Drafting a running back in the late second/early third (1 Viewer)

[AtomicDogg97]

For people drafting in the late second and early third round.....what running backs will be available at those spots that represent good value? I ask because I like to go RB-RB with my first two picks but I don't see any solid backs at those spots when I mock. I guess Jamal Lewis at that spot might be decent if he falls, but everyone else is a stretch.

Brandon Jacobs?

Earnest Graham?

Reggie Bush?

Ronnie Brown?

Darren McFadden?

Thomas Jones?

That spot in the draft seems kind of high for all of those guys.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

For people drafting in the late second and early third round.....what running backs will be available at those spots that represent good value? I ask because I like to go RB-RB with my first two picks but I don't see any solid backs at those spots when I mock. I guess Jamal Lewis at that spot might be decent if he falls, but everyone else is a stretch.Brandon Jacobs?Earnest Graham?Reggie Bush?Ronnie Brown?Darren McFadden?Thomas Jones?That spot in the draft seems kind of high for all of those guys.

Jamal would be good value there, but no way I take any of the others that high.

 

[Christo]

I have the 1.01 slot in a PPR league. The draft's next weekend. If Bush is there, he's mine.

 

[None_More_Black]

I have been thinking same thing myself as I have the fourth pick in my main league and thinking possbily Brady in the first.. It's a weird year for rbs. I'm thinking Jamal/Jones-drew/Perhaps Grant with the controversy in GB as good value if they slip to early third.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I have the 1.01 slot in a PPR league. The draft's next weekend. If Bush is there, he's mine.

I doubt he is there in a PPR.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

I have the #2 pick in the draft and therefore will be picking in the late second and early third. I really want two running backs in my first three picks, but I just don't see one that will be a good value at that spot. I think that is also too high for a guy like Maurice Jones Drew who splits time. Jamal lewis and Ryan Grant would be good picks but they will most likely be gone.

At the same time, if you go WR-WR at that point, you will most likely get shut out of a good second running back when you pick again at the end of round 4.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

I have the 1.01 slot in a PPR league. The draft's next weekend. If Bush is there, he's mine.

I doubt he is there in a PPR.

You think Reggie Bush is a solid pick in the late second/early third of a PPR league?

 

[PR Sparty]

I'm all over MJD is he's there for me at 20/21.

 

[RJS113]

If you have a top three pick, the best strategy is going RB-WR-WR, and then going RB in the 4th. If I had a top 3 pick, my draft would start off somthing like this:

1. LT/ADP/SJax

2. Colston

3. Chad Johnson

4. Thomas Jones

 

[footballman_696969]

I think Bush is a huge steal if hes available at the 2/3 turn in PPR leagues.

I think Grant would be good value in the late 2nd/early 3rd, and Jamal Lewis would be a decent pick. I wouldn't take any of the other RBs listed at this spot. I really like the RB-WR-WR strategy this year if you have a top 3 pick.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

For people drafting in the late second and early third round.....what running backs will be available at those spots that represent good value? I ask because I like to go RB-RB with my first two picks but I don't see any solid backs at those spots when I mock. I guess Jamal Lewis at that spot might be decent if he falls, but everyone else is a stretch.Brandon Jacobs?Earnest Graham?Reggie Bush?Ronnie Brown?Darren McFadden?Thomas Jones?That spot in the draft seems kind of high for all of those guys.

If you're drafting late 2nd or early 3rd, that most likely means you're drafting early 1st. Who are you drafting early first....it should be a RB. I suggest going RB 1st round and plan on going WR, WR.You'll end up with 2 solid Wr's there and in the 4th round you can go RB. It'll be someone like John Stewart, Rudi Johnson, E. Graham...something like that. So....I don't know your pick, let's say it's No. 2ADPBraylon EdwardsTJ HoushmanRudi or E. Graham

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I have the 1.01 slot in a PPR league. The draft's next weekend. If Bush is there, he's mine.

I doubt he is there in a PPR.

You think Reggie Bush is a solid pick in the late second/early third of a PPR league?

I think he will be long gone, but if not, he is a steal in a PPR league.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

If you have a top three pick, the best strategy is going RB-WR-WR, and then going RB in the 4th. If I had a top 3 pick, my draft would start off somthing like this:1. LT/ADP/SJax2. Colston3. Chad Johnson4. Thomas Jones

In the drafts I've been in, I haven't been seeing Colston last to the very end of the 2nd round in 12 teamers. He's been going mid 2nd right in there with Fitz.

 

[flooredyas]

I have the 1.01 slot in a PPR league. The draft's next weekend. If Bush is there, he's mine.

I doubt he is there in a PPR.

You think Reggie Bush is a solid pick in the late second/early third of a PPR league?

Solid? Argueable. However I as well must consider him at pick #23/26 to team with AP my keeper in one league.That league isn't a PPR one though. So I can only hope Jones-Drew slips to me. J. Lewis is another likely possibility, but I'm not a big fan of his. (Thou it's growing)So in answer to your ?, yes in a PPR.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

I can't see quality running backs like Thomas Jones and Earnest Graham falling to the end of the fourth round though. That is why I am leery with going RB-WR-WR with my first three picks. I don't think any quality backs will fall to the fourth, and I don't want to be stuck with Selvin Young as my RB2.

 

[packersfan]

I have the 1.01 slot in a PPR league. The draft's next weekend. If Bush is there, he's mine.

I doubt he is there in a PPR.

According to MockDraftCentral's ADP data, Bush currently has an ADP of 24 in PPR leagues. That means he's there at the end of the second round in most drafts so far. I'm picking 4th in my draft and if he's on the board when I'm picking in the second round it'll take a lot for me to pass on him. I really want to get a top WR but I believe I can take Bush in the second and then take Chad Johnson, Colston or Smith in the third. The only way I'll pass on Bush in the second is if the WRs are going fast and furious and I won't be able to get a top WR in the third round. Then I might feel compelled to pass on Bush, take a WR in the second and either take another WR in the third or perhaps go with Jones-Drew as my RB2. He currently has an ADP of 29 in PPR drafts.But the RB I really want is Bush. Even though he has yet to live up to his billing, he can catch 80-90 passes a season. That's huge value for a RB in a PPR league. If he just does that he'll be a fine second-round pick. If he actually lives up to his potential, you've got a major steal in the second round.

 

[kerpow]

I took MJD at 1.15 and Jamal at 2.2 in a 16 team PPR league. I was trying to trade down the 2nd pick but as nothing presented itself, I felt I had to take an RB with such a long wait until my 3rd round pick. There will always be WR's available, after all.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I can't see quality running backs like Thomas Jones and Earnest Graham falling to the end of the fourth round though. That is why I am leery with going RB-WR-WR with my first three picks. I don't think any quality backs will fall to the fourth, and I don't want to be stuck with Selvin Young as my RB2.

Atomic, just about every draft I'm in the Wr's are being gobbled up quickly and value in the 4th and 5th rounds are RB and Te. There will be a RB in the 4th round that you'd be happy with.I was just in a draft, I'm still in it it's a slow draft and it's for FBG versus some other fantasy sites etc (reason I tell you this is so you don't think it's a bunch of people who don't know what they're doing).... and Brandon Jacobs went at the end of the 4th round and Laurence Maroney went like 5.2. Graham went mid 4th. McFadden's in that spectrum too along with Rudi and J. Stewart. You have plenty to choose from.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I took MJD at 1.15 and Jamal at 2.2 in a 16 team PPR league. I was trying to trade down the 2nd pick but as nothing presented itself, I felt I had to take an RB with such a long wait until my 3rd round pick. There will always be WR's available, after all.

I think you will be VERY disappointed with your 3rd round pick. Let me tell you what I did from the 15th hole in your exact situation.I went Willis McGahee and Ryan Grant on the turn. Sure, two solid backs for picking 15 back but in round 3, best WR available was Roy Williams, then after me Brandon Marshall went then Carson Palmer. Nobody at WR was left except Bowe, everyone was gone that you could think of so I took Tony Gonzalez since that leagues offers 2 points per reception for Te's compared to 1 for Wr's.In round 5, best available for my Wr2 was Nate Burleson, only close after that is maybe Patrick Crayton. It's sick really.

 

[footballman_696969]

I can't see quality running backs like Thomas Jones and Earnest Graham falling to the end of the fourth round though. That is why I am leery with going RB-WR-WR with my first three picks. I don't think any quality backs will fall to the fourth, and I don't want to be stuck with Selvin Young as my RB2.

Atomic, just about every draft I'm in the Wr's are being gobbled up quickly and value in the 4th and 5th rounds are RB and Te. There will be a RB in the 4th round that you'd be happy with.

 

[Great White]

Value. I laugh at that word. It's a concept derived by chum who feel the need to have the latest concept or idea to fall back on because they lack the true instinct of a Great White. It means nothing. You either draft a championship team or you don't, and the building blocks of that championship are laid in every round. If you can't truly internalize how a draft will go, I suppose you need some sort of concept so you feel good about donating your money to true Great Whites every year, if you're lucky enough to play in a league with one of the few true Great Whites out there. What you call "value" Great Whites call taking your money, your woman, your pride, and everything you hold dear with their superior instincts, intellect, and understanding of life. Fantasy Football is simply an extension of real life, most people flail around looking for the latest hope to grasp onto while some, the rare few at the top of the food chain, simply understand and execute. I would wish you luck in reaching this peak of existence, but it's something that is simply inherent in people. Instead of filling your head full of pretty thoughts that will make you think you can one day compete with a Great White, I simply will encourage you to realize your place in the food chain. You will be much happier in life.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Value. I laugh at that word. It's a concept derived by chum who feel the need to have the latest concept or idea to fall back on because they lack the true instinct of a Great White. It means nothing. You either draft a championship team or you don't, and the building blocks of that championship are laid in every round. If you can't truly internalize how a draft will go, I suppose you need some sort of concept so you feel good about donating your money to true Great Whites every year, if you're lucky enough to play in a league with one of the few true Great Whites out there. What you call "value" Great Whites call taking your money, your woman, your pride, and everything you hold dear with their superior instincts, intellect, and understanding of life. Fantasy Football is simply an extension of real life, most people flail around looking for the latest hope to grasp onto while some, the rare few at the top of the food chain, simply understand and execute. I would wish you luck in reaching this peak of existence, but it's something that is simply inherent in people. Instead of filling your head full of pretty thoughts that will make you think you can one day compete with a Great White, I simply will encourage you to realize your place in the food chain. You will be much happier in life.

Well this is new.I give it about a 6.5/10 on the shtickometer.

 

[purestrength]

Value. I laugh at that word. It's a concept derived by chum who feel the need to have the latest concept or idea to fall back on because they lack the true instinct of a Great White. It means nothing. You either draft a championship team or you don't, and the building blocks of that championship are laid in every round. If you can't truly internalize how a draft will go, I suppose you need some sort of concept so you feel good about donating your money to true Great Whites every year, if you're lucky enough to play in a league with one of the few true Great Whites out there. What you call "value" Great Whites call taking your money, your woman, your pride, and everything you hold dear with their superior instincts, intellect, and understanding of life. Fantasy Football is simply an extension of real life, most people flail around looking for the latest hope to grasp onto while some, the rare few at the top of the food chain, simply understand and execute. I would wish you luck in reaching this peak of existence, but it's something that is simply inherent in people. Instead of filling your head full of pretty thoughts that will make you think you can one day compete with a Great White, I simply will encourage you to realize your place in the food chain. You will be much happier in life.

I must admit, I enjoyed this.

 

[Tau837]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.

I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

 

[Tau837]

Value. I laugh at that word. It's a concept derived by chum who feel the need to have the latest concept or idea to fall back on because they lack the true instinct of a Great White. It means nothing. You either draft a championship team or you don't, and the building blocks of that championship are laid in every round. If you can't truly internalize how a draft will go, I suppose you need some sort of concept so you feel good about donating your money to true Great Whites every year, if you're lucky enough to play in a league with one of the few true Great Whites out there. What you call "value" Great Whites call taking your money, your woman, your pride, and everything you hold dear with their superior instincts, intellect, and understanding of life. Fantasy Football is simply an extension of real life, most people flail around looking for the latest hope to grasp onto while some, the rare few at the top of the food chain, simply understand and execute. I would wish you luck in reaching this peak of existence, but it's something that is simply inherent in people. Instead of filling your head full of pretty thoughts that will make you think you can one day compete with a Great White, I simply will encourage you to realize your place in the food chain. You will be much happier in life.

I must admit, I enjoyed this.

Same here. If I used other people's posts in my signature, there is some worthy material here...

 

[Texican]

I just drafted from the 2 spot. I am not saying it turned out the best, but I got: LT2, Maroney, Fitz, Selvin Young.

 

[jcuadrado]

I just drafted from the 2 spot. I am not saying it turned out the best, but I got: LT2, Maroney, Fitz, Selvin Young.

what QBs were available when you took Selvin?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I just drafted from the 2 spot. I am not saying it turned out the best, but I got: LT2, Maroney, Fitz, Selvin Young.

LT good, Fitz good, Maroney not so good at that spot with the signing of jordan nad Young as your 3rd RB, a guy who'll be on your bench when you have no WR 2 or QB or TE not so good.

 

[Texican]

I just drafted from the 2 spot. I am not saying it turned out the best, but I got: LT2, Maroney, Fitz, Selvin Young.

what QBs were available when you took Selvin?

Brady, Manning, Romo, Brees, Palmer, Anderson, Big Ben were all gone.

 

[Texican]

I just drafted from the 2 spot. I am not saying it turned out the best, but I got: LT2, Maroney, Fitz, Selvin Young.

LT good, Fitz good, Maroney not so good at that spot with the signing of jordan nad Young as your 3rd RB, a guy who'll be on your bench when you have no WR 2 or QB or TE not so good.

I am a bit worried about ny RB2 and Rb3 as well.

 

[aburt19]

In the mocks that I've been in, the RB remaining in a 12 team league at the end of round 2 or early in round 3 all have question marks about them. The running

backs that available in round 4 (T. Jones, sometimes E. James, etc) aren't much different from the RB available in late round 2 or 3 and taking either a QB/WR

or WR/WR has been much better.

 

[joffer]

MJD, Jamal, Grant are all solid options there, Bush if PPR. other than that....go WR

 

[MCguidance]

Value. I laugh at that word. It's a concept derived by chum who feel the need to have the latest concept or idea to fall back on because they lack the true instinct of a Great White. It means nothing. You either draft a championship team or you don't, and the building blocks of that championship are laid in every round. If you can't truly internalize how a draft will go, I suppose you need some sort of concept so you feel good about donating your money to true Great Whites every year, if you're lucky enough to play in a league with one of the few true Great Whites out there. What you call "value" Great Whites call taking your money, your woman, your pride, and everything you hold dear with their superior instincts, intellect, and understanding of life. Fantasy Football is simply an extension of real life, most people flail around looking for the latest hope to grasp onto while some, the rare few at the top of the food chain, simply understand and execute. I would wish you luck in reaching this peak of existence, but it's something that is simply inherent in people. Instead of filling your head full of pretty thoughts that will make you think you can one day compete with a Great White, I simply will encourage you to realize your place in the food chain. You will be much happier in life.

Meh. Bolded is good, then it just deteriorates...quickly.

 

[Tau837]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.Last year, I followed a similar strategy with the third pick, and I won the title. That said, I got Romo in the 5th, which probably made my season.Thoughts?

 

[Alias]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.Last year, I followed a similar strategy with the third pick, and I won the title. That said, I got Romo in the 5th, which probably made my season.Thoughts?

I am in a 16 team league and I will help you out a little, using your strat above in last year's draft would net you:1.2 Steven Jackson2.15 Steve Smith3.2 Chad Johnson4.15 Shockey-TE2 (or Cutler-QB11) - RB34 was available5.2 Gonzalez-TE3 (or Cutler)6.15 Chris Brown-RB417.2 Leon Washington-RB428.15 Pennington-QB19For a non-PPR I think you are crazy waiting until the 6th round for your RB2, I can't say having a shot at WR1+WR2 in 2 and 3 is a bad idea though. Consider RB in the late 4th and you could get a guy like...Julius Jones (04.06)Kevin Smith (05.03)Jerious Norwood (08.03)which are a good 30 points better then your options 2 rounds later...Ahman Green (06.16)Deuce McAllister (06.13)Leonard Weaver (---)

 

[bcr8f]

Recent 16 team IDP

2.15 31. Turner, Michael ATL RB Fri Jul 18 12:40:20 p.m. CT 2008

3.14 46. Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Fri Jul 18 11:11:17 p.m. CT 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.01 49. McFadden, Darren OAK RB Sat Jul 19 6:40:57 a.m. CT 2008

4.05 53. Jones, Thomas NYJ RB Sat Jul 19 11:56:15 a.m. CT 2008

4.07 55. James, Edgerrin ARI RB Sat Jul 19 1:18:51 p.m. CT 2008

4.08 56. Graham, Earnest TBB RB Sat Jul 19 2:48:24 p.m. CT 2008

4.09 57. Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB Sat Jul 19 5:37:58 p.m. CT 2008

4.12 60. White, LenDale TEN RB Sat Jul 19 5:37:58 p.m. CT 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.14 62. Maroney, Laurence NEP RB Sat Jul 19 8:45:11 p.m. CT 2008

 

[renesauz]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.Last year, I followed a similar strategy with the third pick, and I won the title. That said, I got Romo in the 5th, which probably made my season.Thoughts?

Yeah...you're over-thinking, and over-planning. Let the draft come to you instead of chasing it with a plan this detailed.

 

[bcr8f]

Yeah...you're over-thinking, and over-planning. Let the draft come to you instead of chasing it with a plan this detailed.

I agree. Plans are fine but don't get married to them. I always go for value and adjust if it's there. It sounds like he is itching for his draft. ADP has33 Jamal34 Maroney37 Ronnie Brown38 Jacobs39 FWP43 Turner

 

[Tau837]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.Last year, I followed a similar strategy with the third pick, and I won the title. That said, I got Romo in the 5th, which probably made my season.Thoughts?

Yeah...you're over-thinking, and over-planning. Let the draft come to you instead of chasing it with a plan this detailed.

I just like to walk through it to explore possibilities. I won't stick to a rigid plan on draft day.

 

[Tau837]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.Last year, I followed a similar strategy with the third pick, and I won the title. That said, I got Romo in the 5th, which probably made my season.Thoughts?

I am in a 16 team league and I will help you out a little, using your strat above in last year's draft would net you:1.2 Steven Jackson2.15 Steve Smith3.2 Chad Johnson4.15 Shockey-TE2 (or Cutler-QB11) - RB34 was available5.2 Gonzalez-TE3 (or Cutler)6.15 Chris Brown-RB417.2 Leon Washington-RB428.15 Pennington-QB19For a non-PPR I think you are crazy waiting until the 6th round for your RB2, I can't say having a shot at WR1+WR2 in 2 and 3 is a bad idea though. Consider RB in the late 4th and you could get a guy like...Julius Jones (04.06)Kevin Smith (05.03)Jerious Norwood (08.03)which are a good 30 points better then your options 2 rounds later...Ahman Green (06.16)Deuce McAllister (06.13)Leonard Weaver (---)

Last year I had the 1.3 pick and went RB-WR-WR-RB-QB. I took Foster in the 4th as the 32nd RB off the board, but only 1 more RB went by my 6th round pick. That was my point in considering waiting. Unless there is a big dropoff between the RB available at 4.15 and the next few RBs. I realize this year's draft may not follow last year's pattern, but this is why I walked through it, to see how I might have improved on my draft last year and think about whether or not to apply those things to this year.The question becomes how many teams will go for their third RBs by the 6th round. In this league, historically teams tend to focus on their starters longer than perhaps in some other leagues, which is why only 33 RBs were gone by 6.15.Anyway, I'm just exploring options at this point.

 

[Tau837]

Yeah...you're over-thinking, and over-planning. Let the draft come to you instead of chasing it with a plan this detailed.

I agree. Plans are fine but don't get married to them. I always go for value and adjust if it's there. It sounds like he is itching for his draft. ADP has33 Jamal34 Maroney37 Ronnie Brown38 Jacobs39 FWP43 Turner

The thing is, I'm skeptical that normal ADP is very useful to me, at least not the FBG consensus ADP, because it is not possible to limit it to 16 team drafts that have similar scoring and starting requirements. (And I'm not sure how big a sample size there would be on that anyway.)You have shown the RB group above presumably because you are suggesting they will be available at my second and third round picks. To pick an example, FBG's consensus ADP shows Turner as the #20 RB right now, and his consensus ADP is #40 overall. Last year, by the 2.15 pick, the 31st overall pick in the draft, 22 RBs had been taken.Again, who knows for sure if it will go like last year...? But when 32 RBs have to start every week, they tend to go fast... up to a certain point. Then people switch focus.Yes, I'm itching for my draft.

 

[renesauz]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.Last year, I followed a similar strategy with the third pick, and I won the title. That said, I got Romo in the 5th, which probably made my season.Thoughts?

Yeah...you're over-thinking, and over-planning. Let the draft come to you instead of chasing it with a plan this detailed.

I just like to walk through it to explore possibilities. I won't stick to a rigid plan on draft day.

What I've found to be the best way to be ready is to get draft dominator downloaded, and then tweak the projections to match my own thoughts.Next, go to a free site, like fleaflicker, and do 5-10 actual drafts. While these are cheesy leagues, it's a great way to prepare for the $$$ leagues because the level of experiance is all over the map. It prepares you for the unexpected.Even in FBG survivor leagues, where I've drafted with these guys a dozen times before, and we all are members of the same site, looking at the same info...there's ALWAYS a surprise pick or two. There's ALWAYS a player available where I don't expect him to be.These free leagues better prepare you for the unexpected, because they have more idiots in them. After the draft, DD can analyze and show you how you did.While I wouldn't advocate using these leagues as "just a mock" as it's unfair to those who take them more seriously, I don't exactly put a ton of time/effort into them beyond a weekly lineup and quick perusal of available FA's (They usually have a top FA list...making it quick and easy).I guess what I'm getting at is that the best planning you can really do for any draft is to actually do a few drafts...real ones, not mocks where half or more of the slots are some computer.

 

[Tau837]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.Last year, I followed a similar strategy with the third pick, and I won the title. That said, I got Romo in the 5th, which probably made my season.Thoughts?

Yeah...you're over-thinking, and over-planning. Let the draft come to you instead of chasing it with a plan this detailed.

I just like to walk through it to explore possibilities. I won't stick to a rigid plan on draft day.

What I've found to be the best way to be ready is to get draft dominator downloaded, and then tweak the projections to match my own thoughts.Next, go to a free site, like fleaflicker, and do 5-10 actual drafts. While these are cheesy leagues, it's a great way to prepare for the $$$ leagues because the level of experiance is all over the map. It prepares you for the unexpected.Even in FBG survivor leagues, where I've drafted with these guys a dozen times before, and we all are members of the same site, looking at the same info...there's ALWAYS a surprise pick or two. There's ALWAYS a player available where I don't expect him to be.These free leagues better prepare you for the unexpected, because they have more idiots in them. After the draft, DD can analyze and show you how you did.While I wouldn't advocate using these leagues as "just a mock" as it's unfair to those who take them more seriously, I don't exactly put a ton of time/effort into them beyond a weekly lineup and quick perusal of available FA's (They usually have a top FA list...making it quick and easy).I guess what I'm getting at is that the best planning you can really do for any draft is to actually do a few drafts...real ones, not mocks where half or more of the slots are some computer.

Agree on DD. Haven't tried the multiple real drafts approach before; as you say, I'm reluctant to screw some other owners and also suspect I'd have a hard time ignoring my teams in those other leagues... but I really don't want to commit to too many teams. I'll have to think about that one.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I can't see quality running backs like Thomas Jones and Earnest Graham falling to the end of the fourth round though. That is why I am leery with going RB-WR-WR with my first three picks. I don't think any quality backs will fall to the fourth, and I don't want to be stuck with Selvin Young as my RB2.

That's what I was thinking. I'm a big proponent of VBD, but going in with a general plan is useful.If you take WR/WR - probably Fitz/Colston/Housh/Chad at #23 and #26 - you'll end up holding your nose at #47 and #50. T.J. is an unlikely best case scenario; more likely the choices will be Graham/Stewart/Rudi/Edge. Better IMO to take MJD or J-Lew.Kind of boils down to would you rather have Graham/Stewart at RB2 or Megatron/Jennings as your WR2? I'd opt for the latter, RB-WR-RB-WR. But who knows; every real draft has suprises, ADP has less value once the mocks are over. A general game plan is a good thing, but only if you're willing to be flexible, adjust and take the best value pick.

 

[Christo]

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.

In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.Last year, I followed a similar strategy with the third pick, and I won the title. That said, I got Romo in the 5th, which probably made my season.Thoughts?

Yeah...you're over-thinking, and over-planning. Let the draft come to you instead of chasing it with a plan this detailed.

With all of the different sources for information, you and your leaguemates are going to have different ideas regarding players' values. So players you value will fall to you.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I'm in one mock draft right now where I had the 2nd pick in a 12 team league. I really don't see much difference with the 2 rb's I grabbed at the 4/5 turn than those who were available at 2/3. Here's what I did:

1. ADP

2. Romo

3. Colston

4. McFadden

5. Edge

With my next 2 picks, I plan on going:

6. Chestor Taylor or Jon Stewart

7. Driver, Coles, or Ward.

 

[OddibeMcD]

In one of the FBG drafts from the 1.4 slot (a little different because of the 5 week period), I went 1.04 Westy 2.09 McGahee 3.04 ChoJo 4.09 B. Jacobs.

I can live with this.

 

[Christo]

I'm in one mock draft right now where I had the 2nd pick in a 12 team league. I really don't see much difference with the 2 rb's I grabbed at the 4/5 turn than those who were available at 2/3. Here's what I did:

1. ADP

2. Romo

3. Colston

4. McFadden

5. Edge

With my next 2 picks, I plan on going:

6. Chestor Taylor or Jon Stewart

7. Driver, Coles, or Ward.

Who was available?

 

[Christo]

In one of the FBG drafts from the 1.4 slot (a little different because of the 5 week period), I went 1.04 Westy 2.09 McGahee 3.04 ChoJo 4.09 B. Jacobs. I can live with this.

ChoJo?

 

[OddibeMcD]

In one of the FBG drafts from the 1.4 slot (a little different because of the 5 week period), I went 1.04 Westy 2.09 McGahee 3.04 ChoJo 4.09 B. Jacobs. I can live with this.

ChoJo?

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