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Displace 200+ targets w/ loss of Berrian and Muhammad (1 Viewer)

the turnip said:
Lose your top two wideouts and starting RB, but keep your awful QB?Who benefits? That would be the rest of the NFC North.Seriously, have the Bears secretly hired Matt Millen?
Top two wideouts.....like either of them have ever.....ever had 1,000 yard receiving for the bears.Starting RB....that never had 1000 yards rushing and was a bust.And lost Griese...who hasn't done anything since denver.Sounds like a team that knows when to cut dead weight to me.
2002 was the last 1000 yd WR for the Bears. Looks like they can't assemble offensive talent to me. :thumbdown:
 
the turnip said:
Lose your top two wideouts and starting RB, but keep your awful QB?Who benefits? That would be the rest of the NFC North.Seriously, have the Bears secretly hired Matt Millen?
Top two wideouts.....like either of them have ever.....ever had 1,000 yard receiving for the bears.Starting RB....that never had 1000 yards rushing and was a bust.And lost Griese...who hasn't done anything since denver.Sounds like a team that knows when to cut dead weight to me.
2002 was the last 1000 yd WR for the Bears. Looks like they can't assemble offensive talent to me. :unsure:
They haven't developed a consistant passing game...like ever. But they do run the football effectively. Two OROY in Salaam and Anthony Thomas, perhaps Forte could be the next one.But it all starts and ends with that offensive line getting better.
 
So, from what I've seen in this thread thus far:

Hester is a better WR than Berrian

Hester will succeed as a WR if given a few yards of open space

Hester will be good because the coaches want him to be a #1 WR

Hester has the "IT" factor and is an athlete, so he'll be a good WR1

I'm reminded of another great return man who never panned out at WR. His name? Dante Hall. Hall played with a better QB on a better team and also had the "IT" factor. How many WR1s are out there with a few yards of open space? Is Hester even close to any of their talent level?

There is a reason Hester wasn't a top WR coming into the league.

But for those on the bandwagon, please continue on! I'll use his ADP to secure real talent once he is gone.
Big difference is that Dante Hall was never a starting WR. He was mostly used in 3+ WR sets and gadget plays. There is a real chance that Hester is a starting WR (#1 or #2). I'm reminded of another great return man who DID pan out at WR. His name is Steve Smith. And while Smith is an elite talented WR today, one of the "routes" he runs best is catching an immediate screen pass and letting him do the work. No reason it can't work for Hester either.

Not saying Hester = Smith by any stretch and the chances of that happening or considerably lower than him busting. But to write him off before he's had the opportunity is a bit premature in my book. I doubt many people predicted what Smith would be able to do after starting in the league primarily as a PR/KR.
Hester will not be a full time WR either. He is too involved in the return game and he cant block worth a crap. Hall actually did start 6/16 games as a WR for KC in 2004.
Says who? You? The Bear's coaching staff? So far from what I've read, it seems he WILL be a full-time WR. The question of whether or not he will continue PR/KR duties has already come up. That doesn't sound like something a part-time WR does. For those saying he can't block and can't run routes, have you guys been at Bear's practices? Or are you speaking from the past before he spent considerably more time working at being a WR? Is it not possible for him to improve on some of these things? Again, we've seen a good # of PR/KR guys try their hand at WR and fail and that's fresh on most people's minds. But, for the most part, those guys remain as PR/KR and add in some WR. From all accounts that I've read, Hester is not just going to try it out like last year but is actually slated to be a starting WR unless 2 of these guys pass him up. And, apparently, he's worked a considerable amount on how to be a WR and reports are that he's done very well. Yes, yes, I know, it's May/June, it's early, yada yada, but by the same token it's too early to dismiss the fact that he could indeed have improved and may be the Bear's starting WR on day 1.

What I don't get is that there seems to be 2 camps of people. Those who think it's POSSIBLE that he can do something and those that think it's NOT POSSIBLE. Just because myself and others are saying he COULD do it doesn't mean I think he WILL do it. I think the chances of him being a legit fantasy producer aren't very good, but I think it's POSSIBLE. Some of you others have completely written off that possibility as non-existent before the guy has ever even had a chance at the starting role. Not a big deal as in the end we'll probably be talking about a bye-week fill-in at best, but I just find it interesting how some people see a guy like Dante Hall and immediately compare Hester to him while ignoring a similar situation in Steve Smith and say it's not possible.
Subsitute the words likely and unlikely for the words possible and not possible and this post makes more sense. Anything is possible. Possible doesn't do you any good in FF.
 
I would put my money on Booker being their guy. He looks like that typical old WR that the fantasy community thinks is toast, but in reality he's just been a #2 on bad offenses for a while. He's a vet and can get the job done still, he's definitely more consistent than the rest of the lot, most experience. The only other guy with #1 potential is Bradley, but injuries look to be interfering once again with this guy

 
Hester is the real sleeper. I have it on good authority that the Bears have a whole new offense that involves Rex Grossman kicking the ball to Hester.

 
Hester is the real sleeper. I have it on good authority that the Bears have a whole new offense that involves Rex Grossman kicking the ball to Hester.
:moneybag: I was thinking Hester could line up in the backfield and take direct snaps that are, ofcourse, fumbled through the hands of Grossman first. :excited:
 
I like the chances for Bennet, both short term and long term. He seems to be one of the most NFL ready of the rookie receivers and there is a wide open chance to start in Chicago.

There should be plenty of looks for the WR's, Chicago passed 569 times in 2007, surprisingly 10th highest in the league.

 
I like the chances for Bennet, both short term and long term. He seems to be one of the most NFL ready of the rookie receivers and there is a wide open chance to start in Chicago. There should be plenty of looks for the WR's, Chicago passed 569 times in 2007, surprisingly 10th highest in the league.
With an actual running game this season it's entirely possible they'll run the ball a lot less.
 
Booker will end up with the most targets, making him the best value. I can see him leading the team in rec's, yards, and second in TD's

 
So, from what I've seen in this thread thus far:

Hester is a better WR than Berrian

Hester will succeed as a WR if given a few yards of open space

Hester will be good because the coaches want him to be a #1 WR

Hester has the "IT" factor and is an athlete, so he'll be a good WR1

I'm reminded of another great return man who never panned out at WR. His name? Dante Hall. Hall played with a better QB on a better team and also had the "IT" factor. How many WR1s are out there with a few yards of open space? Is Hester even close to any of their talent level?

There is a reason Hester wasn't a top WR coming into the league.

But for those on the bandwagon, please continue on! I'll use his ADP to secure real talent once he is gone.
Big difference is that Dante Hall was never a starting WR. He was mostly used in 3+ WR sets and gadget plays. There is a real chance that Hester is a starting WR (#1 or #2). I'm reminded of another great return man who DID pan out at WR. His name is Steve Smith. And while Smith is an elite talented WR today, one of the "routes" he runs best is catching an immediate screen pass and letting him do the work. No reason it can't work for Hester either.

Not saying Hester = Smith by any stretch and the chances of that happening or considerably lower than him busting. But to write him off before he's had the opportunity is a bit premature in my book. I doubt many people predicted what Smith would be able to do after starting in the league primarily as a PR/KR.
Hester will not be a full time WR either. He is too involved in the return game and he cant block worth a crap. Hall actually did start 6/16 games as a WR for KC in 2004.
Says who? You? The Bear's coaching staff? So far from what I've read, it seems he WILL be a full-time WR. The question of whether or not he will continue PR/KR duties has already come up. That doesn't sound like something a part-time WR does. For those saying he can't block and can't run routes, have you guys been at Bear's practices? Or are you speaking from the past before he spent considerably more time working at being a WR? Is it not possible for him to improve on some of these things? Again, we've seen a good # of PR/KR guys try their hand at WR and fail and that's fresh on most people's minds. But, for the most part, those guys remain as PR/KR and add in some WR. From all accounts that I've read, Hester is not just going to try it out like last year but is actually slated to be a starting WR unless 2 of these guys pass him up. And, apparently, he's worked a considerable amount on how to be a WR and reports are that he's done very well. Yes, yes, I know, it's May/June, it's early, yada yada, but by the same token it's too early to dismiss the fact that he could indeed have improved and may be the Bear's starting WR on day 1.

What I don't get is that there seems to be 2 camps of people. Those who think it's POSSIBLE that he can do something and those that think it's NOT POSSIBLE. Just because myself and others are saying he COULD do it doesn't mean I think he WILL do it. I think the chances of him being a legit fantasy producer aren't very good, but I think it's POSSIBLE. Some of you others have completely written off that possibility as non-existent before the guy has ever even had a chance at the starting role. Not a big deal as in the end we'll probably be talking about a bye-week fill-in at best, but I just find it interesting how some people see a guy like Dante Hall and immediately compare Hester to him while ignoring a similar situation in Steve Smith and say it's not possible.
Subsitute the words likely and unlikely for the words possible and not possible and this post makes more sense. Anything is possible. Possible doesn't do you any good in FF.
Well stated. I freely concede that it is possible what gianmarco envisions is true. Not likely, which he concedes, but possible ...
 

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