Do the FBG's do any type of 2010 Year in Review..? (1 Viewer)

[Stinkin Ref]

Do any of the staff here do a "Year in Review" type of thing?

Would like to see some discussion about what they saw, what they learned, maybe breakdown how their preseason projections hit or missed. How good were the weekly player rankings, etc. Maybe some things we should have seen coming, patterns, players who surprised/disappointed, etc.

We get a ton of info in here before and during the season, but not much after. A little post season wrap up looking back would be nice to see as we start preparing for 2011.

Just a thought....

 

[Matt Waldman]

Do any of the staff here do a "Year in Review" type of thing?Would like to see some discussion about what they saw, what they learned, maybe breakdown how their preseason projections hit or missed. How good were the weekly player rankings, etc. Maybe some things we should have seen coming, patterns, players who surprised/disappointed, etc.We get a ton of info in here before and during the season, but not much after. A little post season wrap up looking back would be nice to see as we start preparing for 2011. Just a thought....

The Audible does some of that wrap-up. Might want to check out some December episodes.

 

[TS Garp]

Frankly, I've never understood why FBG doesn't do this. I think it's something that's really missing. It's so important to look back, analyze who you missed on, who you hit on and why, and how that can be applied to next season. The FBG coverage is amazing but not having any sort of year in review is a pretty glaring omission.

 

[AllVolUT]

Last year Bloom summed up RBs, WRs, and QBs. It was great. I too was hoping we'd see him do that again.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Frankly, I've never understood why FBG doesn't do this. I think it's something that's really missing. It's so important to look back, analyze who you missed on, who you hit on and why, and how that can be applied to next season. The FBG coverage is amazing but not having any sort of year in review is a pretty glaring omission.

there must be some reason this does not happen....it would only seem to make sense for one of the heavyweights in this business to have some type of year in review self evaluation that is made public....at least to the subscribers.....definatley something that is wanted/would be appreciated by the customer.....

 

[matuski]

"We were right on XXX because we were lucky and our predictions came true."

"We were wrong on XXX because what we predicted didn't happen..."

That about sums it up.

Fantasy Football projections are an attempt to predict the future... nothing more. I'd rather they continue to provide as much information/insight as possible for 2011 than spend any energy pouring over their 100000000000000 predictions from last year.

 

[thehornet]

"We were right on XXX because we were lucky and our predictions came true.""We were wrong on XXX because what we predicted didn't happen..."That about sums it up. Fantasy Football projections are an attempt to predict the future... nothing more. I'd rather they continue to provide as much information/insight as possible for 2011 than spend any energy pouring over their 100000000000000 predictions from last year.

a year in review article isn't "pouring over the years' predictions". I'm not sure why you think they're the same.

 

[Joe Bryant]

"We were right on XXX because we were lucky and our predictions came true.""We were wrong on XXX because what we predicted didn't happen..."That about sums it up. Fantasy Football projections are an attempt to predict the future... nothing more. I'd rather they continue to provide as much information/insight as possible for 2011 than spend any energy pouring over their 100000000000000 predictions from last year.

a year in review article isn't "pouring over the years' predictions". I'm not sure why you think they're the same.

Thanks hornet.Agreed - it's way more than poring over predictions. It's trying to see what we learned from last year with the singular focus of applying it forward to the upcoming year. It's not an easy to do right which is honestly, why we haven't tackled it yet. I agree for sure it has value though and it's something we'll look at doing.J

 

[JamesTheScot]

Last year Bloom summed up RBs, WRs, and QBs. It was great. I too was hoping we'd see him do that again.

But it's a whole other thing to revisit your predictions and decipher why things went wrong.I suspect it doesn't get done for a couple of reasons.

One, this is a subscriber site, so what does it serve to remind everyone of your misses in a comprehensive format? Not to mention, a competitor who doesn't do this could point to your admitted misses as admissions of incompetence. With a large enough sample size, an accuracy rate of 55% compared to 50% is significant. But if you aren't sure if the consumer/public understands that, you may not want to go bragging about a 55% accuracy rate.

Second, we either don't know why we miss or the miss was caused by something we couldn't predict (like injury). McFadden was a lost cause to some, while others thought he was primed for a comeback. There wasn't much in the way of concrete support for the comeback position because of past perfomance. But then again, past performance, as it pertains to an individual, is still affected by a myriad of variables, many of which could change in a season. Donald Brown is going to be in the same boat this season even though he was in a similar boat last season with his supporters hoping for a Ray Rice emergence. But in all liklihood, we are still biased by our initial feelings on him and we'll pick him for a McFadden-esque emergence if we like him and we'll look elsewhere if we weren't high on him to begin with.

 

[Lambert]

"We were right on XXX because we were lucky and our predictions came true.""We were wrong on XXX because what we predicted didn't happen..."That about sums it up. Fantasy Football projections are an attempt to predict the future... nothing more. I'd rather they continue to provide as much information/insight as possible for 2011 than spend any energy pouring over their 100000000000000 predictions from last year.

a year in review article isn't "pouring over the years' predictions". I'm not sure why you think they're the same.

Thanks hornet.Agreed - it's way more than poring over predictions. It's trying to see what we learned from last year with the singular focus of applying it forward to the upcoming year. It's not an easy to do right which is honestly, why we haven't tackled it yet. I agree for sure it has value though and it's something we'll look at doing.J

Exactly, Joe! It's the same idea as that old saying -- "Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day; teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime." I'd love to read analysis on FBG's hits as well as misses, especially if possible where FBG's rankings were noticeably different from the mainstream. For the great calls they made that most folks missed, what is it that you guys saw that others didn't see that led you to your conclusion? For the misses -- what in retrospect do you think you were overlooking, misinterpreting, giving too much weight to, etc.? Now obviously there are a lot of calls that don't need explanation ... if a WR broke his ankle in game 3 or a RB lost 2 pro bowl offensive linemen early in the season, there's no need for a detailed discussion as to why the player didn't live up to preseason expectations. But to the extent we can better learn how the good calls are made and the mistakes that lead to bad calls, that helps us improve our fantasy game.

 

[griff321]

I'm about to do a 16 team dynasty startup draft in a week and I'd kill for some analysis! At the very least I'd really like to see some updated rankings. Kinda disheartening when the majority of the staff hasn't done a dynasty ranking this year.

I guess I expected this site to be more on board with the fantasy football 365 days a year crowd then it is.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

"We were right on XXX because we were lucky and our predictions came true.""We were wrong on XXX because what we predicted didn't happen..."That about sums it up. Fantasy Football projections are an attempt to predict the future... nothing more. I'd rather they continue to provide as much information/insight as possible for 2011 than spend any energy pouring over their 100000000000000 predictions from last year.

a year in review article isn't "pouring over the years' predictions". I'm not sure why you think they're the same.

Thanks hornet.Agreed - it's way more than poring over predictions. It's trying to see what we learned from last year with the singular focus of applying it forward to the upcoming year. It's not an easy to do right which is honestly, why we haven't tackled it yet. I agree for sure it has value though and it's something we'll look at doing.J

Exactly, Joe! It's the same idea as that old saying -- "Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day; teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime." I'd love to read analysis on FBG's hits as well as misses, especially if possible where FBG's rankings were noticeably different from the mainstream. For the great calls they made that most folks missed, what is it that you guys saw that others didn't see that led you to your conclusion? For the misses -- what in retrospect do you think you were overlooking, misinterpreting, giving too much weight to, etc.? Now obviously there are a lot of calls that don't need explanation ... if a WR broke his ankle in game 3 or a RB lost 2 pro bowl offensive linemen early in the season, there's no need for a detailed discussion as to why the player didn't live up to preseason expectations. But to the extent we can better learn how the good calls are made and the mistakes that lead to bad calls, that helps us improve our fantasy game.

this....and I'd love to see FBG's provide the subscribers with an application (similiar to the VBD or DD application) that allows us to plug in our scoring systems and see where everybody actually ended up finishing this last year.....we could then take this and compare it to the one we had prior to our drafts and very quickly and easily see where we and FBG hit and miss back in late August/September....would be great to see where guys ended up and where we should have zigged instead of zagged in our drafts....plus an application like this would allow those of us entering new leagues next year to plug in the scoring system of the new league we are going to enter and see how guys would have finshed last year under that scoring system.....great tool not only for analyzing how things went last year, but also to prepare for next year.....

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If y'all don't think it's too long after the season, I'm happy to do another series like that in the next week or two

 

[Loomba]

What I would love to see someone do is take the preseason rankings that each major website or individual prognosticator puts out and do some sort of analysis of how close the season ending stats match to the predictions. For example, if you said RB "X" would finish #10 overall and was within 2 spots (i.e. #8 to #12), you give yourself a point. Any prediction outside that range gets you no points.

You would have to ignore players that got injured but I think there would be some value to seeing which website/person was the most accurate -- and it would be really valuable to see if someone/website is consistently better than the rest.

Of course, not sure any prognosticators, other than the few that did well would want to do the work to only demonstrate they are probably not a lot better than a monkey at a typewriter...

Would need an independent source to do this. You probably could sell the results for a few $$. I know I would pay a few bucks to know who, if anyone, is consistently better than the pack.

Any takers?

 

[Chimp Magnet]

What I would love to see someone do is take the preseason rankings that each major website or individual prognosticator puts out and do some sort of analysis of how close the season ending stats match to the predictions. For example, if you said RB "X" would finish #10 overall and was within 2 spots (i.e. #8 to #12), you give yourself a point. Any prediction outside that range gets you no points. You would have to ignore players that got injured but I think there would be some value to seeing which website/person was the most accurate -- and it would be really valuable to see if someone/website is consistently better than the rest.Of course, not sure any prognosticators, other than the few that did well would want to do the work to only demonstrate they are probably not a lot better than a monkey at a typewriter...Would need an independent source to do this. You probably could sell the results for a few $$. I know I would pay a few bucks to know who, if anyone, is consistently better than the pack.Any takers?

Is this what you're looking for?http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/fantasy-football-accuracy-rankings-for-2010/

 

[Imagine]

If y'all don't think it's too long after the season, I'm happy to do another series like that in the next week or two

Sigmund, I love your stuff. If you were willing to put these together again, I know the folks here would be poring over them.

 

[Imagine]

If y'all don't think it's too long after the season, I'm happy to do another series like that in the next week or two

Sigmund, I love your stuff. If you were willing to put these together again, I know the folks here would be poring over them.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

If y'all don't think it's too long after the season, I'm happy to do another series like that in the next week or two