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A few years back there was a thread requesting FBGs make the standard scoring for content be 6 pts. I emailed MFL at the time and they responded with the percentages of their leagues that use the two different scoring systems. I don't recall the exact numbers, but 6 pt were more numerous. I want to say they had a 5% edge or so, but it's been 4+ years probably, I'm not sure now. I imagine they have an even bigger lead now.
I recall the biggest surprise in the MFL stats was how many leagues were using something other than 4 or 6. I thought 4 and 6 pt leagues would be like 90%, but I want to say they were more like 60%-65% of all leagues.
I think 4 points really devalues the QB position in fantasy. and let's be honest a great QB can make up for a lot in the real NFL. i like bonus for distance scoring as well.my league all td's under 40 yds 6 pts all tds's over 40 yds 9 ptsbeen this way for 15 yrs
6 points is how they score it in the NFL. 6 points is how we score it too. We're not big fans of socialism so we don't penalize QB's that do well.
The intent of 4 points for passing TD's is neither arbitrary or stupid. The intent is to make the QB/RB/WR positions be more equivalent in the pointsthat they score. This makes it more interesting for draft strategy when you may be just as likely to take a QB, RB, or WR in the first round. Ithink when you give 6 points for passing TD's then the QB's clearly score more than RB's and WR's, and it is almost crucial that you get a toppasser early in the draft. Since there are not 12 top passers, some teams get screwed.4 points per passing TD gives more options to build a good team even if you have a low first round draft pick.
No QB ever crossed the goal line while throwing a TD pass.
The theory is flawed however due to supply and demand of QBs vs S/D of RBs and WRs. However a thorough explanation of the effect of supply and demand will take this thread way too far off topic. So I will just agree with Instinctive that 4 points is stupid
No QB is credited with 6 pts for throwing a TD pass in the NFL. The receiver, on the other hand, gets 6 pts for his team. The last time I looked the NFL didn't award 12 pts for a passing TD.
but it could happen....
The topic is 6 vs 4 point passing TDs and why leagues have theirs set each way so it's not far off at all if you ask me. I agree with the guy you quoted and prefer 4 point passing TDs so would like to hear why you think it's a flawed argument to say people not able to get a top QB are at a disadvantage. Obviously 12 QBs aren't going picks 1-12 so everyone has a shot if they value a QB that high, but I agree with him in that it balances the draft more and doesn't put such a premium on getting one...I could be way off base since I prefer 4 pts, but that's just my experience.
Not within the rules.
So we shouldn't credit QBs any points in fantasy leagues for TDs?
...and then it would have to be reviewed. And Gruden would complain about how reviewing it would add 30 minutes to the game.
You're begging the question; in 6 point TD leagues, there are still more RBs and WRs taken in the first two rounds than QBs.
Not the point. I am fine with awarding 3, 4, 6 or anything else you want for a passing TD. Just dont use the NFL as a justification for awarding 6. The NFL awards 0.
Steve Young did.
Your intellect is staggering. I say this because there is no way I can refute the bolded above because there is no context to the statement. Well played, sir.
ahhh mr. nfl league guy. how do you score punts?
How? Brad Johnson actually threw a TD to himself.
He didn't get 12 points.
So did Young.
it goes both ways - last year in my 6pt league Freeman was more valuable than Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice. I play in a 4pt and 6pt league - both PPR. The breakdown of top 20 by position:4pt - QB 6RB 8WR 66pt - QB 9RB 6WR 5based on last year you could argue the 4pt passing TD better spreads the top talent around by position. I don't think either is that much better than the other - they're just different.
No, he wasn't. Josh Freeman had 27 VBD points last year, compared to 95 for Chris Johnson, 104 for Peterson, and 76 for Rice. (That's PFR scoring, but whatever your scoring is, Freeman's VBD total was lower.) That's why this year, Johnson, Peterson, and Rice are all being selected ahead of Josh Freeman in every draft. Go read a VBD article and come back when you understand what "valuable" means.
The problem did get very annoyed.
Lighten up Francis - I misinterpreted what the poster meant. Actually, maybe I didn't as I can't think of any scoring system that would have Mike Turner as a higher VBD than Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady - unless a rushing TD was worth 10 points and a passing TD worth 3 - but it certainly would not result just from 4 pt passing TDs.
In my 6pt pass TD draft this past weekend, those three RBs went in Rd 1, while Freeman went in Rd 10. The difference is made in elite QB valuation... Vick, Rodgers, and Brady went Rd 1. As they should!... 4 pts per TD pass is an outdated broken scoring system IMHO.
Could have sworn he did it in 93-94, although I was smoking a lot of herb back then.
