**Dolphins at Bills - Orchard Park Showdown**(-6, 49.5) 1:00 (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

Go for 2!

 

[SoBeDad]

Not even a target for Waddle?!? Does he look healthy?

Not anymore

Back in. Blood on his calf.

TD!!!

 

[ProstheticRGK]

You simply cannot leave Josh Allen 1:38 to get in FG range.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Glad Miami scored with more than 20-30 seconds. I think they would have went for two and punched it in.

 

[General Malaise]

Wah wah wah wah, I hate hate Waddle, wah wah wah.

You don't deserve him, you ungrateful snits.

 

[massraider]

Kick Waddle in the calf every 4th quarter

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And now we watch Allen take the ball and move Buffalo into a short FG situation and Miami will lose 30-27
Greta game, good job B2B weeks very entertaining, 29-28 last week, 30-27 today, this is a good football
At least they are competitive, just need a tune up in the off season, it's been a rough ride without Tua

 

[SoBeDad]

Go for 2!

Analytics. Josh Allen. Maybe we want to lose. This is not like McDaniel.

 

[Todem]

Tua plays just well enough to get you a little excited before the rug eventually gets pulled.

 

[Desert_Power]

A Chop Robinson sighting.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Wah wah wah wah, I hate hate Waddle, wah wah wah.

You don't deserve him, you ungrateful snits.

Calm down bud

 

[-OZ-]

Just turned red zone back on. Go !!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

A Chop Robinson sighting.

I just saw him, good time for a neutral zone infraction

 

[General Malaise]

Wah wah wah wah, I hate hate Waddle, wah wah wah.

You don't deserve him, you ungrateful snits.

Calm down bud

I'm calm, you're the one that was melting down throughout this thread.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Ohhhhhh, can’t do that!

 

[-OZ-]

How often do QBs throw deep trying to get the flag?

 

[Desert_Power]

And Poyer screws the Phins.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Assault and Battery #21 Poyer

 

[General Malaise]

Ty Hill is a disaster at this point if you're forced to start him every week
He was single digits while Tua was OUT and he's not much better now, no effort to get him the ball
Waddle either for that matter, why did Miami extend him?

Calm down, bud.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Targeting, should be tossed for that personal foul

 

[Todem]

Wah wah wah wah, I hate hate Waddle, wah wah wah.

You don't deserve him, you ungrateful snits.

 

[SoBeDad]

Targeting, should be tossed for that personal foul

BUF had addition by sustraction when they got rid of Poyer.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Ty Hill is a disaster at this point if you're forced to start him every week
He was single digits while Tua was OUT and he's not much better now, no effort to get him the ball
Waddle either for that matter, why did Miami extend him?

Calm down, bud.

I have stats/facts, he's a disaster in FF, do you want me to start listing his catches and yds for all 7-8 games?
Can I get you another drink?

 

[massraider]

How often do QBs throw deep trying to get the flag?

Not enough

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And Poyer screws the Phins.

And he was empowered by Chris Grier, add that to that list

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Ty Hill is a disaster at this point if you're forced to start him every week
He was single digits while Tua was OUT and he's not much better now, no effort to get him the ball
Waddle either for that matter, why did Miami extend him?

Calm down, bud.

Reversal- 2 pts, red

 

[Ministry of Pain]

61 yds - Tyler Bass
What a shot!

 

[-OZ-]

Nice kick

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And now we watch Allen take the ball and move Buffalo into a short FG situation and Miami will lose 30-27
Greta game, good job B2B weeks very entertaining, 29-28 last week, 30-27 today, this is a good football
At least they are competitive, just need a tune up in the off season, it's been a rough ride without Tua

Cha-Ching!

 

[General Malaise]

Great game.

 

[Grahamburn]

What a kick. Holder knew immediately.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

What a kick. That was good from maybe 70.

 

[SoBeDad]

And now we watch Allen take the ball and move Buffalo into a short FG situation and Miami will lose 30-27
Greta game, good job B2B weeks very entertaining, 29-28 last week, 30-27 today, this is a good football
At least they are competitive, just need a tune up in the off season, it's been a rough ride without Tua

Cha-Ching!

Correct. McDaniel has made some bad coaching decisions this year. This was one of them.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

We got Tua off the field in 1 piece
It's a great day to live in Miami

 

[Todem]

Tua had a really
Good day, running game was really strong.

Thanks Poyer. You idiot.

 

[Osaurus]

Nice, Bass

 

[SoBeDad]

We got Tua off the field in 1 piece
It's a great day to live in Miami

Up to pick 1.05 in the NFL draft! But not good enough for Sanders or Cam Ward per Tankathon.

We have good SOS (low) and need to root for the Giants, Patriots, and others.

 

[SoBeDad]

Nice, Bass

I'm old enough to recall when Bill fans thought it was a rebuilding year and wanted McDermott and Bass to be gone.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Nice, Bass

I'm old enough to recall when Bill fans thought it was a rebuilding year and wanted McDermott and Bass to be gone.

 

[irish eyes]

McDermott is an idiot, hardly used one of his best players Cook.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Nice, Bass

I'm old enough to recall when Bill fans thought it was a rebuilding year and wanted McDermott and Bass to be gone.

Yeah, that was me at halftime.

(Well, not McDermott but still).

 

[GroveDiesel]

McDermott is an idiot, hardly used one of his best players Cook.

Me whispering quietly: Ray Davis is actually a better RB by a hair…

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

McDermott is an idiot, hardly used one of his best players Cook.

Davis may be better than Cook. Could be consensus by next year some time.

 

[Obie Wan]

Weak holding call on the Allen TD

Criminal. Quite outrageous actually.

This is an NFL problem though. There’s zero reason that calls that are immediately obviously wrong should still be happening on today’s world.

well, that is incorrect.
There is a huge reason why NFL refs are a big black hole.

The NFL is obligated to meet the expectation of its gambling and TV partners by influencing, if not dictating, the outcome of games.
Can't be doing that is the ref calls are automated and clearly correct.
Saw a recent report that blowouts are at a record low - not a coincidence with the amount paid by advertisers for TV

 

[Todem]

Weak holding call on the Allen TD

Criminal. Quite outrageous actually.

This is an NFL problem though. There’s zero reason that calls that are immediately obviously wrong should still be happening on today’s world.

well, that is incorrect.
There is a huge reason why NFL refs are a big black hole.

The NFL is obligated to meet the expectation of its gambling and TV partners by influencing, if not dictating, the outcome of games.
Can't be doing that is the ref calls are automated and clearly correct.
Saw a recent report that blowouts are at a record low - not a coincidence with the amount paid by advertisers for TV

The quality of the product IMO is at an all time low.

And with gambling now fully accessible and embraced by all major league sports…..the pandora’s box has been opened wide and things will never be the same ever again.

Everything will have that cloud above it’s head.

 

[Obie Wan]

Weak holding call on the Allen TD

Criminal. Quite outrageous actually.

This is an NFL problem though. There’s zero reason that calls that are immediately obviously wrong should still be happening on today’s world.

well, that is incorrect.
There is a huge reason why NFL refs are a big black hole.

The NFL is obligated to meet the expectation of its gambling and TV partners by influencing, if not dictating, the outcome of games.
Can't be doing that is the ref calls are automated and clearly correct.
Saw a recent report that blowouts are at a record low - not a coincidence with the amount paid by advertisers for TV

The quality of the product IMO is at an all time low.

And with gambling now fully accessible and embraced by all major league sports…..the pandora’s box has been opened wide and things will never be the same ever again.

Everything will have that cloud above it’s head.

you would think the the league would at least want to try for the perception of transparency and accountability to counter the scrutiny.
but no - they are essentially flaunting their disdane for accuracy and the fans

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Weak holding call on the Allen TD

Criminal. Quite outrageous actually.

This is an NFL problem though. There’s zero reason that calls that are immediately obviously wrong should still be happening on today’s world.

well, that is incorrect.
There is a huge reason why NFL refs are a big black hole.

The NFL is obligated to meet the expectation of its gambling and TV partners by influencing, if not dictating, the outcome of games.
Can't be doing that is the ref calls are automated and clearly correct.
Saw a recent report that blowouts are at a record low - not a coincidence with the amount paid by advertisers for TV

The quality of the product IMO is at an all time low.

And with gambling now fully accessible and embraced by all major league sports…..the pandora’s box has been opened wide and things will never be the same ever again.

Everything will have that cloud above it’s head.

you would think the the league would at least want to try for the perception of transparency and accountability to counter the scrutiny.
but no - they are essentially flaunting their disdane for accuracy and the fans

When people very aggressively avoid transparency and accountability, there is usually a reason why. The replay officials in NY seem to do a pretty good job getting calls right, and the NFL could certainly use those folks to improve in-game officiating. They choose not to do so, and I think it's fine to make the appropriate negative inferences. For reasons that we can only speculate* about, the NFL wants these kinds of calls in games. It's a policy choice.

* Gambling is an obvious motivation, but I suspect the league has made a strategic determination that it is in their interests to have a steady stream of "officiating controversies" because it keeps the games in the news for a day or two after Sunday afternoon.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Weak holding call on the Allen TD

Criminal. Quite outrageous actually.

This is an NFL problem though. There’s zero reason that calls that are immediately obviously wrong should still be happening on today’s world.

well, that is incorrect.
There is a huge reason why NFL refs are a big black hole.

The NFL is obligated to meet the expectation of its gambling and TV partners by influencing, if not dictating, the outcome of games.
Can't be doing that is the ref calls are automated and clearly correct.
Saw a recent report that blowouts are at a record low - not a coincidence with the amount paid by advertisers for TV

The quality of the product IMO is at an all time low.

And with gambling now fully accessible and embraced by all major league sports…..the pandora’s box has been opened wide and things will never be the same ever again.

Everything will have that cloud above it’s head.

you would think the the league would at least want to try for the perception of transparency and accountability to counter the scrutiny.
but no - they are essentially flaunting their disdane for accuracy and the fans

When people very aggressively avoid transparency and accountability, there is usually a reason why. The replay officials in NY seem to do a pretty good job getting calls right, and the NFL could certainly use those folks to improve in-game officiating. They choose not to do so, and I think it's fine to make the appropriate negative inferences. For reasons that we can only speculate* about, the NFL wants these kinds of calls in games. It's a policy choice.

* Gambling is an obvious motivation, but I suspect the league has made a strategic determination that it is in their interests to have a steady stream of "officiating controversies" because it keeps the games in the news for a day or two after Sunday afternoon.

I’m not sure that the union doesn’t play a role as well though. Those of us old enough remember the last major labor negotiations where the NFL was pushing for refs to be full time and for there to be more accountability for wrong calls. And we remember how the press, lead by Peter King, drove public opinion against the NFL while the replacement refs were in play and how the NFL ultimately folded.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Weak holding call on the Allen TD

Criminal. Quite outrageous actually.

This is an NFL problem though. There’s zero reason that calls that are immediately obviously wrong should still be happening on today’s world.

well, that is incorrect.
There is a huge reason why NFL refs are a big black hole.

The NFL is obligated to meet the expectation of its gambling and TV partners by influencing, if not dictating, the outcome of games.
Can't be doing that is the ref calls are automated and clearly correct.
Saw a recent report that blowouts are at a record low - not a coincidence with the amount paid by advertisers for TV

The quality of the product IMO is at an all time low.

And with gambling now fully accessible and embraced by all major league sports…..the pandora’s box has been opened wide and things will never be the same ever again.

Everything will have that cloud above it’s head.

you would think the the league would at least want to try for the perception of transparency and accountability to counter the scrutiny.
but no - they are essentially flaunting their disdane for accuracy and the fans

When people very aggressively avoid transparency and accountability, there is usually a reason why. The replay officials in NY seem to do a pretty good job getting calls right, and the NFL could certainly use those folks to improve in-game officiating. They choose not to do so, and I think it's fine to make the appropriate negative inferences. For reasons that we can only speculate* about, the NFL wants these kinds of calls in games. It's a policy choice.

* Gambling is an obvious motivation, but I suspect the league has made a strategic determination that it is in their interests to have a steady stream of "officiating controversies" because it keeps the games in the news for a day or two after Sunday afternoon.

I’m not sure that the union doesn’t play a role as well though. Those of us old enough remember the last major labor negotiations where the NFL was pushing for refs to be full time and for there to be more accountability for wrong calls. And we remember how the press, lead by Peter King, drove public opinion against the NFL while the replacement refs were in play and how the NFL ultimately folded.

I remember that. I don't recall exactly when that was, but I'm sure it was over a decade ago. The league could fix this if they wanted to. They just don't want to.