then an hour. We walked into the new place in the Italy pavilion without a reservation around 4:45 and sat down in 5 minutes. We also walked into The Garden Grill in The Land at Epcot around 4:45ish and sat within a few minutes. We did both of these after calling the central reservation number to make a reservation and being told that nothing was available. Truth be told, they leave space in just about every place for walk ins.If your questions are more along the lines of, what days are better for what parks, I can't help you there. We go so much that we know we are going back, so we never really rush around anywhere. The Food and Wine Festival started in Epcot over the weekend and that made the World Pavilion and little crazy, but overall, the parks weren't that crowded. Don't know what next week will bring. We didn't wait more then 20 minutes for any ride or show the entire week.Don't know your family makeup, but use and abuse the extra magic hours if you are staying on site. They are great for hitting the big time attractions with little wait. A good tip for those is not to start going to the rides immediately after they close the park to everyone else - because everyone does that. Sit back and get a snack, then make your way to big stuff. The lines will be gone and you can walk on to everything.Fast pass is a great tool, but understand that you are planning an hour or so ahead of yourself, and you can only do one ride at a time with it. Frankly, we don't use them due to the fact that we go alot. And they aren't always necessary. A good rule of thumb on most rides is if the wait time is 20 minutes or less, you are only talking about standing in line for no more then 5 minutes. Anything 30 minutes or over and you will likely stand there for a good 20. If there is a line at 40 or over, that's a fast pass or wait until later ride. Even the best rides there aren't worth standing in those lines.If it's hot the rides and spots where there is water will be packed. If you can stand the heat, go to the other stuff. If it rains, and if you can stand getting wet, keep playing. Most people run for cover leaving a lot of stuff open to do.Doing Animal Kingdom in the morning is ok. If you want to do the jungle cruise, go to that first because it's packed all day. If it's the first thing you do, go to the spot where they start the line and wait for it, go there first and do it then. If it doesn't get too crowded, you can hit Kali River Rapids before it gets too bad. Everest is going to be packed regardless, so if you want to do it expect a line.Epcot, like I said, is in the middle of the Food and Wine Festival. No time saving tips except enjoy it. You can't beat it. If you want to see Illuminations from a good spot, find that spot a good hour before the show. Spaceship Earth was closed because the main sponsor changed and they are reprinting and painting everything in it. Don't know when it will be open. And they finally got rid of that stupid magic Mickey hand on Spaceship Earth.Magic Kingdom is always hit a miss. It's usually the first park people go to when they get there, so expect Monday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday to be the busiest by default. It's decorated for Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party, which looks fun if you are into that. They close the park for only those people that buy the pass for the party and you dress up and the kids get to Trick or Treat in the stores and some rides are open. It looked fun but we didn't do it. Again, if hot, expect Splash Mountain to be packed.MGM and Downtown Disney are a lot of fun for targeted audiences. They are always relatively busy. It seems to me that the lines in MGM are always longer because the actual physical size of the buildings and rope mazes are just smaller, but it might just be me.If you want good food tips, my favorite place by far is Ohana in the Polynesian Resort. Best food in the place. Honey corriander wings are money - I must have eaten several dozen by myself. They bring around skewers full of steak, pork, chicken and sausage and just load your plate up. It's all you can eat family style so one price for each. The dessert is a bread pudding covered with vanilla ice cream and a Banana's Foster Carmel glaze. Save room for it if you can. This place is always packed.The Liberty Tree Tavern in Magic Kingdom is another favorite of mine. Simple good American food - family style buffet. Turkey, mashed potatoes, mac and cheese and stuffing with an awesome sweet butter on homemade bread. IT's also a character place, so Minny, Mickey, Goofy and Chip and Dale walk around and take pictures and play with the kids.If you do a date night with the Mrs., Downtown Disney has a lot of good places. We are partial to the House of Blues - but there are many other places. Disney Quest - the interactive building with all the video games and make your own digital games - is a separate price, but if you are into that stuff it is worth it.Overall, my best advice is this - if you are planning on going again, don't kill yourself to do "everything." You won't be able to anyway, and you will stress yourself out instead of enjoying the place. If this is a one time hit - know what you like. The main rides and attractions might not be what you are into. If you don't like Roller Coasters, but love stage shows (for example) don't kill yourself to get on the Rockin' Rollercoaster when you get hit the Lights Camera Action Show. If you are into the World Showcase and want to do a day at the Food and Wine Festival, do it, and don't worry about Soarin and Test Track. ( Soarin will always be packed - so if it's a must do for you, and you see a line 30 minutes or under, do it).I guess that's my general overview. Are you looking at anything specific?
 
Here's a longer one....

Ok guru - So, this is your first time and you won't be back any time soon. Initially, you really should stay in the park. There are other housing possibilities outside the Disney grounds, but the experience of staying the park is second to none. With three kids, you have your first choice - spend money on the room or save money on the room because the kids aren't going to care about the differences.Value resorts may be your best bet given the kids. With three young ones you want kid stuff available and you don't want to be in an atmosphere that they don't consider kid friendly. Pop Century is the better value resort there, and there is also the All Star resorts. I find that Pop Century has the better atmosphere for a young one - my son is 5 and has stayed there a bunch of times and loves it. There are several pools to use, some fun hidden stuff like a water splash fountain near the 50's building, and of course the statues of the big Rubik's Cube, bowling pins, Mickey Phone, etc. Just a very kid friendly atmosphere. Also, in the rooms, the wait staff will notice that you have kids and at least one during your stay they will decorate the room window(s) with their toys and washcloth/towel animals. My son loves that kind of stuff.The food there is decent, and better then most of the mid sized places. The bus system is a one stop trip and is closest to Downtown and Epcot. The ride to the Magic Kingdom is a little long, so there may be some impatience but it's not so long that you forgot what you were planning on doing once you get there. The biggest drag, though, is that the Pop bus stops at the parks are always the farthest from the door so the walk at the end of the day sucks. You get used to it, but the kids never do. And three year old will have to be carried several times on the long nights.If you want a nicer room there are obviously a ton of choices. I would suggest though that the room isn't the reason you go there and you can spend your money in a better fashion then getting the room that is $200 a night as opposed to Pop which usually runs in the $50-$85 range (I think, depending on deal).Next, your usual itinerary. Since this is the first time, there are certain things you are going to want to do. But, since you have young ones, there will be things you can't do. I'm going to assume a week trip. 7 days on site. First, plan one of those days to do nothing. Nothing at all. You may end up doing something and that's fine, but don't get reservations or plan a certain thing that day. Make it a go with the flow day - kids can do the pool at the hotel the whole day or whatnot, or you can go to a park. Your call. But having that flexible day with young ones is important.You obviously need to budget most of your time for Magic Kingdom. Generally, plan about 2 full days there. You will want to make sure you hit:1. Small World - all kids.2. Pirates - 3 year old might not like it - dark and there is a small drop of about 7 feet in the water ride. If the 3 year old won't go, one of you can take him to the Camel ride which is near.3. Haunted house - not scary at all but dark. If 3 year old can't do it, there are a lot of things to do in the near vicinity while the others go on.4. Transportation Ticket Authority. A very slow ride through Tomorrowland. All kids should like it. It's a calm down ride. It's just fun enough to not be boring, and you can take a breather while on it.5. Indy cars. Obviously, the 12 year old will love this. 6. Splash Mountain. The biggest drop here is 50 feet so probably not good for the 3 year old. There is a shooting galary close by if not.7. Big Thunder Mountain - fast. But it is a roller coaster.8. Space Mountain - dark and fast, there is an arcade right next to it for anyone that doesn't want to go on.9. Buzz Lightyear - everyone should love.10. Pooh Bear ride. All kids.There are of course other rides, but these are the top ones to make sure you get. Don't try for Dumbo. It always has the longest lines. The flying carpets by the camel are the same ride and the line is always half the size.Then there are the shows. There are 2 that you can't miss. The first is Mickey's Philharmagic. 3-D show with Donald getting a hold of Mickey's Fantasia Sorcerer's hat. The seat in front of you sprays water and air on you during the show. 3 year old might not like it but mine did. The other is Tiki Room. Birds signing. Tiki polls too. Very funny. All should like although there is one dark moment that the 3 year old might balk at.Hidden tip - there is a cool down spot at town hall. There is a small movie theatre type room always playing cartoons, it's air conditioned, and it's a good rest point to take a break. Characters will be right in the front of Main Street for pictures so you won't have to search too far. Finally, Mickey's Toon Town Fair - all young kids usually love it. The rides are simple and fun for the kids. Mickey and Minnie are always at their houses for pictures, and inside the big tent building there are usually either Mickey friends for pictures or the princesses.You aren't going to get to do everything that Magic Kingdom has to offer ride and attraction wise, so don't bother. You will make it a job more then a vaction. The kids will dictate how it goes. If they aren't ready to do anymore rides, see one of the shows, or walk around and do pictures. You can always jump on the train and take a round trip around the park for a fun ride/rest thing. If you are getting parkhopper passes so that you can go between the parks each day (I recommend them) you might want to consider a monorail ride to Epcot, or even to one of the monorail hotels to walk around and see them.EPCOTThe 12 year old will love it here. The must do's you know: Spaceship Earth/Soarin/Mission Space/Nemo Adventure/ Test Track. The lines will be long at all places so plan accordingly.But there are other things to do there that most people miss. The Imaginarium is fun (although it was better 20 years ago) and Figment is still there. The Furutre World aspect of the park also has a lot of places right there that are inside quiet attractions. There is a thing there teaching kids about home fire safety, waste management, etc. They can be fun depending on your kids.Treat Future World as separate from the World Showcase. They are 2 parks in 1 - think of them that way. I would say plan 2 days here as well, but that is because of my love for the World Showcase. You might not need a whole day just there and could therefore blow out EPCOT in a day. All the big rides are in Future World so you will be there a lot. For a quiet sit down a relax ride there is Livin With the Land in the Land Pavilion. Slow boat ride through farm type scenes and then through the aquafarm and fisheries of the Disney scientists. It could very well take you the whole day to do just the Future World stuff. Your 3 year old can't go on Mission Space and TEst Track might be too much as well. Spaceship Earth can be dark, but it's slow and not very scary. Nemo is a blast, but the big shark from the movie is there, so be warned.If you are going to focus time on the World Showcase, then you are in for a treat, as are the kids. Canada has some cool stuff to see, but no ride. England doesn't have a ride either, but there is a toy store. Of course, there are kidcot centers in every country where they can draw a mask and get stamps in their passports (get the passports for them. I've never seen a kid not love those things). After England you take a walk over a brdige to France. Get your wife to take the kids to the bakery while you go talk to the French women in the stores. Pretend your buying something for her.While your on that side of the park, food, treats and whatnot abound. Each country has something fun and different. All have stores. All have some form of food. Most have alcohol and other drinks. The rides are in Norway (boat ride with a small 25 foot drop backwards that your 3 year old might hate) Mexico (slow boat ride while watching a 3 Caballeros movie (donald and his bird friends) which is very fun, and there is the Great American Adventure movie in the America pavaillion. Great show. Very very very loud.If that kind of thing isn't your cup of tea then you can do the whole showcase in 2 hours and be done. Or you could lost there. StudiosThere is a ton to do here and again, you won't get to do it all. Just about ever ride there is a must do for most people - Aerosmith Rockin Rollar Coaster, Tower of Terror, Star Tours, Indiana Jones show, and on and on. All the rides for the most part are loud, fast and fun. There are smaller kid oriented things as well, but we find that if your young one doesn't love loud noises and fast moving things that they won't love this park that much - but the 12 year old will love it. You may end up spending that extra day you didn't use at EPCOT here. Basically, between the two its what the kids like.Animal KingdomIf your kids love animals you'll be here for a full day. There is a small kid ride area that they all should like and there are older kid stuff like Everest, Kali River Rapids and the Jungle Safari. If they don't like animals this park can get boring quickly.Water parks - you will be going to them if you go in the summer. They are water parks, so nothing special to report. I would consider going to them in the afteroon if you aren't doing a full day because they are usually more crowded in the morning.Downtown Disney - a very small kiddie area ride area is here, but besides that it's shopping. The lego store is cool though, as is the biggest Mickey store on the planet. You will have to spend at least 1/2 a day here because you're married. But it's fun.Eating - your choices are so numerous it's hard to pinpoint anything. Each hotel has a place to eat and the parks have tons of them. Some suggestions.Get a least 2 or 3 character meals if you can. There are many many choices. Crystal Palace in MK is Pooh and friends. Chef Mickey's in the Contemporary Hotel is buffet style with Mickey and his friends (Minnie, Donald, Goofy, Pluto). Goofy's Liberty Tree Tavern is very good American food family style (all you can eat at your table, tureky, ham, roast beef, mac and cheese, mashed potatoes, etc) Goofy, Minnie and Chip and Dale are there.The castle has the princesses there but it is nearly impossble to get in and it's really not for boys.At Epcot, the Land has a sit down place that is family style with Chip and Dale, Mickey, Minnie and Pluto. The aquarium has a sit down place where you can sit by the glass tank and see the fish, but no characters. The Polynisian hotel has a character breakfast buffet and the best diner you will find on the planet. Seriously - get dinner reservations there and thank me later.MGM has a few character places as well that are buffet style.You don't HAVE to have reservations all the time, but almost all of the time you do. They leave space for walk in's and they try to never turn anyone away.As you can see - you will not get everything in. Don't try. Just enjoy yourself. A rough plan might be something like this...... Let's assume you stay at Pop Century.Day 1. Check in in the morning. Get the kids acquianted with the hotel in the morning. Have lunch. Hit MK in the afternoon - it will be cooler and less crowded. Go down Mainstreet to Tomorrowland and hit the Indycars, TTA and Pooh Bear Rides. If there isn't a long long ride, you can also hit the Buzz ride. If you have a diner reservation for, say, the Crystal Palace, make your way over there, around the back of the park and hit Small World or Peter Pan. Have your meal. Afterwards, go over to Frontierland and check out the lines for Pirates, Flying Carpets, and that area. Once it starts pushing the 7:00pm time you are going to want to start finding a spot for the parade and fireworks - if you are doing them. Just about anywhere works, although I recommend some place on Main Street facing the castle for the best view of the fireworks. You can save seats while groups of you go through the stores there and get snacks. The place across from the Liberty Tree has awesome ice cream cookie sandwiches. The fireworks are over late, so you make your way out and back for a good first day.++++ If there are extra magic hours anywhere, that is the best time to go to those parks and hit the most popular rides. Plan with and around them if you can ++++Day two you will probably want to wake up early and get breakfast at Pop. Hope the bus to MGM and spend the day there. Maybe a character lunch. The fireworks and laser show there starts late as well. Mickey battles all the Disney bad guys so be warned with the 3 year old. Of course, if a whole day out is too much, I suggest going back to your room around 2 or 3, and letting the kids hit the pool until dinner time when you can either stay at Pop or go somewhere else for the meal and night time fun.Day 3 - hit EPCOT. If half day, then half day and take the monorail over the MK for the rest of the day. If full day, get dinner reservations at Italy or Japan or Mexico. Day 4 - rest day. Dont' plan or reserve anything and let the chips fall.Day 5 - MK again. Do the stuff you missed on day 1/2. IF you do a 1/2 day here and then the rest of the day at Animal Kindgom that's a full day.Day 6 - water park. If whole day you're set, if half day, go back to your room around 2ish. I would suggest this is the good day for dinner at the Polynesian at Ohana. Honey Corriander wings, teryaki dumplings, steak, chicken, pork, sausage, potatoes, shrimp, and bread pudding covered with ice cream and Banana's Foster Carmel sauce. Seriously. Don't miss this meal.Day 7 - last day. Depending on your departure, hit the park you had the most fun at. Do one or two things. Enjoy yourself. It's the last day.Don't be afraid to spend time at the hotel instead of standing in line for an hour to do Pirates. If you go in knowing you won't get everything done you will enjoy it more. And make sure that you and your wife pick sometehing that you want to do. It's your vacation too. It is almost impossible for the kids to not have fun there, but it can become hard with one kid - I can't imagine 3.Some helpful tips - Get a double stroller if you don't have one to bring. You will be amazed at how much the 8 year old sleeps or rests in the thing with the 3 year old - and it holds a lot of stuff. Also, since you are staying at the park when you buy something have it sent to your room. Less to carry. Think about getting a photo guide for a day. It isn't cheap but you can get all your pictures done by someone else for a day. If you don't do that - use and abuse Photopass. We've had hundreds of pictures taken with those things. You can't beat them.With 7 days, 21 meals, reserve about 10-14 meals. But know that you won't hit them all. The kids are going to act up, be too tired or not want to go. Give yourself that many choices knowing you won't get them all in. And don't forget to take in all the little extra stuff all over the place that a lot of people miss. Pictures at great spots. Little snack stands with something a little different. A face painting stand for the kids. A character here and there that aren't in the wide open. Explore. Have fun. Take the whole place in, not just the rides that have 45 minute lines.And don't forget that the hotels have things to do as well. Check out the boardwalk and those places. Take the boat ride from MK to Wilderness Lodge just for fun, or the boat ride from MGM to Downtown. Whatever. Do that stuff. It's a blast.If you need specific info let me know. Good luck.
 
Went to food and wine yesterday. Was really, really disappointed. Japan had California rolls :rolleyes: , Australia ha shrimp on the barbie and basically every stop had a variation of Americanized chain food. I know this is another profit maker for Disney so they have to move product, but I was under the impression you would get to sample some foods you don't often see here. There was very little of that.
Australia- Shrimp on the Barbie with Pepper Berry Citrus Glaze Grilled Lamb Chop with Mint Pesto and Potato Crunchies LamingtonJapan- Spicy Hand Roll (Tuna & Salmon with Chili Pepper, Soy Sauce & Sesame Oil Topped with Kazan Volcano Sauce) Karaage Hand Roll (Crispy Chicken Breast with Sushi Rice and Spicy Mayonnaise) California Roll (Avocado, Cucumber, Crab, Mayonnaise, Smelt Roe Rolled in Sushi Rice and Seaweed) Sukiyaki Beef Pan (Marinated Thinly Sliced Rib Eye with Sauteed Onions and Teriyaki Sauce Served in a Bun)There are about 22 more menus just like that. If you couldn't find some good food I suspect you didn't really want to.
You consider a bunch of sushi rolls really all that different than what you can get at the Japanese place up the street? ......ok. We didn't have a terrible time or anything, and there was some good stuff, was just surprised at how unoriginal a lot of the stations were.
 
I'm pretty sure this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's a daunting task to go back and search everything...

We will be staying at a house off-site December 16-23. We have dinner reservations for 'Ohana on Tuesday and Thursday. Can we park at the Polynesian and take the monorail to Magic Kingdom those days?

 
I'm pretty sure this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's a daunting task to go back and search everything...We will be staying at a house off-site December 16-23. We have dinner reservations for 'Ohana on Tuesday and Thursday. Can we park at the Polynesian and take the monorail to Magic Kingdom those days?
Historically, yes. The security check at the Polynesian will have a list of that day's meal reservations, and will clear you to park since you will be on it.That time of year, it's possible there might be some gnashing of teeth if you show up at Polynesian in the morning for a dinner meal reservation, but you won't be the first or last person wanting to go to Magic Kingdom for the day, eat dinner at the Polynesian, and not want to move your car more than necessary.
 
Here are some random Disney Food Pics. I wish I would have remembered to take pictures of everything but I got quite a few. These are from 2 different trips.
:lmao: Is Ohana a brazilian steakhouse or something?
Or something?!?!? You dare categorize the great O'hana as just a throw away eatery that you can find at any little town that serves food that even commoners would eat? No, sir, O'hana is much, much more. Let's set the scene:Initially you get there for your reservation. Immediately the great great smell of steak, chicken, pork and sausage hits you from the open grill int he center of the dining room. You are treated to the opportunity for top shelf alcoholic beverages as you sit by the internal waterfall in the hotel and relax. There is usually some form of musical entertainment going on to help you enjoy the moment. But then - the great moment - you are called to your seat.

You sit down and need not order. Oh no. Your order is already set. You get your drinks topped off and ready, and then you see what comes to you from heaven.

Pork fried dumplings

Honey Corriander chicken wings

Mixed Greens with Honey-Lime dressing.

And chips to dip in three dipping sauces - a peanut sauce that literally spilled from God's right hand, a chimichurri and a sweet and sour. OF course, all of these is all you can eat for the entirty of your stay there. And that's just the beginning.

Skewers (prepared over an oak fire): Marinated sirloin steak, Asian BBQ pork loin, Mesquite grilled turkey, and non-peeled shrimp. This is what hits you next. All you can eat. Dozens of servers are there to help you enjoy these wonderful wonderful presents from above. Hopefully you aren't full because there is more...

Broccoli and green peas and pad Thai noodles help to complete the table.

Eat up fine sir. Eat up. You will never have a better meal. But wait.... What's this? There is still dessert? I couldn't. I've eaten a few chickens and cows here but man oh man what do I see coming towards me? Bread pudding a la mode with Banana Foster sauce. Get that did you? Bread pudding - the best you've ever had, topped with vanilla ice cream and banana's foster sauce. This is stuff that is too sexy for Cinemax here folks.

It's not just a meal. It's basically a revolution of food. You will never enjoy another meal as much as you used to after this. You will crave, you will want, you will desire. Just one more honey corriander wing, just a few more dips of the peanut sauce... just one more just one more...........
bumping this just because I like to read it a couple times a year.
 
Here are some random Disney Food Pics. I wish I would have remembered to take pictures of everything but I got quite a few. These are from 2 different trips.
:lmao: Is Ohana a brazilian steakhouse or something?
Or something?!?!? You dare categorize the great O'hana as just a throw away eatery that you can find at any little town that serves food that even commoners would eat? No, sir, O'hana is much, much more. Let's set the scene:Initially you get there for your reservation. Immediately the great great smell of steak, chicken, pork and sausage hits you from the open grill int he center of the dining room. You are treated to the opportunity for top shelf alcoholic beverages as you sit by the internal waterfall in the hotel and relax. There is usually some form of musical entertainment going on to help you enjoy the moment. But then - the great moment - you are called to your seat.

You sit down and need not order. Oh no. Your order is already set. You get your drinks topped off and ready, and then you see what comes to you from heaven.

Pork fried dumplings

Honey Corriander chicken wings

Mixed Greens with Honey-Lime dressing.

And chips to dip in three dipping sauces - a peanut sauce that literally spilled from God's right hand, a chimichurri and a sweet and sour. OF course, all of these is all you can eat for the entirty of your stay there. And that's just the beginning.

Skewers (prepared over an oak fire): Marinated sirloin steak, Asian BBQ pork loin, Mesquite grilled turkey, and non-peeled shrimp. This is what hits you next. All you can eat. Dozens of servers are there to help you enjoy these wonderful wonderful presents from above. Hopefully you aren't full because there is more...

Broccoli and green peas and pad Thai noodles help to complete the table.

Eat up fine sir. Eat up. You will never have a better meal. But wait.... What's this? There is still dessert? I couldn't. I've eaten a few chickens and cows here but man oh man what do I see coming towards me? Bread pudding a la mode with Banana Foster sauce. Get that did you? Bread pudding - the best you've ever had, topped with vanilla ice cream and banana's foster sauce. This is stuff that is too sexy for Cinemax here folks.

It's not just a meal. It's basically a revolution of food. You will never enjoy another meal as much as you used to after this. You will crave, you will want, you will desire. Just one more honey corriander wing, just a few more dips of the peanut sauce... just one more just one more...........
bumping this just because I like to read it a couple times a year.
'Ohana

Disney's Polynesian Resort

Confirmation Number: 4212412XXXXX

Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Time: 6:40 p.m.

Party Size: 4 Guests

View Details | Cancel Reservation

To modify call (407) 939-3463

'Ohana

Disney's Polynesian Resort

Confirmation Number: 4212412XXXXX

Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012

Time: 6:25 p.m.

Party Size: 4 Guests

View Details | Cancel Reservation

To modify call (407) 939-3463
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I'm pretty sure this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's a daunting task to go back and search everything...We will be staying at a house off-site December 16-23. We have dinner reservations for 'Ohana on Tuesday and Thursday. Can we park at the Polynesian and take the monorail to Magic Kingdom those days?
Historically, yes. The security check at the Polynesian will have a list of that day's meal reservations, and will clear you to park since you will be on it.That time of year, it's possible there might be some gnashing of teeth if you show up at Polynesian in the morning for a dinner meal reservation, but you won't be the first or last person wanting to go to Magic Kingdom for the day, eat dinner at the Polynesian, and not want to move your car more than necessary.
When I arrived at the Polynesian a few weeks ago I just had to tell them I had a reservation, showed them my ID, and they let me through. They didn't check anything as far as I could tell. We did arrive in the evening, however.
 
'Ohana

Disney's Polynesian Resort

Confirmation Number: 4212412XXXXX

Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Time: 6:40 p.m.

Party Size: 4 Guests

View Details | Cancel Reservation

To modify call (407) 939-3463

'Ohana

Disney's Polynesian Resort

Confirmation Number: 4212412XXXXX

Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012

Time: 6:25 p.m.

Party Size: 4 Guests

View Details | Cancel Reservation

To modify call (407) 939-3463
:pickle:
My link
 
I park my car at the Polynesian every single time I go to MK, and have never had a food reservation there. They always check the list, then let us through.

 
I'm pretty sure this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's a daunting task to go back and search everything...

We will be staying at a house off-site December 16-23. We have dinner reservations for 'Ohana on Tuesday and Thursday. Can we park at the Polynesian and take the monorail to Magic Kingdom those days?
Historically, yes. The security check at the Polynesian will have a list of that day's meal reservations, and will clear you to park since you will be on it.That time of year, it's possible there might be some gnashing of teeth if you show up at Polynesian in the morning for a dinner meal reservation, but you won't be the first or last person wanting to go to Magic Kingdom for the day, eat dinner at the Polynesian, and not want to move your car more than necessary.
Ok, thanks. We have young kids, so we'll be probably taking a break in the middle of the day. We may just park there on the return trip in the afternoon.I have a few other questions about the schedule hopefully someone can help me with. I thought I knew how the Extra Magic Hours worked from our visit 2 years ago, but looking at the first schedule listed I'm confused. Page 4, week of 12/16-12/23

First, is there a high likelihood that this schedule will change before December?

Wednesday and Saturday show Magic Kingdom is open 9am-10pm but doesn't list it as Extra Magic Hours. Is the extended day open to non-WDW guests? Also, Animal Kingdom shows extra magic hours for Monday and Wednesday morning, but the hours are listed as the same every day. Does it open at 8 for WDW guests on those days? or is 9 for WDW guests and 10 for off-site guests?

 
'OhanaDisney's Polynesian ResortConfirmation Number: 4212412XXXXXDate: Tuesday, October 30, 2012Time: 6:40 p.m.Party Size: 4 GuestsView Details | Cancel ReservationTo modify call (407) 939-3463'OhanaDisney's Polynesian ResortConfirmation Number: 4212412XXXXXDate: Saturday, November 3, 2012Time: 6:25 p.m.Party Size: 4 GuestsView Details | Cancel ReservationTo modify call (407) 939-3463
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I'll be down there at the same time, but the best I could do at 'Ohana is an 810PM reservation for Monday night. With 2 'lil ones, it's unlikely that we'll want to wait that late, so I'll probably be cancelling this reservation.
 
'OhanaDisney's Polynesian ResortConfirmation Number: 4212412XXXXXDate: Tuesday, October 30, 2012Time: 6:40 p.m.Party Size: 4 GuestsView Details | Cancel ReservationTo modify call (407) 939-3463'OhanaDisney's Polynesian ResortConfirmation Number: 4212412XXXXXDate: Saturday, November 3, 2012Time: 6:25 p.m.Party Size: 4 GuestsView Details | Cancel ReservationTo modify call (407) 939-3463
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I'll be down there at the same time, but the best I could do at 'Ohana is an 810PM reservation for Monday night. With 2 'lil ones, it's unlikely that we'll want to wait that late, so I'll probably be cancelling this reservation.
I can't commit to this til we get there next week but there is a slight chance I cancel the Saturday one. Would you be interested?
 
When I arrived at the Polynesian a few weeks ago I just had to tell them I had a reservation, showed them my ID, and they let me through. They didn't check anything as far as I could tell. We did arrive in the evening, however.
I park my car at the Polynesian every single time I go to MK, and have never had a food reservation there. They always check the list, then let us through.
:goodposting: :goodposting: Crowdsourcing at work. :thumbup: My frame of reference (Christmas evening and breakfast on 12/26) might have been unique because of the time of year. Or, the security folks convinced me they were checking a list when they were just making themselves look busy. Thanks to up-to-date info posted here... looks like parking at Polynesian in the morning when you have a dinner reservation at Ohana carries little risk, will speed up your entry into MK, and removes one car-moving task from the day. Definitely the way to go. :thumbup:
 
It's definitely the way to go. No walking through that massive lot, and you hop right onto a monorail that has no line.

Little tricks. :hifive:

 
'Dragons said:
First, is there a high likelihood that this schedule will change before December?
Very low likelihood. When I was there last December, the park opening times and Extra Magic Hours all held from when we first started researching it in the spring. If park hours change, it will be to keep the park open a hour or two later. SSometimes this is audibled: chatting with an AK cast member while waiting for a character greeting, the cast member said if the turnstile counts the first couple hours of the day are way above projections, the park closing time will push back an hour or two, and any cast member looking to make a few extra bucks gets called in to accommodate the larger crowds. So the showtimes and parade times won't change or get added, but the rides and restaurants will stay open a bit later. However, at AK I think the safari has to shut down early because it's not safe to run it after dark.

The only other risk on park entry is if the park gets jammed and you are staying off-property. Last year between Xmas and New Years, there was a day or two when MK got so crowded, only people who could show they were staying at WDW resorts were allowed into MK. People staying off-property got shut out for a couple hours.

Wednesday and Saturday show Magic Kingdom is open 9am-10pm but doesn't list it as Extra Magic Hours. Is the extended day open to non-WDW guests?
IIRC, the listed 7pm closing time means Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party breaks out in the evening. It's a separate admission fee. The Electrical Light Parade and fireworks will still happen, but only for Party guests. Note if you do spring for MVMXP, they will let you in the park at 5:00 or maybe even earlier. The party stuff starts at 7:00.The listed 10pm closing time means the 7-10pm time - Electrical Light Parade and fireworks - are open for everyone, resort guests and off-property intruders.

The Extra Magic Hours on 12/17 means the Magic Kingdom will be open until 10pm for everyone, and from 10pm-1am for resort guests. After 10pm, the off-property folks will be allowed to stay in the park and buy stuff, but won't be allowed to board any rides. Cast members will check park tickets at the ride queue entries to deny off-property parkgoers.

That 1am closing time is magical if the kids are old enough to handle the late finish and can bounce back the next day. MK might rerun the parade during late night, but I'm not sure about that.

Also, Animal Kingdom shows extra magic hours for Monday and Wednesday morning, but the hours are listed as the same every day. Does it open at 8 for WDW guests on those days? or is 9 for WDW guests and 10 for off-site guests
Extra Magic Hours AM is usually one hour before general opening. So if the calendar says open at 9:00, the EMH is from 8-9. The cast members will start rolling people through the turnstiles before 8:00, and set up ropes within the park to keep people out of the ride queues. If you see someone here use the term "rope drop", they mean being inside the park at the official opening time, when the ropes are removed and the attractions open.

At Animal Kingdom, I recommend the safari ride during EMH. The animals are either being fed or just ate, and the weather isn't too hot yet. It's usually your best chance to catch the animals moving around. If oyu have a big enough group to send a runner to get Everest FastPasses and meet the rest of the group at the safari ride, all the better.

At Epcot, keep in mind the World Showcase doesn't open early. The EMH is just for Future World. Expect a bumrush for Soarin' and Test Track FastPasses. (Random thought: I recall hearing a rumor that Test Track was going to close for a few months to rebrand the ride as a "future of automotive technology" and de-emphasize the crash test dummies. Did that happen?)

At Hollywood Studios, the bumrush is all about Toy Story Mania. Either join the fray to get TSM FPs, or peel off to the right and enjoy a leisurely stroll towards the Aerosmith roller coaster and Tower of Terror. You should be able to hit up both of those before the general public gets it.

 
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'Premier said:
It's definitely the way to go. No walking through that massive lot, and you hop right onto a monorail that has no line. Little tricks. :hifive:
For TOAL we stayed on-property and had a car. We took the car everywhere EXCEPT Magic Kingdom. That's when we took the shuttle bus to bypass the TTC cluster####. Bypassing TTC has to shave off 30-60 minutes going in, and at 20-30 going out.
 
I totally did not understand the Toy Story fascination. I mean, it was a cool ride, and the whole family enjoyed it, but the rush over there in the morning was insane. In the time it took me to wait in line to get fast passes, the fast pass return time changed by an hour or more. It was sold out of fast passes fairly quickly in the morning, and the stand by wait was an hour+ in the afternoon.

I guess it has to do with the fairly low amount of kid rides at Hollywood Studios.

 
I totally did not understand the Toy Story fascination. I mean, it was a cool ride, and the whole family enjoyed it, but the rush over there in the morning was insane. In the time it took me to wait in line to get fast passes, the fast pass return time changed by an hour or more. It was sold out of fast passes fairly quickly in the morning, and the stand by wait was an hour+ in the afternoon.I guess it has to do with the fairly low amount of kid rides at Hollywood Studios.
That. It's new. It's a fairly long ride. It's very popular characters. And the lines are self fulfilling prophecies. People are told that fills up fast so get their first, so they do that, and fills up fast, so people are told to get their first. Missions Space and Star Wars when it was rebuilt were the same way. Also, given the length of the ride and the amount of people it can hold at one time, it just moves the line slow. IT will get back to normal at some point.
 
'Dragons said:
First, is there a high likelihood that this schedule will change before December?
Very low likelihood. When I was there last December, the park opening times and Extra Magic Hours all held from when we first started researching it in the spring. If park hours change, it will be to keep the park open a hour or two later. SSometimes this is audibled: chatting with an AK cast member while waiting for a character greeting, the cast member said if the turnstile counts the first couple hours of the day are way above projections, the park closing time will push back an hour or two, and any cast member looking to make a few extra bucks gets called in to accommodate the larger crowds. So the showtimes and parade times won't change or get added, but the rides and restaurants will stay open a bit later. However, at AK I think the safari has to shut down early because it's not safe to run it after dark.

The only other risk on park entry is if the park gets jammed and you are staying off-property. Last year between Xmas and New Years, there was a day or two when MK got so crowded, only people who could show they were staying at WDW resorts were allowed into MK. People staying off-property got shut out for a couple hours.

Wednesday and Saturday show Magic Kingdom is open 9am-10pm but doesn't list it as Extra Magic Hours. Is the extended day open to non-WDW guests?
IIRC, the listed 7pm closing time means Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party breaks out in the evening. It's a separate admission fee. The Electrical Light Parade and fireworks will still happen, but only for Party guests. Note if you do spring for MVMXP, they will let you in the park at 5:00 or maybe even earlier. The party stuff starts at 7:00.The listed 10pm closing time means the 7-10pm time - Electrical Light Parade and fireworks - are open for everyone, resort guests and off-property intruders.

The Extra Magic Hours on 12/17 means the Magic Kingdom will be open until 10pm for everyone, and from 10pm-1am for resort guests. After 10pm, the off-property folks will be allowed to stay in the park and buy stuff, but won't be allowed to board any rides. Cast members will check park tickets at the ride queue entries to deny off-property parkgoers.

That 1am closing time is magical if the kids are old enough to handle the late finish and can bounce back the next day. MK might rerun the parade during late night, but I'm not sure about that.

Also, Animal Kingdom shows extra magic hours for Monday and Wednesday morning, but the hours are listed as the same every day. Does it open at 8 for WDW guests on those days? or is 9 for WDW guests and 10 for off-site guests
Extra Magic Hours AM is usually one hour before general opening. So if the calendar says open at 9:00, the EMH is from 8-9. The cast members will start rolling people through the turnstiles before 8:00, and set up ropes within the park to keep people out of the ride queues. If you see someone here use the term "rope drop", they mean being inside the park at the official opening time, when the ropes are removed and the attractions open.

At Animal Kingdom, I recommend the safari ride during EMH. The animals are either being fed or just ate, and the weather isn't too hot yet. It's usually your best chance to catch the animals moving around. If oyu have a big enough group to send a runner to get Everest FastPasses and meet the rest of the group at the safari ride, all the better.

At Epcot, keep in mind the World Showcase doesn't open early. The EMH is just for Future World. Expect a bumrush for Soarin' and Test Track FastPasses. (Random thought: I recall hearing a rumor that Test Track was going to close for a few months to rebrand the ride as a "future of automotive technology" and de-emphasize the crash test dummies. Did that happen?)

At Hollywood Studios, the bumrush is all about Toy Story Mania. Either join the fray to get TSM FPs, or peel off to the right and enjoy a leisurely stroll towards the Aerosmith roller coaster and Tower of Terror. You should be able to hit up both of those before the general public gets it.
Ah, got it. The park hours listed are for the general public and the EMH is additional to that. The difference in Tuesday (closing at 7) and Monday (closing at 10) led me to believe that Monday included the EMH. Glad to see I was wrong.At the time of our trip, we'll have an almost 2 and a 3 1/2 year old, so there's no way we can take advantage of a very late night. We are staying off-site, so we can't take advantage of EMH anyway. I'm thinking of trying to get them to stay up Saturday to see the light parade and fireworks, but chances are they will be in bed by then. We'll probably go to MK on Tuesday (the day after an EMH) to hopefully get less crowds. Although, I don't think we'll see severe crowds until maybe Friday and almost definitely Saturday, as this is a full week before Christmas.

For Animal Kingdom, is it worth going at 9 on a day with early morning EMH? Crowds will be larger overall, I'm assuming, but we won't be caught up in the entry rush. Does Animal Kingdom do an opening ceremony like MK and Hollywood Studios? I'll probably run for Everest fast passes first (I did that last time), although the kids will be too small to ride.

 
I totally did not understand the Toy Story fascination. I mean, it was a cool ride, and the whole family enjoyed it, but the rush over there in the morning was insane. In the time it took me to wait in line to get fast passes, the fast pass return time changed by an hour or more. It was sold out of fast passes fairly quickly in the morning, and the stand by wait was an hour+ in the afternoon.I guess it has to do with the fairly low amount of kid rides at Hollywood Studios.
Yep. Low amount of kid rides at DHS, relatively new attraction, Pixar-themed, making sure the kids get to do it, all point to the bumrush. And as Y23F said, lines at WDW have a self-fulfilling prophecy to them. My last Disney experience was at Disneyland and Disney California Adventure. After walking right on to TSM at DCA, we tried to remember why it was such a big deal at DHS. I think home technology made up a lot of the gap since TSM opened. The Toy Story Mania video game for the Wii comes with 3D glasses, and you can play some/all of the games in 3D that are pretty much just like the ride. It's still fun, but not "build the day around it" fun. It's IMO a next generation version of the Buzz Lightyear shooting ride in Tomorrowland.
 
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the feedback. A few more questions.

1.) Do we need to use a travel agent? My wife suggested it since this is our first time to go?

2.) Has anyone stayed at the Arts of Animation? I've heard that was nice for kiddos.

 
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the feedback. A few more questions.1.) Do we need to use a travel agent? My wife suggested it since this is our first time to go?2.) Has anyone stayed at the Arts of Animation? I've heard that was nice for kiddos.
You dont need an agent. Look in this thread and some of the main disney boards and you will do fine. Arts of Animation is the new section of Pop Century. Its not complete yet but they are opining it in stages. Its supposed to be very nice.
 
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the feedback. A few more questions.1.) Do we need to use a travel agent? My wife suggested it since this is our first time to go?2.) Has anyone stayed at the Arts of Animation? I've heard that was nice for kiddos.
You dont need an agent. Look in this thread and some of the main disney boards and you will do fine. Arts of Animation is the new section of Pop Century. Its not complete yet but they are opining it in stages. Its supposed to be very nice.
That's what i thought. She was saying they might know of better packages than what we could find on our own.
 
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the feedback. A few more questions.1.) Do we need to use a travel agent? My wife suggested it since this is our first time to go?2.) Has anyone stayed at the Arts of Animation? I've heard that was nice for kiddos.
You dont need an agent. Look in this thread and some of the main disney boards and you will do fine. Arts of Animation is the new section of Pop Century. Its not complete yet but they are opining it in stages. Its supposed to be very nice.
That's what i thought. She was saying they might know of better packages than what we could find on our own.
Possible. There are agents that do it by commission through disney so you don't actually pay them. There are also agents that specialize just on WDW. The one time we used one it was ok but they screwed up our flight.
 
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the feedback. A few more questions.1.) Do we need to use a travel agent? My wife suggested it since this is our first time to go?2.) Has anyone stayed at the Arts of Animation? I've heard that was nice for kiddos.
You dont need an agent. Look in this thread and some of the main disney boards and you will do fine. Arts of Animation is the new section of Pop Century. Its not complete yet but they are opining it in stages. Its supposed to be very nice.
It is fully or at least mostly open. We stayed there at the end of September.
 
'Frank Drebin said:
Test Track was closed when we were there last month. I can't remember when they said it would re-open.
December 6th. I like that they're building on the design concepts featured in The Sum of All Thrills.
When Test Track reopens, this reengineered attraction will allow guests to experience the fun world of automotive design firsthand. Guests will first enter a Design Studio and make a series of selections (as an individual or a group) to create their ideal virtual custom concept vehicle. They then board a six-passenger SimCar for a test drive to see how their own design compares to the attraction’s SimCar in Capability, Efficiency, Responsiveness and Power.

And it sounds like the post-show will be just as much fun. Here, guests can see how well their car performed, and race it over changing terrains and extreme conditions on a digital driving table. Guests can also produce and star in a TV commercial for their custom cars, explore a Chevrolet showroom that will feature the latest models, and more.
 
I totally did not understand the Toy Story fascination. I mean, it was a cool ride, and the whole family enjoyed it, but the rush over there in the morning was insane. In the time it took me to wait in line to get fast passes, the fast pass return time changed by an hour or more. It was sold out of fast passes fairly quickly in the morning, and the stand by wait was an hour+ in the afternoon.I guess it has to do with the fairly low amount of kid rides at Hollywood Studios.
I think your last line is a huge part of it.For kids that are under height limits for R&R and/or too scared of that and Tower of Terror...what is there other than the very small kids stuff (Disney Junior, Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast) other than some other shows that may or may not scare them or freak them out with fire and explosions (Indiana Jones and Stunt Show).Take my daughter (4 years old)...she loved TS mania...can finally ride and enjoy Star Tours...and thats about it there for her. She was pretty freaked out by Indiana Jones (mostly the noise of the gun shots and such). Even my 8 year old son...we had to about bribe him to finally ride R&R. Thankfully he rode it and loved it...and he loves Star Tours.But the characters and TS are huge for that younger group because its not a huge park.
 
'Yankee23Fan said:
'Grady Wilson said:
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the feedback. A few more questions.1.) Do we need to use a travel agent? My wife suggested it since this is our first time to go?2.) Has anyone stayed at the Arts of Animation? I've heard that was nice for kiddos.
You dont need an agent. Look in this thread and some of the main disney boards and you will do fine. Arts of Animation is the new section of Pop Century. Its not complete yet but they are opining it in stages. Its supposed to be very nice.
Friends we met up with at the Halloween Party were staying there and said they liked it pretty well.
 
'Yankee23Fan said:
'Grady Wilson said:
'Yankee23Fan said:
'Grady Wilson said:
Thanks everyone. I appreciate the feedback. A few more questions.1.) Do we need to use a travel agent? My wife suggested it since this is our first time to go?2.) Has anyone stayed at the Arts of Animation? I've heard that was nice for kiddos.
You dont need an agent. Look in this thread and some of the main disney boards and you will do fine. Arts of Animation is the new section of Pop Century. Its not complete yet but they are opining it in stages. Its supposed to be very nice.
That's what i thought. She was saying they might know of better packages than what we could find on our own.
Possible. There are agents that do it by commission through disney so you don't actually pay them. There are also agents that specialize just on WDW. The one time we used one it was ok but they screwed up our flight.
We've used one of the Disney commissioned agents the last 2 times we've gone and been very happy. A couple nice things about using them...1. They will automatically credit you with any discounts that come available AFTER you book your trip. So if you book and then they add free dining later, then you get that discount added to your trip.2. They handle all the booking for dinner reservations. We booked within the 6 month window so a lot of the meals we wanted were already booked. They managed to get us every one we wanted except Ohana...and that was only because we didn't want to do dinner at 915pm with our 3 and 10 year old boys.We didn't fly so I can't speak to the booking of flights.
 
Pretty sure I wont be making my Tuesday Ohana reservation due to Hurricane Sandy. I am now hoping I can get out Wednesday. I could lose 2 days of my trip

:wall:

 
Staying at contemporary this weekend. Looking for Sunday breakfast...the Wave or Konu? Anybody have breakfast reviews for either?

 
My family is booked for the second weekend of December. We tried something new, we rented vacation club points are we are staying at the Animal Kingdom with a Savannah view. I'll report back, but I think we got a good value. Two weekend nights for $150. The Disney Resident discount price at the value resorts was $109.

 
Pretty sure I wont be making my Tuesday Ohana reservation due to Hurricane Sandy. I am now hoping I can get out Wednesday. I could lose 2 days of my trip :wall:
Just finished. It was excellent. Not sure if it was as good as that Yabkee post, but excellent Staying at the Polynesean has been worth the money so far. We are about to watch wall e on the beach. It was crazy getting here but it's better than being in NY right now. Last I heard, my house was going to be without power for 10 days.
 
Cancelled whispering canyon for tonight. Was able to get the be our guest restaurant for 6:30. Mt daughter will like that better. Looks like no all you can drink shakes for me.

The new section is nice. Glad we rode mermaid ride last night at Halloween party because it was not open to public today.

 
Staying at contemporary this weekend. Looking for Sunday breakfast...the Wave or Konu? Anybody have breakfast reviews for either?
Was there a couple weeks back and ate dinner at The Wave twice. Food was excellent. And if they can't #### up dinner how bad could the breakfast be?
 

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