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Dwayne Bowe (1 Viewer)

I couldn't keep running with him as a WR3, so I overpaid a bit to get Decker. He's now on my bench behind Fitzgerald, Stevie Johnson, and Decker...and likely Blackmon when he returns.

I usually take a patient approach with slow starts, but from what I've seen out of Bowe, I have little faith he'll turn into much more than a WR4 level player for ROS.

 
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After watching the KC game last week, I cut Bowe (PPR league).

Alex Smith will NOT throw to a receiver unless they are basically wide open. As a result / in addition, he will not throw the ball downfield. Bowe was his first read many times, but almost all of Bowe's routes were deeper routes. Smith would come off him _very_ quickly; not allowing the route to develop. Bowe never had a chance to create separation or find a seam.

I don't think Bowe will have much value till either Alex Smith is no longer the QB -OR- the coaching staff decides to run Bowe on shorter routes (hitches, screens, slants, crossing routes, ...). With neither of those a certainty (and the second one potentially changing game to game), I just couldn't keep him on my roster.

Bowe will get a TD now and then. Inside say...the 15? the 10?, the field will be shortened enough for his routes to be within Alex's zone of acceptable risk. He's basically a goalline WR, if such a thing exists.

 
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Sitting Bowe for likely Deandre Hopkins (though I could lean Marlon Brown, haven't decided yet). I tend to play conservatively, and I don't want to deal with players putting up putrid numbers, even in what should be a good matchup. That said, if you woke up this morning to your opponent's Frank Gore & Anquan Boldin or something silly like that, I could see choosing Bowe's upside against the Giants over a safer pick.

 
Ray said:
After watching the KC game last week, I cut Bowe (PPR league).

Alex Smith will NOT throw to a receiver unless they are basically wide open. As a result / in addition, he will not throw the ball downfield. Bowe was his first read many times, but almost all of Bowe's routes were deeper routes. Smith would come off him _very_ quickly; not allowing the route to develop. Bowe never had a chance to create separation or find a seam.
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This seems like Classic Overreaction to me. Philly never adjusted to the short passing game one iota; I was rather amazed as they continued to let themselves be nickel and dimed to death. How many other defenses will do this throughout the year? Any? Also, whose not to say that Reid won't start adjusting the play-calling to get Bowe involved with Alex's strengths (or lack thereof)?

 
KellysHeroes said:
Playing him, really got no choice
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Me too. I only have him in one league and Lance Moore was sort of my WR4, but I had to dump him and Nelson is out this week so I have no real choice. Bowe should have a good week this week and maybe Avery playing well will open it up a bit more for him. If he doesn't, he will be hard pressed to get back in the lineup until Wayne has his bye as well.

 
Bowe has been a huge disappointment thus far, but this overreaction to last week has to stop. He did after all get 14 targets the first two games, and I suspect that is likely to be the norm way more than games like last week will. He likely won't put up the numbers many of us hoped far, unless he puts up a monster game or two that inflates his overall numbers, but he can still be a solid play for the duration.

 
Ghost Rider said:
Bowe has been a huge disappointment thus far, but this overreaction to last week has to stop. He did after all get 14 targets the first two games, and I suspect that is likely to be the norm way more than games like last week will. He likely won't put up the numbers many of us hoped far, unless he puts up a monster game or two that inflates his overall numbers, but he can still be a solid play for the duration.
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I agree with you in principal - but you can't get around the fact that he has had 4 tds in the last year (3 all of last season and one this year) and he has not broken 100 yard in 12 games. So, while I think he can be a serviceable wr - he cetainly won't aspire to top 25 level and maybe not even top 40. Right now he is somewhere closer to 75 but I realize that one HORRIBLE week (last week) plays a major role in that.

 
Sitting Bowe for Bolden in my flex spot this week.

Wish I could cut him loose but he's stuck to my shoe like old gum. No one wants him, I cant find anything better on the wire, so I'll just ride it out for now. Agree with the previous poster that Bowe always seems to be in mid-route by the time Smith goes through his progressions and checks down to Jamal or Avery crossing underneath. I don't know if thats due to Bowe not being quick enough through the route or Smith getting antsy (or both) but its not good for Bowe either way. And I don't think things will change in the least bit until they absolutely have to. Meanwhile the improved KC defense insures that the offense doesn't ever have to go into catch-up mode, which while perfect for Smith's skills, sux for Bowe (and his owners).

 
KC's defense is the real killer for Bowe. Who expected them to have this kind of unit? Bowe was a better version of Cecil Shorts until this year. While I don't think he will come close to his ADP, he shouldn't be as bad as last week, either. All we can hope for is a good week as a bye week filler.

 
Ghost Rider said:
Bowe has been a huge disappointment thus far, but this overreaction to last week has to stop.
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How does one not overreact to a "huge disappointment"? Your words not mine. At the very least, Bowe owners are fidgeting if they want to trust him again in their lineups. I agree that dropping him outright is the extreme end of the spectrum, but not as drastic as it would once seem not so long ago. If you have a strong enough WR crew or short benches, it's not so crazy to dump him.

 
stbugs said:
KellysHeroes said:
Playing him, really got no choice
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Me too. I only have him in one league and Lance Moore was sort of my WR4, but I had to dump him and Nelson is out this week so I have no real choice. Bowe should have a good week this week and maybe Avery playing well will open it up a bit more for him. If he doesn't, he will be hard pressed to get back in the lineup until Wayne has his bye as well.
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A Johnson sounds healthier now, so I might plug him in and sit either Bowe or Hill

 
Does Bowe draw Amukamara tomorrow? WR1s have done jack versus NYG this year..

Dez - 4/22/0

D.Thomas - 5/52/0

S.Smith - 3/40/0

He hasn't been playing like the teams top WR but sadly I'm betting he'll still be treated as such.

 
Stryker said:
Some Reason I Drafted This POS Over A. Brown And Jordy. Was I Drinking? BelievEd the Preseason "hype"
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I agree--but the thing that scares me the most is that I could see Bowe literally double screwing people. The people who drafted him basically think he's almost droppable--and I imagine a lot of people will drop him--and the moment that happens--I guarantee you that he'll show you signs of life. That's why he's such a cluster. I got him as a throw in on a deal that I just made--and I don't even know how and when to use him.

 
I think Bowe probably has a decent game today but the dynamics going on in KC aren't changing this season. They have a very good defense and a conservative game manager as a QB. Best case for Bowe from here on out is he produces borderline WR2/WR3 numbers. That is why I traded him, stupid draft pick on my part and I couldn't stand to have him on my team the rest of the year. #### him.

 
I still think there is a lot of over reaction to last weeks game. I don't think Bowe will be as good as some people projected him to be but he is not droppable unless you have a very short bench. The gameplan last week was clearly to take advantage of The soft middle of Philadelphia's defense(see hankerson and Royal in week 1 and 2 games) . Bowe was matched up against Cary Williams who is the only player in the Eagles secondary who is anything close to talented. So Andy, knowing how other teams had success against the Eagles and knowing what lousy talent he drafted knew he could exploit this weakness with someone like Avery. Bowes very happy reaction after the game is a good sign. He was happy with the win and knew the gameplan worked. The Chiefs didn't pay all that money for a decoy so I expect Bowe to be more involved most weeks. Bottom line is I don't think his poor numbers has anything to do with how he is playing. It may have more to do with gameplan and Alex Smith's hesitation to throw into tight coverage outside of the hash marks. I think though this will change as they become more familiar with each other's game. He is a WR 3 with upside. Nothing more unless we see this for a few more weeks.

 
Dropping after only 3 games is definitely reactionary. Unless your league has like a 3 or 4 man bench there's no one else out there that still has the potential #1 capabilities.

If you don't want to start him I get that fear but honestly the Giants secondary has been awful. I know the Amukamara stats but I don't see them letting Donnie Avery run wild like last week either. Bowe will get his chances this week. I see 5-85-1 today.

 
tonyftony716 said:
I still think there is a lot of over reaction to last weeks game. I don't think Bowe will be as good as some people projected him to be but he is not droppable unless you have a very short bench. The gameplan last week was clearly to take advantage of The soft middle of Philadelphia's defense(see hankerson and Royal in week 1 and 2 games) . Bowe was matched up against Cary Williams who is the only player in the Eagles secondary who is anything close to talented. So Andy, knowing how other teams had success against the Eagles and knowing what lousy talent he drafted knew he could exploit this weakness with someone like Avery. Bowes very happy reaction after the game is a good sign. He was happy with the win and knew the gameplan worked. The Chiefs didn't pay all that money for a decoy so I expect Bowe to be more involved most weeks. Bottom line is I don't think his poor numbers has anything to do with how he is playing. It may have more to do with gameplan and Alex Smith's hesitation to throw into tight coverage outside of the hash marks. I think though this will change as they become more familiar with each other's game. He is a WR 3 with upside. Nothing more unless we see this for a few more weeks.
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How much money he makes is irrelevant. Coaches don't take that into consideration while drawing up a game plan. They also don't take it into consideration during a game. They are not sitting on the sidelines thinking "we better get Bowe involved - we aren't getting our money's worth."

The only hope for Bowe owner's is that they can get him involved on short and intermediate routes - like the third preseason game. That, or a TD explosion. You never know, he has done it before. If he and Alex Smith can get a little redzone groove going Bowe could do some damage.

 
With the news on vjax I now have no choice but to start this turd. I am not happy about it. I hope he proves me wrong. Smoke if you got em

 
I'm benching until there is a sign of a pulse

Greg Cossel said he looked like a slow TE on tape. Didn't know if it was injury/effort or thats what he is now

 
Didn't Bowe score a TD 14 days ago? A lot of hate for one crappy game. In that game with a TD he had 8 targets!

Overeact much?

And I dont put any weight in week one when they had game won very early. Even then he had 6 targets

 
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SteelerMurf said:
Didn't Bowe score a TD 14 days ago? A lot of hate for one crappy game. In that game with a TD he had 8 targets!
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He will have more TDs, probably at least 6 or 7 for the year, but his upside is nominal. 5/50/1 would be a pleasantly surprising week for Bowe. As such, I'm benching him to go with guys like Gordon and Shorts who are more likely to drop big games. Bowe may be in my line-up as a WR3 during the others' bye weeks, that's it.

 
Everyone who traded away Bowe is going to be in here and talking about how he'll never keep up the pace of what he did v NYG today.

It'll be funny

 
How are we feeling about bowe now?

4 games is a definite trend: the KC defense is top 2 or 3 in the nfl this year.

As long as the defense is that good and KC is playing with a lead Alex smith is a game manager check down Charlie.

Bowe is rendered a decoy.

 
Rotoworld:

According to SI's Greg Bedard, Dwayne Bowe has been a "big problem" for the Chiefs because he's no longer able to beat man coverage.
Bedard is plugged-in around the NFL and does his own film reviews. "Not sure what has happened to him," writes Bedard, "but he lacks explosion and can’t beat man coverage anymore. Defenses don’t fear him at all." We personally haven't noticed anything different about Bowe this season, other than the fact that Alex Smith isn't even trying to get the ball outside the hashmarks. Still, it's a noteworthy take from a pretty trusted observer.

Source: SI.com
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As the proud owner of quite possibly the ugliest receiving core in the history of fantasy football I have no choice (well, a slight choice) but to start this lumbering oaf vs. OAK tomorrow. It's a good match-up, but he already flopped vs. JAC and PHI so far this season.

What's interesting however is his home vs. away stats this year. Check it..

@JAC - 4/30/0

@PHI - 1/4/0

@TEN - 4/35/0

vs.DAL - 4/56/1

vs.NYG - 4/58/1

The sample size is tiny but we could be looking at a trend. Here's to hoping I can get 4/60/1 from the David Garrard of WRs tomorrow.

 
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