Donnie Avery- Colts (1 Viewer)

[bonesman]

Reminds me a bit of Laurent Robinson last year.

 

[TS Garp]

Reminds me a bit of Laurent Robinson last year.

Very different players. And don't forget that Robinson stepped into a dream situation -- very good QB throwing him the ball, and, more importantly, lots of talent surrounding him to take the pressure off. I do like Avery's upside if he can stay healthy and it's a situation to watch but I wouldn't expect anything close to Laurent's numbers.

 

[ExaltedOne]

This does not deserve its own thread.

 

[finito]

This is his year!

 

[bonesman]

This does not deserve its own thread.

Same was said of Laurent last year... that's why I make the comparison (their time in Stl has them linked in my mind too)... not so much their playing style or situation.

 

[duaneok66]

if Danario Alexander can have a war and peace sized thread, then Donnie Avery (or anyone else) can have a thread that is one or a few pages long.

 

[cstu]

This is his year!

 

[cstu]

Hard to believe he's 28 already.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

This is his year!

... I defended this guy for a few years... those days are over, but I dont mind having him at the end of my roster

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think Avery has potential to be a steal.

Currently it seems that Collie is running with the starters and Avery has a thigh contusion. He likely will not play this week.

However, Arians on NFL Radio last week stated more than once that Donnie Avery is the Mike Wallace role in his offense. Everything was very positive on him pre-injury, which doesn't seem serious.

Any updates on him anywhere?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

As of today in my PPR he's averaging 16ppg and has 18 targets through the first 2 games. Admittedly I havent seen a snap of his this season, can anyone say hows he's looked out there? Given what I previously said he seems to be a nice option to have.

 

[donkshow]

As of today in my PPR he's averaging 16ppg and has 18 targets through the first 2 games. Admittedly I havent seen a snap of his this season, can anyone say hows he's looked out there? Given what I previously said he seems to be a nice option to have.

He's looked good, I just wonder what happens when(if) Collie comes back.

 

[zed2283]

I have two TV's set up in my family room and keep one tuned in to Red Zone. It seemed like every time they went to the Colts on RZ, Luck was throwing the ball to #11. I couldn't figure out who it was until I looked it up, and it was Avery.

 

[DeaLerZ]

As of today in my PPR he's averaging 16ppg and has 18 targets through the first 2 games. Admittedly I havent seen a snap of his this season, can anyone say hows he's looked out there? Given what I previously said he seems to be a nice option to have.

He's looked good, I just wonder what happens when(if) Collie comes back.

Collie gets a ton of targets.. and Avery gets an average of 5 per game

 

[Bigboy10182000]

As of today in my PPR he's averaging 16ppg and has 18 targets through the first 2 games. Admittedly I havent seen a snap of his this season, can anyone say hows he's looked out there? Given what I previously said he seems to be a nice option to have.

He's looked good, I just wonder what happens when(if) Collie comes back.

Collie gets a ton of targets.. and Avery gets an average of 5 per game

How many of those ton does it take to have him gone again? IMO this is likely to happen in the first or second quarter.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Donnie Avery deserves his own thread after going 9/111 on ten targets. The fact that Collie is struggling to clear his head reminds me of Jahvid Best's situation. We know Luck is going to get his and the Colts will be playing catchup all year long. There is value in the Colts beyond just Reggie Wayne. Avery is worth a flier, especially if you believe Collie is done or close to it. If you are betting on Collie, then Avery isn't on your radar.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Donnie Avery deserves his own thread after going 9/111 on ten targets. The fact that Collie is struggling to clear his head reminds me of Jahvid Best's situation. We know Luck is going to get his and the Colts will be playing catchup all year long. There is value in the Colts beyond just Reggie Wayne. Avery is worth a flier, especially if you believe Collie is done or close to it. If you are betting on Collie, then Avery isn't on your radar.

If you're betting on Collie then you probably need to see a Dr for a possible concussion as well

 

[cstu]

T.Y. Hilton came back from his hamstring injury and was placed above Avery on the depth chart last week. It will be interesting to see how much the Colts gets Hilton involved (he had one target and caught a 15 yard pass) and how much it cuts down on Avery's targets.

 

[tombonneau]

I have two TV's set up in my family room and keep one tuned in to Red Zone. It seemed like every time they went to the Colts on RZ, Luck was throwing the ball to #11. I couldn't figure out who it was until I looked it up, and it was Avery.

Just watched the game last night. Avery got a ton of looks and looked great. I'm targeting him.

 

[Thumper]

When Collie returns Avery will be useless.

 

[DukeBroadway]

Yeah for like one game. Then Collie is concussed....AGAIN.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I have avery and an offer for Cutler and Bush netting me RG3 and Collie. I am starting to think having Collie and Avery (if you can afford the space) is a decent bet for a while.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I have avery and an offer for Cutler and Bush netting me RG3 and Collie. I am starting to think having Collie and Avery (if you can afford the space) is a decent bet for a while.

That is a buy low of RG3. Jump on it while it's still that cheap. Collie is a throwaway in that deal. Do it.

 

[Sweet Love]

Yeah for like one game. Then Collie is concussed....AGAIN.

Seriously...unless Collie gets to play with the "red jersey", he will be lucky to make it through a quarter. This back and forth stuff (in regards to his head) is not good. It would be very easy for him to pass a test (like he did last week) and say he is fine the day after the first practice...he couldn't even do that.

 

[Chaka]

I am of the opinion that Collie is not a special talent. He was Manning's guy, there is no guarantee that if/when he returns that Luck will target him like Manning did.

 

[duaneok66]

When Collie returns Avery will be useless.

terrible post.

 

[Warrior]

When Collie returns Avery will be useless.

terrible post.

Even worse post. At least his expressed his opinion.

 

[duaneok66]

T.Y. Hilton came back from his hamstring injury and was placed above Avery on the depth chart last week. It will be interesting to see how much the Colts gets Hilton involved (he had one target and caught a 15 yard pass) and how much it cuts down on Avery's targets.

isn't Hilton a rookie? I don't see it. Avery is a legitimate starter (when healthy).

 

[Insein]

I think Avery has potential to be a steal.

Currently it seems that Collie is running with the starters and Avery has a thigh contusion. He likely will not play this week.

However, Arians on NFL Radio last week stated more than once that Donnie Avery is the Mike Wallace role in his offense. Everything was very positive on him pre-injury, which doesn't seem serious.

Any updates on him anywhere?

Nevermind. August 9th.

 

[Insein]

I am of the opinion that Collie is not a special talent. He was Manning's guy, there is no guarantee that if/when he returns that Luck will target him like Manning did.

Not to mention he was the old GM's draft pick. There is no loyalty to stay with him if Avery is producing.

 

[menobrown]

Luck is good, the Colts can't run, they figure to play from behind and need to pass often, rookie TE's often struggle to produce and I think the Colt's don't run a lot of 3 WR sets. I know the #3 WR target on that team has 7 total targets after 2 games. Meanwhile Wayne and Avery have combined for 43 targets and a few rushing attempts.

Point is there looks to be a ton of value in the starting WR for the Colts this year. If Collie comes back I think he is going to post big numbers but he could come back next week or never but with the bye week in week 4 I'd be stunned to see him before week 5. To me Avery makes a nice player to start this week and a potential season long gem if Collie can't get back.

 

[noneother]

I like and am optimistic for Brazill

 

[pizzatyme]

I see a lot of predictions for the Colts to be playing from behind. I'd like to say that these aren't the old Colts nor is it the old defense. The Colts have beefed up their D-line and they have Powers and Bethea in the defensive backfield.

I do believe they will be in most games but due to Brown's ability to be a game breaker, they will be passing early and often. This may change if/when Ballard takes over (which may be sooner than later).

I expect the Colts to be playing with the lead again this week which could temper Luck's numbers.

Carry on

Edit to add that Collie IS talented, however Avery is very valuable opposite Wayne. Defenses pick their poison and with Wayne blowing up week 1 it shows he still has it. Now that Avery has done the same, I look for Fleener and/or possible Dwayne Allen to have a nice week here.

 

[Insein]

I see a lot of predictions for the Colts to be playing from behind. I'd like to say that these aren't the old Colts nor is it the old defense. The Colts have beefed up their D-line and they have Powers and Bethea in the defensive backfield.

I do believe they will be in most games but due to Brown's ability to be a game breaker, they will be passing early and often. This may change if/when Ballard takes over (which may be sooner than later).

I expect the Colts to be playing with the lead again this week which could temper Luck's numbers.

Carry on

Wait, what?

 

[pizzatyme]

I see a lot of predictions for the Colts to be playing from behind. I'd like to say that these aren't the old Colts nor is it the old defense. The Colts have beefed up their D-line and they have Powers and Bethea in the defensive backfield.

I do believe they will be in most games but due to Brown's ability to be a game breaker, they will be passing early and often. This may change if/when Ballard takes over (which may be sooner than later).

I expect the Colts to be playing with the lead again this week which could temper Luck's numbers.

Carry on

Wait, what?

Check that...INABILITY!

 

[donkshow]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.

I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

 

[pizzatyme]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

It obviously depends on how deep your bench goes. Keep in mind, Collie and Luck were on the same page in the preseason and that would likely continue. I'd say if Collie doesn't play by week #5, then his time is unfortunately over.

 

[kd1]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

It obviously depends on how deep your bench goes. Keep in mind, Collie and Luck were on the same page in the preseason and that would likely continue. I'd say if Collie doesn't play by week #5, then his time is unfortunately over.

avery and luck are on the same page in the regular season.

 

[pizzatyme]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

It obviously depends on how deep your bench goes. Keep in mind, Collie and Luck were on the same page in the preseason and that would likely continue. I'd say if Collie doesn't play by week #5, then his time is unfortunately over.

avery and luck are on the same page in the regular season.

Thanks for the update. If Collie is healthy, are you suggesting Avery outproduces him?

 

[cubbie5150]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

It obviously depends on how deep your bench goes. Keep in mind, Collie and Luck were on the same page in the preseason and that would likely continue. I'd say if Collie doesn't play by week #5, then his time is unfortunately over.

avery and luck are on the same page in the regular season.

 

[Insein]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

It obviously depends on how deep your bench goes. Keep in mind, Collie and Luck were on the same page in the preseason and that would likely continue. I'd say if Collie doesn't play by week #5, then his time is unfortunately over.

avery and luck are on the same page in the regular season.

Thanks for the update. If Collie is healthy, are you suggesting Avery outproduces him?

I don't think it's a suggestion. It's reality.

 

[pizzatyme]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

It obviously depends on how deep your bench goes. Keep in mind, Collie and Luck were on the same page in the preseason and that would likely continue. I'd say if Collie doesn't play by week #5, then his time is unfortunately over.

avery and luck are on the same page in the regular season.

Thanks for the update. If Collie is healthy, are you suggesting Avery outproduces him?

I don't think it's a suggestion. It's reality.

Good luck sir.

 

[Insein]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

It obviously depends on how deep your bench goes. Keep in mind, Collie and Luck were on the same page in the preseason and that would likely continue. I'd say if Collie doesn't play by week #5, then his time is unfortunately over.

avery and luck are on the same page in the regular season.

Thanks for the update. If Collie is healthy, are you suggesting Avery outproduces him?

I don't think it's a suggestion. It's reality.

Good luck sir.

Collie is not on the field while Luck is getting his first REAL NFL experience. Avery has been there and has proven effective for Luck who will remember that going forward. Collie is also one of the old GM's draft picks so there's no pressure on the coach to play him to save face. Collie is in a position where at best, he comes back to being a WR3 for Indy and at worst, depending on the length of time he's out, he could just be let go. Either way, I'll take the guy producing on the field every time.

 

[two_dollars]

I never understood the whole "new GM pick vs old GM pick" as if there was some kind of loyalty to new players and who gives a crap about team veterans. This isn't Al Davis. I don't know what will happen when Collie comes back, nor does anyone else. We will just have to wait and see so enjoy Avery until then.

 

[Bri]

Is it time to dump Collie for Avery? Sounds like Collie could be out for a couple more weeks, if that is the case Avery may have cemented himself as a starter by the time Collie returns.I'm liking what he's been doing, and they give him some running plays here and there too.

It obviously depends on how deep your bench goes. Keep in mind, Collie and Luck were on the same page in the preseason and that would likely continue. I'd say if Collie doesn't play by week #5, then his time is unfortunately over.

avery and luck are on the same page in the regular season.

Thanks for the update. If Collie is healthy, are you suggesting Avery outproduces him?

I think Collie will be like Amendola was to Bradford (no not last week, otherwise) and maybe not offer the highlights but the reliability that a young QB covets will be there.

 

[donkshow]

It's not that Collie isn't skilled still, because of course he is.

He's just so unreliable health-wise, and with the connection Avery and Luck have, Collie could be relegated to WR2b by default. It's not like we're talking about Reggie Wayne coming back from injury and suggesting he is WR3. We're talking about a guy who has played solid in his time on the field, but at some point you have to cut your losses. You can't be relying on a guy who cannot stay healthy. If he is out a couple more weeks I would not be surprised to see him released.

They have other options and Avery has filled the void tremendously.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

if avery has another productive week its very possible that collie goes back to just being a slot(3rd) receiver like the past few years when they had wayne/garcon on the outside.

 

[ppierce]

i dont understand how Collie can barely make it through a couple of practices without feeling concussion symptoms yet somehow expects to play in a game? say he gets lucky and makes it through a few practices and is ok'd by team dr's to play in a game. what really changed in a week, how is that safe?? seems like one good lick would really just end it for him.

 

[Warpig]

Few things...

1) Many said that Collie should retire due to his concussion syndrome. (see Jahvid Best)

2) Luck appears willing to take what the defense gives him. Seems to work Avery underneath on short/intermediate routes with the occasional bomb. Then finds Wayne when coverage is rolled to Avery.

3) Luck and Avery seem to have a comfort level with each other. That is a good thing.

4) Avery has been sacrificing his body from what I've seen (I live in Indy). He is leaving his feet and willing to take the shots across the middle...gotta respect that.

5) They will probably be playing from behind a good deal this year. Equals opportunities.

6) New regime. Avery was brought in to help a raw WR corps. Collie is a hold over and has scrambled brains.

 

[MAC_32]

Problem I see here is what happens when Collie is on the field. I have both in my dyno and have a claim in to add Avery in my other Collie-owned league but don't see the purpose in non-Collie leagues. At least for now, you can't start Avery if Collie is active.