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[LOCO]

Qb- Peyton Manning. Seems like a risky pick. Could be 1 hit from retiring

Rb - Charles/ Sproles. Charles will loses touches to Hillis. Ingram will cut into Sproles production.

Wr - AJ/Wallace/ Austin. One is getting old, one is a holdout, and one has hammie issues already

TE - Gronk. Overvalue

 

[identikit]

Redraft? Dynasty?

 

[rizzler]

Maurice Jones Poo.

very mature, Rizzler.

 

[matuski]

SJax, MJD, Cam, Dez

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Charles will loses touches to Hillis.

So what? In 2010 Thomas Jones had 245 carries to Charles 230 and Jamaal was still a top-5 RB.

 

[Pipes]

No such thing as a no draft list for me. Though I can't imagine drafting Jahvid Best, assuming he's even cleared to play.

 

[solorca]

More of a personal thing, but for me, it's Tony Romo. He lost two leagues for me with his week 16 injuries.

LeSean McCoy is another one for me. I have nothing to back it up, but I just have a bad feeling about him this year... And I usually go with my gut. I'd take him if he slips past Rodgers, Mathews, and Calvin... But that's it.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Not quite a dont draft list, but these guys won't be on any of my teams.

Eli

Turner

Gore

Best

Wells

Wallace

Finley

 

[Skeletore Eh]

SJax, MJD, Cam, Dez

Completely disagree about sjax. Low end rb1 numbers at the end of the second beginning of the third round. High floor and room for upside if the offense can improve at all (which shouldn't be difficult)

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

No such thing as a no draft list for me. Though I can't imagine drafting Jahvid Best, assuming he's even cleared to play.

If a draft goes enough rounds, sure, everybody is on the board. I think we're talking about guys we won't draft high enough to actually get.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Qb- Peyton Manning. Seems like a risky pick. Could be 1 hit from retiringRb - Charles/ Sproles. Charles will loses touches to Hillis. Ingram will cut into Sproles production. Wr - AJ/Wallace/ Austin. One is getting old, one is a holdout, and one has hammie issues alreadyTE - Gronk. Overvalue

Every QB is one hit from being out for the season. I wouldn't pay the Manning's prime of his career price but he's not being drafted there either. He's a great option if you wait to get your QB.Charles has always produced with a backfield mate. I would argue Hillis will keep Charles' touches down and keep him more explosive.

 

[coolnerd]

No such thing as a no draft list for me.

I was think this also when I read the title, but the responses all seem to be don't draft at his current ADP list. I can see not using a top 10 pick on Gronk but if he is there in the 4th round (in everyone's dreams) I would break my finger taking him there.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Adrian Peterson at his current ADP. No thanks.

Jonathan Stewart. I can live with the timeshare with DeAngelo but Cam steals way too many TDs.

 

[rocketsauce]

QB - Philip Rivers. Totally f'd my 2011 season with his #### start. I'll gladly take RG3 before him

RB - Trent Richardson. Just not interested. Especially at the spot you've gotta take him. He's a rookie RB on the Cleveland Browns....

WR - Miles Austin. I don't have a good reason for this. Bad track record with him I suppose. Tired of 3 for 31 games. Honorable mention: Andre Johnson. Just keep finding reasons to take the guys behind him before him when I'm on the clock.

TE - Brandon Pettigrew - Just doesn't "feel" like a top 8 TE pick to me. Rather wait forever and end up with Cook/Daniels/Rudolph/Celek/etc.

K & DST - Not before the 2nd to last rounds.

 

[lazyike]

A. Johnson- ankle,hammy,groin. a true stud when healthy but he has a defective drive train.

 

[ponchsox]

MJD, ADP, Charles, Andre Johnson, Wallace, Gore, Best

Maybe McFadden, I hope I'm not in a spot where I have to decide on him.

 

[Sea Duck]

I will wait to see how Manning performs in training camp/preseason before deciding that he's an injury risk.

If you think Jamaal Charles should be on a DND list, then you are ignoring history. Charles was the #4 fantasy RB in 2010 as the BACKUP to Thomas Jones. Pretty sure he's not going to be affected by (or threatened by) Peyton Hillis. Give Hillis 200 carries and Charles is still a top-tier RB.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Every player has a value. Can't say I'd avoid any player completely. Don't make emotional decisions playing fantasy.

 

[Donnybrook]

Every player has a value. Can't say I'd avoid any player completely. Don't make emotional decisions playing fantasy.

Read the fine print: "Do not Draft List At their ADP"

RB: Mathews

WR: Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, Titus Young.

 

[Chazzhawk]

I will give a starting lineup for redrafts

QB = Cam Newton

RB = Ahmad Bradshaw

RB = Frank Gore

WR = Kenny Britt

WR = Hakeem Nicks

TE = Fred Davis

Flex = Jahvid Best

 

[griff321]

I've seen TRich go as high as 6th overall. No thanks.

 

[Donnybrook]

I will give a starting lineup for redraftsQB = Cam NewtonRB = Ahmad BradshawRB = Frank GoreWR = Kenny BrittWR = Hakeem NicksTE = Fred DavisFlex = Jahvid Best

I like Gore's ADP. Nicks got drafted behind Cruz in the league I'm currently drafting in.

 

[Run It Up]

QB: Cam Newton or Michael Vick

RB: Ryan Mathews (top 10 RB, LMFAO ok.)

WR: Brandon Marshall

TE: Jermichael Finley

 

[maxwelledison]

Cam

Richardson

Turner

AJ

 

[Chazzhawk]

QB: Cam Newton or Michael VickRB: Ryan Mathews (top 10 RB, LMFAO ok.)WR: Brandon MarshallTE: Jermichael Finley

You do realize that Mathews was top 10 last year?

 

[Run It Up]

QB: Cam Newton or Michael VickRB: Ryan Mathews (top 10 RB, LMFAO ok.)WR: Brandon MarshallTE: Jermichael Finley

You do realize that Mathews was top 10 last year?

Not in my league.I expected this response sooner, little dissapointed - mathews owners losing faith?Hes regularly going RB6, and I find it hilarious.

 

[Chazzhawk]

QB: Cam Newton or Michael VickRB: Ryan Mathews (top 10 RB, LMFAO ok.)WR: Brandon MarshallTE: Jermichael Finley

You do realize that Mathews was top 10 last year?

Not in my league.I expected this response sooner, little dissapointed - mathews owners losing faith?Hes regularly going RB6, and I find it hilarious.

What 10 backs were ahead of him?

 

[Sea Duck]

QB: Cam Newton or Michael VickRB: Ryan Mathews (top 10 RB, LMFAO ok.)WR: Brandon MarshallTE: Jermichael Finley

You do realize that Mathews was top 10 last year?

Not in my league.I expected this response sooner, little dissapointed - mathews owners losing faith?Hes regularly going RB6, and I find it hilarious.

You find it hilarious that the majority of fantasy football players don't utilize your screwy scoring system?

 

[ponchsox]

QB: Cam Newton or Michael VickRB: Ryan Mathews (top 10 RB, LMFAO ok.)WR: Brandon MarshallTE: Jermichael Finley

You do realize that Mathews was top 10 last year?

Top 10 while missing the last two games and with Tolbert there.

 

[Run It Up]

QB: Cam Newton or Michael VickRB: Ryan Mathews (top 10 RB, LMFAO ok.)WR: Brandon MarshallTE: Jermichael Finley

You do realize that Mathews was top 10 last year?

Not in my league.I expected this response sooner, little dissapointed - mathews owners losing faith?Hes regularly going RB6, and I find it hilarious.

What 10 backs were ahead of him?

While checking for you, he did finish 10th.Not sure where Sproles finished in standard as im in no standard leagues but he was the only one that may have looked out of place, finished RB4.But my opinion of Mathews hasnt changed, he managed to sneak into the top 10 last year, bad season for more than a handful of backs (most of which I consider better than Mathews).To name a few:FortePetersonGoreFjaxBradshaw

 

[Chazzhawk]

QB: Cam Newton or Michael Vick

RB: Ryan Mathews (top 10 RB, LMFAO ok.)

WR: Brandon Marshall

TE: Jermichael Finley

You do realize that Mathews was top 10 last year?

Not in my league.I expected this response sooner, little dissapointed - mathews owners losing faith?

Hes regularly going RB6, and I find it hilarious.

What 10 backs were ahead of him?

While checking for you, he did finish 10th.Not sure where Sproles finished in standard as im in no standard leagues but he was the only one that may have looked out of place, finished RB4.

But my opinion of Mathews hasnt changed, he managed to sneak into the top 10 last year, bad season for more than a handful of backs (most of which I consider better than Mathews).

To name a few:

Forte

Peterson

Gore

Fjax

Bradshaw

There is so much wrong with what you have said do you realize how dumb it sounds?First he made the top 10 last year while missing 2 games and his touchdown vulture is now gone to Carolina.

So you are going to tell me you can't believe a guy that is only 25 years old is being drafted as the as the 6th running back taken when he finished top 10 last year and he missed 2 games and his main competition for carries and touchdowns has moved to a new team?

Not sure of your scoring but I am using standard PPR, which I am sure you have to be close with Sproles ranking so high.

Forte - 997 rush yards, 52 catches 490 yards 4 total td's 2 fumbles lost = 222.70 points

Peterson - 973 rush yards, 18 catches for 139 yards 13 total touchdowns = 207.2

Gore - 1211 rush yards, 17 catches for 114 yards 8 total touchdowns 2 fumbles lost = 195.5

Fjax - 934 rush yards, 39 catches for 442 yards 6 total touchdowns 2 fumbles lost = 210.6

Bradshaw - 659 rush yards, 34 catches for 267 yards 11 total touchdowns 1 fumble lost = 193.6

Mathews - 1091 rush yards, 50 catches for 455 yards 6 total touchdowns 2 fumbles lost = 238.6

So either your scoring is completely jacked up or you are full of it, because not only did he outscore just 1 of these guys he outscored them all and they were all in your leagues top 10, plus the Sproles, Mccoy, Foster, and Rice, and that leaves out Turner, Lynch who were in the top 10 as well.

If you don't like Mathews because he gets hurt, you just don't think he can be a full time back, or you have a gut feeling that is one thing, but don't make crap out to try to justify your point.

EDIT: Look at the bold and underlined, it is impossible for Fjax to beat Mathews in any scoring system because he beat or tied him in every category, and you can almost say that for Forte as well.

 

[Touchdown There]

While checking for you, he did finish 10th.

Post a link to your league. I am betting you are including week 17 in your numbers. No one plays fantasy in week 17, when Mathews sat out a meaningless game. Link it to prove it.

 

[cr8f]

For me Lynch at 27 and Gronk at 13, I don't think anyone will duplicate that season.

Also don't like James Starks(107) yet-I'm a Starks owner and just picked up Saine(427). Right now it looks like Alex Green(233) will start or Ryan Grant(450) will be signed.

Andre Johnson scares me too and I have him too.

 

[Run It Up]

While checking for you, he did finish 10th.

Post a link to your league. I am betting you are including week 17 in your numbers. No one plays fantasy in week 17, when Mathews sat out a meaningless game. Link it to prove it.

Ill post a link in a minute, just wait for it.

 

[Run It Up]

There is so much wrong with what you have said do you realize how dumb it sounds?

First he made the top 10 last year while missing 2 games and his touchdown vulture is now gone to Carolina.

So you are going to tell me you can't believe a guy that is only 25 years old is being drafted as the as the 6th running back taken when he finished top 10 last year and he missed 2 games and his main competition for carries and touchdowns has moved to a new team?

Not sure of your scoring but I am using standard PPR, which I am sure you have to be close with Sproles ranking so high.

Forte - 997 rush yards, 52 catches 490 yards 4 total td's 2 fumbles lost = 222.70 points

Peterson - 973 rush yards, 18 catches for 139 yards 13 total touchdowns = 207.2

Gore - 1211 rush yards, 17 catches for 114 yards 8 total touchdowns 2 fumbles lost = 195.5

Fjax - 934 rush yards, 39 catches for 442 yards 6 total touchdowns 2 fumbles lost = 210.6

Bradshaw - 659 rush yards, 34 catches for 267 yards 11 total touchdowns 1 fumble lost = 193.6

Mathews - 1091 rush yards, 50 catches for 455 yards 6 total touchdowns 2 fumbles lost = 238.6

So either your scoring is completely jacked up or you are full of it, because not only did he outscore just 1 of these guys he outscored them all and they were all in your leagues top 10, plus the Sproles, Mccoy, Foster, and Rice, and that leaves out Turner, Lynch who were in the top 10 as well.

If you don't like Mathews because he gets hurt, you just don't think he can be a full time back, or you have a gut feeling that is one thing, but don't make crap out to try to justify your point.

EDIT: Look at the bold and underlined, it is impossible for Fjax to beat Mathews in any scoring system because he beat or tied him in every category, and you can almost say that for Forte as well.

Did you miss the part where I said last year was a bad year for a ton of rbs that I considered all to be better than Mathews, then listed a handful. Didnt realize that was confusing.So Mathews missed 2 games right, with a splinter or something.

Well FJax almost beat out his production missing 6 games...

 

[The Dude]

This was a good topic until the illiterate joined

 

[Grady Wilson]

lol at Run It Up. Trying to back his failed position and is doing a miserable job at it. I couldn't care less about Matthews, but watching him try to defend his original comments has been pretty funny.

 

[gebz306]

This was a good topic until the illiterate joined

Seriously, I feel like I witnessed a screaming match.Based on current ADP and a belief that they may ruin my season I will avoid...Vick, Romo, BBen....(Cutler, Shaub, Flacco - for 2 qb leauges)Mathews, Richardson, Charles, Bradshaw(probably) and of course everybodys fav Gore n Turner Gronk(bc ankle). Crop is deep so I draft a te really late or for $1 except keeping J.Graham ($25/$250 for start 2 te league)WR's this year are incredibly deep. I think last year I only wanted 15-20, as opposed to 30 this year. So I can see myself drafting any high, but if I had to, ide avoid...AJ, Nicks, Jennings, Austin, Dez, Bowe, Lloyd, Moore(feel like hes fragile and is everybodys "sleeper". = overvalued) and sadly Britt who was my sleeper last yr.I will never draft a Defense early. 49ers are legit thoI wont be drafting a punter in the 3rd round like the Jaguars either lolohhh man the game is on gg!

 

[Touchdown There]

While checking for you, he did finish 10th.

Post a link to your league. I am betting you are including week 17 in your numbers. No one plays fantasy in week 17, when Mathews sat out a meaningless game. Link it to prove it.

Ill post a link in a minute, just wait for it.

It has been hours, so I will just assume that Mathews actually ended up RB 6-8, where he ended the fantasy season in nearly all leagues. Tolbert is now gone. If you want to take a jab at Mathews being "injury prone" then go for it. However, the board will just come back with 15 RBs that did not make it through the season.Top ten RB? He has already done it. Give him credit where credit is due.

 

[mbuehner]

Where does Mathews rank in ppg? On my phone or id check.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Every player has a value. Can't say I'd avoid any player completely. Don't make emotional decisions playing fantasy.

Read the fine print: "Do not Draft List At their ADP"

RB: Mathews

WR: Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, Titus Young.

Point taken. Well Denarious Moore and Torry Smith are good players that are overvalued to me.

 

[ponchsox]

James Starks- Alex Green will take over by mid season.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Brees, Newton, Robert Griffin

McFadden, MJD, Richardson, J. Charles

Jennings, AJ Green, Cruz, Wallace

Gronk, Tamme, Gonzalez, Fleener

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Qb- Peyton Manning. Seems like a risky pick. Could be 1 hit from retiring

There's reasons to avoid Manning, but not sure why people keep saying the bolded - its simply not true other than in the sense that he's one hit away just like every other player.

 

[Eviloutsider]

Newton

Roddy White

Jennings

Richardson

Lynch

Hernandez

 

[mbuehner]

Fwiw, Ryan Mathews was RB12 by fantasy points per game. I think concern over drafting him in the top 5 rbs is reasonable. His circumstances seem to have improved, but you have to consider that Tolbert was a big part of this offense because he was very good at what he did. Mathews could see more touches with a less efficient offense, which could end up dampening his improved numbers to some degree. Personally I have a feeling San Diego is going to struggle offensively with all the personnel losses.

 

[Touchdown There]

I am seeing Newton a bunch on this list. Is he worth it in the 3rd round? Where should his ADP be?

 

[Run It Up]

While checking for you, he did finish 10th.

Post a link to your league. I am betting you are including week 17 in your numbers. No one plays fantasy in week 17, when Mathews sat out a meaningless game. Link it to prove it.

Ill post a link in a minute, just wait for it.

It has been hours, so I will just assume that Mathews actually ended up RB 6-8, where he ended the fantasy season in nearly all leagues. Tolbert is now gone. If you want to take a jab at Mathews being "injury prone" then go for it. However, the board will just come back with 15 RBs that did not make it through the season.Top ten RB? He has already done it. Give him credit where credit is due.

Are you waiting, just give me a minute.Dont go anywhere.

Also the board doesnt have to, I already made that point, I just implied they were all better than Mathews.

 

[Touchdown There]

While checking for you, he did finish 10th.

Post a link to your league. I am betting you are including week 17 in your numbers. No one plays fantasy in week 17, when Mathews sat out a meaningless game. Link it to prove it.

Ill post a link in a minute, just wait for it.

It has been hours, so I will just assume that Mathews actually ended up RB 6-8, where he ended the fantasy season in nearly all leagues. Tolbert is now gone. If you want to take a jab at Mathews being "injury prone" then go for it. However, the board will just come back with 15 RBs that did not make it through the season.Top ten RB? He has already done it. Give him credit where credit is due.

Are you waiting, just give me a minute.Dont go anywhere.

Also the board doesnt have to, I already made that point, I just implied they were all better than Mathews.

If you do not want to use the apostrophe, you can separate into two words. Do not. Does not.

 

[Run It Up]

Are you waiting, just give me a minute.Dont go anywhere.Also the board doesnt have to, I already made that point, I just implied they were all better than Mathews.

If you do not want to use the apostrophe, you can separate into two words. Do not. Does not.

Apostrophes are a waste of time.Idk for you, but for me using apostrophes lowers my wpm by 25%, maybe I just have dumb pinkies.But if youre willing to stick around, ill change it for you. Just give me a minute.