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The unrealistic part is keeping Odom. If the CP3 + Dwight fantasy was to come true, Odom would definitely be gone.
Chris Broussard is on ESPN right now saying the Lakers are very serious in trying to acquire Howard AND Paul."Everyone except Kobe is available."This is a Laker thread, but at least be semi realistic.
Chris Broussard is on ESPN right now saying the Lakers are very serious in trying to acquire Howard AND Paul."Everyone except Kobe is available."
Get'r done, Mitch.
Every team in the league has talked to NO about Chris Paul
Yep, the Clippers just play to a crowd that's 1500 short of selling out.
Doubtful. Link?
FYP.
Chris Broussard is on ESPN right now saying the Lakers are very serious in trying to acquire Howard AND Paul."Everyone except Kobe is available."
Really?The best PG in the league is on the trading block and you dont think every team has called to see if they could work something out?
No, I don't. What could the Miami Heat possibly offer that they'd be willing to give up?
No we don't, at least not on paper.
Wait, what? Of course they'd all have to be included (plus probably more), and of course the Lakers should do whatever it takes to get them.
Nope.
I suppose they would have to inquire to see what exactly New Orleans is looking for.
Why? NO wouldn't trade Paul to Miami unless Wade or Lebron was involved, not to mention that Miami couldn't afford Paul unless one of those guys was included. That's not going to happen so Miami isn't going to waste anyone's time by making the inquiry.
Kobe, Paul and Howard on the same team would be incredible. The only way it happens (and I don't think it does) this year is if the Hornets will settle for Bynum and change and the Magic will settle for Gasol, Odom and change. There'd have to be some serious contract shuffling as well. I don't think there's any way this happens. The more (though not much more) likely scenario is they deal for one this year and sign the other as a FA next offseason. I don't know if/how the Lakers could clear enough salary space to do it, considering they'd likely have to eat a nasty contract in the trade.
OK, maybe there are 3 or 4 teams that haven't inquired. The point was that the fact that the Lakers inquired is not newsworthy. Most teams have inquired.
The Lakers trying to get BOTH players and saying they're willing to give up anyone on their roster besides Kobe is not newsworthy? Even when for years they've refused to give up Bynum?
most teams <> every team. So you are wrong. I also doubt the Bulls want to swap PG.
It is noteworthy for a number of reasons:1) If the Lakers were to pull this off it would be a bigger coup than Miami made last year, not to mention make a bunch of Lakers haters consider committing suicide. 2) It doesn't matter if a team like Milwaukee inquires. Paul absolutely will not go to Milwaukee, and since no trade is going to happen unless he's willing to sign an extension with the other team there are a limited number of teams with a realistic chance of acquiring him. The Lakers are one such team.3) This is the LAKERS thread. It's purpose is to discuss the LAKERS. This would qualify.
Yeah, lots of parity in that "golden age." You've really captured the essence of the NBA.
If had cheaply enough, the Bulls could definitely run out a back court of Paul at PG and Rose at SG and have some success with that. They would probably have some bumps in the road as they were figuring it out, but that back court would be infinitely better than one that includes Bogans.most teams <> every team. So you are wrong. I also doubt the Bulls want to swap PG.
I think Stuckey and Barea would be upgrades.
You cite the "Golden Age" of Bird/Magic/Jordan and then claim that the NBA has lost its' way because of insufficient parity (one season after the Dallas Mavericks won the championship)? Your argument is internally incoherent.'Chadstroma said:
Shannon Brown opted out of his contract and both he and the Lakers expect he will get better offers than what the Lakers can offer. He's probably gone.
You're right that it probably won't happen, but this won't be the reason. Getting Howard and Paul would make the Lakers brand even more valuable than it is currently. The amount they would lose in some contract would be more than made up for by the revenue this would generate.'Gr00vus said:
I'm talking about cap space rules, not Buss's pockets. I have to imagine both Orlando and New Orleans would like to ship out some bad deals along with their superstars, but the Lakers can't absorb that many more big contracts under the cap without shedding some undesirables of their own. I have a hard time believing both deals get done and the only stinker contract they have to fit in is Turkoglu's, Skribbles's brilliant work with the trade machine not withstanding.Also, Buss already got his big T.V. payday, they've made it to the finals 3 of the last 4 years and they already sell out every game - how much more revenue will they generate via this deal? Is it going to come along with a hike in ticket prices? More advertising the Lakers get paid for somehow? The Laker girls already have a separate sponsor for each of the 600,000 costumes they wear during a game.
Personally, I would prefer a Bynum/Odom for Howard/Turk deal. They wouldn't be able to amnesty Turkoglu though with the CBA rules (can't amnesty a traded player).I would assume in a Paul deal it would end up being something like Bynum/Odom for Paul/Okafor, so the Lakers would get another big body back.Team AFish/Blake/FA FodderKobeMWPGasolBynum6 - OdomTeam BFish/Blake/FA FodderKobeMWP (or Turk)GasolHoward6 - Turk (or MWP)Team CPaulKobeMWPGasolOkafor6 - Barnes/Mid Level FA?
Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard that the Lakers TV contract is bigger than each of the other Western Conference teams.....COMBINED.
The conservative estimate for the value of the deal (assuming the option to extend is not exercised) s 4 billion over 20 years, 200 million a year. I don't know what the other teams' t.v. contracts are, but that's a pretty big meatball.
That's nuts.Do the Lakers have their own network or do they show their games on something like Fox Sports?
I think there are teams that have annual deals of less than 10 million. I think the Celtics just signed one that nets them ~40 million a year.
I know people like to bash Laker fans, but just consider that this deal is basically built on our backs as testimony to the idea that we're actually a pretty solid fan base.
Haters can hate, but as a Laker fan I LOVED that from Bynum. It was his "#### EVERYBODY" moment. We've been waiting for it for a few years now.I'm in favor of moving Bynum for Howard and/or Paul, but if it doesn't happen, I'm not stressing. I think this is the year the Bynum monster erupts and he's the starting C in the All Star game putting up beast numbers.
