Drafting from the 9 spot in PPR (half or full) (1 Viewer)

[The Dude]

Got the nine in a half ppr

12 teamer, standard scoring

what are owners drafting at this spot?  What are you getting after the turn?

How many non-rbs go between picks?

And feel free to discuss full and half point ppr leagues - just note which you are in?

hopefully some good discussion.

 

[jimmy b]

ACF...?

 

[The Dude]

We have done these in the pool in the past.  It’s general strategy - not who do I draft

 

[cloppbeast]

Hopefully Tyreek Hill falls to you. Jacobs in the 2nd.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

I'll be drafting 8th in PPR. ADP seems like I'll be looking at Henry, Edwards-Helaire and/or Adams. It also gives me a shot at Julio Jones in Rd 2, but I don't see that happening and expect to go RB (I changed ADP criteria to compare, but only had 14 drafts, so I Wouldn't consider reluable.

And, yes, these used to be a staple here. I did a master thread one year with links to the different slot discussions.

 

[MAC_32]

If flex then Chubb + either A Jones or Sanders is ideal. If no flex then would consider wr round 2, no lower than Julio or Nuk though. 

If you know your competition's tendencies that needs considered too. I want rb-rb but if the others typically let rb's fall then I won't force the issue. 

 

[rockaction]

If flex then Chubb + either A Jones or Sanders is ideal. If no flex then would consider wr round 2, no lower than Julio or Nuk though. 

If you know your competition's tendencies that needs considered too. I want rb-rb but if the others typically let rb's fall then I won't force the issue. 

I'd want RB/RB this year, too. I'd want it most years, though, so that's me. 

 

[The Dude]

Any thoughts from the weekend drafts?

hoping for Edwards or Mixon in 1sr

Jacobs in second (that might be tough)

 

[rick6668]

Drafted from the 9 last night in a full ppr, no flex.

1.09 Cook

2.04 Jacobs

3.09 Robinson

4.04 Cooper

5.09 Andrews

I was very pleased with the value that dropped to me.  Was not expecting Cook to fall to 9. 

Got Mattison in the 12th, which I thought was late, was a little worried I would miss out. 

Good luck

 

[DocHolliday]

Drafted from the 9 last night in a full ppr, no flex.

1.09 Cook

2.04 Jacobs

3.09 Robinson

4.04 Cooper

5.09 Andrews

I was very pleased with the value that dropped to me.  Was not expecting Cook to fall to 9. 

Got Mattison in the 12th, which I thought was late, was a little worried I would miss out. 

Good luck

Cook was a steal.  

 

[The Dude]

Drafted from the 9 last night in a full ppr, no flex.

1.09 Cook

2.04 Jacobs

3.09 Robinson

4.04 Cooper

5.09 Andrews

I was very pleased with the value that dropped to me.  Was not expecting Cook to fall to 9. 

Got Mattison in the 12th, which I thought was late, was a little worried I would miss out. 

Good luck

That looks pretty good.  Did Edwards go before Cook?  I am guessing that is part of why he fell.

 

[DocHolliday]

I'd want RB/RB this year, too. I'd want it most years, though, so that's me. 

I draft like you with a focus on RB early.  Hopefully, a few in my league grab a couple of WRs and even a QB in round 1.   

 

[DirtyCashDylan]

Drafted from the 9 last night in a full ppr, no flex.

1.09 Cook

2.04 Jacobs

3.09 Robinson

4.04 Cooper

5.09 Andrews

I was very pleased with the value that dropped to me.  Was not expecting Cook to fall to 9. 

Got Mattison in the 12th, which I thought was late, was a little worried I would miss out. 

Good luck

12 team league? If i get Cook round 1 in mocks, I'm having to scoop Mattison by round 9 or he gone.

 

[rockaction]

I draft like you with a focus on RB early.  Hopefully, a few in my league grab a couple of WRs and even a QB in round 1.   

And I just went five picks in a draft without an RB. In a Superflex went QB,WR,QB,WR,WR

My last two picks have been RBs, though. 

 

[rick6668]

That looks pretty good.  Did Edwards go before Cook?  I am guessing that is part of why he fell.

Yes, he went at 7.

 

[rick6668]

12 team league? If i get Cook round 1 in mocks, I'm having to scoop Mattison by round 9 or he gone.

Yes it was 12 team.  Had some value WR's before 12 and scooped them up D. Johnson, P. Williams, and forgot about him.  Was lucky he lasted.  Had 3 owners tell me he was their next pick after I selected him.

 

[Judge Smails]

Drafted from the 9 last night in a full ppr, no flex.

1.09 Cook

2.04 Jacobs

3.09 Robinson

4.04 Cooper

5.09 Andrews

I was very pleased with the value that dropped to me.  Was not expecting Cook to fall to 9. 

Got Mattison in the 12th, which I thought was late, was a little worried I would miss out. 

Good luck

Very solid. I’m guessing Mahomes and Jackson had to go in addition to Thomas, Adams and maybe Hill? If I go RB/RB I’m likely looking at a Jacobs type then a Sanders. Cook/Jacobs is a league winning start IMO

 

[dkp993]

Did a $250 FFPC a couple nights ago from the 9 hole.

1. Adams

2. Ekeler 

3. Evans

4. Locket

Hated my draft for the record.  Every year I also hate snake drafts more and more.  So at the will of others and luck.  I’m down to only 3 snake drafts this year.   

 

[rick6668]

Very solid. I’m guessing Mahomes and Jackson had to go in addition to Thomas, Adams and maybe Hill? If I go RB/RB I’m likely looking at a Jacobs type then a Sanders. Cook/Jacobs is a league winning start IMO

First 8 were McCaffrey, Barkley, Elliot, Kamara, Thomas, Henry, Edwards-Helaire, Jackson.

I figured I was looking at Adams/Hill, but was really pleased.  Last year I had the same pick at 9 and went WR/WR and finished second so I knew it was an decent option.

 

[Deamon]

Hopefully Tyreek Hill falls to you. Jacobs in the 2nd.

I'll be drafting 8th in PPR. ADP seems like I'll be looking at Henry, Edwards-Helaire and/or Adams. It also gives me a shot at Julio Jones in Rd 2, but I don't see that happening and expect to go RB (I changed ADP criteria to compare, but only had 14 drafts, so I Wouldn't consider reluable.

And, yes, these used to be a staple here. I did a master thread one year with links to the different slot discussions.

I learned the hard way that RB dries up insanely fast this year and will never take a WR in round 1 again this year unless it's thomas in all formats.  If Thomas is there at 8 or 9 I think you take him.  But I pass on Adams.... you'll be scrambling at RB and hating your team.  WR is STACKED in rounds 4-8.  RB RB RB WR WR WR is actually a solid strategy in full PPR this year.  If you don't have 2 RBS after round 3 you're toast.

 

[cloppbeast]

I learned the hard way that RB dries up insanely fast this year and will never take a WR in round 1 again this year unless it's thomas in all formats.  If Thomas is there at 8 or 9 I think you take him.  But I pass on Adams.... you'll be scrambling at RB and hating your team.  WR is STACKED in rounds 4-8.  RB RB RB WR WR WR is actually a solid strategy in full PPR this year.  If you don't have 2 RBS after round 3 you're toast.

My strategy is always to get the best players. I would prefer to get a great RB in the first. That's the ideal but I'm not taking a pretty good running back over an elite wr - and vbd supports this. I've managed to get some decent running backs later on - Gurley, David Johnson, Swift, Kerryon, Ronald Jones, ect. ect. Eventually the guys gobbling them up like tic tacs will start taking other positions. This strategy depends on how you feel about a guy like Marlon Mack, but I'm sure you can find some running back sleeper you like in the later rounds. I personally can deal with such caliber as my RB2-3 if I have Calvin Ridley or AJ Brown as my WR3 and maybe Kittle as my TE.

 

[Deamon]

My strategy is always to get the best players. I would prefer to get a great RB in the first. That's the ideal but I'm not taking a pretty good running back over an elite wr - and vbd supports this. I've managed to get some decent running backs later on - Gurley, David Johnson, Swift, Kerryon, Ronald Jones, ect. ect. Eventually the guys gobbling them up like tic tacs will start taking other positions. This strategy depends on how you feel about a guy like Marlon Mack, but I'm sure you can find some running back sleeper you like in the later rounds. I personally can deal with such caliber as my RB2-3 if I have Calvin Ridley or AJ Brown as my WR3 and maybe Kittle as my TE.

I thought the same at first. But never again. I don't love any of the guys you listed.  How in the world are you getting ridley/brown as your wr3 and kittle as your te?  That's not possible, map that out for me. 

 

[cloppbeast]

How in the world are you getting ridley/brown as your wr3 and kittle as your te?  That's not possible, map that out for me. 

Yeah, it needs some re-mapping. lol

 

[Mystery Achiever]

I learned the hard way that RB dries up insanely fast this year and will never take a WR in round 1 again this year unless it's thomas in all formats.  If Thomas is there at 8 or 9 I think you take him.  But I pass on Adams.... you'll be scrambling at RB and hating your team.  WR is STACKED in rounds 4-8.  RB RB RB WR WR WR is actually a solid strategy in full PPR this year.  If you don't have 2 RBS after round 3 you're toast.

Yes,the RB run was pretty brutal. Was playing catch up for RBs the whole time. But I did get Thomas at 1.08. Went WR-RB-RB-WR-RB-WR. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Hopefully Tyreek Hill falls to you. Jacobs in the 2nd.

I was thinking similar but opposite. Take Jacobs & see which of the near-elite WRs fall to him. 

Either way should be very solid, and the 3.09 RB/WR crop isn’t bad either. 

That said, taking Jacobs 1.09 frees him up if another elite RB makes the turn or (gasp!) Kelce. 

I wouldn’t reach for Kittle 2.04 unless absolutely committed to elite TE strategy. 

Regardless, I love Jacobs at that ADP. Workhorse, will dominate touches for what should be an improved Raiders offense. 

Obviously, targets should be disregarded for value. If a CEH or Henry slides to 9 for some reason, grab the higher ranked value pick over Jacobs. If the Kamara situation remains cloudy he could conceivably slide that far as well, and I think you’d have to take him on faith.  Zeke slid 5-6 picks when he held out, and that worked out great for Zeke owners. 

So yeah, I would Target Jacobs/WR or Jacobs/Kelce or Jacobs/RB1b unless* something weird happens. 

*something weird often happens. 

 

 

[cloppbeast]

Yes,the RB run was pretty brutal. Was playing catch up for RBs the whole time. But I did get Thomas at 1.08. Went WR-RB-RB-WR-RB-WR.

I've always felt like grabbing RBs because everybody else is doing it is a guppy move. Better to be ahead of the curve than behind it. Overvaluing any position is to your detriment, and when your league-mates do it too it's to their detriment.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I've always felt like grabbing RBs because everybody else is doing it is a guppy move. Better to be ahead of the curve than behind it. Overvaluing any position is to your detriment, and when your league-mates do it too it's to their detriment.

Yeah,  but at 1.09 you’re already taking a mid-run WR. Thomas & Adams are higher volume receivers & the only two I consider worthy of 1st round selection unless one is picking 12th. And I love TyReek this year.  If you’re absolutely anymore with TyHill, I won’t fault you for making him a 1st round pick, but I don’t see him as a lock there. I see less chance that TyReek keeps up with Adams & Thomas in PPR than say, for Jacobs or CEH to outscore a few RBs taken ahead of them. 

at the same time I see several WRs in TyHill’s tier who could at least keep pace with TyHill.

so that makes it easy for me. The 1st round & a half is very deep this year - I don’t think taking the 6-7-8th RB off the board constitutes a guppy move if it’s the right RB. 

 

[cloppbeast]

Yeah,  but at 1.09 you’re already taking a mid-run WR. Thomas & Adams are higher volume receivers & the only two I consider worthy of 1st round selection unless one is picking 12th. And I love TyReek this year.  If you’re absolutely anymore with TyHill, I won’t fault you for making him a 1st round pick, but I don’t see him as a lock there. I see less chance that TyReek keeps up with Adams & Thomas in PPR than say, for Jacobs or CEH to outscore a few RBs taken ahead of them. 

at the same time I see several WRs in TyHill’s tier who could at least keep pace with TyHill.

so that makes it easy for me. The 1st round & a half is very deep this year - I don’t think taking the 6-7-8th RB off the board constitutes a guppy move if it’s the right RB. 

While I disagree, I respect if you don't like Tyreek as an elite player and that's your reasoning to avoid him. The guppy part is skipping an elite player because your leaguemates could take all the RBs - just my humble opinion.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

While I disagree, I respect if you don't like Tyreek as an elite player and that's your reasoning to avoid him.

I do like Tyreek as an elite player and I’m not avoiding him. 

The guppy part is skipping an elite player because your leaguemates could take all the RBs - just my humble opinion.

That’s not my reasoning at all. My reasoning is that there may be 1-2 RBs with top 3 potential at 9, and there could be a few WRs with the potential to score like Tyreek at 2.04.

I don’t think Tyreek is in the same tier as Thomas or Adams. That doesn’t make him not elite, it just might change my plan at 1.09

if I were picking 1.09 I would plan to take BPA. So it all depends on who goes 1-8. Maybe I would take Tyreek if CEH, Henry & Jacobs are off the board. 

hopefully that’s more clear. 

 

[rick6668]

I do like Tyreek as an elite player and I’m not avoiding him. 

That’s not my reasoning at all. My reasoning is that there may be 1-2 RBs with top 3 potential at 9, and there could be a few WRs with the potential to score like Tyreek at 2.04.

I don’t think Tyreek is in the same tier as Thomas or Adams. That doesn’t make him not elite, it just might change my plan at 1.09

if I were picking 1.09 I would plan to take BPA. So it all depends on who goes 1-8. Maybe I would take Tyreek if CEH, Henry & Jacobs are off the board. 

hopefully that’s more clear. 

That makes sense to me.  But, *something weird often happens. 

 

[rick6668]

I do like Tyreek as an elite player and I’m not avoiding him. 

That’s not my reasoning at all. My reasoning is that there may be 1-2 RBs with top 3 potential at 9, and there could be a few WRs with the potential to score like Tyreek at 2.04.

I don’t think Tyreek is in the same tier as Thomas or Adams. That doesn’t make him not elite, it just might change my plan at 1.09

if I were picking 1.09 I would plan to take BPA. So it all depends on who goes 1-8. Maybe I would take Tyreek if CEH, Henry & Jacobs are off the board. 

hopefully that’s more clear. 

So the top 4 are likely MC, Barkley, Elliot and Kamara.  So if you are picking #9, there are 4 more picks.  Cook/Thomas is going around 5/6 so  if CEH, Henry & Jacobs cannot be all off the board as well as Adams.  At #9 you are getting your choice of the remaining 2 of these 10 guys - MC, Barkley, Elliot, Kamara, Cook, Thomas, CEH, Henry, Jacobs, Adams.  

Tyreek should bot be an option at #9 unless you have him above those 10.

 

[iamkoza]

likely going to have 9th in 0.5ppr. would LOVE to get dalvin cook like the other guy did. but i think i'm going to be choosing from d adams, tyreek, mixon, jacobs, CEH.... and then hope for ekeler in the 2nd. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So the top 4 are likely MC, Barkley, Elliot and Kamara.  So if you are picking #9, there are 4 more picks.  Cook/Thomas is going around 5/6 so  if CEH, Henry & Jacobs cannot be all off the board as well as Adams.  At #9 you are getting your choice of the remaining 2 of these 10 guys - MC, Barkley, Elliot, Kamara, Cook, Thomas, CEH, Henry, Jacobs, Adams.  

Tyreek should bot be an option at #9 unless you have him above those 10.

Cook might leapfrog Kamara with the holdout, but yeah - I'd say your overall list is likely to be the top 8, and I agree those others are ahead. 

But hey, I won't tell anyone how to draft. I have Mahomie in dynasty so obviously I hope Tyreek is as good as he can possibly be. If someone  thinks the true breakout for Hill is coming, he's not a bad pick. But if I'm choosing between Henry & Hill or Jacobs & Hill, I'm probably gonna take the RB myself. 

There really aren't too many bad picks in the top 12 this year.  Of course that changes with a reach.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

likely going to have 9th in 0.5ppr. would LOVE to get dalvin cook like the other guy did. but i think i'm going to be choosing from d adams, tyreek, mixon, jacobs, CEH.... and then hope for ekeler in the 2nd. 

Sounds like a pretty solid plan. 

 

[iamkoza]

likely going to have 9th in 0.5ppr. would LOVE to get dalvin cook like the other guy did. but i think i'm going to be choosing from d adams, tyreek, mixon, jacobs, CEH.... and then hope for ekeler in the 2nd. 

well it's been a week and ive narrowed it down to CEH, jacobs, or mixon for my 9th pick. i really hate drafting at the end of the draft this year (well actually every year). by the time the 3rd comes back at me im looking at guys like connor (maybe) , carson, theilen, OBJ etc. 

 

[The Dude]

I am leaning Jacobs and would take over Ceh and Mixon

 

[Mongidig]

I went with Mixon. I didn't like the RB choices in round two so I decided to go RB then WR. I picked Tyreek in the second. I hate the 9 spot because after the top 8 I feel like this is a tier down. I am scared about the Bengal offensive line but they get Jonah Williams back. I love Mixon's talent and I'm hoping Burrow takes this offense to a new level. Burrow through a ton to CEH and Mixon is a great receiver. We'll see. This wasn't my favorite draft but I don't hate it.

1) Mixon

2) Tyreek

3) Conner.....Kittle went one before me. I would have taken Golladay or Jonathan Taylor  but they were gone. 

4) AJ Brown

5) Andrews

6) Diggs

7) Moss

 This is in the NFFC were we have 3rd round reversal. Instead of the first pick going back to back in the third it goes back to the 12 pick. 

 

[Buckna]

I went with Mixon. I didn't like the RB choices in round two so I decided to go RB then WR. I picked Tyreek in the second. I hate the 9 spot because after the top 8 I feel like this is a tier down. I am scared about the Bengal offensive line but they get Jonah Williams back. I love Mixon's talent and I'm hoping Burrow takes this offense to a new level. Burrow through a ton to CEH and Mixon is a great receiver. We'll see. This wasn't my favorite draft but I don't hate it.

1) Mixon

2) Tyreek

3) Conner.....Kittle went one before me. I would have taken Golladay or Jonathan Taylor  but they were gone. 

4) AJ Brown

5) Andrews

6) Diggs

7) Moss

 This is in the NFFC were we have 3rd round reversal. Instead of the first pick going back to back in the third it goes back to the 12 pick. 

Drafting at the 8 slot tomorrow, I would be ecstatic if my first 5 picks looked like that.

 

[-jb-]

One thing to note that’s important about the later draft spots - Josh Jacobs seems to be ranked way higher by those who “study.”  I keep seeing him slip. I’ve drafted two redrafts so far (2 more to go), and got him at 2.04 in a 12 team and 2.10 in a ten team. If you have one of these back half slots, you can potentially gamble and he might make it back to you. Obviously depends on who you’re drafting with. 

 

[jimmycperu]

Just drafted from the 9. 12 team 0.75ppr QB/2RB/3WR/2TE/K/D

Murray (6)

Jacobs (1), Gibson (8), Lindsay (11), Ronald Jones (13), Michel (14), James Robinson (16)

Thielen (3), Juju (4), Metcalf (5), Preston Williams (9), Shepard (10), Sims (15)

Kelce (2), Henry (6)

Bills (12)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I went with Mixon. I didn't like the RB choices in round two so I decided to go RB then WR. I picked Tyreek in the second. I hate the 9 spot because after the top 8 I feel like this is a tier down. I am scared about the Bengal offensive line but they get Jonah Williams back. I love Mixon's talent and I'm hoping Burrow takes this offense to a new level. Burrow through a ton to CEH and Mixon is a great receiver. We'll see. This wasn't my favorite draft but I don't hate it.

1) Mixon

2) Tyreek

3) Conner.....Kittle went one before me. I would have taken Golladay or Jonathan Taylor  but they were gone. 

4) AJ Brown

5) Andrews

6) Diggs

7) Moss

 This is in the NFFC were we have 3rd round reversal. Instead of the first pick going back to back in the third it goes back to the 12 pick. 

Solid draft - I had a feeling Tyreek might make the turn. Speed players with hammy issues in preseason (sort of) sometimes slide a little further than expected. He went 2.06 in my draft on Friday.

Glad ya got a team you like.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just drafted from the 9. 12 team 0.75ppr QB/2RB/3WR/2TE/K/D

Murray (6)

Jacobs (1), Gibson (8), Lindsay (11), Ronald Jones (13), Michel (14), James Robinson (16)

Thielen (3), Juju (4), Metcalf (5), Preston Williams (9), Shepard (10), Sims (15)

Kelce (2), Henry (6)

Bills (12)

I really, really like this team. 

 

[Deamon]

The answer to this question is Jacobs and nothing else.

 

[Judge Smails]

Where is Aaron Jones going in your drafts? Right now I’m leaning Mixon/Jacobs in first and Jones/Drake in 2nd (non PPR). Then WR/WR unless something falls in my lap. Will get 3rd and maybe 4th RB in 5-6 turn. Praying for a couple I like....

 

[Judge Smails]

I went with Mixon. I didn't like the RB choices in round two so I decided to go RB then WR. I picked Tyreek in the second. I hate the 9 spot because after the top 8 I feel like this is a tier down. I am scared about the Bengal offensive line but they get Jonah Williams back. I love Mixon's talent and I'm hoping Burrow takes this offense to a new level. Burrow through a ton to CEH and Mixon is a great receiver. We'll see. This wasn't my favorite draft but I don't hate it.

1) Mixon

2) Tyreek

3) Conner.....Kittle went one before me. I would have taken Golladay or Jonathan Taylor  but they were gone. 

4) AJ Brown

5) Andrews

6) Diggs

7) Moss

 This is in the NFFC were we have 3rd round reversal. Instead of the first pick going back to back in the third it goes back to the 12 pick. 

Which RB’s did you pass on to get Hill? I actually wouldn’t mind going WR in the second if I knew that Conner would get back to me. He’s near the end of my last acceptable RB2

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Where is Aaron Jones going in your drafts? 

I got him at 2.05 (last of the tier)

 

[rick6668]

Was drafting in the 8 spot in another league (very close to 9) and ended up having Thomas fall to me at 8, I still got Jacobs at 2.05.  Was pleased with that, but for round 3 there were no RB's that I thought had good value as Conner was selected right before me.  With 4 QB's and 2 TE's already gone, I couldn't pass on Evans and then on the way back 4 more RB's went and I didn't like them either.  Went WR again with Cooper and then went WR again in round 5 with K. Allen.

I feel like I made a mistake here, as the next best RB was Gibson in the 6th.  (No RBs went between my 5th and 6th, so I feel Allen was the right pick)  We start 3 WR's and a flex, so I have the best WR's by far, but if I had to do it again, I maybe would have liked to get an RB in the 3rd/4th instead.   

Not sure how I feel about my draft at this point.  I went RB in the next 2 rounds as well with White/Cohen for some depth, but there were some good WR's to get late and I feel I sacrificed too much.  I guess we'll see how the season goes.

 

[-jb-]

Seriously considering going RB/Lamar in a ten teamer. Would need an RB to fall in the third though. Could still potentially grab a DJ or Gurley if Connor not there. 

 

[Mongidig]

Which RB’s did you pass on to get Hill? I actually wouldn’t mind going WR in the second if I knew that Conner would get back to me. He’s near the end of my last acceptable RB2

Aaron Jones and Nick Chubb were all that were left. I got Conner about six spots later than he normally goes. I wanted Tyreek so I didn't consider Jones there but he wouldn't have been a bad pick.

 

[Mongidig]

Seriously considering going RB/Lamar in a ten teamer. Would need an RB to fall in the third though. Could still potentially grab a DJ or Gurley if Connor not there. 

You can do that in a ten teamer.