Except they showed last year in Foxborough that they do have a chance. If they can have the Patriots on the ropes the entire game (and easily could've won if not for a couple of flukey plays) I feel safe in saying that they could have a chance against the likes of the Chiefs and Raiders.They didn't do it without Aaron Rodgers, and if you think they have a shot with Matt Flynn your smoking some good ####! My prediction was that Rodgers goes down for the remainder of the regular season at that Detroit game. If that happens then it's not a far fetched idea that they lose 5 of their last 6 games. If Rodgers doesn't get hurt then of course they wont lose 5 of their last 6. It was a bold prediction, that's all. I understand that they did it with a lot of injuries last season but Aaron Rodgers isn't a replaceable player. They can't sign someone off of the street, at that position, and expect to keep things going. IF Rodgers goes down then they have NO chance that's all I'm saying. The Lions knocked him out of the game last year IIRC and the Lions defense is better this year. Now the chances of this all happening is slim but it's still just a fun little prediction.Hahaha, good grief! Do you actually watch football? The packers going undefeated is unlikely, but there is no chance in hell they lose 5 of 6 against any group of teams in the NFL. When comparing the 2011 team to the 2010 team, we need to remember that literally 1/3 of the 2010 team went to the IR. They were signing street free agents to field a team at one point. The point when some of the most regrettable losses happened. Furthermore, the Pack didn't have a semblance of a running threat, as Grant was out and Starks was still getting acclimated from his stint on the PUP list. This is not the 2010 team, it's a lot healthier.11/24 @ Detroit Lions (lose)12/4 @ New York Giants (lose)12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders (lose) 12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs 12/25 vs. Chicago Bears (lose) 1/1 vs. Detroit Lions (lose)They will be unbeaten until Thanksgiving. Then they lose to the Lions where Rodgers will receive a severe concussion and he will miss the rest of the regular season. They lose 5 of the last 6 but still finish 11-5 and get to the NFC Championship game.Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.==========================9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-349/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-239/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-1710/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-2310/9 @ Atlanta Falcons10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings-BYE-11/6 @ San Diego Chargers11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings 11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers11/24 @ Detroit Lions12/4 @ New York Giants12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders 12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs 12/25 vs. Chicago Bears 1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
There are clear areas of improvement for the Pack this year, but I feel confident that these will be addressed. Even with the loss of Collins, the secondary isn't nearly as bad as the numbers would indicate. McCarthy has also committed to not 'let up on a lead', a tendency that caused problems in the past. We saw this new mentality last week against Denver, as Rodgers continued to put up points Tecmo Bowl style. This new mentality is encouraging, though I doubt we'll see the 2nd teamers finishing most games, like they did against Denver. There aren't a lot of teams that can outscore the Packers, and teams that have the potential (NO), don't have the D the Packers do.
All that said, I would hazard a guess of 14-2 for the season. One loss against a home NFC North team, probably Detroit, a one loss against where the pack make too many mistakes against a team capable of putting up a lot of points, maybe SD or NY. Of course, I wouldn't be shocked to see them go undefeated either.
I addressed this earlier.Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.
Doesn't make it any less hard to believe. When your team is reliant on a QB on fire you are one injury away from a couple of losses. Especially when that D is one of the worst in the league at stopping the pass. Any given sunday isn't just a slogan. History (and survivor pools) are littered with heavy road favorites who don't win in hostile environments. Especially when facing a pass rush as nasty as the gmen.Plus I doubt they will even be favored in detroit on turkey day.I addressed this earlier.Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.
Likelihood of 4-0 NFL teams (based on Vegas odds for first 4 games)
Packers: 35% Lions: 9%
Odds of going 16-0? (based on Vegas odds for next 12 games)
Lions: 2,950 to 1 against
Packers: 27 to 1 against
(Green Bay is currently favored in every remaining game)
Its tough to really even say if the G-men can do it....but any given Sunday, right?I just dont see if they can get passed a team on Turkey Day that is waiting to show the Pack whats up at home in front of a crowd will be so insane to put into words.Doesn't make it any less hard to believe. When your team is reliant on a QB on fire you are one injury away from a couple of losses. Especially when that D is one of the worst in the league at stopping the pass. Any given sunday isn't just a slogan. History (and survivor pools) are littered with heavy road favorites who don't win in hostile environments. Especially when facing a pass rush as nasty as the gmen.Plus I doubt they will even be favored in detroit on turkey day.I addressed this earlier.Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.
Seattle +9.5NYJ +7.5On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
Not a bad bet. It's worth pointing out that Aaron Rodgers has only lost once in his last 16 games (not counting 1/2 game at Det), and that loss did come in Atlanta on November 28th. It was kind of a weird game. Atlanta wisely played clock management really well and as a result the Packers only had seven real possessions. The Packers still racked up 418 yards, but Rodgers fumbled at the goal line one drive, and they turned it over on downs once as well. Despite all that Rodgers tied the game with only 56 seconds to play, but the Packers let the Falcons return it to the 36 and committed a face mask penalty which put the ball on the packers 49. A few dinks and dunks, and voila, game winning field goal.Personally, I think the Packers are going to torch the Falcons tomorrow.I think the Falcons will beat them tomorrow night. The Packers are still the class of the NFL right now, but the Falcons usually play really well at home, so I think they'll find a way to get it done tomorrow night. On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
I don't think so. Not this week.The Bears played them close too but Rodgers is much better than last year as odd as that sounds. He is more confident and comfortable.He has a look like this is almost too easy. Weird thing is if Jones or Driver get hurt the team gets better when Cobb plays more. Remember last year against the Falcons Finley and Grant were both hurt. I think the Lions beating them is more realistic. The only other tough games may be the Chargers and Raiders. I don't see them unbeaten but don't see a lot of tough weeks if they stay healthy.I think the Falcons will beat them tomorrow night. The Packers are still the class of the NFL right now, but the Falcons usually play really well at home, so I think they'll find a way to get it done tomorrow night. On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
I addressed this earlier.Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.
Really? This is "addressing this?" While it technically is addressing it the depth of logic here is about at the second grade level, though in fairness this is a packers thread.The first three are certainly possible, but the Giants are a very flawed 3-1 team. Unless Rodgers throws 4 picks, they win that game.12-4 team.Losses at Det, SD, ATL and maybe NY.
You're a weird dude.Really? This is "addressing this?" While it technically is addressing it this is about second grade level work.I addressed this earlier.Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.
Whilst this is true, it doesn't make the argument any stronger.You're a weird dude.Really? This is "addressing this?" While it technically is addressing it this is about second grade level work.I addressed this earlier.Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.
There is no "argument"... you think the Giants have a shot to beat the Packers. I respectfully disagree.Can we move on?Whilst this is true, it doesn't make the argument any stronger.You're a weird dude.Really? This is "addressing this?" While it technically is addressing it this is about second grade level work.I addressed this earlier.Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.
My guess is that the Packers lose before the Lions do

why would you exclude that? Just curious.Not a bad bet. It's worth pointing out that Aaron Rodgers has only lost once in his last 16 games (not counting 1/2 game at Det), and that loss did come in Atlanta on November 28th. It was kind of a weird game. Atlanta wisely played clock management really well and as a result the Packers only had seven real possessions. The Packers still racked up 418 yards, but Rodgers fumbled at the goal line one drive, and they turned it over on downs once as well. Despite all that Rodgers tied the game with only 56 seconds to play, but the Packers let the Falcons return it to the 36 and committed a face mask penalty which put the ball on the packers 49. A few dinks and dunks, and voila, game winning field goal.I think the Falcons will beat them tomorrow night. The Packers are still the class of the NFL right now, but the Falcons usually play really well at home, so I think they'll find a way to get it done tomorrow night.
On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
Personally, I think the Packers are going to torch the Falcons tomorrow.
Just pointing out that the Packers have won nearly a seasons worth of consecutive games where he started and finished the game. When assessing Rodgers success with the Packers it seems to make sense to me to take special consideration for games where the best player on the team was missing for half the game. I understand why that might not sit well with you though.why would you exclude that? Just curious.Not a bad bet. It's worth pointing out that Aaron Rodgers has only lost once in his last 16 games (not counting 1/2 game at Det), and that loss did come in Atlanta on November 28th. It was kind of a weird game. Atlanta wisely played clock management really well and as a result the Packers only had seven real possessions. The Packers still racked up 418 yards, but Rodgers fumbled at the goal line one drive, and they turned it over on downs once as well. Despite all that Rodgers tied the game with only 56 seconds to play, but the Packers let the Falcons return it to the 36 and committed a face mask penalty which put the ball on the packers 49. A few dinks and dunks, and voila, game winning field goal.I think the Falcons will beat them tomorrow night. The Packers are still the class of the NFL right now, but the Falcons usually play really well at home, so I think they'll find a way to get it done tomorrow night.
On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
Personally, I think the Packers are going to torch the Falcons tomorrow.
I understand he wasn't on the field for half of the game but that was because of the team he was playing. So I don't quite understand your point. If he got a call at halftime that someone was in a car accident or his girl was in labor or something like that I could understand your omission.Just pointing out that the Packers have won nearly a seasons worth of consecutive games where he started and finished the game. When assessing Rodgers success with the Packers it seems to make sense to me to take special consideration for games where the best player on the team was missing for half the game. I understand why that might not sit well with you though.why would you exclude that? Just curious.Not a bad bet. It's worth pointing out that Aaron Rodgers has only lost once in his last 16 games (not counting 1/2 game at Det), and that loss did come in Atlanta on November 28th. It was kind of a weird game. Atlanta wisely played clock management really well and as a result the Packers only had seven real possessions. The Packers still racked up 418 yards, but Rodgers fumbled at the goal line one drive, and they turned it over on downs once as well. Despite all that Rodgers tied the game with only 56 seconds to play, but the Packers let the Falcons return it to the 36 and committed a face mask penalty which put the ball on the packers 49. A few dinks and dunks, and voila, game winning field goal.I think the Falcons will beat them tomorrow night. The Packers are still the class of the NFL right now, but the Falcons usually play really well at home, so I think they'll find a way to get it done tomorrow night.
On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
Personally, I think the Packers are going to torch the Falcons tomorrow.
I guess I could say it like this... Would you consider the Bears (Jay Cutler) loss to the Packers in the NFC Championship game not a real loss cause he didn't finish the game?I understand he wasn't on the field for half of the game but that was because of the team he was playing. So I don't quite understand your point. If he got a call at halftime that someone was in a car accident or his girl was in labor or something like that I could understand your omission.Just pointing out that the Packers have won nearly a seasons worth of consecutive games where he started and finished the game. When assessing Rodgers success with the Packers it seems to make sense to me to take special consideration for games where the best player on the team was missing for half the game. I understand why that might not sit well with you though.why would you exclude that? Just curious.Not a bad bet. It's worth pointing out that Aaron Rodgers has only lost once in his last 16 games (not counting 1/2 game at Det), and that loss did come in Atlanta on November 28th. It was kind of a weird game. Atlanta wisely played clock management really well and as a result the Packers only had seven real possessions. The Packers still racked up 418 yards, but Rodgers fumbled at the goal line one drive, and they turned it over on downs once as well. Despite all that Rodgers tied the game with only 56 seconds to play, but the Packers let the Falcons return it to the 36 and committed a face mask penalty which put the ball on the packers 49. A few dinks and dunks, and voila, game winning field goal.I think the Falcons will beat them tomorrow night. The Packers are still the class of the NFL right now, but the Falcons usually play really well at home, so I think they'll find a way to get it done tomorrow night.
On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
Personally, I think the Packers are going to torch the Falcons tomorrow.
I hope you're not begin intentionally obtuse. My point is simple: over the past fifteen games the only way any team has been able to beat Rodgers is by knocking him out of the game. So I guess if Rodgers gets knocked out of the game tonight the Falcons have a shot.I understand he wasn't on the field for half of the game but that was because of the team he was playing. So I don't quite understand your point. If he got a call at halftime that someone was in a car accident or his girl was in labor or something like that I could understand your omission.Just pointing out that the Packers have won nearly a seasons worth of consecutive games where he started and finished the game. When assessing Rodgers success with the Packers it seems to make sense to me to take special consideration for games where the best player on the team was missing for half the game. I understand why that might not sit well with you though.why would you exclude that? Just curious.Not a bad bet. It's worth pointing out that Aaron Rodgers has only lost once in his last 16 games (not counting 1/2 game at Det), and that loss did come in Atlanta on November 28th. It was kind of a weird game. Atlanta wisely played clock management really well and as a result the Packers only had seven real possessions. The Packers still racked up 418 yards, but Rodgers fumbled at the goal line one drive, and they turned it over on downs once as well. Despite all that Rodgers tied the game with only 56 seconds to play, but the Packers let the Falcons return it to the 36 and committed a face mask penalty which put the ball on the packers 49. A few dinks and dunks, and voila, game winning field goal.I think the Falcons will beat them tomorrow night. The Packers are still the class of the NFL right now, but the Falcons usually play really well at home, so I think they'll find a way to get it done tomorrow night.
On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
Personally, I think the Packers are going to torch the Falcons tomorrow.
Is it still hard to believe?Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.
BTW, I called Seattle winning outright today in Otis's FFA thread. THAT's how bad the Giants are.good call. I went down in flames with the masses. Never will I rely on the G Men for anything again.Is it still hard to believe?Hard to believe the OP doesn't include the Giants at home as 'possible' loss.BTW, I called Seattle winning outright today in Otis's FFA thread. THAT's how bad the Giants are.

Someone needs to remind Matty the games are four quarters.'ponchsox said:Matty Ice and the Falcons don't think so.

You have to play a near-flawless game to beat this team.So many weapons... they just come at you in waves.
I am a blind, drooling homer, but man, they are never out of a game.Rodgers nearly never makes mistakes.This D has its flaws, but the run D looks stout. Just going to enjoy this ride.Oof. Well, it looked good early, but the Packers are just too good right now.I think the Falcons will beat them tomorrow night. The Packers are still the class of the NFL right now, but the Falcons usually play really well at home, so I think they'll find a way to get it done tomorrow night. On a related note, I think the Falcons getting 5 1/2 points at home is the play of the weekend.
I would pay to see Favre's reaction to a perfect season. Luckily the certain mix of insecurity and envy beneath a thin veneer of feigned indifference and pride would be available for mass consumption on ESPN. Favre should decline doing interviews, but he won't. Please make this happen, Pack!If the Packers do go 16-0, Favre will be shocked that Rodgers didn't do it sooner![]()
Still don't think they go 16-0. It takes not only an amazing team, but lots of luck to win EVERY game in a season. They'll have a target on their back as they get deeper in the season undefeated and will act as a statement game for every opponent. I still think the Packers are good enough to beat every team in the league, playing their hardest in a statement game, but undefeated is a different story. Even if you give the Packers a 90% chance of winning every game for the rest of the season, that's only a 31% chance that they'll win the next 11.So, now that we are guaranteed to go 7-0, I imagine the 16-0 talk will pick up a lot during our bye week.
I would say his receivers did moreso than Matty Ice. Though that feet first slide right before the 1st down marker was bad.The gulf in talent between a pretty good QB and a great one was evident in this game. I think we as Packer fans are taking this run of talent at QB for granted. Its funny because when you watched the game last night you were just waiting for Rodgers to succumb to the pressure. He obviously didn't. But as soon as the chips got down, Matty Ice folded right up.
Inexcusable. That horrible sack he took on first down deep in Packers territory was atrocious as well. Next play was the forced pass to Tony G. that was batted up in the air and intercepted.I would say his receivers did moreso than Matty Ice. Though that feet first slide right before the 1st down marker was bad.The gulf in talent between a pretty good QB and a great one was evident in this game. I think we as Packer fans are taking this run of talent at QB for granted. Its funny because when you watched the game last night you were just waiting for Rodgers to succumb to the pressure. He obviously didn't. But as soon as the chips got down, Matty Ice folded right up.
Stop using math on us, this is the Shark Pool. Unsubstantiated facts and outrageous opinions only please...Still don't think they go 16-0. It takes not only an amazing team, but lots of luck to win EVERY game in a season. They'll have a target on their back as they get deeper in the season undefeated and will act as a statement game for every opponent. I still think the Packers are good enough to beat every team in the league, playing their hardest in a statement game, but undefeated is a different story. Even if you give the Packers a 90% chance of winning every game for the rest of the season, that's only a 31% chance that they'll win the next 11.So, now that we are guaranteed to go 7-0, I imagine the 16-0 talk will pick up a lot during our bye week.
I think you mean Clifton. He looked like he was in pretty significant pain, and pretty pissed off about it. Not a doctor, but I would be really surprised to see him before the bye. Not sure how close Bulaga is. Good news is it's the Rams at home next week. I do think the road trip to Minny could get interesting in a way I don't want it to be if we show up without our starting tackles.How do you defend perfect passes play after play? They could plug my grandma in at WR1 and she'd go 70 for 1k and 10 tds.Any word on the Tauscher yet? Resting for the playoffs and injuries are the only thing I could see derail them for a game or two. I'm not even sure injuries slow them down much. It just has the feeling of a magical season for the pack where everything goes right. Enjoy the ride. ###########
Yup I mean Clifton.Stop worrying. You know this team just has that feel about them, hell I'd go so far as to say this is the real dream team this season. Do nothing other than enjoying the show.I hate Wisconsin so much right now.I think you mean Clifton. He looked like he was in pretty significant pain, and pretty pissed off about it. Not a doctor, but I would be really surprised to see him before the bye. Not sure how close Bulaga is. Good news is it's the Rams at home next week. I do think the road trip to Minny could get interesting in a way I don't want it to be if we show up without our starting tackles.How do you defend perfect passes play after play? They could plug my grandma in at WR1 and she'd go 70 for 1k and 10 tds.Any word on the Tauscher yet? Resting for the playoffs and injuries are the only thing I could see derail them for a game or two. I'm not even sure injuries slow them down much. It just has the feeling of a magical season for the pack where everything goes right. Enjoy the ride. ###########
Get to the QB via corner blitz. It will take a team with a very good defensive line. I hate to say this, but Detroit is built to beat Green Bay right now. I'm not a Detroit fan, but it really reminds me of Ron Wolf building Green Bay to beat Minnesota (Randy Moss et al) 10+ years ago. Detroit is a bit overrated at 4-0, but they have the horses to split their matchup with the Pack this year. I think they will. Any talk of an undefeated season needs to wait until Thanksgiving at the earliest. Hell, I think looking past the Vikings in 2 weeks is a mistake.![]()
How do you defend perfect passes play after play? They could plug my grandma in at WR1 and she'd go 70 for 1k and 10 tds.
Any word on the Tauscher yet? Resting for the playoffs and injuries are the only thing I could see derail them for a game or two. I'm not even sure injuries slow them down much. It just has the feeling of a magical season for the pack where everything goes right.
Enjoy the ride. ###########
Dare to dream. In reality, however the Vikings finally had the ball bouncing their way yesterday. The offense is still not executing and it is highly doubtfull that our secondary can contain Rodgers for any significant time. McNabb is still inaccurate as ever and the Vikings will be lucky not to be blown out.Get to the QB via corner blitz. It will take a team with a very good defensive line. I hate to say this, but Detroit is built to beat Green Bay right now. I'm not a Detroit fan, but it really reminds me of Ron Wolf building Green Bay to beat Minnesota (Randy Moss et al) 10+ years ago. Detroit is a bit overrated at 4-0, but they have the horses to split their matchup with the Pack this year. I think they will. Any talk of an undefeated season needs to wait until Thanksgiving at the earliest. Hell, I think looking past the Vikings in 2 weeks is a mistake.![]()
How do you defend perfect passes play after play? They could plug my grandma in at WR1 and she'd go 70 for 1k and 10 tds.
Any word on the Tauscher yet? Resting for the playoffs and injuries are the only thing I could see derail them for a game or two. I'm not even sure injuries slow them down much. It just has the feeling of a magical season for the pack where everything goes right.
Enjoy the ride. ###########
HAHAHA, true, my bad.Stop using math on us, this is the Shark Pool. Unsubstantiated facts and outrageous opinions only please...Still don't think they go 16-0. It takes not only an amazing team, but lots of luck to win EVERY game in a season. They'll have a target on their back as they get deeper in the season undefeated and will act as a statement game for every opponent. I still think the Packers are good enough to beat every team in the league, playing their hardest in a statement game, but undefeated is a different story. Even if you give the Packers a 90% chance of winning every game for the rest of the season, that's only a 31% chance that they'll win the next 11.So, now that we are guaranteed to go 7-0, I imagine the 16-0 talk will pick up a lot during our bye week.