Do People honestly think Miami will take Russell if he falls? (1 Viewer)

[a_rackowski]

Culpepper is under contract for 3 more years yet. Very reasonable numbers at 6 Million per season. There is no way that Miami drafts a QB. This talk about them selecting Russell is really starting to drive me up a wall. He wasnt healthy this year, thats why he was put on IR. Its not like he forgot how to play the game. I am just curious if people seriously think that Miami would select Russell if he fell.

 

[Pnishthm]

Culpepper is under contract for 3 more years yet. Very reasonable numbers at 6 Million per season. There is no way that Miami drafts a QB. This talk about them selecting Russell is really starting to drive me up a wall. He wasnt healthy this year, thats why he was put on IR. Its not like he forgot how to play the game. I am just curious if people seriously think that Miami would select Russell if he fell.

First off, Russel won't fall that far so you won't have to worry about it.

 

[Statorama]

Culpepper is under contract for 3 more years yet. Very reasonable numbers at 6 Million per season. There is no way that Miami drafts a QB. This talk about them selecting Russell is really starting to drive me up a wall. He wasnt healthy this year, thats why he was put on IR. Its not like he forgot how to play the game. I am just curious if people seriously think that Miami would select Russell if he fell.

Phillip Rivers sat on the bench and watched the starter for a few years before taking the helm. Seemed to work out pretty well in that situation.

 

[-OZ-]

Culpepper is under contract for 3 more years yet. Very reasonable numbers at 6 Million per season. There is no way that Miami drafts a QB. This talk about them selecting Russell is really starting to drive me up a wall. He wasnt healthy this year, thats why he was put on IR. Its not like he forgot how to play the game. I am just curious if people seriously think that Miami would select Russell if he fell.

Any time a player of his caliber falls to #9, it seems you'd have to make that pick, but I agree overall. QB isn't the primary area of need in Miami. CPep should be ok next year, and if not, Lemon has proven serviceable. If Russell somehow fell to #9, I would think we'd see Carolina or Jacksonville trade up. Fact is, I don't see Minnesota and Houston passing on him - IF he fell that far.

 

[3C's]

The Vikings have Tarvaris Jackson, so scratch them from the trade up list.

Culpepper might not be ready at the start of the season, but I don't think that would play into the Dolphins decision if Russell was available because Russell wouldn't play right away. But, like Statorama said, I could see him sitting for a year or 2 while he develops.

As far as the contract goes, NFL contracts aren't guaranteed so they could cut him and take the cap hit. The thing that would worry me if I was a Miami fan is that Culpepper didn't look that good at Minnesota before the injury after Moss left. And he certainly didn't look good at Miami. He might never return to Pro Bowl form.

Miami would be crazy to pass on the guy if he fell that far though. Guy seems to have crazy good talent.

As said already though, Russell won't last that long...unless something bad comes out between now and draft day. Like busted for drugs, beating up an old lady, etc.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Culpepper has given Miami no reason to count on him for the long haul, not physically, and not with his play on the field. He had a 2nd knee surgery and is still not ready to play football yet. If the Dolphins see a franchise QB that they like on the board at #9, they should not pass on him. If Culpepper comes back like a man possessed in 07, that creates a great situation for the Dolphins, not a bad one.

 

[Assani Fisher]

The Vikings have Tarvaris Jackson, so scratch them from the trade up list.

Using this logic you could make a case that no team would take him because they have "player X." Having Tarvaris Jackson as your #1 QB this offseason does not make that position a strength of your team imho.

 

[3C's]

The Vikings have Tarvaris Jackson, so scratch them from the trade up list.

Using this logic you could make a case that no team would take him because they have "player X." Having Tarvaris Jackson as your #1 QB this offseason does not make that position a strength of your team imho.

A lot of teams would pass on him because they have other needs. Jackson was drafted in the 2nd round last year. There's little chance they would take another qb this year in the early rounds. They have other needs. There's a lot of teams that would pass on a qb in the first round because that position is set. Others, like the Raiders, Lions and Texans would not.

 

[JohnnyU]

I doubt Miami wants two Dante's on their team.

 

[BigJim®]

Culpepper is under contract for 3 more years yet. Very reasonable numbers at 6 Million per season. There is no way that Miami drafts a QB. This talk about them selecting Russell is really starting to drive me up a wall. He wasnt healthy this year, thats why he was put on IR. Its not like he forgot how to play the game. I am just curious if people seriously think that Miami would select Russell if he fell.

 

[LongDrivethenFoozle]

Russell will not drop to Miami....but if he did they would have to take him. Having him and Culpepper would be an awesome tandem! Similar athletes.....it would help in his maturation, and the Dolphins would have made the biggest stride possible to a return to prominence! Ignore comparisons and just recognize his incredible up-side. If the "idiot" Raider group doesn't jump all over this man it will be......well.....the Raiders! Brady Quinn is the next Brian Griese!

 

[-OZ-]

The Vikings have Tarvaris Jackson, so scratch them from the trade up list.

Has TJ done enough to warrant them passing on Russell if he's there? (I honestly don't know)

 

[3C's]

The Vikings have Tarvaris Jackson, so scratch them from the trade up list.

Has TJ done enough to warrant them passing on Russell if he's there? (I honestly don't know)

Hard to say, but personally I think so. He's at least done enough to go into camp next year as the starter. He had a decent start once he got on the field. He didn't play much. Played in 2 games, started 2. Bad outing in week 16, the other 3 outings were good. Week 17 he was 20/34 for 213 yds and 1 td, 7 rushes for 34 and 1 td. The bad: 4 ints and 4 fumbles in those 4 appearances.

 

[Marc Levin]

It is a complete unknown what the 'phins will do in the draft - they have to replace both HC and GM.

 

[billyjoe]

The Russell hype is hilarious. NFL scouts usually watch more then 1 game against a bad D.

Lets just get things back into reality for a second.

@Florida L 23-10 24/41 228 1 TD 3 INTs

@Auburn L 7-3 20/35 269 0 TDs 0 TDs

Those were probably the 2 best Ds he faced.

44/76 57% passing. 1 TD 3 INTs

The next big time game is probably

@Tennessee W 28-24 24/36 247 3 TDs 3 INTs

So we're looking at 4 tds 7 ints in his games against big time teams, with good defense’s. And he's a junior. Jeff George had a great arm too. So did Ryan Leaf.

I'm glad Russell can throw it 70 yards in his sleep. But against good Ds he was fairly average. You can't even compare him to VY. He had monster games, against great college Ds. Russell has largely struggled against the best Ds he's faced.

And no one was posting about Russel a week ago. So he carved up a bad ND defense. So does pretty much every QB they face. If you're jumping Russell from mid/late 1st, to 1st overall because of the Sugar Bowl, you need to watch more college football.

The 1st game scouts will be going over with Russell isn't the Sugar Bowl, it's the Florida game. See how he does against the best D he's faced. And he was pretty bad.

 

[3C's]

And no one was posting about Russel a week ago.

I didn't post about him, but I was at a bar before the bowl game and told my buddy (raider fan) that Russell would/should be their pick.

If you're jumping Russell from mid/late 1st, to 1st overall because of the Sugar Bowl, you need to watch more college football.

I think quite a few people who have watched quite a bit of college football disagree with you. Obviously it depends on who the Raiders choose, likely to be Quinn or Russell, and who needs a qb after that. Raiders, Lions, Browns, Texans and Bucs. I can't see all of them passing on Russell.

 

[billyjoe]

And no one was posting about Russel a week ago.

I didn't post about him, but I was at a bar before the bowl game and told my buddy (raider fan) that Russell would/should be their pick.

If you're jumping Russell from mid/late 1st, to 1st overall because of the Sugar Bowl, you need to watch more college football.

I think quite a few people who have watched quite a bit of college football disagree with you. Obviously it depends on who the Raiders choose, likely to be Quinn or Russell, and who needs a qb after that. Raiders, Lions, Browns, Texans and Bucs. I can't see all of them passing on Russell.

We both know if you swap the game vs ND with his game vs Florida, peoeple would be screaming he's not ready for the NFL, and he needs to stay in school. They both happened. They're both on film. Because the ND was on tv across america, it somehow means more? Uh no. It actually means less because it's against a garbage D.The guy should stay in school. The only elite D he played, he blew ###.

 

[LongDrivethenFoozle]

It's not hype with Russell......Brady Quinn is more of a recipient of hype. Last week....last year....it's all speculation, and potential when drafting a QB. If Russell were a little fella, of course it would be more of a dramatic step-up in perception......but size does matter when skills are equal. Intangibles are hard to measure.....and that was the big hype on Quinn. But he is more of a product of the sytem that made him popular. Russell can survive the accuracy issues much better then Quinn because he will make things happen! The 2006 hype was Brady Quinn as the Heisman winner as Notre Dame won the National Championship, but Russell proved to the nation that he is ready for the next level, and Quinn is the most likely selection by a "flailing" franchise.......to be the next member of the other 3rd string QB's. Russell will blow past Quinn in taking the next step! Quinn couldn't even take the silver spoon of 2006 out of his mouth long enough admit to Troy Smith that he was the 4th best College QB after being hailed as the "sure fire" can't miss. I hope the Raiders do take Quinn, and Russell goes to Detroit......the Lions might want to go another direction until he falls into their lap! If Millen is gone......it won't be a Joey Harrington pick.......it will be more of a Barry Sanders. :IBTL: