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Dwayne Bowe (1 Viewer)

26 targets the past two weeks - will this trend continue?
Im betting on it.

He looked good to me last game (I know some disgree). Should he have come down with a few more of those balls? Yes

Were a ton of those throws absolute garbage? Yes.

Bowe really does have freakish ability. After going most of the season without having to do much or getting targeted, it's somewhat natural he'd be rusty making big plays.

Id start him if I didnt have a sick stable of WRs already, or if matchups were terrible for others

 
26 targets the past two weeks - will this trend continue?
Im betting on it.

He looked good to me last game (I know some disgree). Should he have come down with a few more of those balls? Yes

Were a ton of those throws absolute garbage? Yes.

Bowe really does have freakish ability. After going most of the season without having to do much or getting targeted, it's somewhat natural he'd be rusty making big plays.

Id start him if I didnt have a sick stable of WRs already, or if matchups were terrible for others
Yeah, I disagree but will be trotting him out there with some degree of confidence again this week. I really do question his ability to gain separation, his ability to come down with the ball in traffic and his motivation in general.

I keep having visions of a play earlier in the year where he was targeted on a fade and didn't even remotely try to beat the press and get there. He generally seemed like he didn't give a ####.

He's no doubt talented and the opportunity is there just something is off. His true ceiling, whatever it may be, won't be reach in any game this season.

 
Don't say Bloom didn't try to warn you. See post 51.
He also had him above Foster, Gore, Fitzgerald and James Jones in his projections.
True. I really thought PHI O would do enough to force KC out of comfort zone and give Bowe a decent amount of targets against this weak, weak secondary. Floyd and Royal's numbers last week had me excited to play Bowe for just this week. That won't happen again.
You're killing me again this week by ranking Bowe ahead of Nelson and Boldin.

 
Don't say Bloom didn't try to warn you. See post 51.
He also had him above Foster, Gore, Fitzgerald and James Jones in his projections.
True. I really thought PHI O would do enough to force KC out of comfort zone and give Bowe a decent amount of targets against this weak, weak secondary. Floyd and Royal's numbers last week had me excited to play Bowe for just this week. That won't happen again.
You're killing me again this week by ranking Bowe ahead of Nelson and Boldin.
At the very least his line of thinking is/was solid. The only way Smith will pepper Bowe with targets is if KC is forced out of their comfort zone. KC didn't show any real sense of urgency until the 4th last week and it was reflected in Bowe's stats. He caught two balls in their opening drive but didn't record his third and final catch until there was 3 minutes left in the game.

Vegas is projecting WAS vs. KC to be a close one with KC -3. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that KC will have to throw enough to keep Bowe relevant as a WR3.

Also, if it weren't for an illegal formation penalty, calling back his touchdown, we'd be talking about how he's scored for three consecutive weeks now.

 
SameSongNDance said:
Vegas is projecting WAS vs. KC to be a close one with KC -3. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that KC will have to throw enough to keep Bowe relevant as a WR3.
Maybe, but KC threw a ton in the last three games (125 pass attempts for Smith in those three games), yet Bowe still couldn't break 60 receiving yards in any of those games. Basically, if this guy doesn't score, and he has only scored in four games this year, he is fairly useless, even in PPR (only breaking 10+ points in two of the eight games where he didn't score).

 
cstu said:
Don't say Bloom didn't try to warn you. See post 51.
He also had him above Foster, Gore, Fitzgerald and James Jones in his projections.
True. I really thought PHI O would do enough to force KC out of comfort zone and give Bowe a decent amount of targets against this weak, weak secondary. Floyd and Royal's numbers last week had me excited to play Bowe for just this week. That won't happen again.
You're killing me again this week by ranking Bowe ahead of Nelson and Boldin.
i hear you... 20-35 is treacherous territory at WR. I just can't trust Flynn after last week, and Sherman totally blotted out Boldin last time they played... no easy calls

 
SameSongNDance said:
cstu said:
Don't say Bloom didn't try to warn you. See post 51.
He also had him above Foster, Gore, Fitzgerald and James Jones in his projections.
True. I really thought PHI O would do enough to force KC out of comfort zone and give Bowe a decent amount of targets against this weak, weak secondary. Floyd and Royal's numbers last week had me excited to play Bowe for just this week. That won't happen again.
You're killing me again this week by ranking Bowe ahead of Nelson and Boldin.
At the very least his line of thinking is/was solid. The only way Smith will pepper Bowe with targets is if KC is forced out of their comfort zone. KC didn't show any real sense of urgency until the 4th last week and it was reflected in Bowe's stats. He caught two balls in their opening drive but didn't record his third and final catch until there was 3 minutes left in the game.

Vegas is projecting WAS vs. KC to be a close one with KC -3. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that KC will have to throw enough to keep Bowe relevant as a WR3.

Also, if it weren't for an illegal formation penalty, calling back his touchdown, we'd be talking about how he's scored for three consecutive weeks now.
Great point. I watched that play, something that had absolutely no effect on the play at all. Add a TD and a reception and in PPR, you have 4 consecutive weeks of 15 points per game. That may not seem like a lot, but it is about the average of the bottom of the top 20 WRs. I know I drafted him in 1 league and was hoping for a lot better than that, but with Wayne gone, he has at least gotten back to startable and should have had a TD last week.

 
Don't say Bloom didn't try to warn you. See post 51.
He also had him above Foster, Gore, Fitzgerald and James Jones in his projections.
True. I really thought PHI O would do enough to force KC out of comfort zone and give Bowe a decent amount of targets against this weak, weak secondary. Floyd and Royal's numbers last week had me excited to play Bowe for just this week. That won't happen again.
You're killing me again this week by ranking Bowe ahead of Nelson and Boldin.
i hear you... 20-35 is treacherous territory at WR. I just can't trust Flynn after last week, and Sherman totally blotted out Boldin last time they played... no easy calls
I might have to give Bowe his first start since week 3.

 
4. DeAngelo Hall vs. Dwayne Bowe: The Chiefs wideout is averaging a career-low 11.8 yards per catch and has yet to record a 100-yard game. But in his last game against DeAngelo Hall and the Redskins, Bowe recorded six catches for 109 yards while helping his team to a 14-6 victory. Hall this season has fared well against the top receivers in the league this year; we’ll see if he can deliver once again. Alex Smith this season has 16 touchdown passes and just six interceptions, but two have come in the past two weeks.
 
What's the likelihood of Bowe leaving KC at the end if the year?

Does the contract allow for this and what is the perspective, if any, of both sides concerning this issue?

 
What's the likelihood of Bowe leaving KC at the end if the year?

Does the contract allow for this and what is the perspective, if any, of both sides concerning this issue?
The Chiefs would take a $12M cap hit. It would probably take a 1st for them to do it.

 
Ever since Bowe got caught with bud he's been a high floor/low ceiling WR2 and I've been pretty happy with him in my flex.

How do you guys feel about this weeks match-up @ OAK? They're allowing the 7th most PPG to WRs on the season yet Bowe didn't fair very well versus them the first time around. Also, Bowe's targets have dropped in recent weeks...

BUF - 12 targets

DEN - 14

SD - 6

DEN - 7

WAS - 5

My guess is that he'll likely remain touchdown dependent. I'm undecided as to whether or not I'll rolling him out again this week.

 
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How do you guys feel about this weeks match-up @ OAK? They're allowing the 7th most PPG to WRs on the season yet Bowe didn't fair very well versus them the first time around. Also, Bowe's targets have dropped in recent weeks...
He's been pretty steady the last month or so. Right now I have him in as my WR2 over Kendall Wright, who bombed last week and has a pretty bad matchup this week. My main fear with Bowe is if they get up early and just run the ball..

 
How do you guys feel about this weeks match-up @ OAK? They're allowing the 7th most PPG to WRs on the season yet Bowe didn't fair very well versus them the first time around. Also, Bowe's targets have dropped in recent weeks...
He's been pretty steady the last month or so. Right now I have him in as my WR2 over Kendall Wright, who bombed last week and has a pretty bad matchup this week. My main fear with Bowe is if they get up early and just run the ball..
If he doesn't score a touchdown he probably won't do much. He hasn't had more than 67 receiving yards in any given game. He has been steady because he scored in three out of four, but is that really reliable?

That said, I am leaning towards going with him over Doug Baldwin.

 
Rotoworld:

Dwayne Bowe said he plans on changing the way he eats this offseason and wants to work on his endurance.

"One thing I want to work on — my endurance," Bowe said. "I was really, really tired that last game." Bowe, who is listed at 6-foot-2, 221, added that he wants to play around 208 pounds in 2014 in an effort to become "more explosive and faster." He's coming off one of his worst statistical seasons, but it wasn't all Bowe's fault. Alex Smith enjoyed checking the ball down to Jamaal Charles and his tight ends. Bowe will be drafted as a mid-range WR3 in fantasy next summer.


Source: Kansas City Star
 
If the Chiefs extend Smith it doesn't matter if Bowe contracts
I know Bowe was disappointing, I had him on one team (picked him up in another), but he wasn't bad in the second half starting with the Bills game:

Bills: 7-67

Broncos: 4-57 1TD

Chargers: 5-51 1 TD

Broncos: 3-56 (he had an @15 yard TD called back because the LT was lined up too far back, BS call, should have been a 4-70 1TD game)

Redskins: 4-70 1TD

Raiders: 3-24 (this was the game that the Raiders decided to not tackle Jamal Charles on screen passes)

Colts: 5-46

Chargers: DNP, whole team rested

Colts: 8-150 1TD

So, last 8 games played he was 39-528 4 TDs, and should have had 40-543 5 TDs. While that isn't earth shattering, it does show that Smith targeted him a lot more in the second half. He really only had 1 big game, offset by one bad one where Oakland's D let Charles run wild. He was really consistent.

He could be a very nice value next year if people don't look at the progression. He will probably be drafted pretty late. I would take 70-80 receptions, 1000 yards and 8-10TDs for a WR3.

 
If the Chiefs extend Smith it doesn't matter if Bowe contracts
I know Bowe was disappointing, I had him on one team (picked him up in another), but he wasn't bad in the second half starting with the Bills game:

Bills: 7-67

Broncos: 4-57 1TD

Chargers: 5-51 1 TD

Broncos: 3-56 (he had an @15 yard TD called back because the LT was lined up too far back, BS call, should have been a 4-70 1TD game)

Redskins: 4-70 1TD

Raiders: 3-24 (this was the game that the Raiders decided to not tackle Jamal Charles on screen passes)

Colts: 5-46

Chargers: DNP, whole team rested

Colts: 8-150 1TD

So, last 8 games played he was 39-528 4 TDs, and should have had 40-543 5 TDs. While that isn't earth shattering, it does show that Smith targeted him a lot more in the second half. He really only had 1 big game, offset by one bad one where Oakland's D let Charles run wild. He was really consistent.

He could be a very nice value next year if people don't look at the progression. He will probably be drafted pretty late. I would take 70-80 receptions, 1000 yards and 8-10TDs for a WR3.
I remember reading a RotoWorld blurb that said he was working out of the slot more towards the end of the season. I know PFF used to provide snap counts for free, but I think they charge now. Im not sure if anyone else provides stats that could confirm this.

 
If the Chiefs extend Smith it doesn't matter if Bowe contracts
I know Bowe was disappointing, I had him on one team (picked him up in another), but he wasn't bad in the second half starting with the Bills game:

Bills: 7-67

Broncos: 4-57 1TD

Chargers: 5-51 1 TD

Broncos: 3-56 (he had an @15 yard TD called back because the LT was lined up too far back, BS call, should have been a 4-70 1TD game)

Redskins: 4-70 1TD

Raiders: 3-24 (this was the game that the Raiders decided to not tackle Jamal Charles on screen passes)

Colts: 5-46

Chargers: DNP, whole team rested

Colts: 8-150 1TD

So, last 8 games played he was 39-528 4 TDs, and should have had 40-543 5 TDs. While that isn't earth shattering, it does show that Smith targeted him a lot more in the second half. He really only had 1 big game, offset by one bad one where Oakland's D let Charles run wild. He was really consistent.

He could be a very nice value next year if people don't look at the progression. He will probably be drafted pretty late. I would take 70-80 receptions, 1000 yards and 8-10TDs for a WR3.
I remember reading a RotoWorld blurb that said he was working out of the slot more towards the end of the season. I know PFF used to provide snap counts for free, but I think they charge now. Im not sure if anyone else provides stats that could confirm this.
Not sure about that at all. It definitely seemed like they realized he is an asset later in the season. I recall earlier games where they literally ignored him, so not sure if that was Smith getting comfortable or outsmarting themselves by using him as a decoy. I also think that teams wised up a little on Charles (except Oakland). Not that he wasn't considered a stud but that in the early season teams planned for Bowe and Charles, but after the beginning I think they realize how much more Charles was going to be utilized and maybe let Bowe run a little more free. He was definitely doubled a lot in the early games I watched.

Either way, I have a feeling he is going to be a solid value next year just based on where he will be drafted. Bowe finished 42nd in my PPR league that I had him in, which isn't even startable, but pro rate the games above to a full season and he is closer to 15th-18th. I could see him drafted as a WR3-4 and while I don't think he will dazzle like he has in the past, he could easily outperform his draft slot. Maybe he will get hyped up more, but based on the end of the season where he and Smith gelled a bit, I would be happy to get him as my WR3/4.

 
The highest a WR on an Alex Smith QBed team has ever finished is 2011 Michael Crabtree who clocked in at WR33 with 874 - 4. Bowe is a better player than his stats showed this year, but I have a pretty hard time seeing him regaining FF relevance as long as his QB is content with the safe checkdown throw to Charles, McCluster, etc.

 
The highest a WR on an Alex Smith QBed team has ever finished is 2011 Michael Crabtree who clocked in at WR33 with 874 - 4. Bowe is a better player than his stats showed this year, but I have a pretty hard time seeing him regaining FF relevance as long as his QB is content with the safe checkdown throw to Charles, McCluster, etc.
So what? Crabtree was just starting to get his footing as a WR in 2011. Also, in his last games Bowe had 528-4TDs, which pace wise blows away Crabtree's 2011.

What about Crabtree's 85-1105-9 in 2012? Smith was 6-2-1 before Kaep took over and Crabtree really came on with Kaep. That said, Crabtree, still had games of 7-76, 6-67, 6-40, 6-113-1TD, 5-72-2TDs, 6-70-1TD (TD was from Smith in 8 attempts) in those 9 games with Smith. That is 6 of 9 good to great games with Smith.

People forget about Smith in 2012 because of Kaep, but he Smith was having his best year ever QB rating wise, YPA wise, TD% wise, etc. He had 6 of 8 games over 200 yards where he had enough pass attempts and 4 of 8 games with multiple TDs. 2013 was Smith's best yardage and TD totals for his career. I know he hasn't been fantasy gold like some other QBs, but Smith from 2011-2013 has really improved as a passer. Heck, in 2011 and 2013, Smith now has 874 yards and 9 TDs in 3 playoff games. Unfortunately, he got hurt in 2012 and then switched teams/OCs in 2013, but 2014 should be an improvement for Smith and most likely an improvement in Bowe as well.

Again, Bowe over the second half/playoffs was averaging around the same as the 15th-18th ranked WRs in PPR. Regardless of him being disappointing from where he was drafted, stating he has no fantasy relevance is wrong.

 
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Rotoworld:

Dwayne Bowe's attorney filed a motion to suppress evidence related to a November arrest for marijuana possession.
The attorney contends the search of Bowe's vehicle and person was conducted without a valid warrant, without probable cause, and in an unreasonable manner. If the judge grants the motion, the evidence in the case would be thrown out. Bowe could still be subject to league discipline over the incident.

Source: Kansas City Star
 
Again, Bowe over the second half/playoffs was averaging around the same as the 15th-18th ranked WRs in PPR. Regardless of him being disappointing from where he was drafted, stating he has no fantasy relevance is wrong.
I agree with all you wrote, but part of what having fantasy relevance means is trust that a player will perform well. It could change but right now I have no faith that Bowe will put up more than 5-10 points. Really all I'm hoping for if I have to start him is that he'll get a TD because otherwise he's likely going to hurt my team.

 
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Outside of the rb mess they have in Carolina, I don't think there is a player who's talent is more wasted than Bowe in Reid's offense right now. I think 900/4 optimistic projection which I would be surprised he reaches. This team is built on running and safe short efficient passes.

I doubt the Oline losses they are suffering are going to lead to more deep passes.

 
Again, Bowe over the second half/playoffs was averaging around the same as the 15th-18th ranked WRs in PPR. Regardless of him being disappointing from where he was drafted, stating he has no fantasy relevance is wrong.
I agree with all you wrote, but part of what having fantasy relevance means is trust that a player will perform well. It could change but right now I have no faith that Bowe will put up more than 5-10 points. Really all I'm hoping for if I have to start him is that he'll get a TD because otherwise he's likely going to hurt my team.
PPR or not? I only play PPR and he was actually pretty reliable in the second half. In PPR, he had 13, 15, 16, 8*, 17, 5** and 9***.

* - In this game against Denver, he scored a TD, but it got called back on an awful call not even close to the play (I watched that game). He should have had 15 points.

** - Bad game, but if you don't recall this was the game where the Raiders couldn't touch Charles. If every dump off pass is going for a TD, hard for a WR to do anything.

*** - This was the last game he played and KC was already slotted in their 5 seed, so it was a meaningless game.

Again, aside from the Charles game, he "should have" had between 13-17 PPR points except for the last game that didn't count. I played him and was happy with his WR3 production. He didn't perform well for where he was drafted, but he definitely appeared to have much better chemistry with Smith in the second half. No bad call and he has a TD in 4 straight games before the Charles game and a meaningless game.

ETA: I think Bowe could be a real nice value, especially if they take a rookie WR and he becomes a WR4 value. Right now, I would bet he is in the WR3 range already.

 
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Dwayne Bowe - WR - Chiefs

Dwayne Bowe has been working with a nutritionist and personal trainer for the last two months.

Bowe says it's the first time in his career he's hired the combo to prepare for a season. There were early-season rumors last year that Bowe was playing too heavy, though it wasn't evident on his game tape. His production picked up late in the season as Alex Smith showed an improved willingness to pull the trigger on intermediate and downfield throws. Bowe is entering his age-30 season. We don't expect a huge bounce back, but he'll he worth a look as a fantasy WR3.

Source: Terez Paylor on Twitter

Apr 21 - 2:53 PM
 
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Rotoworld:

The Kansas City Star claims Dwayne Bowe "looked great" during offseason workouts.

Bowe hired a nutritionist and personal trainer for the first time in his career, and is participating in Larry Fitzgerald's camp in Minnesota. NFL Films' Greg Cosell recently noted that he thought Bowe looked slower than ever on tape last season. "I remember Ron Jaworski and I talking about that you know Week 7, Week 8," Cosell said on John Hansen's podcast. "We really thought Dwayne Bowe lost something. You know he was never a burner as you said, but he wasn't slow either. He wasn't a plodder. There were times last year I thought he kinda looked that way. So this is a very interesting year for Dwayne Bowe."

Source: Kansas City Star

Jul 13 - 2:40 PM
 
Dwayne Bowe - WR - Chiefs
Dwayne Bowe says he's "made the initiative to be in better shape" this season and is down to 212 pounds.
Bowe's been playing at 222-225 since entering the league. This offseason, he hired a nutritionist and focused on a diet that featured fish, vegetables, and fewer carbs. Bowe is entering his age-30 season and has made it a point to focus on his conditioning in order to continue playing at a high level. We're not expecting a big bounce-back season because he'll be limited mostly by Alex Smith and the Chiefs offense going through Jamaal Charles. But he has WR3 appeal.


Source: USA Today
Jul 14 - 6:53 PM

 
Dwayne Bowe - WR - Chiefs
The NFL is still looking at Dwayne Bowe's November arrest for marijuana.
Bowe ended up pleading guilty to defective equipment and littering charges, paying a mere $610 fine. We're not expecting this to result in any league discipline, but it's possible it will count as a strike against the personal conduct policy. The NFL said Monday that the case is pending.


Source: USA Today
Jul 16 - 9:05 AM

 
I fell for it with Bowe last year, but I won't this year. 44 touchdowns in 7 NFL seasons isn't exactly lighting the world on fire, especially when you consider that 13 of them came in that ridiculous 7-game stretch he had in 2010. And who really thinks he will do that again. The number 1 WR in an Andy Reid offense should normally be productive, but with Alex Smith at QB, his upside is severely limited. Pass.

 
I love when people base this years outlook on last years production. Bowe = value this year.
I believe this could be true, but his upside appears limited. I mean, what's his ADP? WR39? Sure, he's technically value if he finishes WR36, but he doesn't have much chance to break into the top 20 without a disproportionate number of TDs. Alex Smith's average pass traveled, what, 7 yards? You think he's going to become more of a downfield passer now that he's lost 60% of his offensive line? If you aren't playing full point PPR then Bowe is a hard sell for anything more than a WR3 at a WR4 price.

I think Bowe is a strong candidate to finish with something in the range of 70-85 rec, 850-1000 yards, and 5-7 TDs. So yeah, that's pretty nice in 1ppr, but if not, it's nothing to get excited about. If he hits the top limit of that then you've got yourself a mid-level WR2 for a late WR3/early WR4 price, but keep in mind, that's the upside. If he ends up with 70/835/5 (an improvement on last year) then he's outperformed his ADP but you'd probably have been better of taking someone else in the 9th round and streaming your WR3 than playing him every week.

I guess it all depends on your draft strategy. If you simply want each guy to out perform the draft slot you picked him in then he's a good candidate, but if you are looking to hit a home run then you'd favor a riskier pick like T.Austin or Nicks. I understand both rationales.

 
KellysHeroes said:
need2know said:
Grahamburn said:
This is the kind of positive info you want to see on Bowe. Big year coming. Criminally undervalued.
Is this a joke? Hard to get excited about the kc passing game
Actually, Smith did pretty decent last yr.
Define pretty decent. About a third of his yardage and TDs came from passes to the RBs. He averaged 6.3 YPA while targeting RBs and 6.5 on the season, so the WR/TE positions weren't getting much more downfield and/or in space than the RBs. After losing three offensive linemen, it's hard to get excited about the WR/TE positions there.

 
Leaving out Week 17, which most leagues don't play, Smith finished as the 11th best fantasy QB last year. Even if you use Week 17, when he didn't play at all, he still finished around 15th. Is that not pretty decent?

 

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