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Drew Stanton - QB3 in this draft? (1 Viewer)

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Some interesting comments from Gruden and Norm Chow - I think Stanton squeaks into the first round and will certainly go before Troy Smith. Thoughts?

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Senior Bowl is final moment for MSU QB Stanton to shine

January 27, 2007

BY SHAWN WINDSOR

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

MOBILE, Ala. -- Today is the last time Drew Stanton will strap on his Michigan State helmet. Every college player faces that bittersweet inevitability.

But Stanton didn't get to do it the way most do. Four plays into MSU's final home game this past season, Stanton was knocked so hard, he suffered a concussion against Minnesota. He watched the end of his season, and his career, from the sideline at Penn State.

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"It was so hard," Stanton said this week as he prepared to play in today's Senior Bowl. "I thought, 'OK, my college career is done.' That's why this week is so important. It's my last chance to be an amateur. It's my last chance to wear that helmet."

That he remains so nostalgic about the green and white says a lot about Stanton's career in East Lansing: so many promising beginnings, so many empty endings. Don't get him wrong about his time there, he said: "It's not like I'm sulking or anything. I loved being a Spartan. I loved the campus, the people. It made me a better person dealing with the adversity. It just didn't turn out the way I'd hoped."

Today, against some of the best players in college football, he gets the chance to play again, before a stadium lined with scouts, analysts, NFL coaches and every other hanger-on in pro football eager to see what he can do.

"He's got all the tools," said Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden, who is in charge of the North team.

The game is the opening conversation in the most important job interview of his life.

It will last until the draft. Along the way, he knows he will be asked to look back.

In the beginning

Stanton arrived at MSU in 2002 as a quarterback prodigy from Farmington Hills Harrison who'd thumbed his nose at Ann Arbor. He bled green and white. He was big with a big arm. He was uncannily elusive in the pocket. And he was stubborn, fond of lowering his shoulder into the scrum -- he was never one to avoid a hit.

He was redshirted as a freshman, arrived in spring camp the following year, and told he was the starter. Then Jeff Smoker, the previous year's starter who'd been suspended, was reinstated and given the job during fall camp. Stanton was asked to play special teams.

"I found out I'd lost my job watching ESPN," Stanton recalled.

And he'd had it. Already, the coach that recruited him -- Bobby Williams -- had been fired. The new coach -- John L. Smith -- didn't seem to have plans for him. And the special teams assignment was simply too much.

So he called his father and asked him to start checking into other schools. Any school would do.

"Anywhere but Michigan State," he said. "I was a couple of days from transferring."

But his father told him to stick it out, as fathers often do. His father told him to trust the new regime, to just keep working.

He flew around the field on punt coverage. Then in the Alamo Bowl against Nebraska, he was clipped from behind. His anterior cruciate ligament snapped.

"I still remember his name," said Stanton. "Ira Cooper. I'd still like to go pay him a visit."

The following year, as a redshirt sophomore, he lost out again when Smith named Damon Dowdell the starter. Then in the third game of the season against Notre Dame, Stanton came off the bench in the second half and passed for 110 yards and rushed for 49. The Spartans lost but found a quarterback.

He won three of the next four games, running all over the field, firing ropes, still lowering his shoulder. He ran wild the next game, too, in Ann Arbor, until he lowered it one too many times, suffering a separated shoulder. Dowdell had to replace him. MSU lost in an overtime classic.

The shoulder kept him out the next week. He returned against Wisconsin. He could barely move his arm. Trainers stretched tape onto the top of his shoulder, affixing it to his chest, so his joint stayed in its socket.

"It was excruciating," he said. "But I threw a touchdown pass."

Even so, some were beginning to think he was injury-prone.

"Flukes," he said. "I don't understand it."

That label followed him to Mobile, where scouts still wonder about his durability. Some wonder about his decision-making, too.

Looking at the next level

For most of the week, Stanton unleashed the skills that once had college analysts talking Heisman. He moved effortlessly from the pocket. He cracked spirals to the sidelines with a tight throwing motion, uncorked from a 6-foot-3, 230-pound frame. At times, he uncorked wobblers, and at others, he missed receivers, but then so did every other quarterback here.

Norm Chow, offensive coordinator for the Tennessee Titans and something of a quarterback guru -- he coached Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart at USC -- admired what he saw.

"I've always liked him," Chow said. "I tried to recruit him. I like his compact style, the efficient manner in which he does things."

Can he excel at the next level?

"I don't think there is any question," Chow said.

He faces adjustments, of course. At MSU, he played out of the shotgun. In the NFL, he won't, which is why he has had to learn the five- and seven-step drops, something Gruden has been working on with him, and something the quarterback coach he hired late last fall is, too.

In fact, after his miserable final season ended with that concussion in early November, he bolted to south Florida. He signed with Drew Rosenhaus. He moved into a condo. He spends his days lifting weights, throwing, perfecting the drops and eating organic foods measured for their caloric intake.

When he left MSU, he was working on a master's degree in sports administration -- he'd already graduated with a bachelor's. But as much as he loved his East Lansing life, he had to get away.

"I wanted to get going, get moving, especially with the way my season ended," he said. "I wanted a fresh start."

He wanted to leave the 0-4 record against Michigan behind, the team's nighttime collapse against Notre Dame, the meltdown against Ohio State in 2005, when the team blew an early lead, and any momentum for the rest of the season.

"That was the lowest," Stanton said.

He knows he made some mistakes at MSU. He knows he wasn't ready to become the starter when Smoker was reinstated. He knows he tried to make plays when there were none. But he has faith that he has learned, and faith, too, that when the NFL studies his game film, it will discern between his own errors and the weight of a team, even a program, crumbling around him.

That's what he hopes to show today, when one of the most electric players in MSU history takes the field one more time wearing the Spartans logo. Some this week have speculated he'll be the third quarterback chosen in the draft.

"He's a tough kid," Gruden said. "He's a quick study. He's been under the gun a little bit for some of his decisions he's made at Michigan State, but man, is he impressive. Drew Stanton has a lot of upside."

Contact SHAWN WINDSOR at 313-222-6487 or swindsor@freepress.com.

 
Some stuff I've read on him since the Senior Bowl started, including stuff from Lammey and Bloom:

Stanton was a little more erratic, though his strong arm and size make him the most prototypical of the trio. Also, quarterbacks were discouraged to run with the ball, something that robbed Stanton of the mobility that has scouts so intrigued. Stanton threw the ball with plenty of force, but often played conservatively, electing to check down to tight ends and running backs rather than attack the perimeter.

Drew Stanton, Mich St - started off slow, got going and has a great delivery, perfect mechanics, over the top throwing motion, proper zip, proper touch, good ball placement, very athletic for his size

Drew Stanton, Mich St – Underthrew and fluttered some passes, Gruden took time to coach him, zip on only one pass, uninspired on option play, half-hearted play fakes (didn’t sell), lethargic footwork in drops, inconsistent

- Drew Stanton may have more upside than does Smith. He had the second best week of all the quarterbacks (really not saying much) and he should good arm strength (even if there was some wobble on a couple longer throws). He could be a second round pick.

While there was a lot of talent in Mobile this year don't expect for any Jay Cutler to be coming out of the 2007 Senior Bowl. Cutler, of course, parlayed a strong showing at last year's event into the 11th pick overall at the 2006 draft. Indeed, figure that of this year's 6 QBs, only Troy Smith of Ohio and Michigan State's Drew Stanton are likely to be even first-day picks this year, although scouts appear to be divided on both. Smith clearly had the more productive week of the two. Smith showed decent arm strength, moved around the pocket well, got rid of the ball very quickly and cleanly and threw a very catchable ball. Still, Smith is barely 6-0 tall and that is going to knock his grade down, although he did a nice job in Mobile - as he did throughout his career with the Buckeyes - sliding around the pocket to find passing lanes. Stanton, on the other hand, wasn't as proficient in Mobile, but because he's bigger and has the stronger arm has more long-term potential. The consensus seems to be , though, that Stanton, who has a noticeable hitch in his delivery, needs some solid pro coaching to develop those physical skills.

I would say the consensus right now is that he's a Day 1 pick, but outside the first. It's also still January, a lot can happen.

 
Boy, those are nice reviews about Drew. Funny how none of those articles mentions his TERRIBLE decision making. The scouts and NFL brass will remember however and he'll be a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick.

 
Mayock and I agreed on Cutler last year in October. In the heat of the Cutler debates here, Quinn would be brought up, and I said I probably liked Stanton better. I wasn't just repeating after Mayock, but he said very similar things. His senior year was disappointing. There does seem to be significant flaws in his game.

I don't get wrapped up in throwing motion, mechanics, footwork and all that jazz, but accuracy issues just won't cut it in the NFL. Stanton has never shown razor sharp accuracy, and until he does, he's just developmental.

Mayock gave his top five QBs after the final practice yesterday.

1. Russell

2. Quinn

3. Kolb

4. Smith

5. Edwards

He then went on to explain From Kolb down to 7 or 8 he was still undecided and needed to see more.

I really loved Stanton a year ago. My current top 5.

1. Russell

2. Smith

3. Quinn

4. Edwards

5. Kolb

I agree skillset and measureables may move Stanton higher in the draft, but right now, I think that would be a mistake. Other than Bloom and Cecil, most pundits don't seem to want to admit how much better Troy Smith is than the other QBs there.

 

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