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Deuce will be 26 for the majority of next season. As for his talent, NFL scouts love him. He doesn't get to play with Peyton Manning, but then again, there's no guarantee that Edgerrin James will. I don't think he's been re-signed. Deuce had a down year due to his ankle injury, but he should be one of the better RB1 options once again next season.
Be thankful you're not... the frustration of losing year after year would wear you out.I can't see any dynasty top ten list that doesn't have McAllister on it. But then again I've seen lists on this thread with Larry Johnson at #2 and Curtis Martin at #6! That's ridiculous in my opinion, but it's just my opinion. I sure wish I could join a league with you guys though...
Green's too old?Your #1 is Alexander. Birth year for Alexander is 1977. Birth year for Ahman Green is 1977.Their FF final rankings in their years as starters:Alexander 4-5-6-1Green 5-3-13-2-13Granted, Alexander goes ahead of Green in the rankings... but I don't see how they're more than 9 spots apart.
Noting wrong with that at all. I think there's some great options out there.They have? When was the last time they had a top 3 fantasy RB?(besides of course over the last 3 years)All im saying is i would rather go with a young guy that is producing good numbers withOUT a great system, this way i feel i know his downside, and get a better read on his talent.Check the KC history. They've had a great deal of RB success over the years.With an aging Oline, and Vermeil probably gone then, i see a potential for a system breakdown, which i believe is mostly responsible for LJ, Holmes, and Blaylocks production over the last 4 years.I thought this was a dynasty discussion. Assumming Holmes retires after next year I can see him #2. Look past next year and what do you see?I too am a Johnson owner(spent the 1.1 rookie pick on him 2 years ago) and although he single handedly won me my Z5 championship this year, there is no way you can put him at #2, at least not as long as Priest is still in the picture.Wow, even as a Johnson owner myself, I can't see that. Too much team uncertainty after Holmes presumably leaves after next year.
It's all guess work. I don't have the confidence in him to be top 10 outside of the next 1-2 years. I think the other factor that comes into play is the emergence of the 4 rookies from last year. They are bumping some guys out based my expectations of their performance. If not for them he would be in there.
I'll give you the age of 26 and I already stated that I like McCallister's value in a redraft.7 of my top ten wont turn older than 25 by the end of next season. The other three are James who I likened to Faulk or Holmes, Tomlinson who's the best RB in football, and Jamal Lewis. Lewis is only about 8 months younger but IMO a notably better running back. He's also in some real elite company with over 2000 rushing yards. James, LT, and Lewis all went in the top 5 overall in the NFL draft. McCallister should have gone higher than the end of round one of the NFL draft but he's not in the same class as those guys. McCallister is a solid first round pick in a redraft but I wont touch him there in a dynasty. I'm not looking at next season. Again, I'm looking for a career. Next season is only the beginning of that career.
Edit to tone down my comment. I think this has gone way too far. No need to justify anything more. If you disagree then so be it. Just let it go.
Is this directed at me? If so, I'm confused. I and many others have McAllister high on our boards, so seeking the insight of someone who isn't sold on him is perfectly natural. Perhaps you've noticed something about him the rest of us haven't or are alarmed by something we aren't taking seriously?
Yes, this is a huge misunderstanding. It sounds like you have me confused with someone else. I just read the 4 pages of this thread and your comments on McAllister have been as follows:
Until that last snippet where you mentioned depth in RB pool as a reason McAllister won't be top-10, you had given absolutely no analysis to support your opinion.Here are the comments I’ve directed at you:
When I said fishing trip, I believe you misinterpreted it to mean I was fishing. Rather, I was implying you may be since you weren't backing up your assertion very well. Perhaps my third post was a bit snappy so I apologize if it pissed you off. Bottom line is I was looking for something more from you than just he's getting old, he won't be top-10, and he's not Faulk. If you've said anything else about him, the posts have been deleted because they're not there.- Yes, but why? His running style, situation, talent..?
And in the spirit of full disclosure, did you own him this year?
- You're not providing any reasons for your opinion. I'm starting to think this is a really badtrip.
- Calm down, buddy. I never said you're wrong, I just want to know what your reasoning is. So far all you've said is hell be 27 and you don't think he'll be elite. Ok, great but why? Can you give us some analysis on his running style, stats history, offensive system, etc? Otherwise your opinion on him is useless.. it's like someone saying Justin Griffith will be a top-10 dynasty back because he's only 23.
I believe Drugrunner wanted us to discuss these running backs, why are you so unwilling?
Maybe part of the problem is that you don't know McAllister's age. He turned 26 in December.
Good post, your reasoning is sound. I happen to think his injury and the Saints inability to use him effectively once he finally was healthy caused his poor season, which means it's hard to tell if he's actually in a decline. You could be right though. He's a big back - 6'1 235 - and we know those guys don't last very long.
We may only be 1 year off but he's going to be 27 in Feb. 1 year at this point in his carreer is huge. When he plays next year he's 27 and then 28 the following. So let's say he does finish top 10 the next 2 years. He will then be 29. You can see from my previous post that very few RB's have had top 10 fantasy success at age 28-31. Perhaps it would be a better discussion for you or someone to show why he would buck the trend and be in the class of a Faulk/Holmes and pull off top 10 at age 28, 29 or 30 and therefore be a top 10 dynasty pick.
You just made a point I've thinking about since earlier this year. I do not think they are utilizing him correctly. Of course I am no head coach but when you look at 2003 you see they put the ball in his hands running and receiving and was very effective at both. They seemed too predictable at times and clearly did not utilize him like last year. This guy was a WR before he became a RB. He has excellent hands, speed, moves and open field vision that most backs lack in the passing game. There is no one on any D that can cover him with his size, speed, quickness and ability to catch the ball. I remember seeing him make a few spectacular catches last year that blew me away. Why don't they center their offense around this guy?
The OC Mike McCarthy is a moron. He's obviously overwhelmed by the players at his disposal and can't figure out how to get them all involved. I guess with Deuce's injury Brooks became the golden boy of New Orleans and the offense ran exclusively through him most of this year. The Saints seriously opened almost every game with 3 bad passes, punted, got behind, and had to abandon the run. During weeks 3 to 16, they never scored an offensive touchdown in the first quarterYou just made a point I've thinking about since earlier this year. I do not think they are utilizing him correctly. Of course I am no head coach but when you look at 2003 you see they put the ball in his hands running and receiving and was very effective at both. They seemed too predictable at times and clearly did not utilize him like last year. This guy was a WR before he became a RB. He has excellent hands, speed, moves and open field vision that most backs lack in the passing game. There is no one on any D that can cover him with his size, speed, quickness and ability to catch the ball. I remember seeing him make a few spectacular catches last year that blew me away. Why don't they center their offense around this guy?
The game-planning was just atrocious which leads me to believe it has to get better next year. But then again it's the Saints, so who knows.
Just to reiterate HS's point, he just turned 26 eleven days ago - and he will be 26 all of next year's fantasy season. He has four more fantasy seasons before he is 30 during a fantasy season.Deuce McAllister #26 | Running back | New Orleans SaintsHeight: 6-1 Weight: 232 Born: Dec 27, 1978 - Lena, MS College: MississippiDraft: 2001 - 1st round (23rd pick) by the New Orleans Saints
Now I see the problem. I was reading from a page that had the 1 faded and made it look like 2/27/78. That's why I thought he was a year older than he is. Sorry for the confusion guys.
I'm going to stand on my rankings as he is only 1 spot out of the top 10 at 11 anyway.
Yes, the offense is getting way past its prime, with aging players at all the key positions. I believe Gonzo is the only solid starter under 30 on the offense (or maybe it was just top starter).
I may be mistaken, but last I heard, if Vermiel left, Saunders would step in as Head Coach. I suppose he could leave to give the team a new regime, but why would he? Carl Peterson seems to like him, he can just promote within or bring outside guys in.
I think you made a good trade. Ahman still has at least a few years left as a top RB, but once Favre retires, that could definitely hurt his production. Portis had an off year, but is younger and should bounce back.
