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[Dynasty] 2019 NFL Draft Class (2 Viewers)

Dr. Dan said:
I actually agree with these selections 100%. These are the WRs I would not downgrade if they went to Baltimore. I would be perfectly content ranking them where I have them today, which is in my top 5 but no details on where they stand in those top 5 until my pick is on the clock :)
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I took AJ Brown, Kelvin Harmon and Deebo in a startup and I'll be so pissed if one of them goes to Baltimore.  

 
Jello_Biafra said:
I don't know. I have Brown in a devy league and the best I've been offered for him was Hilton. I would think if he goes to Balt., I won't be able to get that. 
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Zyphros said:
I took AJ Brown, Kelvin Harmon and Deebo in a startup and I'll be so pissed if one of them goes to Baltimore.  
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Baltimore is the least attractive landing spot, but the article makes reference to AJ Brown thriving in the short to intermediate routes with room. Butler has the biggest catch radius of tue top wrs. Either one would be okay. The downside is Baltimores run first gameplan which may limit the ceiling, but I am far less worried about Butler and Brown. I'd be disappointed, yes, but I wouldnt call it the kiss of death for those 2

 
I echo Dr Dan’s post, I don’t think Baltimore is the kiss of death.

1) It is very likely if the Ravens draft a WR in the first or second round that player likely ascends to the Ravens WR1. The current roster doesn’t offer a lot of great options. 

2) If the Ravens are goung to succeed they are going to have to evolve the offense and develop the pass game. DCs are going to scout the hell out of the Ravens this offense to stop the run game. I think back to Kaepernick taking the league by storm.  DCs figured it out next the off season. If the Ravens don’t evolve the offense they are going to experience the same challenge.

3) Jackson leaves a lot to desire as a passer but I think he can be calable enough to make the WR1 a relevant fantasy option.

 
Dr. Dan said:
Baltimore is the least attractive landing spot, but the article makes reference to AJ Brown thriving in the short to intermediate routes with room. Butler has the biggest catch radius of tue top wrs. Either one would be okay. The downside is Baltimores run first gameplan which may limit the ceiling, but I am far less worried about Butler and Brown. I'd be disappointed, yes, but I wouldnt call it the kiss of death for those 2
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There’s more downside than that.  Jackson is an inaccurate passer and struggles to read Ds.  There’s a risk there that goes beyond incompletions or that the HC may choose not to throw as much.  It can put WRs in vulnerable positions as they stretch and contort to catch badly thrown balls or as he leads them into severe contact with D players.  

Watch guys like Rodgers, Brady, and Brees throw the ball.  There are times when it looks like they throw a slightly poor pass, but if you look carefully they may be throwing where the WR is the only guy who can get to the ball, or they may be either leading away from or slowing progress to a D player who is waiting to lay a shot on WR.  That’s huge in the NFL.  Jackson (and Allen) have both shown proclivity to putting their receivers in bad spots.  That has to be factored in (or rather it should be).

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Lamar Jackson kills volume  to WRs.  

Harbaugh on Ravens receivers 

...The Ravens' receiving corps went dark after Jackson took over for the final seven games. Of the quarterback's 158 pass attempts after he earned the starting role, wide receivers were targeted an NFL-low 45 times, per ESPN, well under the league average of 80 in that span.

John Brown and Michael Crabtree went from threats to afterthoughts to ex-Ravens in the process.
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Bracie Smathers said:
Lamar Jackson kills volume  to WRs.  

Harbaugh on Ravens receivers 
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yes, cant catch if you arent even thrown to. I guess I see their offense evolving. a rookie qb with wheels and difficulty with throwing/accuracy isnt going to come in and dominate the passing game. If he doesnt get better Baltimore is screwed. I do agree it's the worst landing spot. IMO Butler or Harry end up there.maybe even Marquis Brown 

 
Dr. Dan said:
Baltimore is the least attractive landing spot, but the article makes reference to AJ Brown thriving in the short to intermediate routes with room. Butler has the biggest catch radius of tue top wrs. Either one would be okay. The downside is Baltimores run first gameplan which may limit the ceiling, but I am far less worried about Butler and Brown. I'd be disappointed, yes, but I wouldnt call it the kiss of death for those 2
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32 Counter Pass said:
I echo Dr Dan’s post, I don’t think Baltimore is the kiss of death.

1) It is very likely if the Ravens draft a WR in the first or second round that player likely ascends to the Ravens WR1. The current roster doesn’t offer a lot of great options. 

2) If the Ravens are goung to succeed they are going to have to evolve the offense and develop the pass game. DCs are going to scout the hell out of the Ravens this offense to stop the run game. I think back to Kaepernick taking the league by storm.  DCs figured it out next the off season. If the Ravens don’t evolve the offense they are going to experience the same challenge.

3) Jackson leaves a lot to desire as a passer but I think he can be calable enough to make the WR1 a relevant fantasy option.
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All fair points.  I think I just have way less faith in Lamar as a passer than you two.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt right now and say he'll take a leap forward but even that leap is going to be a bottom 5 team in pass attempts I'm betting.  Plus he isn't accurate.  Any WR is a strict avoid if they land there IMO.  

 
Dr. Dan said:
Bracie Smathers said:
Lamar Jackson kills volume  to WRs.  

Harbaugh on Ravens receivers 
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yes, cant catch if you arent even thrown to. I guess I see their offense evolving. a rookie qb with wheels and difficulty with throwing/accuracy isnt going to come in and dominate the passing game. If he doesnt get better Baltimore is screwed. I do agree it's the worst landing spot. IMO Butler or Harry end up there.maybe even Marquis Brown 
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I believe Jackson had one game over 200 yards passing, gives me pause. 

 
Jackson won't be around long. This year they will realize their mistake. If they don't build a solid top 5 D, they will not win with him. This being a scoring league now, they will have to move on. His style of play doesn't work in the NFL anymore. You absolutely have to be able to pass the ball. You can beat some incompetent teams but any D coordinator with any brains at all single covers the receivers and then stops the run.

 
lod001 said:
Jackson won't be around long. This year they will realize their mistake. If they don't build a solid top 5 D, they will not win with him. This being a scoring league now, they will have to move on. His style of play doesn't work in the NFL anymore. You absolutely have to be able to pass the ball. You can beat some incompetent teams but any D coordinator with any brains at all single covers the receivers and then stops the run.
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I agree with this. It's make or break it. If he doesnt take a step I honestly think they are in the market for a qb in 2020, which isn't a terrible draft to be QB shopping

 
NFL Media's Lance Zierlein wrote Old Dominion WR Travis Fulgham "has the talent to go get the rock."

Zierlein describes Fulgham (6'2/215) as a "big, competitive target with above-average ball skills." Fulgham wasn't very productive through three seasons at Old Dominion but turned in a massive senior campaign with 1083 yards and nine touchdowns on 63 receptions. It wasn't a consistent output with four games over 150 yards and five under 50 yards. Zierlein listed athleticism as a potential issue for Fulgham but put those concerns to rest after producing a solid 65th percentile SPARQ athletic composite score at the NFL Scouting Combine. Fulgham likely sits on the Day 3/UDFA border.

SOURCE: NFL.com

Mar 31, 2019, 9:14 AM
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Ralph Vacchiano of SNY was told by a team source that the Giants will likely select a pass-rusher with the sixth overall pick.

The source told Vacchiano, "As much as we need a young quarterback, I honestly don't know how we can pass on one of the pass rushers at six." Most would agree Eli Manning is on his last leg and while Vacchiano confirms that Ohio State's Dwayne Haskins is a "real option" for the G-Men, GM Dave Gettleman seems to be zeroing in on defense with the sixth pick. The trio of Nick Bosa, Josh Allen and Quinnen Williams probably won't be available at No. 6, but Rashan Gary, Ed Oliver and Montez Sweat should be if New York chooses to address its pass-rushing need. Even with Manning on borrowed time, it doesn't sound like drafting a successor is at the top of Gettleman's to-do list.

SOURCE: SNY

Mar 31, 2019, 8:38 AM
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Dr. Dan said:
lod001 said:
Jackson won't be around long. This year they will realize their mistake. If they don't build a solid top 5 D, they will not win with him. This being a scoring league now, they will have to move on. His style of play doesn't work in the NFL anymore. You absolutely have to be able to pass the ball. You can beat some incompetent teams but any D coordinator with any brains at all single covers the receivers and then stops the run.
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I agree with this. It's make or break it. If he doesnt take a step I honestly think they are in the market for a qb in 2020, which isn't a terrible draft to be QB shopping
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As an unprepared rookie forced to step up early by injury, he took a team with a losing record under Flacco and went 6-1 with the only loss in overtime to playoff bound KC. They were hardly the worst team on the planet. We assume that Darnold and Allen will get much better, but not Jackson. I agree that he will need to pass a lot better to be a competitive QB as defenses get better at stopping his strengths, but it isn't like the teams he played against didn't know who he was and what he could and couldn't do after a game or two with him starting.

I just think your absolute certainty of his demise is way over-stated

 
NFL Media's Lance Zierlein compared Washington RB Myles Gaskin to Bishop Sankey.

Zierlein describes Gaskin (5'9/205) as a "Durable, productive runner who could find the transition from college to pro more challenging due to his lack of size." Gaskin produced a 35th percentile SPARQ athletic composite score at the NFL Scouting Combine after running a 4.58-second 40-yard dash. He can catch passes which helps his chances of making a roster but he's no more than a Day 3 selection.

SOURCE: NFL.com

Mar 31, 2019, 12:59 PM
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According to Pro Football Focus, Texas Tech WR Antoine Wesley led the Big 12 in combined first down and touchdown receptions.

Wesley's (6'4/206) combined for 55 first downs and touchdowns, narrowly beating out Texas WR Lil'Jordan Humphrey (54), Baylor WR Jalen Hurd and Oklahoma WR Marquise Brown. Wesley tested in the 37th percentile of athletic SPARQ composite scores at the NFL Scouting Combine. Despite having "high football IQ" according to an NFL wide receivers coach, it's unlikely Wesley is more than a late-round selection as a big, slow pass-catcher.

SOURCE: Pro Football Focus on Twitter

Mar 31, 2019, 12:31 PM
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One of the interesting stories leading up to the NFL Draft:

Jachai Polite might've had the worst NFL combine of all-time

Jachai Polite Says He 'Wasn't Ready Mentally' After 'Tough' NFL Scouting Combine

Why I'm rooting for Jachai Polite, who has bombed the pre-draft proces

NFL Media analyst Lance Zierlein wrote on Twitter that he believes that Florida DE Jachai Polite may not be drafted until the fourth or fifth round.

Every spring sees a player or two absolutely bomb out during the evaluation process due to character, poor testing or injury, but it's rare that we see a Round 1 talent put it all together for the Triple Crown of poor draft seasons. That has been Polite, reportedly a nightmare interview who has been hampered by hamstring issues in testing and whose tests themselves have been downright disappointing. Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline was still hearing around Polite's pro day this week that there were some teams keeping the door open for a potential first-round selection of the Florida enigma, but noted that that lot is drying up fast. We can't honestly remember the last good piece of Polite news that we have heard this spring.

SOURCE: Lance Zierlein on Twitter

Mar 29, 2019, 1:02 PM
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Bleacher Report's Matt Miller has spoken with "multiple team scouts" who insist that Florida DE Jachai Polite's talent is "too good to overlook late in the first round."

Interesting, very interesting, because this is not the only recent report to suggest that Polite could still see Day 1 interest. Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline relayed likewise this past week. The 6-foot-3, 258-pounder has been a disaster during the evaluating season to date, though apparently not to the point where he has become a complete lost cause to interested NfL parties. Miller tosses out the Chiefs, Rams and Patriots as three teams to watch late on Day 1.

SOURCE: Bleacher Report

Mar 31, 2019, 2:23 PM
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Bleacher Report's Matt Miller called Malone University WR Ashton Dulin one of his favorite late-round/small-school targets for Day 3.

Miller noted on social media that the 6-foot-1, 215-pound Dulin is possessing of both NFL speed and size, with strong film to back it all up. The wideout remains raw, but there's plenty to work with, here. For a countering view, NFL Media's Lance Zierlein wonders if Dulin might just be too far away developmentally.

SOURCE: Matt Miller on Twitter

Apr 1, 2019, 10:15 AM
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Bleacher Report's Matt Miller has UC Davis WR Keelan Doss a Round 4 prospect.

This doesn't necessarily mean that we should expect Doss (6'2/211), but this is a signal that Doss is certainly on the draft radar. In fact, an AFC receivers coach recently said that Doss has "size and understands how to play the position." One of a few small school prospects with a shot of making a 53-man roster, Doss posted a 118-1,334-9 receiving line before adding four catches for 53 yards at the Senior Bowl.

SOURCE: Matt Miller on Twitter

Apr 1, 2019, 11:26 AM
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Bleacher Report's Matt Miller likes Toledo WR Diontae Johnson as a late-round pick.

Miller believes Johnson (5'10/183) does two things particularly well; he can be a returner and he can run routes underneath. On tape, Johnson appears to have some burst, so it was surprising that he only ran the 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine in 4.53 seconds. If he would have clocked in the mid 4.4s, then he would have helped his draft stock, but he's likely heading for a 6th or 7th round pick with a chance of falling out completely.

SOURCE: Matt Miller on Twitter

Apr 1, 2019, 11:11 AM
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Washington RB Myles Gaskin ran the 40-yard dash in an unofficial 4.56 seconds at his pro day.

There was some hope that Gaskin (5'9/205) would be able to improve his 4.58-second time but that wasn't the case. Undersized and a below average athlete, Gaskin will likely struggle to get many touches as a rookie despite having four years of plus-production. NFL Media's Lance Zierlein recently compared Gaskin to Bishop Sankey, but unlike Sankey, Gaskin will be a late-round pick.

SOURCE: Rob Rang on Twitter

Apr 1, 2019, 1:53 PM
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports that the Oakland Raiders are evaluating Ohio State QB Dwayne Haskins and Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray against Derek Carr.

GM Mike Mayock and coach Jon Gruden just spent the last couple days with Murray, and they're meeting with Haskins (6'3/220) tomorrow. After that, they are done evaluating the "top quarterbacks" meaning that Drew Lock is not being considered at No. 4. The Raiders can get out of Carr's contract without much damage after the 2019 season, and the Raiders certainly have the draft capital to get Haskins if they want him. On the flip side, Vegas odds currently give the Arizona Cardinals an 80% chance of selecting Murray, so he's not the most realistic option for Gruden and company.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Apr 1, 2019, 5:31 PM
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Faust said:
Bleacher Report's Matt Miller has UC Davis WR Keelan Doss a Round 4 prospect.

This doesn't necessarily mean that we should expect Doss (6'2/211), but this is a signal that Doss is certainly on the draft radar. In fact, an AFC receivers coach recently said that Doss has "size and understands how to play the position." One of a few small school prospects with a shot of making a 53-man roster, Doss posted a 118-1,334-9 receiving line before adding four catches for 53 yards at the Senior Bowl.

SOURCE: Matt Miller on Twitter

Apr 1, 2019, 11:26 AM
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What a weak endorsement. Could describe almost every college WR over 6' 0"... 

 
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