downgrade GLENN upgrade TO? (1 Viewer)

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I remember a few weeks back when TO was whining on the sidelines while being consoled by who.....T.ROMO. He was just there patting him on his back like he was a lil baby...

Romo is an unknown compared to the creature TO is.....and knows where to throw the ball to keep this BEAST happy. Where as Bledsoe didnt give a ####....he was gonna throw to Glenn the guy who he was most comfortable with.

Anyone else see this coming?

I will also say this i think Witten will become a factor again.

 

[LivingTheDream]

I remember a few weeks back when TO was whining on the sidelines while being consoled by who.....T.ROMO. He was just there patting him on his back like he was a lil baby...Romo is an unknown compared to the creature TO is.....and knows where to throw the ball to keep this BEAST happy. Where as Bledsoe didnt give a ####....he was gonna throw to Glenn the guy who he was most comfortable with.Anyone else see this coming?I will also say this i think Witten will become a factor again.

But more importantly, Romo has a little mobility. TO is used to mobile QBs (Young, Garcia, McNabb). Should bode well.

 

[Wheelhouse]

I think this is a valid statement, including the Witten part - IF Romo stays at QB.

 

[SickThing]

For one, the Romo era isn't confirmed yet. We'll see if he improves with more first team practices and possibly starts. I give that a better than 50% chance.

T.O. is due to improve regardless of who is QB. He got off to a slow start because his routes and timing were barely practiced with the new team in the preseason while he was sidelined with hammy troubles. It didn't help that he broke his hand just a few weeks later.

Bledsoe and Glenn on the other hand have had timing worked out together for years. This is where your point has some validity. Bledsoe and Glenn clicked right at the beginning of the season. With T.O. getting better fitted into the offense, the numbers will shift some. But I don't think a QB change is too responsible there.

I do not see Witten getting much action. He needs to continue helping block along with the poor line.

 

[Avery]

For one, the Romo era isn't confirmed yet. We'll see if he improves with more first team practices and possibly starts. I give that a better than 50% chance.

T.O. is due to improve regardless of who is QB. He got off to a slow start because his routes and timing were barely practiced with the new team in the preseason while he was sidelined with hammy troubles. It didn't help that he broke his hand just a few weeks later.

Bledsoe and Glenn on the other hand have had timing worked out together for years. This is where your point has some validity. Bledsoe and Glenn clicked right at the beginning of the season. With T.O. getting better fitted into the offense, the numbers will shift some. But I don't think a QB change is too responsible there.

I do not see Witten getting much action. He needs to continue helping block along with the poor line.

Not looking at stats or anything, but it appeared that Romo looked to Witten as a safety value on a few critical conversions.Perhaps a QB who is inexperienced and scrambling will look for his closest/underneath receiver who is often the TE.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I know he isnt the starter for SURE just saying i can see him favoring to TO cause of the type of player TO is. He isnt hardly ever happy and what will happen when TO gets to barking in his face about not getting many balls his way.

Just something i was looking at a few weeks back.

Now i always have liked TO, but i dont like what he does on the sidelines to players and coaches. Thats not called for and he's being doing that for years. And he will probaly continue it. Any people think Parcells can control him is fooling themselves....why cause TO had Jerry Jones backing him and he's over the coach. A coach that wont be there too long anyways.

Im just saying....could be wrong though i just have that feeling.

I should say it better like this: TO targets will go WAY up if ROMO is the qb from here on out.

 

[Banger]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO, off the field that's an entirely different matter. They both will have the same crappy line. Bledsoe's problem is he's not mobile enough to bide time while TO gets open downfield. Romo has that ability.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

thats true banger.

 

[redman]

I think you're on to something. It's also worth noting that TO tends to run underneath and crossing routes, in other words routes that lends themselves well to bailing out a QB feeling pass rush pressure. Glenn stretches the field but as such is farther downfield and less available to give help to Romo on the fly.

 

[SickThing]

It's also worth noting that T.O. already had a 3 TD game this year with Bledsoe, so calling for an upgrade now is a little late.

 

[redman]

It's also worth noting that T.O. already had a 3 TD game this year with Bledsoe, so calling for an upgrade now is a little late.

The third TD was thrown by Romo.

 

[SickThing]

It's also worth noting that T.O. already had a 3 TD game this year with Bledsoe, so calling for an upgrade now is a little late.

The third TD was thrown by Romo.

My bad. I had forgot Romo got some garbage time there. Still I think a lot of people are thinking tonight was the changing of the guard, but Romo wasn't the hot hand tonight either. Only one of his drives looked really mistake free. Bledsoe has a great looking drive out of every few also. I still expect T.O.'s numbers are on the way up regardless who starts. T.O. better with Romo? Maybe slightly, but I'm not sure we should be jumping to the conclusion that we'll find out too soon.

 

[Ilov80s]

I think TO is gold regardless of the QB.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

 

[Your Mom]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

Agreed. Torry holt/Steve Smith don't drop a critical pass on 4th down when they are wide open and the ball hits there arms. TO is a awesome WR but not the best.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

Agreed. Torry holt/Steve Smith don't drop a critical pass on 4th down when they are wide open and the ball hits there arms. TO is a awesome WR but not the best.

He should have had that other ball where he got hit on. Instead of catching it with his hands, he was afraid of the hit (it seemed) and had it hit off his shoulder (and probably still should have caught it).He seems to drop a ball or two every week.I have also watched him not break up poorly thrown balls. That is unacceptable.Steve Smith is flat-out a better WR than Owens.

 

[BigTex]

It's also worth noting that T.O. already had a 3 TD game this year with Bledsoe, so calling for an upgrade now is a little late.

The third TD was thrown by Romo.

My bad. I had forgot Romo got some garbage time there. Still I think a lot of people are thinking tonight was the changing of the guard, but Romo wasn't the hot hand tonight either. Only one of his drives looked really mistake free. Bledsoe has a great looking drive out of every few also. I still expect T.O.'s numbers are on the way up regardless who starts. T.O. better with Romo? Maybe slightly, but I'm not sure we should be jumping to the conclusion that we'll find out too soon.

Romo will get better in time, he had alot of time with the first team in mini camp, and during the preseason. He's been on the team for four years. Romo played a damn good NYG team on "MONDAY NIGHT" how were we really expecting him to play in a game like this? Especially considering he only play 1 1/2. Bill has been hinting for the last three weeks that a change will come.We've been saying it all season, Romo is the real deal. I'm casting my lot with Romo.

 

[inca911]

TO did have two clear drops last night. He's a top WR, just not the best WR.

 

[PMENFAN]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO, off the field that's an entirely different matter. They both will have the same crappy line. Bledsoe's problem is he's not mobile enough to bide time while TO gets open downfield. Romo has that ability.

Bledsoe sees the pressure coming, not the play developing doenfield. I think Romo will get the ball to TO more. And TO's experience and recognizing QB's in trouble, and coming back will benefit both. I think TO is an upgrade. Glenn is neutral, and Witten gets more looks. I'd say probably 6-8 more passin plays a game that used to be dead are now back in play because of his mobility. Not all will be completions, but probably 2-3 used to be sacks, 2-3 were thrown into the ground, and the rest were just Drew heaving the ball out of bounds to get rid of it. Romos mobility open up the possibility of success on these plays, and most likely that's TO, Witten or even Julie S seeing the opportunity.

 

[The Tick]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

Agreed. Torry holt/Steve Smith don't drop a critical pass on 4th down when they are wide open and the ball hits there arms. TO is a awesome WR but not the best.

He should have had that other ball where he got hit on. Instead of catching it with his hands, he was afraid of the hit (it seemed) and had it hit off his shoulder (and probably still should have caught it).He seems to drop a ball or two every week.I have also watched him not break up poorly thrown balls. That is unacceptable.Steve Smith is flat-out a better WR than Owens.

It's amazing how everyone notices when Owens does something bad, like oh my god, dropping a pass, and when Steve Smith does it, no one mentions a thing. IIRC, Steve Smith has dropped at least 3 in the last two week, one being in the end zone for a touchdown, and yes, they were basically hit him in the hands/numbers type passes.I'm not a TO fan, but the TO hatred is just going too far.

 

[PMENFAN]

TO did have two clear drops last night. He's a top WR, just not the best WR.

Everybody, including Jerry Rice, drops balls. It happens. I disagree. I hate TO's antics, and what he does to a team, but I don't even think it's close. On the field, and as a player, TO is at least a full head above everybody else at the position. This is based mainly on his ability to seperate before the catch, and what he can do after the catch. I'd rate Torry Holt #2, and Smith/Harrison #3.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

Agreed. Torry holt/Steve Smith don't drop a critical pass on 4th down when they are wide open and the ball hits there arms. TO is a awesome WR but not the best.

He should have had that other ball where he got hit on. Instead of catching it with his hands, he was afraid of the hit (it seemed) and had it hit off his shoulder (and probably still should have caught it).He seems to drop a ball or two every week.I have also watched him not break up poorly thrown balls. That is unacceptable.Steve Smith is flat-out a better WR than Owens.

It's amazing how everyone notices when Owens does something bad, like oh my god, dropping a pass, and when Steve Smith does it, no one mentions a thing. IIRC, Steve Smith has dropped at least 3 in the last two week, one being in the end zone for a touchdown, and yes, they were basically hit him in the hands/numbers type passes.I'm not a TO fan, but the TO hatred is just going too far.

Everybody drops passes. The best receivers don't drop a wide open 4th and 2 when your team needs you to make that catch. It could be acceptable for 99% of the receivers, but not for a receiver who spends the entire game #####ing at everybody on his team, but then smiles and laughs when he screws up.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

Agreed. Torry holt/Steve Smith don't drop a critical pass on 4th down when they are wide open and the ball hits there arms. TO is a awesome WR but not the best.

He should have had that other ball where he got hit on. Instead of catching it with his hands, he was afraid of the hit (it seemed) and had it hit off his shoulder (and probably still should have caught it).He seems to drop a ball or two every week.I have also watched him not break up poorly thrown balls. That is unacceptable.Steve Smith is flat-out a better WR than Owens.

It's amazing how everyone notices when Owens does something bad, like oh my god, dropping a pass, and when Steve Smith does it, no one mentions a thing. IIRC, Steve Smith has dropped at least 3 in the last two week, one being in the end zone for a touchdown, and yes, they were basically hit him in the hands/numbers type passes.I'm not a TO fan, but the TO hatred is just going too far.

Everybody drops passes. The best receivers don't drop a wide open 4th and 2 when your team needs you to make that catch. It could be acceptable for 99% of the receivers, but not for a receiver who spends the entire game #####ing at everybody on his team, but then smiles and laughs when he screws up.

Umm, Yes they do. You saw one of the best in the game do it last night. TO also made some very nice grabs last night as well.

 

[redman]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

Agreed. Torry holt/Steve Smith don't drop a critical pass on 4th down when they are wide open and the ball hits there arms. TO is a awesome WR but not the best.

He should have had that other ball where he got hit on. Instead of catching it with his hands, he was afraid of the hit (it seemed) and had it hit off his shoulder (and probably still should have caught it).He seems to drop a ball or two every week.I have also watched him not break up poorly thrown balls. That is unacceptable.Steve Smith is flat-out a better WR than Owens.

It's amazing how everyone notices when Owens does something bad, like oh my god, dropping a pass, and when Steve Smith does it, no one mentions a thing. IIRC, Steve Smith has dropped at least 3 in the last two week, one being in the end zone for a touchdown, and yes, they were basically hit him in the hands/numbers type passes.I'm not a TO fan, but the TO hatred is just going too far.

Talking in absolutes usually gets us nowhere, and this is an example. TO doesn't drop every ball thrown his way any more than Steve Smith catches every ball thrown his way. But TO does drop an inordinate number of passes given his stature as a WR. He is not as sure handed as are Holt or Harrison. What he is is explosive, meaning he's capable of turning a 12-yard crossing route into a 60-yard TD. Those are just the facts.

 

[KiddLattimer]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

Agreed. Torry holt/Steve Smith don't drop a critical pass on 4th down when they are wide open and the ball hits there arms. TO is a awesome WR but not the best.

He should have had that other ball where he got hit on. Instead of catching it with his hands, he was afraid of the hit (it seemed) and had it hit off his shoulder (and probably still should have caught it).He seems to drop a ball or two every week.

I have also watched him not break up poorly thrown balls. That is unacceptable.

Steve Smith is flat-out a better WR than Owens.

I think Smith is better than Owens by a small margin, but TO is a physical freak who has advantages that Smith does not. They are really Apples and Oranges.

 

[Dt's Mules]

Any decent QB would be stupid not to throw to him. On the field he's the best wr in the game IMO,

Totally disagree...not with hands like that he ain't.

Agreed. Torry holt/Steve Smith don't drop a critical pass on 4th down when they are wide open and the ball hits there arms. TO is a awesome WR but not the best.

He should have had that other ball where he got hit on. Instead of catching it with his hands, he was afraid of the hit (it seemed) and had it hit off his shoulder (and probably still should have caught it).He seems to drop a ball or two every week.

I have also watched him not break up poorly thrown balls. That is unacceptable.

Steve Smith is flat-out a better WR than Owens.

all true especially the bolded part.