Draft coin flip question (1 Viewer)

[FunkyPlutos]

I know that it is better to have a higher pick, but does the team have the choice of their pick if they "win" the toss?

Let's say the top two teams flip for the #1 overall. Team A has a good young QB and the consensus is that the best player (without question) is a QB. Team A wins the toss and knows that the Team B is going to take the QB because they need it and know they would get the player they want at #2 and don't have to pay #1 money, so they say we will pick #2. Can this happen, or does the "winner" automatically pick higher?

Just wondering.

 

[redman]

Honestly, why does it matter given that, in this situation, you apparently know who is going to end up with what player?

Is it a multi-round draft?

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Honestly, why does it matter given that, in this situation, you apparently know who is going to end up with what player?Is it a multi-round draft?

I am talking about the actual NFL draft.

 

[redman]

Honestly, why does it matter given that, in this situation, you apparently know who is going to end up with what player?Is it a multi-round draft?

I am talking about the actual NFL draft.

I believe the winner always gets the higher pick. Why wouldn't they? Also, why wouldn't they choose the higher pick even assuming they could given that they'll be getting the higher pick in every round, no?

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I think they alternate them from round to round.

 

[LondonGold]

For whatever it is worth....I believe that if team A has a higher pick than team B due to a coin flip and they prefer drafting later all they have to due is exceed the time limit on draft selections . Then, they would be on the clock again after another team makes a selection.

 

[encaitar]

For whatever it is worth....I believe that if team A has a higher pick than team B due to a coin flip and they prefer drafting later all they have to due is exceed the time limit on draft selections . Then, they would be on the clock again after another team makes a selection.

Mike Tice, is that you?

 

[renesauz]

Every once in a while somebody posts something so incredibly dumb that it makes me fear for the human race.

This appears to be one of those times!

 

[massraider]

Every once in a while somebody posts something so incredibly dumb that it makes me fear for the human race.This appears to be one of those times!

Man, little harsh.Might not be the most interesting question of all time, but incredibly dumb? Scenario: Raiders have the #1 pick this year, and are flipping a coin with the Dolphins. The Fins want Matt Ryan. The Raiders have JaMarcus. The Fins save a lot of money if Ryan is the #2 guy, as opposed to #1.Now, it's far-fetched, but I could possibly see a scenario where the fins take #2. Doubtful, because there's the possibility that a team trades in front of them, etc.But with the cost of top 5 picks, not a stupid question.

 

[redman]

For whatever it is worth....I believe that if team A has a higher pick than team B due to a coin flip and they prefer drafting later all they have to due is exceed the time limit on draft selections . Then, they would be on the clock again after another team makes a selection.

Problem- the teams who have done this have still IIRC had to pay the players they ended up with the "slotted" amount of salary and bonus.

 

[massraider]

For whatever it is worth....I believe that if team A has a higher pick than team B due to a coin flip and they prefer drafting later all they have to due is exceed the time limit on draft selections . Then, they would be on the clock again after another team makes a selection.

Problem- the teams who have done this have still IIRC had to pay the players they ended up with the "slotted" amount of salary and bonus.

Hmm, I didn't think that was the case. I thought Kevin Williams wound up getting less than Jordan Gross that year.

 

[renesauz]

For whatever it is worth....I believe that if team A has a higher pick than team B due to a coin flip and they prefer drafting later all they have to due is exceed the time limit on draft selections . Then, they would be on the clock again after another team makes a selection.

Problem- the teams who have done this have still IIRC had to pay the players they ended up with the "slotted" amount of salary and bonus.

Hmm, I didn't think that was the case. I thought Kevin Williams wound up getting less than Jordan Gross that year.

Agents see through these things though...see Reggie Bush.One pick position will have little or no impact on the amount of money earned if the "consensus" is that the QB SHOULD have been the first pick (ala Bush/Mario.) That means that, in the end, there is no financial advantage to be gained by dropping a slot or two SOLELY because you "know YOUR guy will still be there"...there has to be another reason, some other CLEAR gain to take the chance....like the person at #2 feared you'd take their guy at 1, so trade his 3rd round pick for the right.Perhaps my first post was too harsh, but it was still a silly question.ETA: See next post!

 

[renesauz]

Every once in a while somebody posts something so incredibly dumb that it makes me fear for the human race.This appears to be one of those times!

Man, little harsh.Might not be the most interesting question of all time, but incredibly dumb? Scenario: Raiders have the #1 pick this year, and are flipping a coin with the Dolphins. The Fins want Matt Ryan. The Raiders have JaMarcus. The Fins save a lot of money if Ryan is the #2 guy, as opposed to #1.Now, it's far-fetched, but I could possibly see a scenario where the fins take #2. Doubtful, because there's the possibility that a team trades in front of them, etc.But with the cost of top 5 picks, not a stupid question.

ON third review...I was right the first time. The question was posed as if the team would intentionally choose the #2 draft position given the opportunity to take #1.....it's not about who they would pick. No GM in his right mind would choose the #2 position. He'd take #1 and THEN try to trade down and get something extra for it, knowing if he failed to do so, he still could get HIS guy. (And with only one slot difference...no significant change in money spent)

 

[JAA]

I would be interested in hearing what the rules say on this. I think its becoming ever more clear that the #1 pick is more often than not a team buster than maker. I mean, look at SF ... Alex Smith. Bust. Houston ... Carr bust. All that money committed to one player. Doesnt make sense.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

In regards to this years draft, if the two teams were OAK and KC, there is no way in He-- they would let the other have the higher pick....too much animosity there. Al Davis loves screwing the Chiefs, and vice versa with the Hunt family.