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My God does.
That's what the OP is implying it should, to keep things consistant, since TO's penalty was pretty ridiculously given. He barely touched the ground. Rules are rules, so they (better) enforce them to drop to one knee to pray or give thanksOr does "touch the ground" specifically mean hands/fingers/upper body appendages? Maybe dropping to a knee is okay becasue it's lower body?zoonation said:
A penalty is a penalty. If refs are looking at the name on the back of a jersey to help them make a decision, go ref in the NBA instead.Thats the attitude that leads to flags being thrown for a kid throwing the ball in the air after scoring a TD. Let the players celebrate.Period
I'm sure he's pissed if he has Tom Brady on his fantasy team. Brady won't be getting 70 virgins in his after life.
Somehow I don't think they will do any praying to God when the camera isn't on them.
Wow, sounds like you know them really really well to know the sincerity of their prayer life. Care to share how you were able to get on such personal terms with every NFL player?
Wow. Here is a better question. What color is the sky in your world to think that people do not use prayer to make themselves look good? Or are you "on such personal terms with every NFL player" as to state emphatically that they are the real deal?
Is this a level? I never said they were or weren't sincere; go back and read my post and that will be readily apparent. I asked someone how they could possibly judge whether or not someone else is sincere and your response is essentially "You really think every one of them is sincere?"? I don't mean to be rude but that just doesn't make any sense.
Getting down on his hands and knees, getting into starting blocks, with his hands still on the ground and imitating a sprinter's start is "barely" touchnig the ground? What's it take to really touch the ground...being buried?
No, but his mother does. Just ask the Notre Dame fans.BA-DOOM! CH!Also, wrong forum.Also, I agree 100%. All this "Jesus wanted me to score that touchdown" stuff is very hokey. I say penalize 'em!
It is if you start off an interview, that I am watching, by thanking God for the victory. It's most certainly my business then, because you've made it my business.
I bet it was the guy who was sneeking Gods beer on draft day, thats whos team Brady was on.
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I think the point of this thread was not whether they thank God or not, but if they're going to penalize anyone else for a celebration where they touch the ground, then they should penalize those who drop to one knee and touch the ground to thank God. Flag 'em all according to the literal rule, not just the 'celebrations'.
That's the attitude that leads to Sharpie commercials and cell phones. You don't think there should be a limit at all? That is just absurd.
They won't need a rule making them quit doing that once a deranged fan stabs a player someday.
I think it's irritating because I don't think too many spiritual folks think God has anything to do with someone scoring touchdowns. Sort of irritating like those who use cell phones in elevators, movie theatres, and driving.
Well, he only had 50 coming after last season's performance.
I'm with Hoss here...who cares who they give credit to. I would say I'm a "spiritual person" as some would put it, but I don't assume that everyone bending a knee and pointing to the "heavens" is giving credit to God. My guess is that there are many people that players are trying to "honor".I think the whole point of T.O. touching the ground -vs- bending a knee is skewed. The person bending a knee seems to be giving "honor" to someone else in a pretty unassuming way. Terrel Owens is a showman and a can be a punk, he bows down to himself. To me there is a fundamental difference here, one doesn't show anyone else up, the other does.
Praying is showing off?
Who says they are PRAYING? How do you know they aren't honoring a Grandfather or other relative that passed away?Please don't confuse this with "Kurt Warner interview syndrome".......I may be "spiritual", but he annoys the CRAP out of me when he tries to twist everything into "Jesus helped me throw that TD pass". Somebody said it before, I don't think Jesus would be a huge fan of football.
Look, it's not my style to pray in public and I'm actually not a big fan of players that do it, but there is a point to be made that praying is different and should be treated differently than the ridiculous LOOK AT ME! schtick that's taken over via the likes of TO, Ocho Cinco, et al.
At least YOU are consistant.
Why is it so hard for people to understand that people are greatful to God for everything good in their lives? If you believe God created you, then you believe he gave you your abilities than you believe he helped you throw a TD, because he made the arm that threw the ball. He helped and a Christian believes that, as God, he deserves some recognition.Why does this bother people so? It seems to be some disconnect where you think he is saying that God helped him and didn't help others. He is not saying that. In fact the opposite, that ALL players are helped by God who gave them their physical skills. I've met Kurt and seen him on a regular basis (several years ago). He's a genuine guy and he genuinely believes he is where he is, doing what he is doing because God helped him both in creating his body with its physical skills and in his attitude which are what has gotten him where he is. He feels obligated to give honor and credit to God. Sorry that bothers you, but that's why he does it. Simply to recognize that God helped him. Not to say thanks for that other team or player losing/not doing well. Kurt still thanks God when he struggles, it just doesn't make it on camera because no one interviews him then.
I respect Kurt Warner and I agree with 95% of what you said. I just think that Kurt tries "too hard" to give God credit by saying it over and over...it can be more of a stumbling block to those that don't know God and are turned off by hyper charismatic type folks. Thank God, and then answer the reporters questions like a normal person would rather than trying to preach a sermon in a 2 minute interview. It turns people off and does more harm than good.Jayrod said:
Good point.
