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DT Johnson's Wasn't Legally Drunk (1 Viewer)

Lucked out by less than a beer's worth of alcohol. Still the damage was done. For a guy his size, a .072 is still a good amount of alcohol and he clearly was pretty stupid to drink that much and then drive. If he'd just taken the breathalyzer on the spot he probably wouldn't have been cited, arrested, or reported and he'd still be a Bear.
Wrong. He broke the law by speeding. After telling the Bears brass he would be a model citizen, this was not a step in the right direction.
 
Lucked out by less than a beer's worth of alcohol. Still the damage was done. For a guy his size, a .072 is still a good amount of alcohol and he clearly was pretty stupid to drink that much and then drive. If he'd just taken the breathalyzer on the spot he probably wouldn't have been cited, arrested, or reported and he'd still be a Bear.
Wrong. He broke the law by speeding. After telling the Bears brass he would be a model citizen, this was not a step in the right direction.
No, but a moving violation is not the end of the world. This is good news for Tank, to be sure. I don't necessarily think that teams should rush out to sign him, I don't think he's a stud, but I am not sure he's a 'bad apple'. The nature of his trangressions are a bit less worrisome.
 
Police Won't Formally Charge DT Tank Johnson, DT Tank Johnson Cleared By Arizona Police
Actually the article doesn't say that. In fact it says nothing new at all about whether charges will be filed or not.
No charges have been filed pending results of a completed investigation, and Duncan declined further comment.Under Arizona law, Johnson could still face a charge for "impairment to the slightest degree." The state has separate charges for blood alcohol levels of .08 or higher and .15 or higher. The "slightest degree" charge usually accompanies the other charges, but the state does not have to show any blood alcohol level to bring the minimum charge.
 
I can see a wrongful termination lawsuit coming.
He still consumed a large amount of alcohol and then drove. Just because it wasn't enough for charges doesn't mean he didn't violate a good behavior code. He only missed it by .008, one beer and he was speeding through a residential zone. I doubt he has much of a case that proves he was keeping his nose clean.
 
I can see a wrongful termination lawsuit coming.
He still consumed a large amount of alcohol and then drove. Just because it wasn't enough for charges doesn't mean he didn't violate a good behavior code. He only missed it by .008, one beer and he was speeding through a residential zone. I doubt he has much of a case that proves he was keeping his nose clean.
Two Beers in one hour = .08 generally speakingSo he really didn't drink that much.

 
Lucked out by less than a beer's worth of alcohol. Still the damage was done. For a guy his size, a .072 is still a good amount of alcohol and he clearly was pretty stupid to drink that much and then drive. If he'd just taken the breathalyzer on the spot he probably wouldn't have been cited, arrested, or reported and he'd still be a Bear.
Wrong. He broke the law by speeding. After telling the Bears brass he would be a model citizen, this was not a step in the right direction.
Yeah but a speeding ticket is a big difference from an arrest. I would have to think that the Bears wouldn't be "embarassed" by a speeding ticket. It's doubtful that every speeding ticket issued to an NFLer is reported nationally unless there is something arrest worthy that goes along with it.
 
I can see a wrongful termination lawsuit coming.
He still consumed a large amount of alcohol and then drove. Just because it wasn't enough for charges doesn't mean he didn't violate a good behavior code. He only missed it by .008, one beer and he was speeding through a residential zone. I doubt he has much of a case that proves he was keeping his nose clean.
Two Beers in one hour = .08 generally speakingSo he really didn't drink that much.
"generally speaking" the people they are talking about when doing that kind of math are considerably less than 325 pounds.
 
I can see a wrongful termination lawsuit coming.
He still consumed a large amount of alcohol and then drove. Just because it wasn't enough for charges doesn't mean he didn't violate a good behavior code. He only missed it by .008, one beer and he was speeding through a residential zone. I doubt he has much of a case that proves he was keeping his nose clean.
Two Beers in one hour = .08 generally speakingSo he really didn't drink that much.
"generally speaking" the people they are talking about when doing that kind of math are considerably less than 325 pounds.
Dinking
Standard drinks of beer, wine or distilled spirits all contain equivalent amounts of alcohol... they're all the same to a breathalyzer.
 
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I can see a wrongful termination lawsuit coming.
He still consumed a large amount of alcohol and then drove. Just because it wasn't enough for charges doesn't mean he didn't violate a good behavior code. He only missed it by .008, one beer and he was speeding through a residential zone. I doubt he has much of a case that proves he was keeping his nose clean.
Two Beers in one hour = .08 generally speakingSo he really didn't drink that much.
"generally speaking" the people they are talking about when doing that kind of math are considerably less than 325 pounds.
Dinking
Standard drinks of beer, wine or distilled spirits all contain equivalent amounts of alcohol... they're all the same to a breathalyzer.
They are talking about how much alcohol is in 1 beer vs 1 glass of wine vs 1 shot, all about the same amount and it will affect the breathalyzer the same. It takes way more than 2 drinks in an hour to get a 325 pound man to .08
 
Just to reiterate a point I made in the first Tank thread - the Bears were saving money. Period. Same thing they are doing with Briggs. Same thing they did with TJ. Same thing the McCaskeys always have done. IMO they are no longer worried about winning (they won enough last year to last for at least a few years), they are worried about making as much profit as quickly as they can off last years results. That should be obvious by now.

If you noticed I had edited my post in the other thread - it had said previously that the McCaskeys KNEW he wasn't drunk when they had Angelo let Tank go. It was just the excuse they needed. I edited it so I wouldn't get in trouble.

Personally I don't care if I am not spoken to again about certain stuff - and you know who you are - the moves this offseason have ALL been dumb and are a reflection of how hard the ownership took the loss in the Superbowl. The McCaskeys took what was the best performance this team has had in 20 years and made the entire team suffer for it. The McCaskeys should be ashamed of how they handled and continue to handle losing the superbowl. As though they had nothing to do with the loss and everything to do with getting there. How dare you. There is a reason why losers lose. Alot of it has to do with attitude. Thank you McCaskeys for running my favorite team into the dirt AGAIN. Maybe you can look forward to hyping your next high draft pick (and you know I know that is exactly what you are planning to do when the superbowl money train runs dry).

Sometimes the egos involved in this game make me sick. Sometimes its just certain people.

 
I can see a wrongful termination lawsuit coming.
He still consumed a large amount of alcohol and then drove. Just because it wasn't enough for charges doesn't mean he didn't violate a good behavior code. He only missed it by .008, one beer and he was speeding through a residential zone. I doubt he has much of a case that proves he was keeping his nose clean.
Two Beers in one hour = .08 generally speakingSo he really didn't drink that much.
"generally speaking" the people they are talking about when doing that kind of math are considerably less than 325 pounds.
Dinking
Standard drinks of beer, wine or distilled spirits all contain equivalent amounts of alcohol... they're all the same to a breathalyzer.
They are talking about how much alcohol is in 1 beer vs 1 glass of wine vs 1 shot, all about the same amount and it will affect the breathalyzer the same. It takes way more than 2 drinks in an hour to get a 325 pound man to .08
Body weight is only one of many factors that affect blood alcohol content. Just because a guy is huge does not mean that he can consume more booze without it affecting his breathalyzer readings. But with that said I think the bigger point has already been brought up by Guzalot.....dude should not have been drinking ANYTHING. Maybe Tank was released for reasons other than this incident but either way the team was well within it's rights.
 
Yawn on the above post by Hairy Snowman.

The Bears are within the allotted percentage they have to be near the salary cap year in and year out. Unlike baseball, there's no 'going cheap' in the NFL.

Briggs can make ten times what he made last year, and then next year he can have a cumulative $15M guaranteed and then still be a free agent the following year. That'll buy a ton of injury insurance.

They dealt Thomas Jones because Benson and Jones couldn't co-exist another year. It'll end up being a helluva trade in the long run, seeing as they parlayed that Jones pick into a late second rounder, TWO third rounders, and a fifth rounder - and could very well use the 2008 3rd rounder this year in the supplemental draft. Not about money at all.

Jerry Angelo would have cut Tank Johnson back when he went out with his now deceased buddy, but Tommie Harris was out, and they knew the only DT pressure would come from Tank - and he darned near got to Manning on that blown coverage play that went for a TD. They warned Tank before his buddy got killed and he humiliated the franchise that same night. He was then suspended by the team, and came back after signing an agreement, which he then violated along with Angelo's, Lovie Smith's and his teammates trust, so he's now history. End of story. Let somebody else take a risk on the guy that got pulled over speeding after drinking at 3:30AM one day after he left Bears mini-camp. Tank Johnson is living proof that when the 'cat' is gone, the mice will play.

 
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I can see a wrongful termination lawsuit coming.
He still consumed a large amount of alcohol and then drove. Just because it wasn't enough for charges doesn't mean he didn't violate a good behavior code. He only missed it by .008, one beer and he was speeding through a residential zone. I doubt he has much of a case that proves he was keeping his nose clean.
Two Beers in one hour = .08 generally speakingSo he really didn't drink that much.
"generally speaking" the people they are talking about when doing that kind of math are considerably less than 325 pounds.
Dinking
Standard drinks of beer, wine or distilled spirits all contain equivalent amounts of alcohol... they're all the same to a breathalyzer.
They are talking about how much alcohol is in 1 beer vs 1 glass of wine vs 1 shot, all about the same amount and it will affect the breathalyzer the same. It takes way more than 2 drinks in an hour to get a 325 pound man to .08
http://www.lanecc.edu/cops/lccprvnt.htm#calculateOnly goes up to 250, but I'd guess he drank at least a 6 pack in an hour (or some functional equivalent with time a factor)

 
What time was he pulled over? I thought it was close to 03:30 which would be almost 90 minutes after a 2 am closing.

Bottom line is that given his situation he shouldn't have been out that late, out drinking, and driving after drinking.

 
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Here in the state of Washington, there are two facets to the DUI laws.

1. Administrative portion by Department Of Licensing

2. Criminal portion through the Criminal Court.

The .08 BAC limit is for the DOL portion which means if you are arrested for DUI and your BAC is .08 or higher, your license to drive will be suspended by DOL for 90 days.

The criminal portion is based on the Officer showing impairment. So, if someone blows a .72 but via the Field Sobriety Test's, the Officer shows impairment, the person can be charged with DUI.

In the above case, the person is charged with DUI but their license would not be suspended by DOL.

**All that to say Tank can still be charged with misdemeanor DUI but his license would not be suspended.**

 
The guy was not drunk, and was doing 40 in a 25, late at night, after minicamp broke.

I don't really have a problem with any of that.

I am not sure 40 in a 25 constitutes a 'bad decision' by Tank. I think maybe carelessness, or got caught in a speed trap. But there is a difference between this, and going 90 in a 55.

 
Lets not forget it was 3:30 in the morning. Speeding isnt the point, nor is his BAC. He clearly didnt take his commitment to being a model citizen seriously. Model citizens dont go out drinking til 330 in the am when they are on probation. End of story. Hence, the guy was either putting on a good show or simply cant discipline himself to make good decisions. Either way he wont be able to keep to the terms of his probation and he will embarass the Bears and the League again and again. Better to cut ties and start looking for plan B. This is really a no brainer.

 
As far as BAC goes, body mass obviously effects the equation. Note that breathalyzers and bloodtests cant test impairment, they only test the percentage of alcohol in the bloodstream. Blood Alcohol Content is the percentage of alcohol in the blood. A person with more blood (a bigger body) will obviously dilute more of the equivalent amount of alcohol, just as adding more coke to your jack makes you taste less jack per sip (although its blasphemy). Thats because there is less jack per sip.

More blood, same amount of alcohol = lower percentage of alcohol.

 
Note also that someone with a high body fat percentage, such as the average NFL Defensive Tackle, will also have a higher percentage of the alcohol that they consume absorbed into their blood stream.

 
How long after he was pulled over did he give the blood sample? One would wonder if enough time had passed between being pulled over and giving the blood sample that it allowed for the .008 (unit?) to have cleared his system. Or do they take that into account when they analyze the sample?

 
Lets not forget it was 3:30 in the morning. Speeding isnt the point, nor is his BAC. He clearly didnt take his commitment to being a model citizen seriously. Model citizens dont go out drinking til 330 in the am when they are on probation. End of story. Hence, the guy was either putting on a good show or simply cant discipline himself to make good decisions. Either way he wont be able to keep to the terms of his probation and he will embarass the Bears and the League again and again. Better to cut ties and start looking for plan B. This is really a no brainer.
Nonsense. Being out at 3:30 is not an indictment in any way. Neither is drinking. He has no alcohol-related trouble that I am aware of.
 
Rodeojones said:
Here in the state of Washington, there are two facets to the DUI laws. 1. Administrative portion by Department Of Licensing2. Criminal portion through the Criminal Court.The .08 BAC limit is for the DOL portion which means if you are arrested for DUI and your BAC is .08 or higher, your license to drive will be suspended by DOL for 90 days. The criminal portion is based on the Officer showing impairment. So, if someone blows a .72 but via the Field Sobriety Test's, the Officer shows impairment, the person can be charged with DUI. In the above case, the person is charged with DUI but their license would not be suspended by DOL. **All that to say Tank can still be charged with misdemeanor DUI but his license would not be suspended.**
AZ is extremely tough on stuff like this so I will be very surprised if they don't levy the lesser charge of driving while impaired on him. Quick story. My brother was at a wedding reception at a house in Phoenix (it was actually for an NFL player we grew up with). He was sauced and was going to spend the night but there was street sweeping the next day so he went out and did a uturn and reparked. 10 seconds in the car. 5 minutes later cops ring the doorbell and arrest him. Couldn't even beat it in court. He spent 10 days work release in "Tent City", complete with pink underwear and bologna sandwiches. And this was (for those who want to claim racism in AZ) an upper middle class white family party.Somebody mentioned the time elapsed between the traffic stop and the blood test, that can work two ways. If it's been awhile since he drank, the BAC will be lower by the time they draw blood. But if they recently drank and the alcohol is still soaking in, it will go up. Another example, when I got mine I blew a .15 at the scene of the thankfully minor crash I caused. 30 minutes later the blood test jumped to .19 because I had just downed a "roadie". Dumb and lucky.And, as for "40 in a 25" isn't bad, I have to disagree greatly. 25s are resdiential zones. And despite the time, if anyone is out taking Fluffy for a midnight walk, a car cruising 15 mph over the speed limit is dangerous. 50 in a 35, not such a big deal, but residential zones are, IMO, a special case. Gotta keep it slow and under control.
 
Lets not forget it was 3:30 in the morning. Speeding isnt the point, nor is his BAC. He clearly didnt take his commitment to being a model citizen seriously. Model citizens dont go out drinking til 330 in the am when they are on probation. End of story. Hence, the guy was either putting on a good show or simply cant discipline himself to make good decisions. Either way he wont be able to keep to the terms of his probation and he will embarass the Bears and the League again and again. Better to cut ties and start looking for plan B. This is really a no brainer.
Nonsense. Being out at 3:30 is not an indictment in any way. Neither is drinking. He has no alcohol-related trouble that I am aware of.
Here is the the portion of the agreement Tank had to abide by as far as Goodell was concerened. This comes off the FBG News Blogger, the day Goodell's decision was released (June 4th):"In a letter to Johnson, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said that he would be prepared to reduce the suspension to the first six regular-season games if Johnson meets certain conditions. The conditions include: No further adverse involvement with law enforcement, compliance with all league requirements, including counseling...,"Just over 2 weeks later he is out drinking and driving at 3:30 in the morning. Taken independently none of the behaviors are necessarily an indictment of Tank. Taken collectively, along with the numerous chances the Bears had given him leading up to this last incident, this is a glaring indictment on his maturity and commitment to his team. As was said before, this is the king of no-brainers. Tank blew it.
 
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Lets not forget it was 3:30 in the morning. Speeding isnt the point, nor is his BAC. He clearly didnt take his commitment to being a model citizen seriously. Model citizens dont go out drinking til 330 in the am when they are on probation. End of story. Hence, the guy was either putting on a good show or simply cant discipline himself to make good decisions. Either way he wont be able to keep to the terms of his probation and he will embarass the Bears and the League again and again. Better to cut ties and start looking for plan B. This is really a no brainer.
Nonsense. Being out at 3:30 is not an indictment in any way. Neither is drinking. He has no alcohol-related trouble that I am aware of.
You are correct. If you break them all down individually it's no big deal.1) Drinking? no big deal2) out at 3:30 am? no big deal3) driving? no big dealDo all three at once? Yes big deal, especially for someone on suspension and whose every action is under scrutiny.
 
Lets not forget it was 3:30 in the morning. Speeding isnt the point, nor is his BAC. He clearly didnt take his commitment to being a model citizen seriously. Model citizens dont go out drinking til 330 in the am when they are on probation. End of story. Hence, the guy was either putting on a good show or simply cant discipline himself to make good decisions. Either way he wont be able to keep to the terms of his probation and he will embarass the Bears and the League again and again. Better to cut ties and start looking for plan B. This is really a no brainer.
Nonsense. Being out at 3:30 is not an indictment in any way. Neither is drinking. He has no alcohol-related trouble that I am aware of.
Thats just silly. Of course its an indictment of his character. There is absolutely no reason in the world a man on probation who has a suspension in the balance needs to be out drinking at 3:30. Its a bad decision and anyone that doesnt recognize that might want to think about AA. Isnt there a reason teams have curfews during the season? Hmm, maybe because being out late drinking can lead to trouble? Did anybody ever get involved in shooting up a strip club, or getting a DUI, or getting in a fist fight while chilling at home or at a hotel? Dont you think a big part of being a 'model citizen' while on probation is avoiding night life?
 
How long after he was pulled over did he give the blood sample? One would wonder if enough time had passed between being pulled over and giving the blood sample that it allowed for the .008 (unit?) to have cleared his system. Or do they take that into account when they analyze the sample?
This was my exact thought when I heard the story this morning on Mike and Mike. Quite frankly, I was surprised they didn't point this out. Most likely, by the time they arrested him, took him to the station or lab, drew the blood, he was no longer legally drunk. In general, you lose one drink an hour in terms of blood-alcohol level. I'd imagine it was at least an hour if not two before they actually stuck him with a needle. I say this when I also think a .008 isn't anywhere close to drunk or even impaired, but that is the society we live in (thanks M.A.D.D.)
 
Of course the media jumps all over the "poor" Tank angle, it was simply a matter of time. Next step, some stupid GM signs him up, who will it be?

 
Just to reiterate a point I made in the first Tank thread - the Bears were saving money. Period. Same thing they are doing with Briggs. Same thing they did with TJ. Same thing the McCaskeys always have done. IMO they are no longer worried about winning (they won enough last year to last for at least a few years), they are worried about making as much profit as quickly as they can off last years results. That should be obvious by now.If you noticed I had edited my post in the other thread - it had said previously that the McCaskeys KNEW he wasn't drunk when they had Angelo let Tank go. It was just the excuse they needed. I edited it so I wouldn't get in trouble.Personally I don't care if I am not spoken to again about certain stuff - and you know who you are - the moves this offseason have ALL been dumb and are a reflection of how hard the ownership took the loss in the Superbowl. The McCaskeys took what was the best performance this team has had in 20 years and made the entire team suffer for it. The McCaskeys should be ashamed of how they handled and continue to handle losing the superbowl. As though they had nothing to do with the loss and everything to do with getting there. How dare you. There is a reason why losers lose. Alot of it has to do with attitude. Thank you McCaskeys for running my favorite team into the dirt AGAIN. Maybe you can look forward to hyping your next high draft pick (and you know I know that is exactly what you are planning to do when the superbowl money train runs dry).Sometimes the egos involved in this game make me sick. Sometimes its just certain people.
You really don't get it do you? I am a Bears fan. I did not like trading Jones, but he wanted a long term contract, and the Bears didn't want to do that. They don't want to sign Briggs to a large, long term contract because they have other priorities. Tommie Harris is going to have to be signed for one. If Grossman plays well he has to be signed. They wanted to sign either Vasher or Tillman, and they got Vasher signed. They got rid of Tank because they told him not to screw up, and he did anyway. He was out at 3:30 in the morning, speeding, when he had been drinking. That is about a month after he got out of jail and told everyone he was going to be NFL man of the year. Would they catch Peyton Manning out at 3:30 in the morning doing the same thing? No, they wouldn't. And if they did he would apologize, and be contrite, and he'd get another chance. That is because he hasn't been doing jail time, on probation, and been suspended by the NFL. The Bears are better off getting rid of Tank, partially because they don't have to pay him. Chances are, considering his track record, he will get in trouble again. So good riddance as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the McCaskey's much either. But it is not like they are dismantling the team to save money. I wish the Bears could have kept Jones, and Briggs, but you have limited resources under the cap and you have to use them wisely.
 
Lets not forget it was 3:30 in the morning. Speeding isnt the point, nor is his BAC. He clearly didnt take his commitment to being a model citizen seriously. Model citizens dont go out drinking til 330 in the am when they are on probation. End of story. Hence, the guy was either putting on a good show or simply cant discipline himself to make good decisions. Either way he wont be able to keep to the terms of his probation and he will embarass the Bears and the League again and again. Better to cut ties and start looking for plan B. This is really a no brainer.
Nonsense. Being out at 3:30 is not an indictment in any way. Neither is drinking. He has no alcohol-related trouble that I am aware of.
Thats just silly. Of course its an indictment of his character. There is absolutely no reason in the world a man on probation who has a suspension in the balance needs to be out drinking at 3:30. Its a bad decision and anyone that doesnt recognize that might want to think about AA. Isnt there a reason teams have curfews during the season? Hmm, maybe because being out late drinking can lead to trouble? Did anybody ever get involved in shooting up a strip club, or getting a DUI, or getting in a fist fight while chilling at home or at a hotel? Dont you think a big part of being a 'model citizen' while on probation is avoiding night life?
Or did anyone ever get involved in shooting up a strip club, at noon on a Saturday? It is possible, but highly unlikely. But when you are out driving around, after you have been drinking, at 3:30 in the morning, chances of bad things happening are much better. Someone mentioned that drinking is a violation of his parole. If that is true that cannot be ignored either. The jail time was for violating his probation. He could go back to jail again for violating his parole.
 
Yawn on the above post by Hairy Snowman.The Bears are within the allotted percentage they have to be near the salary cap year in and year out. Unlike baseball, there's no 'going cheap' in the NFL.Briggs can make ten times what he made last year, and then next year he can have a cumulative $15M guaranteed and then still be a free agent the following year. That'll buy a ton of injury insurance.They dealt Thomas Jones because Benson and Jones couldn't co-exist another year. It'll end up being a helluva trade in the long run, seeing as they parlayed that Jones pick into a late second rounder, TWO third rounders, and a fifth rounder - and could very well use the 2008 3rd rounder this year in the supplemental draft. Not about money at all.Jerry Angelo would have cut Tank Johnson back when he went out with his now deceased buddy, but Tommie Harris was out, and they knew the only DT pressure would come from Tank - and he darned near got to Manning on that blown coverage play that went for a TD. They warned Tank before his buddy got killed and he humiliated the franchise that same night. He was then suspended by the team, and came back after signing an agreement, which he then violated along with Angelo's, Lovie Smith's and his teammates trust, so he's now history. End of story. Let somebody else take a risk on the guy that got pulled over speeding after drinking at 3:30AM one day after he left Bears mini-camp. Tank Johnson is living proof that when the 'cat' is gone, the mice will play.
Thank you :thumbup: To add to Lance Briggs.They offered him $5 million or 5.5 million a year and he declined it. I wouldn't say that is being cheap. I also wouldn't be worried if he didn't play this year. Remember losing Colvin and Holdman, not really b/c Briggs(a 3rd round pick) stepped in next to Urlacher. Now the Bears have two 3rd round picks to step in next to Urlacher. Face it, Jerry Angelo is one of the best general managers in the League and the man can draft. Just sit back and enjoy the winning tradition of the Bears.
 
Yawn on the above post by Hairy Snowman.

The Bears are within the allotted percentage they have to be near the salary cap year in and year out. Unlike baseball, there's no 'going cheap' in the NFL.

Briggs can make ten times what he made last year, and then next year he can have a cumulative $15M guaranteed and then still be a free agent the following year. That'll buy a ton of injury insurance.

They dealt Thomas Jones because Benson and Jones couldn't co-exist another year. It'll end up being a helluva trade in the long run, seeing as they parlayed that Jones pick into a late second rounder, TWO third rounders, and a fifth rounder - and could very well use the 2008 3rd rounder this year in the supplemental draft. Not about money at all.

Jerry Angelo would have cut Tank Johnson back when he went out with his now deceased buddy, but Tommie Harris was out, and they knew the only DT pressure would come from Tank - and he darned near got to Manning on that blown coverage play that went for a TD. They warned Tank before his buddy got killed and he humiliated the franchise that same night. He was then suspended by the team, and came back after signing an agreement, which he then violated along with Angelo's, Lovie Smith's and his teammates trust, so he's now history. End of story. Let somebody else take a risk on the guy that got pulled over speeding after drinking at 3:30AM one day after he left Bears mini-camp. Tank Johnson is living proof that when the 'cat' is gone, the mice will play.
Thank you :hot: To add to Lance Briggs.

They offered him $5 million or 5.5 million a year and he declined it. I wouldn't say that is being cheap. I also wouldn't be worried if he didn't play this year. Remember losing Colvin and Holdman, not really b/c Briggs(a 3rd round pick) stepped in next to Urlacher. Now the Bears have two 3rd round picks to step in next to Urlacher. Face it, Jerry Angelo is one of the best general managers in the League and the man can draft. Just sit back and enjoy the winning tradition of the Bears.
Angelo is one of the best GMs at drafting DEFENSIVE players. The jury's still out on his offensive players imho.I'm just really intrigued that they can use one of the picks they got after trading down from the Thomas Jones pick to nab one of these supplemental draft players. That would be a helluva deal for the Bears. I think they could bolster their O-Line depth with one of these two cats (thanks to GBNReport.com for the acumen):

Jared Gaither, LT, Maryland… 6-8, 350, JR… Entered the 2007 summer supplemental draft when he was declared academically ineligible for the upcoming season; technically would only have been a true junior this fall, but is eligible to jump to the pros because he attended a prep school for a year after high school. Imposing physical presence with the potential to be a shut down LT at the next level; indeed, may be about the closest thing to current Baltimore Pro Bowler Jonathan Ogden to come along in a while, but is still just starting to scratch the surface of his talent; relative newcomer to football who was a basketball player in high school and actually originally signed to play hoops with South Carolina before switching to football; played only one year of prep football and that at DT; tall player with a huge wingspan; naturally strong with good athletic skills including a 36-inch vertical leap which would have been three inches more than the highest figure at this year’s combine; may not time all that well in the 40, but is very nimble on his feet; slides around the pocket with ease and can change directions; has excellent balance and can change directions; athletic knee bender, but needs to concentrate on keeping his pads low all the time; not exactly a road grader but is a solid enough run blocker who gets good position and locks on with long arms; did not allow a sack in 2005 when he started every game at LT for the Terps replacing an injured Stephon Heyer; maturity came into question last fall, though, when he reportedly sulked and got into the coaches’ doghouse after being moved to RT when Heyer was granted another year of eligibility; was suspended briefly at camp last fall and was later suspended from last year's bowl game for violating team rules, although it likely related to missing classes; also battled some nagging injuries late last season… Based on pure physical potential, Gaither may be the best supplemental draft prospect since Bernie Kosar was taken with what turned out to be a #1 pick overall back in the late 1980s, but is a real wild card because of concerns about his level of maturity and work ethic. Complicating the decision for many teams will be the fact that the 2008 draft looks like it will be relatively deep at OT. Teams that use a supplemental pick will, of course, lose their selection in that round at the 2008 draft and teams thinking about bidding on Gaither with an early supplemental choice will have to try and project where they will pick next April and which OTs are likely to be available at that time.

Chris Patrick, OT, Nebraska… 6-4.5, 303, SR, 5.20 While UGA’s Oliver stock slid because of a poor workout, the Huskers’ Patrick saw his status rise after a solid workout. Indeed, there were some reports that Patrick was timed in the 40 in around 5.10 seconds, For the record, only 2-3 offensive linemen timed better at the combine. Later reports, though, suggest that Patrick’s time was actually closer to 5.30 but even that time would have put him in the top half of this year’s combine offensive lineman. Patrick also did 31 reps bench-pressing 225 pounds and turned in a 27-inch vertical leap, again both of which compare favorably with the numbers posted at the combine. Indeed, Patrick is a very good athlete who came to Nebraska as a DE and brings a lit of that nasty defensive temperment to the OL. While Patrick was Nebraska’s starting LT last season, he isn’t all that big at a bulked up 300-plus pounder, and the consensus seems to be that he’d be better suited to playing OG at the next level. In fact, actually only started two games for the Huskers, but because of his experience at OT might have a little extra value because of his versatility. Still its hard to see many teams be being willing to part with anything more than a very late round pick to acquire Patrick.

 

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