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Doctor violently dragged from full United flight (1 Viewer)

3C's said:
Seeing the "I have to go home, I have to go home, I have to go home" video...don't think I'd want him as my doctor. Coo Coo!

And poorly handled by United and security. Terrible. Between this and Delta's issues it's been a bad week for airlines.
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This post #6 should have ended the thread.

 
lod001 said:
Actually the trespassing part was said on the news this morning (And not on Fox news). You lose. 
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So you're a sheeple who believes everything MSM reports.  Good luck with that.  Not going to respond to you as I don't argue with idiots.  Welcome to my ignore list.

 
chet said:
So you're a sheeple who believes everything MSM reports.  Good luck with that.  Not going to respond to you as I don't argue with idiots.  Welcome to my ignore list.
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:lmao:  I win again.  I kicked your ### up and down the aisle and it was easy.

chet: :cry: I'm taking my ball and running home because I got beat up.

 
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Short Corner said:
If he had a boarding pass he wasn't trespassing.
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Once they asked him to leave and he refused, he was trespassing. It's no different that when you see guys hauled out at a sporting event. You are asked to leave first and then you get a beat down if you refuse.

 
It would have been a lot cheaper for United to simply book its pilots/staff on a different airline, if they were required to be in Louisville the next day.  

 
lod001 said:
Actually the trespassing part was said on the news this morning (And not on Fox news). You lose. 

The fact is the plane is United's property. They can refund the money and refuse service, it's as simple as that. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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There's a difference between being right, and being right. 

You may be the former, where you might be right that United could have him booted off (this is a complicated legal issue that isn't very clear) and you might be right that this guy made some moronic decisions back in 2003, but this doesn't make you anywhere close to right about the situation and placing all blame on the passenger.  Also, Chet didn't appear to be "talking about" much, other than just calling you an idiot. :shrug:

 
Murph said:
How has LOD never won the tournament? Never too early to start making the case for next year I guess.
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Nice - the next step for Lefties after traditional insults don't work - the 7th grade mean girl hate list tournament.   :lol:

 
I'm enjoying some of the responses to the garbage journalism attacking the doctor.

But I'm also kinda disappointed that nobody is gone with the obvious "the ******** is not the issue here, Dude" retort.

 
Sinn Fein said:
It would have been a lot cheaper for United to simply book its pilots/staff on a different airline, if they were required to be in Louisville the next day.  
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Right.  I think there's even some agreement that let's them do this.  I have a buddy that works for American Airlines and he flies other airlines all the time if it works better for scheduling.

I think we just have to assume there simply was no other practical way to get this crew to where they apparently needed to be.  I mean, United can't be that stupid, can they?  

 
TobiasFunke said:
I'm enjoying some of the responses to the garbage journalism attacking the doctor.

But I'm also kinda disappointed that nobody is gone with the obvious "the ******** is not the issue here, Dude" retort.
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OMG that's ####### brilliant.  I'm embarrassed with myself for not thinking of it. 

ETA: seriously, I'm jumping on facebook right now just to see if I have some knucklehead friend blaming the passenger because he's got a 2003 conviction and I can use this!

 
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Zow said:
Right.  I think there's even some agreement that let's them do this.  I have a buddy that works for American Airlines and he flies other airlines all the time if it works better for scheduling.

I think we just have to assume there simply was no other practical way to get this crew to where they apparently needed to be.  I mean, United can't be that stupid, can they?  
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If only they knew ahead of time that the crew would need to be there at that time...

 
lod001 said:
Actually the trespassing part was said on the news this morning (And not on Fox news). You lose. 
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I've read contradicting comments. Bottom line is this is not an open and shut case. If I were betting I'd say it goes the other way. We'll see.

lod001 said:
The fact is the plane is United's property. They can refund the money and refuse service, it's as simple as that. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Same as the above meaning I don't think it's quite that simple (esp given the circumstances of this event). It certainly isn't "as simple as that" or UA wouldn't be dealing with this s**t storm.

Regardless, what UA can do and what they should do are completely different discussions. Let me ask you a question. In hind sight do you think knowing the way this played out UA would do things differently? This was completely avoidable and given the PR black eye (and IMO likely out of court settlement) what UA could and couldn't do from a legal POV is moot. Common sense was chucked out the window because damn it...they had a policy in place and they thought they had the right to toss this guy out. Congrats...worked out really well.

 
Phil Elliott said:
Was on a Delta (NWA) flight taking off at Newark. Strong crosswinds so airline asked for 14 passengers to get off to make plane lighter ( they offered compensation). They leave. About 15 min later they all come back on the plane. Pilot says we are going to go to end of run way and burn off x pounds of fuel for 20 minutes instead. A pilot was sitting next to me, takes out a pen and starts crunching some numbers...then says "yes we should be ok".  :mellow:
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Someone explain what this means.  How does the weight of 14 people or 20 minutes of fuel make a difference compared to the total weight of a plane and if it's really that close, how is it safe to takeoff?  

I would've volunteered out of sheer terror.

 
Zow said:
There's a difference between being right, and being right. 

You may be the former, where you might be right that United could have him booted off (this is a complicated legal issue that isn't very clear) and you might be right that this guy made some moronic decisions back in 2003, but this doesn't make you anywhere close to right about the situation and placing all blame on the passenger.  Also, Chet didn't appear to be "talking about" much, other than just calling you an idiot. :shrug:
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:goodposting: Bingo.

 
Henry Ford said:
So he's under supervision from the medical board.  Yeah, I'd imagine it is pretty important that he make it back in time for his rounds at the hospital (and his supervision.)
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The board’s probe into the criminal charges found that Dao became sexually interested in a male patient,

This explains the screaming like a woman..

 
Scoresman said:
Someone explain what this means.  How does the weight of 14 people or 20 minutes of fuel make a difference compared to the total weight of a plane and if it's really that close, how is it safe to takeoff?  

I would've volunteered out of sheer terror.
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I would have pulled the emergeny slide and ran off. 

 
lod001 said:
There was no assault. He was trespassing once he refused to give up the seat and they ####ed his as up like they should have. He's an idiot that got what was coming to him.
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Millions of dollars?

 
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There is sometimes a huge difference between what is legally allowed and what is just the "right thing to do".  This company chose to put its small print ahead of proper customer service and are stubbornly sticking by it.  Stupid move in my opinion- and stupid move by the CEO for taking the stance that he is. I hope that United is foolish enough to try to charge this passenger with trespassing to further paint themselves in the bad light that they deserve. Frankly- I could care less about the customers past. He paid for his ticket, he got a boarding pass with a confirmation number,  all indications are that he was not acting a fool in any way until the airline tried to unfairly kick him off of a flight for no good reason (other than them being too cheap to charter transportation for their own employees).

 
Buzzbait said:
I've read contradicting comments. Bottom line is this is not an open and shut case. If I were betting I'd say it goes the other way. We'll see.

Same as the above meaning I don't think it's quite that simple (esp given the circumstances of this event). It certainly isn't "as simple as that" or UA wouldn't be dealing with this s**t storm.

Regardless, what UA can do and what they should do are completely different discussions. Let me ask you a question. In hind sight do you think knowing the way this played out UA would do things differently? This was completely avoidable and given the PR black eye (and IMO likely out of court settlement) what UA could and couldn't do from a legal POV is moot. Common sense was chucked out the window because damn it...they had a policy in place and they thought they had the right to toss this guy out. Congrats...worked out really well.
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I don't see it ending any way but the way it did unless someone else volunteered to leave at that time. He was picked randomly. He didn't want to leave. They had to, at that point, forcibly remove him. What are they to do? "Ok this guy doesn't want to leave, we are redrawing and one of you is leaving." The worst thing they did was do it because their own people were taking the seats. That part I do find ridiculous.

 
Someone should save a link to this page of the thread and set it aside next time someone proposes a politics forum.  This is why it would never work.

 
So you get cracked in the head, someone gets it on video, the video goes viral, and that gives TMZ the ok to scour your personal history for anything salacious and then publish it? Total BS.

 
lod001 said:
We will see. I seriously doubt it. They will pay their lawyers millions not to pay him millions. If they lose, there are 100's more idiots lining up hoping they get picked so they can follow this guy's lead.
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He's gonna clean up. It won't ever even get to court, they'll pay him for this to eventually die. 

 
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