Draft Fantasy Winners & Losers (2 Viewers)

[chook]

Couldn't find one of these yet.

It's a pretty scratchy list - there's plenty out there that I've obviously missed, so chuck some others down and I'll add them in. I haven't included rookies, just current players whose value has risen or dropped as players are/aren't drafted to their respective teams.

Winners

QB

Alex Smith - Big help with D-Jax & Staley additions

Jon Kitna (2007) - Calvin Johnson to throw to. Stanton won't competer this year

Tavaris Jackson - Vikes passed on Quinn & ADP in backfield

Drew Brees - Meachem is another great target in this already potent offense

Tom Brady - Randy Moss is better than Jabar Gaffney

Peyton Manning - Gonzalez will be yet another weapon for Peyton, even when Marvin eventually goes

Matt Leinart - Levi Brown will provide better needed protection

Rex Grossman - Olsen will be someone else he can look to throw to before he fumbles the ball

RB

Jamal Lewis - No RB's taken, Joe Thomas in

Edgerrin James - Levi Brown in; no ADP

Joseph Addai - No RB's taken to split carries

Jerious Norwood & Warrick Dunn - No RB's taken to split carries

Lawrence Maroney - No RB's taken to split carries

Steven Jackson - Brian Leonard to smash holes for him - but also on 'losers' side as he may lose carries

Carnell Williams - No ADP & improved OL

Willis McGahee - Improved OL

Frank Gore - D-Jax & Staley additions have to help

WR

Braylon Edwards - Joe Thomas, Brady Quinn in

Jerry Porter/Ronald Curry - JaMarcus throwing to them

Mike Williams - New team, fresh start?

Reggie Brown - No WR's bought in to compete

Donald Driver/Greg Jennings - No trade for Moss

Brandon Jones - No WR's taken, shows belief in the kid

DJ Hackett - D-Jax has gone down to San Fran

Randy Moss - Catching Brady's passes sure beats watching Andrew Walter get sacked behind te line

TE

Kellen Winslow II - See Edwards, Braylon

IDP

Freddy Keiaho - No LB's taken, should take June's WLB spot

DJ Williams - No LB's taken, should be the man in the middle

Vernon Davis - D-Jax's arrival should open the SF offense right up

Losers

QB

Andrew Walter - Was a loser anyway. JaMarcus eats guys like him for breakfast

Charlie Frye/Derek Anderson (dynasty) - Brady Quinn comes in

Cleo Lemon - Could be a winner with no Green trade yet, but Beck looks like QB of the future now

Vince Young - No new WR toys to play with

RB

Vernand Morency - Brandon Jackson to push for starting role

Chester Taylor - ADP comes to town

Anthony Thomas - Marshawn to start

Chris Perry - Kenny Irons waves bye-bye to Perry

Michael Turner - Didn't get traded anywhere to start

Chris Brown - GB & Buffalo took RB's early, trade value dies somewhat

Brian Westbrook? - Hunt to vulture goalline carries

LaMont Jordan/Dominic Rhodes - Go straight to 'loser' category with Bush addition

Steven Jackson - Brian Leonard may steal carries - but also on 'winners' side as he will also smash holes for S-Jax

WR

Mike Furrey - Type 'Calvin Johnson' into google

Derek Hagan/Marty Booker - They take Ted Ginn @ #9, they'd want to be using him

Devery Henderson/Terrance Copper - Robert Meachem should be a great #2 opposite Colston

Samie Parker - Dwayne Bowe killed what little value he may have had

Drew Carter - Jarrett & Robinson additions should cut into his numbers drastically

Ashley Lelie - D-Jax now #1 in SF

TE

Desmond Clark - I don't think the Bears took Olsen to block all that much

Dallas Clark - Gonzalez addition may result in fewer looks

IDP

James Anderson - Beason should take the WLB if Morgan is healthy

Angelo Crowell - Was slated as the MLB for the Bills before they took Poz. May end up at SLB

 

[Romulan]

IDP

LB Ruud (bucs)- No longer a starter, now he competes!

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Couldn't find one of these yet.

It's a pretty scratchy list - there's plenty out there that I've obviously missed, so chuck some others down and I'll add them in. I haven't included rookies, just current players whose value has risen or dropped after day 1.

Of course much could change today, but this is for now.

Winners

QB

Jon Kitna (2007)

Tavaris Jackson

RB

Jamal Lewis

Edgerrin James

LaMont Jordan/Dominic Rhodes

Joseph Addai

WR/TE

Braylon Edwards/Kellen Winslow II

Randy Moss/ Jerry Porter/Ronald Curry

IDP

Freddy Keiaho

DJ Williams

Losers

QB

Andrew Walter

Charlie Frye/Derek Anderson (dynasty)

Cleo Lemon

RB

Vernand Morency

Chester Taylor

Anthony Thomas

Chris Perry

WR/TE

Mike Furrey

Derek Hagan/Marty Booker

Devery Henderson/Terrance Copper

Desmond Clark

IDP

Dan Morgan

Angelo Crowell

I would add M. Turner to the LOZERS category, since he wasn't traded.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I think it was a mild win for Reggie Brown, because they had an opportunity to add a quality WR.

 

[chook]

IDPLB Ruud (bucs)- No longer a starter, now he competes!

I don't quite get you on this one. Are you saying that due to the Bucs drafting Quincy Black, Ruud has to now compete for his starting job?Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ruud is replacing Quarles at MLB, while Black seems to have been bought in to be groomed for one of the two outside positions, no?

 

[-OZ-]

Losers

IDP

Dan Morgan

Is Beason supposed to play the middle? If Morgan is healthy, Beason should play alongside him.

Or am I missing something else?

It's a reach, but I might add Mike Williams to the winners list, and I'm not sure about Curry. But then, I'm still thinking BMW has a chance to play in the NFL.

 

[chook]

Losers

IDP

Dan Morgan

Is Beason supposed to play the middle? If Morgan is healthy, Beason should play alongside him.

Or am I missing something else?

It's a reach, but I might add Mike Williams to the winners list, and I'm not sure about Curry. But then, I'm still thinking BMW has a chance to play in the NFL.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday, and you're right I guess. Here's what Jene had to say on the matter:

1.25 -- JON BEASON -- Carolina Panthers

Hmmm...I don't know if I want to speculate here.

Beason projects to OLB at 235 pounds, but so did DeMeco Ryans after the Texans drafted him. You have to think that the position of highest need across the LB is at Mike with Na'il Diggs and (theoretically) James Anderson battling to play Will. So...one of the two -- Anderson or Beason -- is the future Mike. I think Beason is the better player and the better playmaker. You'd have to think he's the early favorite at Mike, but I'm withholding judgment until the Panthers speak up.

Sure looks he could be the leader in the clubhouse for the #1 overall rookie backer right now though.

This is all assuming Dan Morgan doesn't make it out of camp. If Morgan is healthy, Beason plays the Will.

So I'll change that to James Anderson as one of the 'Losers' then.

 

[Buc Dude]

IDPLB Ruud (bucs)- No longer a starter, now he competes!

I don't quite get you on this one. Are you saying that due to the Bucs drafting Quincy Black, Ruud has to now compete for his starting job?Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ruud is replacing Quarles at MLB, while Black seems to have been bought in to be groomed for one of the two outside positions, no?

Apparently Black played the same hybrid middle LB/Safety position at New Mexico as Urlacher when he was there. At 240 lbs and 4.4 speed it seems he could fill either outside or inside. Rudd is suspect in pass coverage from what I've seen so far and if Black isn't competing with him who is? Bucs havn't said where yet, but I suspect Black gets on the field a lot this year at MLB. Training camp will tell.

 

[Blackjacks]

Couldn't find one of these yet.

It's a pretty scratchy list - there's plenty out there that I've obviously missed, so chuck some others down and I'll add them in. I haven't included rookies, just current players whose value has risen or dropped after day 1.

Of course much could change today, but this is for now.

Winners

QB

Jon Kitna (2007)

Tavaris Jackson

RB

Jamal Lewis

Edgerrin James

LaMont Jordan/Dominic Rhodes

Joseph Addai

WR/TE

Braylon Edwards/Kellen Winslow II

Randy Moss/ Jerry Porter/Ronald Curry

Mike Williams

Reggie Brown

IDP

Freddy Keiaho

DJ Williams

Losers

QB

Andrew Walter

Charlie Frye/Derek Anderson (dynasty)

Cleo Lemon

RB

Vernand Morency

Chester Taylor

Anthony Thomas

Chris Perry

Michael Turner

WR/TE

Mike Furrey

Derek Hagan/Marty Booker

Devery Henderson/Terrance Copper

Desmond Clark

IDP

James Anderson

Angelo Crowell

I would actually put him as a winner cause without drafting Quinn I would think that right now Cleo is the starter in Miami. Taking Beck in the 2nd is long term but as of right now, until they sign Green, Cleo is the man. I also think we can put Ronnie Brown as a winner cause in my opinion with Miami taking Booker in the 2nd round it tells me they aren't going to have Ricky in their plans.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I would add Lendale White as a "winner". Yes, TEN drafted a RB, but it could have been far worse for him than Chris Henry, plus the Turner deal looks to be officially dead. White's got a shot at taking the full-time job if he gets his act together this summer.

 

[Romulan]

IDPLB Ruud (bucs)- No longer a starter, now he competes!

I don't quite get you on this one. Are you saying that due to the Bucs drafting Quincy Black, Ruud has to now compete for his starting job?Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ruud is replacing Quarles at MLB, while Black seems to have been bought in to be groomed for one of the two outside positions, no?

Apparently Black played the same hybrid middle LB/Safety position at New Mexico as Urlacher when he was there. At 240 lbs and 4.4 speed it seems he could fill either outside or inside. Rudd is suspect in pass coverage from what I've seen so far and if Black isn't competing with him who is? Bucs havn't said where yet, but I suspect Black gets on the field a lot this year at MLB. Training camp will tell.

B Ruud is a servicable ok player. He had his chance last year and still could not win the job. The radio shows and sources in Tampa have been talking for a while now how they need to find a LB that has the ability to start in this defense. Ruud is no more then a quick fix till we find that guy.

 

[Guinis72]

I think Drew Brees would be a winner in this draft as well with the addition of Meachem, he was a lot of people's WR2 and should be a nice compliment to Colston. Alleman's not a bad G either.

I agree with LenDale as a winner as well, he couldn't have asked for better competition to allow him to win the job.

ETA: Jerious Norwood benefitted quite a bit too with no RB competition and the addition of Justin Blalock.

 

[RenegadeGM]

for now, I'd add Donald Driver and Greg Jennngs to the winners list, as Moss has not arrived in GB.

Not that it matters much, but what little was left of Samie Parker's value is probably gone.

 

[fsufan]

Couldn't find one of these yet.

It's a pretty scratchy list - there's plenty out there that I've obviously missed, so chuck some others down and I'll add them in. I haven't included rookies, just current players whose value has risen or dropped after day 1.

Of course much could change today, but this is for now.

Winners

QB

Jon Kitna (2007)

Tavaris Jackson

RB

Jamal Lewis

Edgerrin James

LaMont Jordan/Dominic Rhodes

Joseph Addai

WR/TE

Braylon Edwards/Kellen Winslow II

Randy Moss/ Jerry Porter/Ronald Curry

IDP

Freddy Keiaho

DJ Williams

Losers

QB

Andrew Walter

Charlie Frye/Derek Anderson (dynasty)

Cleo Lemon

RB

Vernand Morency

Chester Taylor

Anthony Thomas

Chris Perry

WR/TE

Mike Furrey

Derek Hagan/Marty Booker

Devery Henderson/Terrance Copper

Desmond Clark

IDP

Dan Morgan

Angelo Crowell

I would add M. Turner to the LOZERS category, since he wasn't traded.

if you are a LT and Tunrer owner in dynasty league, I say it is still a win as long as you have other RB depth, like I do.

 

[zamboni]

I'd add Brandon Jones to the winner category.

No meaningful addition at WR, and they didn't do much to upgrade their already questionable running game.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I would add Brandon Jacobs to the list of winners. They could've easily brought in a Day 1 RB to complement him and steal touches at the very least. They could still do that with an Antonio Pittman, perhaps, but it appears Jacobs is now the unquestioned full-time back.

 

[Capella]

IDPLB Ruud (bucs)- No longer a starter, now he competes!

you're 100% wrong on this

 

[H.K.]

Chris Brown was a huge loser because GB & Buf added RB's early.

 

[JoeSteeler]

I would add Brandon Jacobs to the list of winners. They could've easily brought in a Day 1 RB to complement him and steal touches at the very least. They could still do that with an Antonio Pittman, perhaps, but it appears Jacobs is now the unquestioned full-time back.

What about Droughns?

 

[BeTheMatch]

I would add Brandon Jacobs to the list of winners. They could've easily brought in a Day 1 RB to complement him and steal touches at the very least. They could still do that with an Antonio Pittman, perhaps, but it appears Jacobs is now the unquestioned full-time back.

What about Droughns?

What about him? He'll be a non-factor. He's basically done in this league. By this time next year, he probably won't be on an NFL roster.

 

[H.K.]

I would add Brandon Jacobs to the list of winners. They could've easily brought in a Day 1 RB to complement him and steal touches at the very least. They could still do that with an Antonio Pittman, perhaps, but it appears Jacobs is now the unquestioned full-time back.

The Giants added an FA who is one of only ten backs in the league to rush for over 1200 yards twice in the past three seasons, WTF would they draft an RB?

Jacobs was already the biggest loser in FA, whatever the Giants do during the draft is irrelevant.

 

[JetMaxx]

I'd add Westbrook to the Losers list. Tony Hunt will eventually take goalline touches. Not that Westbrook got all of them last year but Buck didn't prove to be a dependable short yardage guy so Reid wasn't always inclined to go away from Westbrook in short yardage situations. That will change this year with the gradual emergence of Hunt.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I would add Brandon Jacobs to the list of winners. They could've easily brought in a Day 1 RB to complement him and steal touches at the very least. They could still do that with an Antonio Pittman, perhaps, but it appears Jacobs is now the unquestioned full-time back.

The Giants added an FA who is one of only ten backs in the league to rush for over 1200 yards twice in the past three seasons, WTF would they draft an RB?

Jacobs was already the biggest loser in FA, whatever the Giants do during the draft is irrelevant.

You honestly think Reuben Droughns is going to be a factor? I don't. I think he'll occasionaly give Jacobs a breather. I could care less what he's done in the past. I don't think it's relevant anymore.

 

[renesauz]

I would add Brandon Jacobs to the list of winners. They could've easily brought in a Day 1 RB to complement him and steal touches at the very least. They could still do that with an Antonio Pittman, perhaps, but it appears Jacobs is now the unquestioned full-time back.

The Giants added an FA who is one of only ten backs in the league to rush for over 1200 yards twice in the past three seasons, WTF would they draft an RB?

Jacobs was already the biggest loser in FA, whatever the Giants do during the draft is irrelevant.

You honestly think Reuben Droughns is going to be a factor? I don't. I think he'll occasionaly give Jacobs a breather. I could care less what he's done in the past. I don't think it's relevant anymore.

I'm not a huge Droughns fan, and far less a Giants fan, but I would NOT be shocked to see Droughns the opening day starter, and Jacobs retaining the same role he had last year. That will be a full-blown battle in the pre-season. If I was forced to lay money on the winner of that battle, it would have to be on Jacobs, but I wouldn't be sleeping easy if it were any serious $$.

 

[Our Gang]

sjax with st louis adding a big time FB

 

[Titans_fan]

Gotta add Tom Brady to the winners list...they now have a great WR corps with the addition of Ramdy Moss.

 

[H.K.]

You honestly think Reuben Droughns is going to be a factor? I don't. I think he'll occasionaly give Jacobs a breather. I could care less what he's done in the past. I don't think it's relevant anymore.

OK, you got me with your fishing schtick, kudos to you, sir.

 

[Warhogs]

Gotta add Tom Brady to the winners list...they now have a great WR corps with the addition of Ramdy Moss.

They have done everything they can to give Brady a ton of weapons. Add to that losing Dillon and Brady may be throwing more with much better weapons.

 

[BeTheMatch]

You honestly think Reuben Droughns is going to be a factor? I don't. I think he'll occasionaly give Jacobs a breather. I could care less what he's done in the past. I don't think it's relevant anymore.

OK, you got me with your fishing schtick, kudos to you, sir.

Feel free to bump this thread next April!!

 

[Hooper31]

Winer: DJ Hackett

 

[EBF]

How about Vince Young as a loser? They had a great chance to pair him up with a legitimate WR and they failed miserably. Better hope Jones is for real and Givens is healthy.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Loser: Antonio Pittman

 

[chook]

Loser: Antonio Pittman

Only doing established players, not draftees.

 

[Mister CIA]

Reaching deep, but I'd add Drew Carter to the loser list.

Not a loser but, I wish Buffalo could have upgraded at WR #2 for the benefit of Lee Evans.

Not really a winner, but Noah Herron maintains a spot on deep rosters.

Will Chad Jackson benefit from taking a step back for a year? I kind of think he will. Definitely a buy very low kind of guy.

BMW - winner?

Last year's darling pick, Ben Watson - loser.

Alex Smith (QB) - very big winner - DJax (maybe), Jason Hill, a #1 pick on the o-line, plus his second year with Vernon Davis.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Caddy and McGahee OG's drafted early.

 

[massraider]

Winner: Josh McCown

 

[Keith Lewis]

Winner: Alex Smith, QB - Addition of Darrell Jackson, and also Joe Staley (Anyone who knows Kwame Harris will agree here)

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Interesting that the likely top fantasy picks at WR, RB & TE are all headed to the same division.

I disagree with B Watson being a "loser". He was the focus of most defensive game plans last year with NE's high school wr's. With Moss, Stallworth and co., he'll have the middle all to himself and while there's only one ball, I expect him to have a nice year.

One TE that will see his numbers effected by the draft is Dallas Clark. Last year, DC basically took Stokley's spot due to injury. Gonzalez is a great football player and will definitely cut into DC's action, imo.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Gotta add Tom Brady to the winners list...they now have a great WR corps with the addition of Ramdy Moss.

And don't forget Laurence Maroney. No RBs added and now the field is going to be stretched which will help him both as a runner and receiver.

 

[mulliganm]

Gotta add Tom Brady to the winners list...they now have a great WR corps with the addition of Ramdy Moss.

And don't forget Laurence Maroney. No RBs added and now the field is going to be stretched which will help him both as a runner and receiver.

Was about to post the exact same thing.

 

[5Rings]

Winner: Alex Smith, QB - Addition of Darrell Jackson, and also Joe Staley (Anyone who knows Kwame Harris will agree here)

If you wonder about Staley replacing Kwame Harris, check this video out



eta--video on longer on youtoube. go here instead

Anybody add Brees to the list of winners yet? Thats one loaded offense.

 

[Donnybrook]

Winer: DJ Hackett

Branch and to a less extent Burleson

 

[Donnybrook]

Stallworth stock is dropping.

He asked to change his number to 18. Was he trying to make a few extra bucks selling his jersey to Moss?

 

[thecardiackid]

I would add Brandon Jacobs to the list of winners. They could've easily brought in a Day 1 RB to complement him and steal touches at the very least. They could still do that with an Antonio Pittman, perhaps, but it appears Jacobs is now the unquestioned full-time back.

I would've been very worried if they took a RB in day 1. But worst case, it now looks like Jacobs will get the opportunity to prove whether or not he's capable of carrying (at least the majority) of the load. I'm not discounting Droughns' potential role, but even 60/40 w/ the continiued goal line work will make him a decent #2 rb.Now, if they bring in a camp castoff(s) / cap casualtie w/ proven league experience (like S Davis in STL last year), things could get more interesting.

 

[FairWarning]

How about Vince Young as a loser? They had a great chance to pair him up with a legitimate WR and they failed miserably. Better hope Jones is for real and Givens is healthy.

Probably the deepest part of the draft and didn't come up with one. Agree.

 

[EBF]

Winner: Alex Smith, QB - Addition of Darrell Jackson, and also Joe Staley (Anyone who knows Kwame Harris will agree here)

It kind of shocks me to say it, but the 49ers might be the best team in the division next year. They've added a lot of punch on offense with Darrell Jackson, Ashley Lelie, and Jason Hill.And on that note, Arnaz Battle's value is back where it should be (the toilet).

 

[DynOmite]

I think SJax is a loser here, not a winner. First, you can bet that Leonard will steal a ton of receptions from SJax. Second, I had SJax last year and saw him get stuffed a ton on goal line carries (especially early in the year). Leonard will see his share of goal line carries this year.

 

[EBF]

I think SJax is a loser here, not a winner. First, you can bet that Leonard will steal a ton of receptions from SJax. Second, I had SJax last year and saw him get stuffed a ton on goal line carries (especially early in the year). Leonard will see his share of goal line carries this year.

Yea, I agree with that. The addition of a pass-catching fullback with above average running skills isn't a good thing for Jackson's production.

 

[RC94]

I disagree that White is a winner. Henry may not be well liked around here, but TEN obviously likes him and will give him every opportunity to start. If they didn't like him so much and they thought highly of White, they wouldn't have taken Henry so high. There were plenty of other RBs available later on who could have simply provided depth if that is what they were looking for.

Also, Bush fell far for a reason. He is still rehabbing and I doubt he competes much this year. In the long run Jordan is probably going to leave OAK, which will be good for him, and I can see Bush taking over, which will be good for him as well. Bush is an interesting long term investment in dynasty leagues, but I don't think he really devalues Jordan that much at this time.

 

[EBF]

I disagree that White is a winner. Henry may not be well liked around here, but TEN obviously likes him and will give him every opportunity to start. If they didn't like him so much and they thought highly of White, they wouldn't have taken Henry so high. There were plenty of other RBs available later on who could have simply provided depth if that is what they were looking for.

Thing is, all the writing on the wall said Tennessee was going to bring in competition for White. But instead of competing with a guy like Michael Turner, Kenny Irons, or Brandon Jackson, he'll be competing with a guy who rushed for under 900 career yards at 3.2 YPC. That's the best White owners could possibly have hoped for.