Django Unchained -- new Tarantino film (1 Viewer)

[drummer]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here. That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

I saw it tonight and loved it. My wife also really liked it (whew).I didn't have a problem with the "n" word at all, or the violence, or QT's role, or really anything. I just sat back with my big 'ol popcorn and diet coke and was thoroughly entertained for almost three hours.Best 9 bucks I've spent in a long time.

I agree completely. I'll have to see it a few more times, but I'm pretty sure it's better than IB. Not better than PF or JB. On par with RD and KB I/II. Another great film to add to the QT canon.

 

[Joe Summer]

Tarantino will do for the N-word what the Gay Rights crowd did for "queer".

 

[drummer]

Tarantino will do for the N-word what the Gay Rights crowd did for "queer".

"We're here, we're N-Bomb" won't be very popular IMO.

 

[jdoggydogg]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here. That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

I don't know when this turned askew, but don't be so defensive. No one's out to get you.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Tarantino will do for the N-word what the Gay Rights crowd did for "queer".

 

[drummer]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here. That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

I don't know when this turned askew, but don't be so defensive. No one's out to get you.

First I get the sanctimonious "I got something to say to you but I won't because like it's something bad that like you won't like, like". Then I get the "Dude, don't be so paranoid" from some dawg who has a problem with the N-Bomb unless it's in a Tarantino script. Like how much leeway would Lee need? 218 N-Bombs in a 2 hour film?It's the Internet. I get it. I dunno if you two do. Tarantino in a radio interview said the reason why he used the N-Bomb so much was to put it out there so many times that it was vulgar. He even chuckled that the word was used so much then in that period that it wasn't a big deal then, so why the big deal now in his movie? Because nobody is repulsed by it after hearing it over 100 times in a movie. In fact, they start laughing when they hear it. But hey. it's Tarantino. We still quote Dennis Hopper in True Romance, quote "Dead N-Bomb Storage" (why that's in there I dunno, and why Tarantino cast himself to utter it I dunno either, because he really sucked at that delivery anyway), or when he used it in "Jackie Brown"...Aw hell, John Singleton should have used it 200 times in his revenge slopfest "Four Brothers". He's Black, and borrows from other movies as well. You guys alright? I hope I didn't stress you out here.

 

[Toad_1234]

Did anyone else feel like Tarantino was making fun of stupid black people and hip-hop culture?

It was obvious with the way they girl kept saying Yes,m Big Daddy that her and Sam Jackson were talking like the modern hip-hop culture. She spoke and acted just like a rap video girl.

Sam Jackson was hilarious and off-putting at the same time. I felt like the movie was saying slavery was awful, but man some of you black people in today's culture are total idiots. In a subtle way of course.

We wouldn't want Spike Lee getting his panties in a wad again over Tarantino and Tyler Perry being more successful filmmakers.

 

[Fennis]

Did anyone else feel like Tarantino was making fun of stupid black people and hip-hop culture?It was obvious with the way they girl kept saying Yes,m Big Daddy that her and Sam Jackson were talking like the modern hip-hop culture. She spoke and acted just like a rap video girl.Sam Jackson was hilarious and off-putting at the same time. I felt like the movie was saying slavery was awful, but man some of you black people in today's culture are total idiots. In a subtle way of course.We wouldn't want Spike Lee getting his panties in a wad again over Tarantino and Tyler Perry being more successful filmmakers.

No, I didnt get that at all. Not in the slightest.

 

[Toad_1234]

Did anyone else feel like Tarantino was making fun of stupid black people and hip-hop culture?It was obvious with the way they girl kept saying Yes,m Big Daddy that her and Sam Jackson were talking like the modern hip-hop culture. She spoke and acted just like a rap video girl.Sam Jackson was hilarious and off-putting at the same time. I felt like the movie was saying slavery was awful, but man some of you black people in today's culture are total idiots. In a subtle way of course.We wouldn't want Spike Lee getting his panties in a wad again over Tarantino and Tyler Perry being more successful filmmakers.

No, I didnt get that at all. Not in the slightest.

LOL. Could just be me. There was definitely behind their speech patterns though. I'll have to keep an eye out and see if Tarantino mentions it.

 

[jdoggydogg]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here. That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

I don't know when this turned askew, but don't be so defensive. No one's out to get you.

First I get the sanctimonious "I got something to say to you but I won't because like it's something bad that like you won't like, like". Then I get the "Dude, don't be so paranoid" from some dawg who has a problem with the N-Bomb unless it's in a Tarantino script. Like how much leeway would Lee need? 218 N-Bombs in a 2 hour film?It's the Internet. I get it. I dunno if you two do. Tarantino in a radio interview said the reason why he used the N-Bomb so much was to put it out there so many times that it was vulgar. He even chuckled that the word was used so much then in that period that it wasn't a big deal then, so why the big deal now in his movie? Because nobody is repulsed by it after hearing it over 100 times in a movie. In fact, they start laughing when they hear it. But hey. it's Tarantino. We still quote Dennis Hopper in True Romance, quote "Dead N-Bomb Storage" (why that's in there I dunno, and why Tarantino cast himself to utter it I dunno either, because he really sucked at that delivery anyway), or when he used it in "Jackie Brown"...Aw hell, John Singleton should have used it 200 times in his revenge slopfest "Four Brothers". He's Black, and borrows from other movies as well. You guys alright? I hope I didn't stress you out here.

Why would I be stressed out?

 

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Saw it last night with the GF and another couple. Loved it. Theater was about 70pct black folks and nobody seemed to be offended by the incessant N bombing. It fit the times. If anything I think the film portrays white southern Americans of the time as a bunch of ignorant abusive hillbillies and the black as good folks.

 

[JZilla]

Saw it last night with the GF and another couple. Loved it. Theater was about 70pct black folks and nobody seemed to be offended by the incessant N bombing. It fit the times. If anything I think the film portrays white southern Americans of the time as a bunch of ignorant abusive hillbillies and the black as good folks.

Of course it did. Funny how so many people seem to be trying to take this movie the wrong way.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Saw it last night with the GF and another couple. Loved it. Theater was about 70pct black folks and nobody seemed to be offended by the incessant N bombing. It fit the times. If anything I think the film portrays white southern Americans of the time as a bunch of ignorant abusive hillbillies and the black as good folks.

Of course it did. Funny how so many people seem to be trying to take this movie the wrong way.

lots of ignorant hillbillies up in here

 

[anakin]

Saw it last night with the GF and another couple. Loved it. Theater was about 70pct black folks and nobody seemed to be offended by the incessant N bombing. It fit the times. If anything I think the film portrays white southern Americans of the time as a bunch of ignorant abusive hillbillies and the black as good folks.

 

[Toad_1234]

Saw it last night with the GF and another couple. Loved it. Theater was about 70pct black folks and nobody seemed to be offended by the incessant N bombing. It fit the times. If anything I think the film portrays white southern Americans of the time as a bunch of ignorant abusive hillbillies and the black as good folks.

90% correct. You guys obviously didn't watch Django closely. No reason to drone on about it though and not really a problem. That was the crux of the film.

 

[JZilla]

Saw it last night with the GF and another couple. Loved it. Theater was about 70pct black folks and nobody seemed to be offended by the incessant N bombing. It fit the times. If anything I think the film portrays white southern Americans of the time as a bunch of ignorant abusive hillbillies and the black as good folks.

90% correct. You guys obviously didn't watch Django closely. No reason to drone on about it though and not really a problem. That was the crux of the film.

Well I watched it and as I suspected you are full of #### / baiting

That said, I didn't like it as much as Basterds. More in Kill Bill territory for me I guess, that is, standard QT fare. Basterds was top-notch for me. It would be hard to fully explain why I found this one too absurd but not Basterds, but chalk it up to the rationale behind some of the characters' decisions that drive the plot, particularly later in the film. It got too silly for me to say it's anything more than a pretty good flick.

 

[NCCommish]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here. That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

No it was meant to be a bit condescending and maybe a touch insulting. Did it succeed?

 

[fruity pebbles]

Loved it. Could have cut 20 minutes or so out of the 2nd half though imo, dragged a bit too long. The whole coming back scene was overdone.

 

[jdoggydogg]

The /Filmcast: Bonus Ep. – Django Unchained

 

[jdoggydogg]

Fantastic interview if you like Christoph Waltz:

'Unchained' Admiration Between Actor And Director

 

[jdoggydogg]

Someone mentioned (was it here or was it a critic?) that the KKK scene is almost straight out of Blazing Saddles, and that is a perfect comparison.

 

[jdoggydogg]

As usual, The Onion AV Club has some sharp comments regarding the Spike Lee boycott:

Spike Lee has a problem with Django Unchained, obviously

by Sean O'Neal

January 2, 2013

While most of us awoke to a 2013 in which we are all post-human creatures of pure light and lovely, ashen gray skin, indistinguishable within our silver jumpsuits, some people have had trouble letting go of old feuds. For instance, Spike Lee, whose tendency to see other directors as

 

[jdoggydogg]

Some interesting interviews

for fans of the film.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I was pretty disappointed with Django Unchained, seems like a big step backwards after Inglorious Basterds which I thought was fantastic. There wasn't near as much suspense in the dialogue heavy scenes as there was in other Tarantino films; I always had a pretty decent idea of what was going to happen next, which I don't usually in Tarantino's films.I also really didn't like how in the shooting scenes, Django would fire 6 bullets and hit 6 dudes, whereas the 6 dudes would fire dozens of bullets and miss Django with every shot. This wouldn't have been as big of an issue if more time was spent on how Django became an incredible sharpshooter; in Kill Bill Tarantino spends hours showing the audience how The Bride became a master swordsman, but in Django Unchained he spends 1 five minute scene showing how Django was an expert sharpshooter as soon as he fired his first shot, pretty lazy storytelling imo.I thought the music was also pretty ####ty for a Tarantino film. The varying genres caused me to be pulled out of the movie each time. It would have been better if there was more cohesion to the music to set a tone for the film imo. I still enjoyed watching the film, but I thought it was a pretty serious dropoff from Inglorious Basterds, and one of Tarantino's worst along with Death Proof. Tarantino really missed Sally Menke protecting himself from himself on this one.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I was pretty disappointed with Django Unchained, seems like a big step backwards after Inglorious Basterds which I thought was fantastic. There wasn't near as much suspense in the dialogue heavy scenes as there was in other Tarantino films; I always had a pretty decent idea of what was going to happen next, which I don't usually in Tarantino's films.I also really didn't like how in the shooting scenes, Django would fire 6 bullets and hit 6 dudes, whereas the 6 dudes would fire dozens of bullets and miss Django with every shot. This wouldn't have been as big of an issue if more time was spent on how Django became an incredible sharpshooter; in Kill Bill Tarantino spends hours showing the audience how The Bride became a master swordsman, but in Django Unchained he spends 1 five minute scene showing how Django was an expert sharpshooter as soon as he fired his first shot, pretty lazy storytelling imo.I thought the music was also pretty ####ty for a Tarantino film. The varying genres caused me to be pulled out of the movie each time. It would have been better if there was more cohesion to the music to set a tone for the film imo. I still enjoyed watching the film, but I thought it was a pretty serious dropoff from Inglorious Basterds, and one of Tarantino's worst along with Death Proof. Tarantino really missed Sally Menke protecting himself from himself on this one.

Interesting review, against the mostly positive reviews. Would you say that this film while perhaps not QT's best in your opinion but would it still be better than a lot of other films in this past year? How good or bad was it? Scale of zero to 5 stars, 2...3? Just curious if you are trying to measure it simply against QT's other work or all films currently. Thanks

 

[drummer]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here.

That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.

Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

I don't know when this turned askew, but don't be so defensive. No one's out to get you.

First I get the sanctimonious "I got something to say to you but I won't because like it's something bad that like you won't like, like".

Then I get the "Dude, don't be so paranoid" from some dawg who has a problem with the N-Bomb unless it's in a Tarantino script. Like how much leeway would Lee need? 218 N-Bombs in a 2 hour film?

It's the Internet. I get it. I dunno if you two do.

Tarantino in a radio interview said the reason why he used the N-Bomb so much was to put it out there so many times that it was vulgar. He even chuckled that the word was used so much then in that period that it wasn't a big deal then, so why the big deal now in his movie?

Because nobody is repulsed by it after hearing it over 100 times in a movie. In fact, they start laughing when they hear it.

But hey. it's Tarantino. We still quote Dennis Hopper in True Romance, quote "Dead N-Bomb Storage" (why that's in there I dunno, and why Tarantino cast himself to utter it I dunno either, because he really sucked at that delivery anyway), or when he used it in "Jackie Brown"...

Aw hell, John Singleton should have used it 200 times in his revenge slopfest "Four Brothers". He's Black, and borrows from other movies as well.

You guys alright? I hope I didn't stress you out here.

Why would I be stressed out?

Because Spike Lee is out to get you.

 

[GDogg]

I was pretty disappointed with Django Unchained, seems like a big step backwards after Inglorious Basterds which I thought was fantastic.

There wasn't near as much suspense in the dialogue heavy scenes as there was in other Tarantino films; I always had a pretty decent idea of what was going to happen next, which I don't usually in Tarantino's films.

I also really didn't like how in the shooting scenes, Django would fire 6 bullets and hit 6 dudes, whereas the 6 dudes would fire dozens of bullets and miss Django with every shot. This wouldn't have been as big of an issue if more time was spent on how Django became an incredible sharpshooter; in Kill Bill Tarantino spends hours showing the audience how The Bride became a master swordsman, but in Django Unchained he spends 1 five minute scene showing how Django was an expert sharpshooter as soon as he fired his first shot, pretty lazy storytelling imo.

I thought the music was also pretty ####ty for a Tarantino film. The varying genres caused me to be pulled out of the movie each time. It would have been better if there was more cohesion to the music to set a tone for the film imo.

I still enjoyed watching the film, but I thought it was a pretty serious dropoff from Inglorious Basterds, and one of Tarantino's worst along with Death Proof. Tarantino really missed Sally Menke protecting himself from himself on this one.

It's still lazy, but the dentist did say something along the lines of, "you're a natural."

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I was pretty disappointed with Django Unchained, seems like a big step backwards after Inglorious Basterds which I thought was fantastic. There wasn't near as much suspense in the dialogue heavy scenes as there was in other Tarantino films; I always had a pretty decent idea of what was going to happen next, which I don't usually in Tarantino's films.I also really didn't like how in the shooting scenes, Django would fire 6 bullets and hit 6 dudes, whereas the 6 dudes would fire dozens of bullets and miss Django with every shot. This wouldn't have been as big of an issue if more time was spent on how Django became an incredible sharpshooter; in Kill Bill Tarantino spends hours showing the audience how The Bride became a master swordsman, but in Django Unchained he spends 1 five minute scene showing how Django was an expert sharpshooter as soon as he fired his first shot, pretty lazy storytelling imo.I thought the music was also pretty ####ty for a Tarantino film. The varying genres caused me to be pulled out of the movie each time. It would have been better if there was more cohesion to the music to set a tone for the film imo. I still enjoyed watching the film, but I thought it was a pretty serious dropoff from Inglorious Basterds, and one of Tarantino's worst along with Death Proof. Tarantino really missed Sally Menke protecting himself from himself on this one.

Interesting review, against the mostly positive reviews. Would you say that this film while perhaps not QT's best in your opinion but would it still be better than a lot of other films in this past year? How good or bad was it? Scale of zero to 5 stars, 2...3? Just curious if you are trying to measure it simply against QT's other work or all films currently. Thanks

I'd rank it among Looper, Argo, and Lawless of films from this past year that were good but not great. Django Unchained probably had better acting performances relative to those other 3 films, but I thought their stories were more inspired.

 

[Porkchop Express]

Almost exactly as I feel about Inglorious Basterds, I think that this movie had some great individual scenes but the sum of the whole movie left me feeling disappointed.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I was pretty disappointed with Django Unchained, seems like a big step backwards after Inglorious Basterds which I thought was fantastic. There wasn't near as much suspense in the dialogue heavy scenes as there was in other Tarantino films; I always had a pretty decent idea of what was going to happen next, which I don't usually in Tarantino's films.I also really didn't like how in the shooting scenes, Django would fire 6 bullets and hit 6 dudes, whereas the 6 dudes would fire dozens of bullets and miss Django with every shot. This wouldn't have been as big of an issue if more time was spent on how Django became an incredible sharpshooter; in Kill Bill Tarantino spends hours showing the audience how The Bride became a master swordsman, but in Django Unchained he spends 1 five minute scene showing how Django was an expert sharpshooter as soon as he fired his first shot, pretty lazy storytelling imo.I thought the music was also pretty ####ty for a Tarantino film. The varying genres caused me to be pulled out of the movie each time. It would have been better if there was more cohesion to the music to set a tone for the film imo. I still enjoyed watching the film, but I thought it was a pretty serious dropoff from Inglorious Basterds, and one of Tarantino's worst along with Death Proof. Tarantino really missed Sally Menke protecting himself from himself on this one.

Interesting points. Do you think that Tarantino aimed a lot lower with Django than he did with Basterds? With Basterds, Tarantino made a film that's on par with his best. Whereas with Django, it felt to me like he was in the same realm as Deathproof. Seems to me that Tarantino intended to make a genre film here. Whereas with Basterds, I think Tarantino was attempting something much more ambitious along the lines of Pulp Fiction.Some of the music worked for me, but I thought the original songs were pretty corny.

 

[jdoggydogg]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here.

That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.

Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

I don't know when this turned askew, but don't be so defensive. No one's out to get you.

First I get the sanctimonious "I got something to say to you but I won't because like it's something bad that like you won't like, like".

Then I get the "Dude, don't be so paranoid" from some dawg who has a problem with the N-Bomb unless it's in a Tarantino script. Like how much leeway would Lee need? 218 N-Bombs in a 2 hour film?

It's the Internet. I get it. I dunno if you two do.

Tarantino in a radio interview said the reason why he used the N-Bomb so much was to put it out there so many times that it was vulgar. He even chuckled that the word was used so much then in that period that it wasn't a big deal then, so why the big deal now in his movie?

Because nobody is repulsed by it after hearing it over 100 times in a movie. In fact, they start laughing when they hear it.

But hey. it's Tarantino. We still quote Dennis Hopper in True Romance, quote "Dead N-Bomb Storage" (why that's in there I dunno, and why Tarantino cast himself to utter it I dunno either, because he really sucked at that delivery anyway), or when he used it in "Jackie Brown"...

Aw hell, John Singleton should have used it 200 times in his revenge slopfest "Four Brothers". He's Black, and borrows from other movies as well.

You guys alright? I hope I didn't stress you out here.

Why would I be stressed out?

Because Spike Lee is out to get you.

I like Spike. I like his personality, and I count Do The Right Thing as one of my top 100 favorite movies. But he just looks bad here. If a civilian wants to boycott a movie without even seeing it, that's expected. But I expect more from an artist in the same field.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I was pretty disappointed with Django Unchained, seems like a big step backwards after Inglorious Basterds which I thought was fantastic.

There wasn't near as much suspense in the dialogue heavy scenes as there was in other Tarantino films; I always had a pretty decent idea of what was going to happen next, which I don't usually in Tarantino's films.

I also really didn't like how in the shooting scenes, Django would fire 6 bullets and hit 6 dudes, whereas the 6 dudes would fire dozens of bullets and miss Django with every shot. This wouldn't have been as big of an issue if more time was spent on how Django became an incredible sharpshooter; in Kill Bill Tarantino spends hours showing the audience how The Bride became a master swordsman, but in Django Unchained he spends 1 five minute scene showing how Django was an expert sharpshooter as soon as he fired his first shot, pretty lazy storytelling imo.

I thought the music was also pretty ####ty for a Tarantino film. The varying genres caused me to be pulled out of the movie each time. It would have been better if there was more cohesion to the music to set a tone for the film imo.

I still enjoyed watching the film, but I thought it was a pretty serious dropoff from Inglorious Basterds, and one of Tarantino's worst along with Death Proof. Tarantino really missed Sally Menke protecting himself from himself on this one.

Interesting review, against the mostly positive reviews. Would you say that this film while perhaps not QT's best in your opinion but would it still be better than a lot of other films in this past year? How good or bad was it? Scale of zero to 5 stars, 2...3? Just curious if you are trying to measure it simply against QT's other work or all films currently. Thanks

I'd rank it among Looper, Argo, and Lawless of films from this past year that were good but not great. Django Unchained probably had better acting performances relative to those other 3 films, but I thought their stories were more inspired.

All 3 of those might be in my Top 10 of the year....Gotta see Django!

 

[Tremendous Upside]

The "######" debate is so stupid...How awkward would it have been if everyone said African American...It was a film set in the US BEFORE the civil warWhat do you think black people were referred to as back then?

 

[drummer]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here.

That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.

Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

I don't know when this turned askew, but don't be so defensive. No one's out to get you.

First I get the sanctimonious "I got something to say to you but I won't because like it's something bad that like you won't like, like".

Then I get the "Dude, don't be so paranoid" from some dawg who has a problem with the N-Bomb unless it's in a Tarantino script. Like how much leeway would Lee need? 218 N-Bombs in a 2 hour film?

It's the Internet. I get it. I dunno if you two do.

Tarantino in a radio interview said the reason why he used the N-Bomb so much was to put it out there so many times that it was vulgar. He even chuckled that the word was used so much then in that period that it wasn't a big deal then, so why the big deal now in his movie?

Because nobody is repulsed by it after hearing it over 100 times in a movie. In fact, they start laughing when they hear it.

But hey. it's Tarantino. We still quote Dennis Hopper in True Romance, quote "Dead N-Bomb Storage" (why that's in there I dunno, and why Tarantino cast himself to utter it I dunno either, because he really sucked at that delivery anyway), or when he used it in "Jackie Brown"...

Aw hell, John Singleton should have used it 200 times in his revenge slopfest "Four Brothers". He's Black, and borrows from other movies as well.

You guys alright? I hope I didn't stress you out here.

Why would I be stressed out?

Because Spike Lee is out to get you.

I like Spike. I like his personality, and I count Do The Right Thing as one of my top 100 favorite movies. But he just looks bad here. If a civilian wants to boycott a movie without even seeing it, that's expected. But I expect more from an artist in the same field.

Tarantino in that interview 'looked' worse. Using the N-Bomb to excess is just plain arrogant coming from him. Lee made "4 Little Girls", so Lee isn't out of context criticizing Tarantino. Tarantino trivialized the N-Bomb to comic effect. Using that word to excess combined with the blood spaghetti slopfest is no comment on that period of time. It's Tarantino flipping the bird at convention for sure, but it's for his own purposes, not for the sake of art. Tarantino knows how much his scripts get quoted too, so that's more calculated than his half ### defense of using that word.

If I posted that word over 100 times here, I would get banned for life. You'll tell me this isn't an R-Rated movie. Which somehow qualifies that word. Micheal Richards pretty much ended his career shouting that word at a heckler, while Richard Pryor used it in a title of one of his recordings and in his routines. Yet Pryor later regretted using that word, and stopped using it, and I'm sure Richards regrets it.

I'm just not gonna accept it as art when I feel Tarantino uses that word for commerce. He could had used it 90 less times and still got his point across, but that word flows out of him like water. If you accept that, fine. He wasn't making an accurate period film anyway, so I guess it's all entertainment to you.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

 

[drummer]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?

Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

How do you make a movie using that word over 100 times? When it's a Tarantino film. I don't type that word because I don't want to. That's my choice, despite the filter.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?

Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

How do you make a movie using that word over 100 times? When it's a Tarantino film. I don't type that word because I don't want to. That's my choice, despite the filter.

It seems your issue has more to do with the filmmaker than the verisimilitude of the timeframeWhat do you think most everyone referred to black people as in the mid 19th century?

 

[drummer]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?

Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

How do you make a movie using that word over 100 times? When it's a Tarantino film. I don't type that word because I don't want to. That's my choice, despite the filter.

It seems your issue has more to do with the filmmaker than the verisimilitude of the timeframeWhat do you think most everyone referred to black people as in the mid 19th century?

People can make a 21st century movie and use that word over 100 times too.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?

Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

How do you make a movie using that word over 100 times? When it's a Tarantino film. I don't type that word because I don't want to. That's my choice, despite the filter.

It seems your issue has more to do with the filmmaker than the verisimilitude of the timeframeWhat do you think most everyone referred to black people as in the mid 19th century?

People can make a 21st century movie and use that word over 100 times too.

But it isn't set in the 21st centuryIs your answer to not make the movie at all?

 

[drummer]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?

Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

How do you make a movie using that word over 100 times? When it's a Tarantino film. I don't type that word because I don't want to. That's my choice, despite the filter.

It seems your issue has more to do with the filmmaker than the verisimilitude of the timeframeWhat do you think most everyone referred to black people as in the mid 19th century?

People can make a 21st century movie and use that word over 100 times too.

But it isn't set in the 21st centuryIs your answer to not make the movie at all?

The word isn't justified by the time period. You still can make a contemporary movie using that word liberally. Tarantino already has. It's not my work, so can't answer to it. All I can answer too is if I would see it or not, which I won't. But not because of the word. That's only part of it. If that word has to be in that script over 100 times, it doesn't fit my taste.

You can make a point about racism without words or blood and violence. I'd rather see that.

 

[Novice2]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here.

That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.

Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

I don't know when this turned askew, but don't be so defensive. No one's out to get you.

First I get the sanctimonious "I got something to say to you but I won't because like it's something bad that like you won't like, like".

Then I get the "Dude, don't be so paranoid" from some dawg who has a problem with the N-Bomb unless it's in a Tarantino script. Like how much leeway would Lee need? 218 N-Bombs in a 2 hour film?

It's the Internet. I get it. I dunno if you two do.

Tarantino in a radio interview said the reason why he used the N-Bomb so much was to put it out there so many times that it was vulgar. He even chuckled that the word was used so much then in that period that it wasn't a big deal then, so why the big deal now in his movie?

Because nobody is repulsed by it after hearing it over 100 times in a movie. In fact, they start laughing when they hear it.

But hey. it's Tarantino. We still quote Dennis Hopper in True Romance, quote "Dead N-Bomb Storage" (why that's in there I dunno, and why Tarantino cast himself to utter it I dunno either, because he really sucked at that delivery anyway), or when he used it in "Jackie Brown"...

Aw hell, John Singleton should have used it 200 times in his revenge slopfest "Four Brothers". He's Black, and borrows from other movies as well.

You guys alright? I hope I didn't stress you out here.

Why would I be stressed out?

Because Spike Lee is out to get you.

He may tweet out your address and say Zimmerman lives there. Be afraid.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

You haven't answered my questionWhat did people refer to black people as in the mid 19th century?

 

[drummer]

You haven't answered my questionWhat did people refer to black people as in the mid 19th century?

That isn't a serious question, because it isn't a period slur. It's still used when referring to African American people this century. What I find odd? People more sensitive to my criticism of Tarantino using that word than being sensitive to the word itself.

 

[drummer]

So? There is plenty of R Rated stuff posted here.

That's a horrid answer coming from a pretentious sort as you.

Do me a favor and post ###### over 110 times. There ya go fanboy! You've just wrote a Tarantino script!

Pretentious? Is that the best you can do?

Again, you don't need anymore than that.

I could tell you who is coming off as pretentious here with a smidgen of holier than thou thrown in but you wouldn't like it.

Oh jeez thanks. Like this isn't meant to be pretentious at all or condescending or this and that.

I don't know when this turned askew, but don't be so defensive. No one's out to get you.

First I get the sanctimonious "I got something to say to you but I won't because like it's something bad that like you won't like, like".

Then I get the "Dude, don't be so paranoid" from some dawg who has a problem with the N-Bomb unless it's in a Tarantino script. Like how much leeway would Lee need? 218 N-Bombs in a 2 hour film?

It's the Internet. I get it. I dunno if you two do.

Tarantino in a radio interview said the reason why he used the N-Bomb so much was to put it out there so many times that it was vulgar. He even chuckled that the word was used so much then in that period that it wasn't a big deal then, so why the big deal now in his movie?

Because nobody is repulsed by it after hearing it over 100 times in a movie. In fact, they start laughing when they hear it.

But hey. it's Tarantino. We still quote Dennis Hopper in True Romance, quote "Dead N-Bomb Storage" (why that's in there I dunno, and why Tarantino cast himself to utter it I dunno either, because he really sucked at that delivery anyway), or when he used it in "Jackie Brown"...

Aw hell, John Singleton should have used it 200 times in his revenge slopfest "Four Brothers". He's Black, and borrows from other movies as well.

You guys alright? I hope I didn't stress you out here.

Why would I be stressed out?

Because Spike Lee is out to get you.

He may tweet out your address and say Zimmerman lives there. Be afraid.

I should fear Zimmerman more.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I like Spike. I like his personality, and I count Do The Right Thing as one of my top 100 favorite movies. But he just looks bad here. If a civilian wants to boycott a movie without even seeing it, that's expected. But I expect more from an artist in the same field.

Tarantino in that interview 'looked' worse. Using the N-Bomb to excess is just plain arrogant coming from him. Lee made "4 Little Girls", so Lee isn't out of context criticizing Tarantino. Tarantino trivialized the N-Bomb to comic effect. Using that word to excess combined with the blood spaghetti slopfest is no comment on that period of time. It's Tarantino flipping the bird at convention for sure, but it's for his own purposes, not for the sake of art. Tarantino knows how much his scripts get quoted too, so that's more calculated than his half ### defense of using that word. If I posted that word over 100 times here, I would get banned for life. You'll tell me this isn't an R-Rated movie. Which somehow qualifies that word. Micheal Richards pretty much ended his career shouting that word at a heckler, while Richard Pryor used it in a title of one of his recordings and in his routines. Yet Pryor later regretted using that word, and stopped using it, and I'm sure Richards regrets it. I'm just not gonna accept it as art when I feel Tarantino uses that word for commerce. He could had used it 90 less times and still got his point across, but that word flows out of him like water. If you accept that, fine. He wasn't making an accurate period film anyway, so I guess it's all entertainment to you.

Well said. Now that this discussion has transcended any minor personal beef you and I had, we can get down to some really fascinating discussions on this subject. Where to begin? Is Tarantino a great social critic in the realm of men like Mark Twain or Aldus Huxley? No. I know that Tarantino is very proud of his work, and I am certain he believes he is very intelligent. However, I also think that Tarantino would freely admit that he makes entertaining movies that often simply intersect with powerful cultural and historical topics. So even though I liked Django, I would agree with some critics that the movie simultaneously opens up some very painful wounds while offering no answers in lieu of grisly action and jokes.But let's be honest: is it every filmmaker's duty to present simple truths in a somber, stoic manner? I think not. Take the KKK scene: someone else mentioned that it's almost ripped right out of Blazing Saddles, and that's an apt comparison. To take that further, the KKK scene reminded me of Dave Chappell's sketch about the white Klansman. There are some things in life - like slavery and racism - that are almost too much to bear. They are so horrific and awful, I have a hard time coping with them on any level. So to laugh at this stuff is cathartic to a degree.Did you read up on that ESPN commentator who said that Robert Griffen III isn't a real black man? I haven't read your opinion on that matter. But personally, I think that's a mean, awful thing to say about a man. Does the race of the man make those comments worse or less bad? I don't know. Would it be ok if a black director used the N word 100 times in his movie? Even for laughs? Words are very painful. That old saying that sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me? I hate that cliche. Words are the most hurtful thing in the world. You can easily recover from a broken bone. Words can sting for a lifetime. So I am acutely aware that the N word is a malicious, terrible word. So is Tarantino. I think that Spike Lee is angry at Tarantino because he believes that Django Unchained is turning a horrific mass murder into mere entertainment. What about Schindler's List? Yes, Spielberg's masterpiece is a serious, dark portrait of a terrible tragedy. That movie made a lot of money, and it gave millions of viewers a chance to feel a shred of goodness about something where there is no reason to feel good.

 

[jdoggydogg]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?

Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

How do you make a movie using that word over 100 times? When it's a Tarantino film. I don't type that word because I don't want to. That's my choice, despite the filter.

We agree that the word is extremely hurtful.How do you feel when a comedian like Dave Chappelle or Eddie Murphy uses it?

 

[jdoggydogg]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?

Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

How do you make a movie using that word over 100 times? When it's a Tarantino film. I don't type that word because I don't want to. That's my choice, despite the filter.

It seems your issue has more to do with the filmmaker than the verisimilitude of the timeframeWhat do you think most everyone referred to black people as in the mid 19th century?

People can make a 21st century movie and use that word over 100 times too.

But it isn't set in the 21st centuryIs your answer to not make the movie at all?

The word isn't justified by the time period. You still can make a contemporary movie using that word liberally. Tarantino already has. It's not my work, so can't answer to it. All I can answer too is if I would see it or not, which I won't. But not because of the word. That's only part of it. If that word has to be in that script over 100 times, it doesn't fit my taste.

You can make a point about racism without words or blood and violence. I'd rather see that.

This is another interesting point, and I agree. But I'd rather watch 20 films about racism that are all radically unique than watch 20 films that are all identical in tone or content.

 

[jdoggydogg]

You haven't answered my question

What did people refer to black people as in the mid 19th century?

That isn't a serious question, because it isn't a period slur. It's still used when referring to African American people this century. What I find odd? People more sensitive to my criticism of Tarantino using that word than being sensitive to the word itself.

I can't speak for any other poster here, but this is so not true for me. I don't think Tarantino is some kind of infallible deity that should never be questioned or criticized.

 

[drummer]

How do you make that movie without using the word ######?

Oh,and by the way, use it all you like, there is a language filter here

How do you make a movie using that word over 100 times? When it's a Tarantino film. I don't type that word because I don't want to. That's my choice, despite the filter.

We agree that the word is extremely hurtful.How do you feel when a comedian like Dave Chappelle or Eddie Murphy uses it?

Their body of work reflects more than just that word, and Chappelle's "The N-Bombs" skit is way more effective in a contemporary setting then just being lazy like Tarantino is by saying "Well, people used it in that time period". South Park did something similar with the "Wheel of Fortune" segment. Those two examples show absurdity using that word in generalization. Afro-American comics like Pryor used that word to connect to their audiences reflecting ther as well as the Afro-American experience. To them, it's deeper than just using it as a line like Dennis Hopper's in True Romance where that line was meant to insult Christopher Walken's Mob Boss character. I know a Sicilian from the old country who was appalled not by the word when she saw that scene, but by that correlation. It wound up insulting two cultures, and that's what that line was meant for. It's a pure racist insult, bottom line. If an Afro-American person uses it, I have no license to say much about it. An Afro-American young man from Kentucky I used to work with used it all the time around me, and even said it was OK that I can say it around him. I told him it's different coming from me, and I grew up around and was a target of prejudice most of my young life. I have used that word in the past, but it doesn't make it right. You can't use it liberally because it's a horrid term that has death and suffering along with the lack of human rights in this country attached to it.

Had Tarantino used it less, there is no real issue. But his body of work has that word used a lot, and he should damn well answer to it. His use of that word was vulgar in his past scripts, and his reaction to this one is appalling. He is still a Man Child with a huge budget to make films. The day he finally grows up and makes a real film without the violence and vulgarity is the day he can be mentioned with a Milos Forman or even Martin Scorcese, who can make a film without those themes.