Doug Marrone named HC of Bills (1 Viewer)

[kupcho1]

The cynic in me wonders if Marrone is getting out now because once Nassib leaves the offense is going to go to ####.

Even though I'm of the opinion that the Bills job was the least attractive opening available (and yes, I'm including Cleveland), but still... who the hell doesn't leave Syracuse for the NFL regardless of whether or not you're losing a transcendent talent like Nassib (for the record, I did not know the name of the Syracuse QB before opening this thread)?

Honestly, it's more an indictment of you that you didn't know who Nassib was than on Nassib/Syracuse/Marrone.

Step away from the keyboard. Indictment of me; you're delusional.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Is he gonna bring in his own QB? Any ideas how he might be at developing good starting QB's? I don't wasn't Nassib at 8. Hope he doesn't go that way.

Maybe he's there in the 2nd round? I have to assume Nassib will be high on the radar now.

 

[Stonedog]

Is he gonna bring in his own QB? Any ideas how he might be at developing good starting QB's? I don't wasn't Nassib at 8. Hope he doesn't go that way.

I'm not sure it's a certainty that Nassib goes to Buffalo. Carrol passed on Leinart.., Maybe he's there in the 2nd round? I have to assume Nassib will be high on the radar now.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Maybe the Bills aren't in a position to hire a great head coach, but it doesn't look too impressive. Of course, every so often, a great coach seems to come out of nowhere.

I agree, this is not the answer. Lovie, Wiz, and even waiting for Kelly were better options. Why is it so sexy to go get a guy who has never been a head coach at this level over someone who has SB experience. Not good for installing a winning thought to a losing city for years.

"SB experience"...my God, why not hire Bill Callahan then? The '08 Cardinals were blown out in numerous game and miraculously got 2 home playoff games thanks to playing in a garbage division. People act like they were a juggernaut because they competed in the Super Bowl.

So they went cheap and with a local guy to pander to the fans. Typical Bills. Might as well bookmark this for when they start their next head coach search 3-4 years from now.

Hardly pandering. In participating in both season-long Bills threads in a Cuse forum and vice versa, you can hear crickets in both for the most part. Cuse nation probably has more Giants fans than Bills.

In many ways, the college game is very different from the pros; the principal one being that it depends more on recruiting. So it isn't necessarily an indictment of his coaching, it may simply be that he and his staff were not able to attract the top recruits. On the other hand, in the pro game you have the same pool of talent as all the other teams, and you don't have to attract them; you just need to identify them. Sure draft position plays a part, but after you make your pick, 31 other teams have access to the same pool. Different set of skills in some ways, for you and your staff.

Yah I mean, it's kinda sad that this painfully obvious point needs to be made. Hey lets hire Mack Brown - he has an awesome record so he must be good? Just forget that his players are better than 95% of his opponents I guess...

 

[GroveDiesel]

It's after the fact, so who knows if it's true or just info being put out by one of the parties, but Schefter reported last night that Marrone had done extensive film study on the teams with job openings that had interest in him and felt that the Bills had the most talent of all of them. Supposedly not a case of the Bills settling for a guy that is just desperate to get into the NFL, but a guy that truly had the Bills as his first choice.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

I'm going to reserve judgement on the hire until I see what he has in mind on the defensive side of the ball. His choice of d-coordinator will have a huge impact on the success of this team. I'm not sure how his brand of discipline that he brought to SU will translate to paid NFL players but again the guy does have an NFL backround so I will give him the benefit of the doubt about that as well. Nassib sure looks the part of a prototypical QB with the requisite frame and arm strength. He's maybe an inch or 2 smaller than I might like but I'm not going to nitpick about a couple of inches when you've had qb's with awfully good success who are around 6 foot or so. I can't say I've watched him or the Orange a lot this year but it sounds like they could do a lot worse in this draft.

 

[Jason Wood]

I really think you can't judge any hire at the time. If there was an easy recipe for projecting NFL success among head coaches, every owner would follow the blueprint. Bill Belichick was a retread who struggled in Cleveland. Tom Coughlin was an old cranky guy that had a good but not all that great run in Jacksonville. Jim Harbaugh was the NFL QB turned college coach turned instant NFL success. His brother John was a special teams coordinator before getting the job. The Colts had a miraculous season being run by a 60-year old OC that the Steelers couldn't wait to get rid of the year before. Andy Reid was a QB coach (for Brett Favre of all people) with no play-calling experience when the Eagles hired him. Sean Payton had his play-calling duties taken away from him on two different teams before landing the Saints job. You just never know.

 

[alg]

Gekko, that was one hell of a post. Thank you.

 

[Sam Quentin]

The cynic in me wonders if Marrone is getting out now because once Nassib leaves the offense is going to go to ####.

Even though I'm of the opinion that the Bills job was the least attractive opening available (and yes, I'm including Cleveland), but still... who the hell doesn't leave Syracuse for the NFL regardless of whether or not you're losing a transcendent talent like Nassib (for the record, I did not know the name of the Syracuse QB before opening this thread)?

Honestly, it's more an indictment of you that you didn't know who Nassib was than on Nassib/Syracuse/Marrone.

Step away from the keyboard. Indictment of me; you're delusional.

no Delusional is the poster in the RGIII thread that thinks he started "RGKnee."

 

[IvanKaramazov]

As I've learned about Doug Marrone the past couple of days, I'm extremely happy with this hire. At a bare minimum, it's a nice change of pace to hire a guy who wasn't just canned by another team and who other teams actually wanted. Beyond that, though, we all knew right from the beginning that our last two coaches had rather low ceilings, to say the least. Marrone might end up flaming out -- a lot of promising-looking coaches do -- but at least you can see this guy putting up a winning record which is a big improvement over Jauron and Gailey.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Gekko, that was one hell of a post. Thank you.

Awesome post. Thank you, indeed.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I love the hire.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

From Rotoworld

Bills Offense - TM - Bills Bills hired Nathaniel Hackett as offensive coordinator.A former Bills assistant, Hackett spent the past two years as new coach Doug Marrone's offensive coordinator at Syracuse. According to WGR 550 Buffalo's Joe Buscaglia, the Bills "loved" Hackett during his time in Buffalo. Hackett is just 33 years old. Hackett and Marrone oversaw the Big East's number one offense in 2012, and favor a balanced approach. Hackett's hiring will further fuel speculation that Buffalo will target Orange signal caller Ryan Nassib in the draft.

 

[Steed]

He runs a variation of the kgun, spiller owners should be excited

 

[ScottNorwood]

Who is the next hire? Jim Boeheim?

 

[Jason Wood]

Who is the next hire? Jim Boeheim?

To Hackett's credit, Marrone said he wasn't going to call plays, so it makes sense he would bring aboard the right hand man who called plays for him at Syracuse. Let's remember that while the Big East is not what it used to be, Hackett's offense was the top ranked squad in the Big East this year and he's helped turn Ryan Nassib into a likely early round NFL draft choice. Hackett is also a former Bills assistant so he's not walking in blind.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

The K Gun was not an overly complicated offense. The success of the K gun in the 90's had a lot to do with the personnel the Bills had at the time who probably could have successfully run any number of offensive systems but Kelly's backround with the Run & Shoot made it more comfortable for him to run an uptempo attack. The Bills modified the run and shoot with a versatile TE so that they could also run some more traditional running plays with it. It sounds nice bringing that offense back out of mothballs but the Bills need to have a major upgrade at wr and te along with getting a qb to have any hope of success in running it again.

 

[Jason Wood]

Pettine hired as defensive coordinator https://twitter.com/mortreport/statuses/289009817975128065

 

[IvanKaramazov]

The Bills apparently hired Pettine as their DC, and he's brining the Jets' DB coach with him. I really like the changes to the organization and coaching staff -- great off-season so far.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

I thought the DB coach for the Jets was named the new D coordinator in NY.Either way, I'm psyched about the move. I'm a little worried he might try to move us back to a 3-4 type D when we have the right guys for a 4-3. But you know the guy likes to bring the pressure and will certainly be calling plenty of blitzes.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

The Jets defensive backs assistant that is reportedly coming to Buffalo is Jim O'Neil. Dennis Thurman is the Jets defensive backs coach who looks like he'll slide into Pettine's spot as the new Jets DC. You've definitely gotta give Marrone his props here. The guy had a plan for his staff and he's executing it in style. Rex Ryan can't be happy about this development at all. When Ryan and Pettine were in Baltimore, didn't they run a hybrid of the 3-4 which included some 4-3 looks with different personnel packages?

 

[GroveDiesel]

The Bills can't possibly go to a 3-4 after giving making a 4-3 DE the highest paid defensive player in the league just a year ago, right? That would be a major red flag about the new staff if that were to happen. I want coaches that can be flexible and use the system that works best for their personnel. At least until they bring in new personnel.And Buffalo certainly doesn't have the LBers to play a 3-4. Their LBers were by far their weakest defensive link last year.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Ravens were always more versatile and shifted between the 4-3 and 3-4. The 3-4 definitely fit the talent they put together better with the Jets but I have to assume they will stick with a 4-3 as their base in Buffalo.Love how aggressive the Bills are being this year. Filling the staff quickly is much better than waiting and winding up with scraps.

 

[DiStefano]

Ravens were always more versatile and shifted between the 4-3 and 3-4. The 3-4 definitely fit the talent they put together better with the Jets but I have to assume they will stick with a 4-3 as their base in Buffalo.Love how aggressive the Bills are being this year. Filling the staff quickly is much better than waiting and winding up with scraps.

Agreed. Very impressive start.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Ravens were always more versatile and shifted between the 4-3 and 3-4. The 3-4 definitely fit the talent they put together better with the Jets but I have to assume they will stick with a 4-3 as their base in Buffalo.Love how aggressive the Bills are being this year. Filling the staff quickly is much better than waiting and winding up with scraps.

Not sure they had to rush to get Hackett. Seems like an awfully big jump for him. At least we know Marrone will feel comfortable with him, they work together well and share the same vision. We'll see if he's up to the task of overhauling a bad NFL offense soon.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Ravens were always more versatile and shifted between the 4-3 and 3-4. The 3-4 definitely fit the talent they put together better with the Jets but I have to assume they will stick with a 4-3 as their base in Buffalo.Love how aggressive the Bills are being this year. Filling the staff quickly is much better than waiting and winding up with scraps.

Not sure they had to rush to get Hackett. Seems like an awfully big jump for him. At least we know Marrone will feel comfortable with him, they work together well and share the same vision. We'll see if he's up to the task of overhauling a bad NFL offense soon.

That's kinda how I feel. Why rush with the hiring of Hackett? We could've went out and tried to hire the best of the best and if we didn't snag anyone then Hackett would've still been there for us. He wasn't going anywhere. The quick hiring of Pettine was probably needed and I'm glad we got him. I'm just hoping he can work with the talent we have and not force our guys to play outside of their comfort. I know he can, but Mario should not have to play LB. And I think Marcel makes a better DT than 3-4 DE. Let's see though. The guy has been successful so I'm willing to trust whatever he does.

 

[Kyle_Wright]

Ravens were always more versatile and shifted between the 4-3 and 3-4. The 3-4 definitely fit the talent they put together better with the Jets but I have to assume they will stick with a 4-3 as their base in Buffalo.Love how aggressive the Bills are being this year. Filling the staff quickly is much better than waiting and winding up with scraps.

Not sure they had to rush to get Hackett. Seems like an awfully big jump for him. At least we know Marrone will feel comfortable with him, they work together well and share the same vision. We'll see if he's up to the task of overhauling a bad NFL offense soon.

Hackett worked for the Bill's... His dad is a legendary HC also (Paul Hackett)

 

[SacramentoBob]

He may be good-- How many people expected Schiano to do anything?

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

It looks like Marrone did need to act very fast to secure Hackett.

Hackett was "minutes" away from inking a new deal at SU