How do you feel about not just drafting 2 wrs of the same team, but starting them. Now obviously you're not going to start 2 wrs from the vikes, or the ravens, but how bout fitz and boldin? Its an extreme case of too many eggs in same basket, but some weeks it will be huge. The real question I have is, other weeks will it be adequate, or is this a recipe of win or lose any given week based mainly on how the wrs do. Any thoughts?!? With fitz and boldin, it won't be hard to move one. Just don't want the season tanking early due to starting both and paying a hefty price for some low scoring az games...
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drafting/starting 2 WRs from the same team (1 Viewer)
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I have both Reggie Wayne w1 and Anthony Gonzalez wr3 in one league. I'm confident starting both during bye weeks, or at flex when my backup rb's have unfavorable matchups. There are very few teams I'd have done this with:Indy, Az, NE but thats about it. Add Dallas if you include TE's.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
In a 14 team league, I ended up taking TJ Housh, S. Holmes and C. Johnson in rounds 3, 4 and 5.
I'll probably be starting all 3 of those guys, 2 Cinci Bengals if there isn't anymore setbacks to those guys and the weather is fine. Baltimore hasn't been a bad passing matchup as of late, especially with Cinci's current running game.
I'm not a proponent of starting two from the same team, not even close but it's where value fell to me during the draft and I'll probably find a way to trade during the season to make this team a little more stable.
I'll probably be starting all 3 of those guys, 2 Cinci Bengals if there isn't anymore setbacks to those guys and the weather is fine. Baltimore hasn't been a bad passing matchup as of late, especially with Cinci's current running game.
I'm not a proponent of starting two from the same team, not even close but it's where value fell to me during the draft and I'll probably find a way to trade during the season to make this team a little more stable.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I think it limits your upside. It can work if you have big time 1a and 1b types. A few years ago Wayne/Harrison fit that bill. Housh/CJ in a perfect world may make sense, but having 2 Bengals starting on your roster right now will lead to a lot of meds. Moss/Welker? OK. Not that many others. Wouldn't mind Edwards/Winslow or TO/Witten for WR/TE combos.
It really depends on the WR's. I had Harrison/Wayne in 06' and they carried me all year. A guy in my league last year had Ocho and Housh and he was a contender. I'm very much of the belief that you should just take the best WR's, and if they happen to be on the same team then they happen to be on the same team.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
PPR leagues:
If you're talking the upper echelon WR combo's, go for it.
I've done this quite a few times & see no downside of it. The name of the game is consistency. If you can get a Wayne/Harrison, Johnson/Housh, Bush/Colston, Owens/Witten, Fitz/Boldin (though the prospect of Leinart starting scares me away a bit from them. With Warner, they've got as much upside as any. I'd go Warner/Fitzgerald if given the choice).
The one I targeting right now is Cutler/Marshall/Scheffler. (I like the price they were all coming at. Marshall's value is bound to rebound with suspension reduction. Scheffler's coming dirt cheap right now as a TE2. If it doesn't pay off, can drop him). Also have Bush/Colston on a team.
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I'd much rather have the WR-WR combo or QB-WR combo than settling for a marginal RB2 (which when taking that 2nd WR, most times you're doing).
If you're talking the upper echelon WR combo's, go for it.
I've done this quite a few times & see no downside of it. The name of the game is consistency. If you can get a Wayne/Harrison, Johnson/Housh, Bush/Colston, Owens/Witten, Fitz/Boldin (though the prospect of Leinart starting scares me away a bit from them. With Warner, they've got as much upside as any. I'd go Warner/Fitzgerald if given the choice).
The one I targeting right now is Cutler/Marshall/Scheffler. (I like the price they were all coming at. Marshall's value is bound to rebound with suspension reduction. Scheffler's coming dirt cheap right now as a TE2. If it doesn't pay off, can drop him). Also have Bush/Colston on a team.
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I'd much rather have the WR-WR combo or QB-WR combo than settling for a marginal RB2 (which when taking that 2nd WR, most times you're doing).
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T Bell
Footballguy
I don't like putting all of my eggs in one basket. The only time you can get away with such an arrangement is when you have an elite (not just good or even very good) QB throwing to two top-10 WR's. That combination is rare (doesn't happen every year) and is even tougher to identify in advance.Some great points made here. I agree wholeheartedly with this one. Boldin was sitting at a point in the draft where like 10 guys on my list below him were already gone. Still gave it an extended thought, but then pulled the lever. Value was solid there, so even if I decide to trade him or Fitz, I should get more back than if I had taken someone else 11 slots below. I just think it can cost some weeks, and in a head to head I'd prefer consistency. But the flip side of that is if you have Fitz and another receiver, they can both have off weeks the same week and the outcome would be the same. Dunno, will ride it for the first 2 weeks to get a feel. I also agree that Wayne and Marvin of yesteryears I'd have no issues with. ocho and TJ is very high risk IMO, though I'm a strong believer in the Cinci O having a resurgent year this year. I think Perry is the perfect fit for that O, and Uteck will add another dimension. Cinco should be able to play through the injury, it'll only limit him in some of the acrobatic catches, which are far and few between anyways...Thanks for the input guys, cool board...
crazyleggs
Footballguy
What about Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams? I know Martz is gone but Detroit should still be behind in several games and both of these guys are incredible athletes. You have to think at least one of them will produce well every week right? Kitna isn't THAT bad.
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bentley
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I don't think it has anything to do with two necessarily from the same team. If two play for the same team and that squad throws enough that they both represent value, then it's a good idea (and not limiting in any way). If it's the Ravens and you've somehow ended up with their top two receivers, the problem was your draft strategy, not that the two wastes of roster space you have on your team both ended up playing for the Ravens.
Chaka
Footballguy
Here is a summary of the article if you didn't read it:Will Grant: "Don't do it with WRs. I have no opinion on other positional combinations."Colin Dowling: "Do it if it's the best player on the board at the time."
Callas Disregard
Footballguy
I did a study on this a few years ago (published on this site). I found that WR-WR combos actually increased your week-to-week consistency, albeit slightly. It seems that when one WR is quiet, the other seems to step up. People warning against putting your eggs in one basket are making a critical analytical error. If the QB isn't throwing to one of the WRs, it's probably because he's throwing to the other. I wouldn't reach for a WR just to have 2 from the same team, but neither would I have any reservations about starting 2 from the same team if that's how the draft went for me.
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thatguy
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I had the Fitz/Boldin duo in 2005 when they both had monster years and pretty much fell in love with the tandem (I think I got Boldin in the 4th that year and Fitz in the 8th, it was the year he exploded). The upside is that you almost always get a good week out of at least one of them - very rarely will both flop. And, most of the time during that season, I got a great week from one of them and a solid week from the other - they helped lead me a championship.
So, in a start up dynasty the next season, I went Fitz in the second and Boldin in the third. It hasn't worked out as well as it did in '05, since both have had minor injury bouts the past couple of years and of course there was the Leinart experiment. However, I am really looking forward to this season, as I think both are in for 2005 type numbers with Warner under center all season.
So, in a start up dynasty the next season, I went Fitz in the second and Boldin in the third. It hasn't worked out as well as it did in '05, since both have had minor injury bouts the past couple of years and of course there was the Leinart experiment. However, I am really looking forward to this season, as I think both are in for 2005 type numbers with Warner under center all season.
thatguy
Footballguy
Some examples from last season of one going off and the other one having a solid week:
Week 3: Boldin 14 181 2, Fitz 5 85 0 -
Week 10: Fitz 8 74 2, Boldin 3 25 0
Week 12: Fitz 9 156 2, Boldin 5 76 0
Week 16: Boldin 13 162 2, Fitz 6 72 0
Week 17: Fitz 11 171 2, Boldin 4 56 1
Granted, it didn't work that way every week, but the only week where one of the players blew up that the other one put up a dud was in week 10, when Boldin went for 3 25 0.
Week 3: Boldin 14 181 2, Fitz 5 85 0 -
Week 10: Fitz 8 74 2, Boldin 3 25 0
Week 12: Fitz 9 156 2, Boldin 5 76 0
Week 16: Boldin 13 162 2, Fitz 6 72 0
Week 17: Fitz 11 171 2, Boldin 4 56 1
Granted, it didn't work that way every week, but the only week where one of the players blew up that the other one put up a dud was in week 10, when Boldin went for 3 25 0.
thatguy
Footballguy
I don't like putting all of my eggs in one basket. The only time you can get away with such an arrangement is when you have an elite (not just good or even very good) QB throwing to two top-10 WR's. That combination is rare (doesn't happen every year) and is even tougher to identify in advance.
Seemed to work out okay for Boldin and Fitz in 2005 with the likes of Warner and McCown.chuckmorris
Footballguy
If during the draft, it just so happens that the best WR's left on the board are from the same team, I'd be hard pressed to argue against taking both, so long as their offense tends to be generally a productive one. Last year, I ended up with Housh and Ocho-Cinco in a league that starts 2 RB's, 2 WR's, and has 1 RB/WR flex spot. With those 2 and Braylon Edwards, all 3 were starters every week, and it worked well enough that I took the title. All that being said, I can certainly understand being reluctant to go that way, since you're dead if the bottom drops out of that offense.
massraider
Footballguy
Good stuff. Your reasoning makes sense, and I ahve no problem grabbing two of the same guy.Won a title one year with Rod Smith/Ed McCaffrey, after missing out on Antonio Freeman (year he fell apart).
