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Dolphins get LB Akin Ayodele and TE Anthony Fasano (1 Viewer)
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"Dallas Cowboys trade linebacker Akin Ayodele and tight end Anthony Fasano to the Miami Dolphins for a fourth-round pick in the NFL draft. Details to come."
http://www.dallasnews.com/
http://www.dallasnews.com/
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AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
So in a nutshell, the Cowboys just traded Fasano and Ayodele for Pacman. If that dude stays clean this is highway robbery.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
IF he gets reinstated this year.Will the hush money he allegedly paid the shooter in Vegas cause him some problems?
ditka85
Footballguy
Jason Wood
Zoo York
That's a nice deal for Miami. Parcells knows both guys really well and they should both vie for starting positions on the Fins.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Yeah, great deal for the Dolphins. Guess Jerry was getting a bit of cold fee about not having a fourth round pick. (?)
3C's
Footballguy
Give him a year. Max.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Well done Miami!!!
Hope this doesnt hurt Wittens stats.
Hope this doesnt hurt Wittens stats.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Role players, YES. But Fasano was a first day pick with great credentials. Just so happens he played behind the best all around tight end in the NFC. This isn't like Parcells is taking a flier on a guy, he knows exactly what Fasano is capable of; so I imagine he views him as the starter potentially and can cross that "need" off their draft board.Ayodele seems more of a throw in in the trade IMHO.Honestly, JJones just cleared a little cap space by getting rid of 2 role players and has basically acquired a late 3rd rounder. Ammo for a big Dallas trade? Two firsts and a 4th for a McFadden opportunity or first and 4th for a veteran wr perhaps?
Ayodele was just thrown in. His play versus salary could have had him not making it out of camp this year. He was mentioned as fodder in the Pacman deal over the past month as well. Miami while not having the best talent is definitely getting better than what they had. Fasano has shown glimpses although not on a consistent basis. He should do well for Miami.
Akin is a good ILB in the prime of his career and Dallas was looking to move him. He'll be a good starter during the transition. Fasano will compete for the starting job.
Two draft needs addressed with one second day pick.
I also think JJ is stockpiling picks for a move at McFadden
Two draft needs addressed with one second day pick.
I also think JJ is stockpiling picks for a move at McFadden
Tyrion
Footballguy
Good trade for Miami and Dallas.
Good for the Dolphins
Akin is a solid player who's days were numbered with Dallas when they signed Zach Thomas. Fasano has good ability and if he is recovered from the shoulder surgery and can avoid the injury bug he had in Dallas he should be a good TE for the Dolphins. Both are also really good character guys and will be good in the locker room.
Good for Dallas
I always like having that first pick in the 4th round although it won't be as potent this year since it won't be the first pick on the second day. I think this opens a spot for Carpenter to move in although it will be Zach's job as long as he is healthy. Tony Curtis was a little known TE that only scored TDs last season. I mean it. 3 catchs for 3 TDs. This gives him more of a chance to shine behind Jason Witten.
Good for the Dolphins
Akin is a solid player who's days were numbered with Dallas when they signed Zach Thomas. Fasano has good ability and if he is recovered from the shoulder surgery and can avoid the injury bug he had in Dallas he should be a good TE for the Dolphins. Both are also really good character guys and will be good in the locker room.
Good for Dallas
I always like having that first pick in the 4th round although it won't be as potent this year since it won't be the first pick on the second day. I think this opens a spot for Carpenter to move in although it will be Zach's job as long as he is healthy. Tony Curtis was a little known TE that only scored TDs last season. I mean it. 3 catchs for 3 TDs. This gives him more of a chance to shine behind Jason Witten.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
As a Cowboy fan I feel violated. They made a great deal with Cleveland to let them have Quinn, turned around and got violated by the Eagles to draft Spencer (who should have been Weddle and Stewart Bradley, btw). Now they make a pretty reasonable deal for Pacman, minimal risk, big upside, and turn around in inexplicable fashion and recover the fourth rounder by coughing up two guys I doubt they can come close to covering with an early 4th rounder?
This deal is great for Dallas. Dallas acquires a 4th Round pick to play with this weekend (Maybe draft a QB), but more importantly clears up cap space from Ayodele's contract for a potential move for a veteran wide receiver. Ayodele was likely to get cut in a cap clearing move anyways, at least Dallas got something.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Vet? Fasano has played two years in the league. Not really the definition of a vet IMO.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think the Cowboys got fleeced.
Tyrion
Footballguy
Ah this brings me back to a point I forgot to mention in my last post. Anyone know how much money this clears up?And for the guy who feels violated. The #1 4th rounder is not a bad price for a journeyman LB that was probably going to be a cap casualty and a talented but unproven TE who has had problems staying healthy and is just now coming off of reconstructive shoulder surgery. The jets just traded Robertson (wasn't he the #7 overall 2-3 years ago?) to the Broncos for something that probably won't be higher than a 4th rounder.
Tuna is the ultimate recycler. It's funny how attached he gets to "his" players and continues to build the Southbeach Cowboys.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
He's a really well schooled versatile TE who blocks, catches and runs with above average game. He did a great Witten impersonation when asked, and I was very comfortable with him on the roster in the very unfortunate event Witten should go down. I was even planning on stashing him on my dynasty roster for that possibility. Now, we'll be racing to grab him. Yes, Curtis caught some misdirection TDs last year, but he better be far better than his resume and PT suggest for this to make any sense. I could care less about Ayodele in this deal. Why does a team cough up an 06 second rounder who was working out nicely for an 08 4th rounder, who will be hit or miss at best, and sacrificing stout depth at a key offensive skill position to do it? Lame lame lame... sorry, I'm POd here.
Tyrion
Footballguy
And he is not really a blocking TE. He is more of a receiver than a blocker. He just didn't catch many balls.
Ayodele was going to cost Dallas a little over 3 million against the cap this year. This could be a sign that Dallas will be looking to add a veteran player (WR?) tomorrow.
Fasano is not a huge loss, despite him being a 2nd round pick. Bobby Carpenter was a 1st round pick, as was Roy Williams, and I wouldn't mind them gone each for a 4th round pick either. Ayodele was likely a cap casualty. Dallas got a valuable commodity in this weekends draft. I think both teams got a great deal.
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I don't know if you guys remember, but the Patriots got their first round pick removed. So this is really like the last pick in the third round.
Mustang Man
Footballguy
The reason Fasano is expandable is because when they drafted him 2 years ago Parcells used 2 TE sets a lot. Now Dallas does not do that. Ayodele they wanted to get rid of. They have a log jam at that position. They should get a good player at 4.1. Cleared some cap space as well.Role players, YES. But Fasano was a first day pick with great credentials. Just so happens he played behind the best all around tight end in the NFC. This isn't like Parcells is taking a flier on a guy, he knows exactly what Fasano is capable of; so I imagine he views him as the starter potentially and can cross that "need" off their draft board.Ayodele seems more of a throw in in the trade IMHO.Honestly, JJones just cleared a little cap space by getting rid of 2 role players and has basically acquired a late 3rd rounder. Ammo for a big Dallas trade? Two firsts and a 4th for a McFadden opportunity or first and 4th for a veteran wr perhaps?
pgreenfan
Footballguy
twitch
Footballguy
What does a guy need 8 or 9 years of experience to be considered a vet these days? the guy gets one year under his belt, he's a vet in my book. And the younger and healthier the vet, the better. 3rd year is just entering prime production. And I really looked at the guy's size, 265, and saw at the very least a TE capable of blocking. Im sure he is able to catch, and stuck behind Witten didnt really get to show his skills. So, Id give him the credit of being more than just a 'blocking' TE. There's just not much professional evidence of that yet.
Tyrion
Footballguy
I can think of a few reasons. Fasano's value was not going to go up because he was behind arguably the Best TE in the league who is also best friends with the QB. Considering Witten is also one of the toughest guys and never gets seriously injured and plays through minor injuries like a broken jaw, that would sideline most players, they didn't think it was a position of need.Also because Fasano was brought in when we had a OC that wanted to run alot of two TE sets and we now have a new even better OC that wants to utilize the fullback. Which reminds me that one of the best fullbacks in a while can probably be had for a 4 rounder. Schmitz anyone? That is just a guess but I hope it happens.
When you have a TE like Crumpler get straight up released by a team earlier I am happy to get the 100th pick in the draft for an unproven TE.
Mustang Man
Footballguy
Don't forget Dallas moved up 26 spots in the 4th round as well.
singe du doigt
Footballguy
Actually, I think it's kind of the textbook definition of a veteran.
The 4th round pick gives Dallas many more options. Use it to trade up a bit in the 1st or 2nd round, perhaps the pick is needed to complete a trade for a veteran player, maybe Dallas just wanted the pick to draft a QB. The pick is #100 so a solid player should be available.
Tyrion
Footballguy
I consider them a vet in year 4 or after they go to the pro-bowl but as a Cowboys fan I might have a higher standard.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
At first glance I really thought my 'boys got fleeced here as well, but after considering Ayodele was gone anyway, they moved up 26 spots in the 4th round, I say nice trade for both teams.Now, lemme preface by saying that I am an Oregon homer here, but is there any chance the Cowboys look at a guy like Dennis Dixon as a BU QB?
singe du doigt
Footballguy
Or an incomplete grasp of vocabulary.
Mustang Man
Footballguy
You are right about all 3 options. I had thought before the Pacman trade that Dallas would go for a QB in the 4th. Now they can do that. It would be very useful to trade up in the 2cnd round as well to get a player that has dropped.(CB,RB,WR) All needs and they I hope get two of them needs in the first. Sure hope they make a deal for a vet wr(Boldin, R.Williams) though instead of drafting a rookie wr in the first or second but you have to take what you can get.
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Tyrion
Footballguy
Could be... but probably not.Also another potential reason for the Fasano trade is that he dropped a gimme TD in the playoff game against the Giants. Jerry doesn't forget those type of things. Crayton was lucky to get his deal done before his costly drop.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
If this deal somehow helps them do this, then I'll change my tune, but I'm pretty doubtful. The depressing draft moves of 06 and 07 are flashing before my eyes. I need to step out of this thread. I can't find my rose colored glasses. I hope you're right MM, I really do.
I'm not losing any sleep tonight in trading away an underachieving Ayodele and his 3+ million in cap space or Fasano and his yearly 14 catches. Dallas needed the 4th round pick for a reason the eve before the draft and I trust we'll know why tomorrow or Sunday.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
If this is a sign of things to come tomorrow, it's going to be a fun day listining to the wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from Cowboys fans.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Positing every move like this as part of some grand scheme to bring in star power seems a little naive. And I know these aren't key players, but they were good enough to make the Cowboys' roster last year, and Parcells has looted something like 8 of them now. You have to feel that at some point, no?
Tyrion
Footballguy
"Wails and gnashes teeth" Happy now? Cowboy fans like to make their fans happy.Seriously though I think tomorrow is going to be a happy draft. Of course the problem with having so many fans, is some folks won't be happy no matter what they do.
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Tyrion
Footballguy
It happens when a team has alot of pro-bowlers (13 last year?), a 13-3 season and a Head coach who goes to another team. (Especially one that won only 1 game and needs alot of players).Dallas hit the trifecta. The good news is that none would be starters this season and we have backups or draft picks to take their spots.
