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Does Roethlisberger have a big game against Cleveland? (1 Viewer)

bocksheesh

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Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.

Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?

 
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.4 rush, 15 yards
 
Burning Sensation said:
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
 
I think he does well for the first half and then they tone it down.

Expecting to see Carey Davis crank out some yardage in the 2nd half.

 
Big Browns fan here but I own Big Ben in my Dynasty League and I see the following stats: (23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int., 4 rush, 15 yards) to be absolutely spot on and look forward to seeing Reothlisberger excel in this new Steelers Offense.

Fantasy football makes for strange bed fellows - made a Browns fan like me root for the Steelers on some twisted level. That would have been unheard of 20 years ago.

 
Big Browns fan here but I own Big Ben in my Dynasty League and I see the following stats: (23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int., 4 rush, 15 yards) to be absolutely spot on and look forward to seeing Reothlisberger excel in this new Steelers Offense. Fantasy football makes for strange bed fellows - made a Browns fan like me root for the Steelers on some twisted level. That would have been unheard of 20 years ago.
If Big Ben can improve on his Td/Int ratio(18/23 last year) and stay healthy all year he is almost a lock for top 10 fantasy QB this year with potential near top 5.
 
Im interested in this issue because I am debating whether to start Holmes tomorrow. I have read that they will be opening the offense up this year.

I am just worried about FWP tearing the Browns a new one and PIT would then have no reason to throw the ball.

 
Im interested in this issue because I am debating whether to start Holmes tomorrow. I have read that they will be opening the offense up this year. I am just worried about FWP tearing the Browns a new one and PIT would then have no reason to throw the ball.
That's the big thing. Pittsburgh may want to pass more, but if they don't need to, why bother?I think Parker has a big game, and Ben finishes something like 13/21 for 185 and 1---Not terrible, not great.
 
Big Browns fan here but I own Big Ben in my Dynasty League and I see the following stats: (23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int., 4 rush, 15 yards) to be absolutely spot on and look forward to seeing Reothlisberger excel in this new Steelers Offense. Fantasy football makes for strange bed fellows - made a Browns fan like me root for the Steelers on some twisted level. That would have been unheard of 20 years ago.
I hope your right.I love Ben this year,have him in all my leagues.
 
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
Nope. He'll have less than 175 yards passing and no TDs. Awful play this week.
 
Burning Sensation said:
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
New center replacing sore-kneed immobile 2006 starter? Check.2006 starter and swinging gate blocker Starks moved to bench? Check.BGP pointing to "same offensive line"? Check.Ben picking apart the Clowns? Checkmate.
 
All signs point to the Steelers opening up the offense this season and giving Ben more control. Pass protection was a problem last season so Ben will now call the blocking assignments and more audibles. Whether or not it works remains to be seen.

As far as today goes, it has been raining in Cleveland and it is not supposed to taper off until kickoff so the conditions for throwing the ball may not be all that great.

 
I'm torn between Ben and Leinart. I'm going with the QB of the team I think will be throwing from behind in Leinart. When I drafted Ben I knew I'd be on the fence starting him most weeks. I'm hoping to see the "wide open" Steeler O before I need to start him.

 
Burning Sensation said:
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
The Browns last yr could not get to the qb and only recorded 28 sacks and have not made any improvements. Last yr the Browns had only 2 sacks in their first meeting against the Steelers and zero in their second. And Jerry Porter never played for the Steelers.
 
I'm thinking 225 with a TD and an Int. The Browns secondary is vastly improved over the flotsam they threw on the field last year. Add to that an improved pass rush, with Wimbley having another year under his belt.

On the flip side, I do expect Holmes to be the main beneficiary of that yardage.

 
My only concern is if Pitts gets off to an early lead with rushing and defensive TDs...

They will then likely turn to ball control for the rest of the game...

i am hoping for 250 and 2tds...

 
The Browns last yr could not get to the qb and only recorded 28 sacks and have not made any improvements.
Peek replacing the ancient McGinest is not an improvement? Robier and Sean Smith with big Ted is a alot of beef up front and should eat up more blockers and leave the LBs free to rush. Also Wimbley is a freak. With absolutely no help he was able to get 11.5 sacks as a rookie.Say hello to the Cleveland Browns turf for me Ben!
 
Big Browns fan here but I own Big Ben in my Dynasty League and I see the following stats: (23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int., 4 rush, 15 yards) to be absolutely spot on and look forward to seeing Reothlisberger excel in this new Steelers Offense. Fantasy football makes for strange bed fellows - made a Browns fan like me root for the Steelers on some twisted level. That would have been unheard of 20 years ago.
If Big Ben can improve on his Td/Int ratio(18/23 last year) and stay healthy all year he is almost a lock for top 10 fantasy QB this year with potential near top 5.
Top 5 seems like a stretch ceiling, unless Tomlin wants to try to deviate from the strategy of 2005, which is 12 of 18 for 225 and 1-2 TDs as a "good game" for Ben. I like Ben as a SOLID QB2 but a stretch QB1.
 
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
He should have a solid game........I don't have him but my concern would be if Pittsburgh were to get a sizeable lead and then start running the ball in the 2nd half.I could see Willie Parker having a big day. For Ben R to have a BIG day, Cleveland is going to have to score themselves so that Big Ben is forced into having to make some plays in the passing game. Otherwise if he doesn't score early on in the game when it's close by air.......he could have a bad fantasy week.
 
The Browns last yr could not get to the qb and only recorded 28 sacks and have not made any improvements.
Peek replacing the ancient McGinest is not an improvement? Robier and Sean Smith with big Ted is a alot of beef up front and should eat up more blockers and leave the LBs free to rush. Also Wimbley is a freak. With absolutely no help he was able to get 11.5 sacks as a rookie.Say hello to the Cleveland Browns turf for me Ben!
C Hartings playing on no knees was subpar last yr and Mahan is an upgrade. RT Starks was a turnstile and Colon beat him out and that is an upgrade. Big Ben this yr health wise is an upgrade over last yr. It is funny you belittle McGinest by calling him ancient, but you give praise to Ted Washington who is older and has been washed up for the last couple of yrs. The only factor holding back Ben this week is the rainy weather.
 
The Browns last yr could not get to the qb and only recorded 28 sacks and have not made any improvements.
Peek replacing the ancient McGinest is not an improvement? Robier and Sean Smith with big Ted is a alot of beef up front and should eat up more blockers and leave the LBs free to rush. Also Wimbley is a freak. With absolutely no help he was able to get 11.5 sacks as a rookie.Say hello to the Cleveland Browns turf for me Ben!
C Hartings playing on no knees was subpar last yr and Mahan is an upgrade. RT Starks was a turnstile and Colon beat him out and that is an upgrade. Big Ben this yr health wise is an upgrade over last yr. It is funny you belittle McGinest by calling him ancient, but you give praise to Ted Washington who is older and has been washed up for the last couple of yrs. The only factor holding back Ben this week is the rainy weather.
That's because big Ted (he's ancient as well) does his job and takes up 2 blockers and that's all he needs to do. McGinest (btw I love Mcginest but he is done) is here to rush the QB and he just can't get there anymore.Ben doesn't handle pressure well and moving to a more pass oriented offense is just going to expose him to the rush more. I don't think the Steelers are going to be able to keep Wimbley and Peek from getting to Ben from what I've seen of the Steelers so far. Ben is going to throw 2 ints at least today. Our DBs are very good and Ward will be shut down.
 
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#1 - Nobody outside of Cleveland could name one Browns defensive starter.

#2 - The Browns have had no opportunity to game-plan a brand-new offense that makes its debut today.

#3 - :moneybag:

 
Burning Sensation said:
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
:moneybag:
 
I'm starting him over Kitna this week hoping he does have a big game. I think with the new OC that he will get more opprotunities to down the field adn Holmes is looking up for the task. Plus I don't think Kitna has that good of a game this week.

 
#1 - Nobody outside of Cleveland could name one Browns defensive starter.#2 - The Browns have had no opportunity to game-plan a brand-new offense that makes its debut today.#3 - :football:
#1 if you don't know who Wimbley, Bodden and Washington are you're ######ed. Also that doesn't really matter now does it?#2 Rookie coach and a new offense, you're saying this is an advantage? riiight!#3 Steely McBeam
 
Burning Sensation said:
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.

Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.

4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
The Browns last yr could not get to the qb and only recorded 28 sacks and have not made any improvements. Last yr the Browns had only 2 sacks in their first meeting against the Steelers and zero in their second. And Jerry Porter never played for the Steelers.
Didn't improve eh?Antwan Peek had his best season of his career playing under Defensive Coordinator Ted Granthan in Houston a couple years ago when he had a half dozen sacks. The Texans switched to a 4-3 defense and the 3-4 OLB/DE Peek had no role. He was eager to sign with the Browns because he knew Granthan would get the best out of him. In limited action this preseason Peek had a sack and a strip. Reports are he is a legit pass rusher. He is starting opposite Kamerion Wimbley so pass protection is going to roll away from his side of the field. Peek takes over for the elderly and dinged up Willie McGhinnest. When healthy, McGhinnest can bring it. Backup LBs Leon Williams and Chuan Thomson both can rush the passer and Leon is expected to see the field more this year. The D-Line hasn't gotten any upgrades in pass rushing but Orpheous Roye is healthy and has some pass rush.

The other aspect that you haven't mentioned and considering your reply shows you haven't got a clue about the Browns, is the upgraded secondary and specifically in terms of coverage that the Browns will have. Last year Cleveland lost both starting CBs to IR when Daylon McCutcheon and Gary Baxter went down early in the year. Backup Lee Bodden played great but he also landed on IR which caused a cascading effect where the safeties had to cover for weak starting CBs. The benefit of those injuries was that critical depth was developed with Daven Holly and now Bodden is back healthy and Cleveland drafted a promising CB named Eric Wright and he has impressed to the point that he is a rookie starting CB. He expects to be targeted and how well he holds up will play a big part in whether or not Big Ben will be able to connect on the deep ball. The safeties are going to be free to play center field if Wright holds up and from all accounts the kid is ready for the challenge. So the Browns will have better pass coverage which means the pass rush will have more time to get to the QB.

So you would be wrong.

The Browns have improved directly by adding Peek and with the healthy return of Roye and the plays that Williams/Thompson will see and indirectly with their pass coverage which will allow more time for the pass rush to get to the QB.

 
Burning Sensation said:
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.

Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.

4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
The Browns last yr could not get to the qb and only recorded 28 sacks and have not made any improvements. Last yr the Browns had only 2 sacks in their first meeting against the Steelers and zero in their second. And Jerry Porter never played for the Steelers.
Didn't improve eh?Antwan Peek had his best season of his career playing under Defensive Coordinator Ted Granthan in Houston a couple years ago when he had a half dozen sacks. The Texans switched to a 4-3 defense and the 3-4 OLB/DE Peek had no role. He was eager to sign with the Browns because he knew Granthan would get the best out of him. In limited action this preseason Peek had a sack and a strip. Reports are he is a legit pass rusher. He is starting opposite Kamerion Wimbley so pass protection is going to roll away from his side of the field. Peek takes over for the elderly and dinged up Willie McGhinnest. When healthy, McGhinnest can bring it. Backup LBs Leon Williams and Chuan Thomson both can rush the passer and Leon is expected to see the field more this year. The D-Line hasn't gotten any upgrades in pass rushing but Orpheous Roye is healthy and has some pass rush.

The other aspect that you haven't mentioned and considering your reply shows you haven't got a clue about the Browns, is the upgraded secondary and specifically in terms of coverage that the Browns will have. Last year Cleveland lost both starting CBs to IR when Daylon McCutcheon and Gary Baxter went down early in the year. Backup Lee Bodden played great but he also landed on IR which caused a cascading effect where the safeties had to cover for weak starting CBs. The benefit of those injuries was that critical depth was developed with Daven Holly and now Bodden is back healthy and Cleveland drafted a promising CB named Eric Wright and he has impressed to the point that he is a rookie starting CB. He expects to be targeted and how well he holds up will play a big part in whether or not Big Ben will be able to connect on the deep ball. The safeties are going to be free to play center field if Wright holds up and from all accounts the kid is ready for the challenge. So the Browns will have better pass coverage which means the pass rush will have more time to get to the QB.

So you would be wrong.

The Browns have improved directly by adding Peek and with the healthy return of Roye and the plays that Williams/Thompson will see and indirectly with their pass coverage which will allow more time for the pass rush to get to the QB.
So according to your post the only improvement the Clowns have made is getting a LB who had a whole 6 sacks a few yrs ago. Classic Brownie fan perspective.
 
Pittsburgh as a team has 10 passing TDs and 10 INTs against the Browns over the last 10 games. I will say that 8 of the 10 team passing TDs came in the last 3 years. Roethlisberger in 3 games at Cleveland has only 3 passing TDs with 3 INTs.

As for rushing TDs, PIT has 11 rushing TDs against CLE in the last 5 years or 10 games. Nine of those came in the last 3 years. It will be interesting to see if this will be a low scoring game or not. If PIT wins, I foresee a 20-7 or 20-3 type of game.

 
I'm starting him over Kitna this week hoping he does have a big game. I think with the new OC that he will get more opprotunities to down the field adn Holmes is looking up for the task. Plus I don't think Kitna has that good of a game this week.
Ditto that. Same decision, same reasons. My main concern is the weather, but that nothwistanding, I think Ben does fine this game and all season.
 
Pittsburgh as a team has 10 passing TDs and 10 INTs against the Browns over the last 10 games. I will say that 8 of the 10 team passing TDs came in the last 3 years. Roethlisberger in 3 games at Cleveland has only 3 passing TDs with 3 INTs. As for rushing TDs, PIT has 11 rushing TDs against CLE in the last 5 years or 10 games. Nine of those came in the last 3 years. It will be interesting to see if this will be a low scoring game or not. If PIT wins, I foresee a 20-7 or 20-3 type of game.
Good points although historical data may not be of much help with the new open offense the Steelers are supposedly going to unveil today. However it would not surprise me if all of this talk was a smoke screen for the Browns and the Steelers pound the ball. That is what I would do -- open up the offense later when you need it.
 
Burning Sensation said:
bocksheesh said:
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.

Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.

4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
The Browns last yr could not get to the qb and only recorded 28 sacks and have not made any improvements. Last yr the Browns had only 2 sacks in their first meeting against the Steelers and zero in their second. And Jerry Porter never played for the Steelers.
Didn't improve eh?Antwan Peek had his best season of his career playing under Defensive Coordinator Ted Granthan in Houston a couple years ago when he had a half dozen sacks. The Texans switched to a 4-3 defense and the 3-4 OLB/DE Peek had no role. He was eager to sign with the Browns because he knew Granthan would get the best out of him. In limited action this preseason Peek had a sack and a strip. Reports are he is a legit pass rusher. He is starting opposite Kamerion Wimbley so pass protection is going to roll away from his side of the field. Peek takes over for the elderly and dinged up Willie McGhinnest. When healthy, McGhinnest can bring it. Backup LBs Leon Williams and Chuan Thomson both can rush the passer and Leon is expected to see the field more this year. The D-Line hasn't gotten any upgrades in pass rushing but Orpheous Roye is healthy and has some pass rush.

The other aspect that you haven't mentioned and considering your reply shows you haven't got a clue about the Browns, is the upgraded secondary and specifically in terms of coverage that the Browns will have. Last year Cleveland lost both starting CBs to IR when Daylon McCutcheon and Gary Baxter went down early in the year. Backup Lee Bodden played great but he also landed on IR which caused a cascading effect where the safeties had to cover for weak starting CBs. The benefit of those injuries was that critical depth was developed with Daven Holly and now Bodden is back healthy and Cleveland drafted a promising CB named Eric Wright and he has impressed to the point that he is a rookie starting CB. He expects to be targeted and how well he holds up will play a big part in whether or not Big Ben will be able to connect on the deep ball. The safeties are going to be free to play center field if Wright holds up and from all accounts the kid is ready for the challenge. So the Browns will have better pass coverage which means the pass rush will have more time to get to the QB.

So you would be wrong.

The Browns have improved directly by adding Peek and with the healthy return of Roye and the plays that Williams/Thompson will see and indirectly with their pass coverage which will allow more time for the pass rush to get to the QB.
So according to your post the only improvement the Clowns have made is getting a LB who had a whole 6 sacks a few yrs ago. Classic Brownie fan perspective.
First pube, first beer, and your first try at making a football post congrats but when you learn the game maybe you can thread with me kid.
 
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
Owned you all day buddy. Shut your pie hole.
 
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
Owned you all day buddy. Shut your pie hole.
:goodposting:
 
Considering giving him the start against the usually weak Cleveland defense and in hopes of seeing the opened up Steeler offense.

Anyone like Roethlisberger to have a big game this week?
I tink Big Ben has a huge season, and i think it starts tommorrow.23/33 292 yards, 3 TD's, 1 Int.

4 rush, 15 yards
The Steelers' pass protection was horrible in 2006. Big Ben was getting killed back there. The Steelers' failed to address the problem in the offseason, as they had to shore up a front 7 that was having problems. Namely, they needed to find a replacement for LB Jerry Porter. I expect the Steelers' defense to still be decent, but its folly to expect the offense to be fixed.You can't expect a big season from Ben Roethlisberger, and anyone who tells you otherwise does not understand that football is all about blocking and tackling.
The Browns last yr could not get to the qb and only recorded 28 sacks and have not made any improvements. Last yr the Browns had only 2 sacks in their first meeting against the Steelers and zero in their second. And Jerry Porter never played for the Steelers.
Didn't improve eh?Antwan Peek had his best season of his career playing under Defensive Coordinator Ted Granthan in Houston a couple years ago when he had a half dozen sacks. The Texans switched to a 4-3 defense and the 3-4 OLB/DE Peek had no role. He was eager to sign with the Browns because he knew Granthan would get the best out of him. In limited action this preseason Peek had a sack and a strip. Reports are he is a legit pass rusher. He is starting opposite Kamerion Wimbley so pass protection is going to roll away from his side of the field. Peek takes over for the elderly and dinged up Willie McGhinnest. When healthy, McGhinnest can bring it. Backup LBs Leon Williams and Chuan Thomson both can rush the passer and Leon is expected to see the field more this year. The D-Line hasn't gotten any upgrades in pass rushing but Orpheous Roye is healthy and has some pass rush.

The other aspect that you haven't mentioned and considering your reply shows you haven't got a clue about the Browns, is the upgraded secondary and specifically in terms of coverage that the Browns will have. Last year Cleveland lost both starting CBs to IR when Daylon McCutcheon and Gary Baxter went down early in the year. Backup Lee Bodden played great but he also landed on IR which caused a cascading effect where the safeties had to cover for weak starting CBs. The benefit of those injuries was that critical depth was developed with Daven Holly and now Bodden is back healthy and Cleveland drafted a promising CB named Eric Wright and he has impressed to the point that he is a rookie starting CB. He expects to be targeted and how well he holds up will play a big part in whether or not Big Ben will be able to connect on the deep ball. The safeties are going to be free to play center field if Wright holds up and from all accounts the kid is ready for the challenge. So the Browns will have better pass coverage which means the pass rush will have more time to get to the QB.

So you would be wrong.

The Browns have improved directly by adding Peek and with the healthy return of Roye and the plays that Williams/Thompson will see and indirectly with their pass coverage which will allow more time for the pass rush to get to the QB.
So according to your post the only improvement the Clowns have made is getting a LB who had a whole 6 sacks a few yrs ago. Classic Brownie fan perspective.
First pube, first beer, and your first try at making a football post congrats but when you learn the game maybe you can thread with me kid.
:rant: 34-7 :towelwave: maybe someday I can be smartz and can learn me some football. :pickle:
 

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