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[Shutout]

Honestly, I don't follow the panthers or really keep up with DWIL. I just generally remember him as a guy I was never as high on as what it always seemed to take to get him, so I've never owned him.

But today, the Panthers officially decided not to tag him so he can go somewhere else. I've thought of possible landing spots and such, but to keep it simple, what's his general value for the season? Is he a sure fire starter SOMEWHERE? Is he a top 15-ish back?

What do you some of you guys that know him well think?

 

[5Rings]

some guys in the trade thread seem to think he can be a RB1 in the right spot.

...but panther homers say he has expressed that he doesn't want to leave CAR.

he's 27 years old, yet has not had very many touches (850ish?)

he has only been a rb1 once, his big 18 TD season.

the last two seasons have ended for DeW on IR.

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

He's a hold in fantasy. If someone is willing to pay a high price to gamble that he signs with Miami/New England/Indy/New Orleans, I would sell him. Because if he does end up giving Carolina a discount to remain a Panther, his value will plummet.

 

[doubletrouble]

Miami or Denver...

 

[No Way Jose]

Denver would be a great fit..Moreno needs help.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

If he lands in Miami, Indy or New England I'll be drafting him in every league. Especially if I can get him in the mid-to-late 2nd round.

 

[The Berry Man]

Still one of the more talented RB's in the league, I think he's a buy if you can get him at a good price, but I'm guessing most owners are happy that it looks like he's leaving Carolina and are going to wait to see where he lands. Wherever he lands, the RB's with him won't be as talented as Stewart and, in all liklihood, the passing attack won't be as dreadful as Carolina's.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Still one of the more talented RB's in the league, I think he's a buy if you can get him at a good price, but I'm guessing most owners are happy that it looks like he's leaving Carolina and are going to wait to see where he lands. Wherever he lands, the RB's with him won't be as talented as Stewart and, in all liklihood, the passing attack won't be as dreadful as Carolina's.

A dreadful passing attack has little to do with the quality of a running game. It's all about the o-line.

 

[The Berry Man]

Still one of the more talented RB's in the league, I think he's a buy if you can get him at a good price, but I'm guessing most owners are happy that it looks like he's leaving Carolina and are going to wait to see where he lands. Wherever he lands, the RB's with him won't be as talented as Stewart and, in all liklihood, the passing attack won't be as dreadful as Carolina's.

A dreadful passing attack has little to do with the quality of a running game. It's all about the o-line.

Having a better offense = longer drives = scoring more touchdowns = more touches and possiblity for touchdowns = +fantasy points. He's leaving a pretty crappy Carolina offense for one that will probably be better.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Still one of the more talented RB's in the league, I think he's a buy if you can get him at a good price, but I'm guessing most owners are happy that it looks like he's leaving Carolina and are going to wait to see where he lands. Wherever he lands, the RB's with him won't be as talented as Stewart and, in all liklihood, the passing attack won't be as dreadful as Carolina's.

A dreadful passing attack has little to do with the quality of a running game. It's all about the o-line.

Having a better offense = longer drives = scoring more touchdowns = more touches and possiblity for touchdowns = +fantasy points. He's leaving a pretty crappy Carolina offense for one that will probably be better.

Just ask SJAX. 10 td's in the last two years from one of the best backs in the league.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Still one of the more talented RB's in the league, I think he's a buy if you can get him at a good price, but I'm guessing most owners are happy that it looks like he's leaving Carolina and are going to wait to see where he lands. Wherever he lands, the RB's with him won't be as talented as Stewart and, in all liklihood, the passing attack won't be as dreadful as Carolina's.

A dreadful passing attack has little to do with the quality of a running game. It's all about the o-line.

Having a better offense = longer drives = scoring more touchdowns = more touches and possiblity for touchdowns = +fantasy points. He's leaving a pretty crappy Carolina offense for one that will probably be better.

Gotcha. Yes, it will likely lead to more scoring opportunities. I took your post to mean an increase in ypc.

 

[captain_amazing]

Still one of the more talented RB's in the league, I think he's a buy if you can get him at a good price, but I'm guessing most owners are happy that it looks like he's leaving Carolina and are going to wait to see where he lands. Wherever he lands, the RB's with him won't be as talented as Stewart and, in all liklihood, the passing attack won't be as dreadful as Carolina's.

A dreadful passing attack has little to do with the quality of a running game. It's all about the o-line.

?? If a team has a terrible passing game, and their opponent knows it, and stacks the box, that won't decrease the quality of a running game, and thus decrease a RBs YPC, and vice versa?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

If a team has a terrible passing game, and their opponent knows it, and stacks the box, that won't decrease the quality of a running game, and thus decrease a RBs YPC, and vice versa?

It sounds pretty and happy on paper, but not so much in reality.In the past three years, only once has a team that was top 5 in passing produced a top 5 fantasy running back. 2010's top two rushers in YPC came from KC and the Giants, both mediocre passing teams. Oakland, Tampa, Arizona, and Washington all had unspectacular runners finish in the top 10 on teams with poor passing attacks for much of the year.Going back another year, in 2009 the only top 10 fantasy running back that came from a good passing team was Adrian Peterson. Ironically, that year Adrian Peterson had the lowest YPC of his career, in spite of playing on a team with a prolific passing offense for the only time in his career, with his other seasons surrounding him with horrid passing offenses.A good passing game helps a the running game, sure. But the extent to which it does monumentally pales in comparison to how much the offensive line and blocking scheme affects it.

 

[Shutout]

If he lands in Miami, Indy or New England I'll be drafting him in every league. Especially if I can get him in the mid-to-late 2nd round.

I had thought (and posted) a few landing spots for him and drooled at the Indy possibilit. But then I realized I was making that connection based on what I DO know about Indy and not really what I DON'T know about DWIL.So, even in Miami, you like him? I guess what I'm asking is do you guys see him being used in the same way (running AND catching), pretty much regardless of where he lands?

 

[Slapdash]

FF is talent+opportunity. He is certainly a top talent at RB, I would expect him to put up big numbers when he has a better opportunity either from less competition or from being away the train wreck the Panthers are.

 

[BigJim®]

the last two seasons have ended for DeW on IR.

Sorry to pick on you, but I've seen this same comment made a few times in DW discussions and the choice of wording comes off as one of those "true but still misleading" statements. Deangelo missed weeks 16-17 of 2009. If the point is IR = obviously bad injury, then its just not true. Deangelo was ready to play in the 2009 Pro Bowl (Feb 2010) so his placement on IR was purely a timing thing, and possibly a "let's get a good look at Stewart since we're 6-8" Panther organization decision rather than a the type of injury people are going to equate with "ended his season on IR."

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Patriots look like an good fit. Faulk, Morris & Taylor are out the door sooner than later. BJGE is the short yard/COP back and Williams has a clearly larger playing time in NE.

 

[Shutout]

the last two seasons have ended for DeW on IR.

Sorry to pick on you, but I've seen this same comment made a few times in DW discussions and the choice of wording comes off as one of those "true but still misleading" statements. Deangelo missed weeks 16-17 of 2009. If the point is IR = obviously bad injury, then its just not true. Deangelo was ready to play in the 2009 Pro Bowl (Feb 2010) so his placement on IR was purely a timing thing, and possibly a "let's get a good look at Stewart since we're 6-8" Panther organization decision rather than a the type of injury people are going to equate with "ended his season on IR."

Good perspective and good info. Thanks for that reminder. That does make it different when you consider the overall circumstances of the time.

 

[Traders2001]

I think the Colts have to look at DW also , Brown is obviously not the answer and Addai is gone .

They need to be able to run the ball, and they havent done it the last two years .

 

[5Rings]

the last two seasons have ended for DeW on IR.

Sorry to pick on you, but I've seen this same comment made a few times in DW discussions and the choice of wording comes off as one of those "true but still misleading" statements. Deangelo missed weeks 16-17 of 2009. If the point is IR = obviously bad injury, then its just not true. Deangelo was ready to play in the 2009 Pro Bowl (Feb 2010) so his placement on IR was purely a timing thing, and possibly a "let's get a good look at Stewart since we're 6-8" Panther organization decision rather than a the type of injury people are going to equate with "ended his season on IR."

No offense taken, I was just kinda summing up the trade thread discussion. Thanks for the good info.How do you value him right now?