Lamb WR1
WR Draft Selections Over the Past 10 Years
Early Declare
Total 103
WR3 38.83%
WR2 31.06%
WR1 19.42%
Non-Early Declare
Total 210
WR3 12.85%
WR2 6.66%
WR1 2.38%
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Verrrrry interesting...
Extremely interesting.Andy Dufresne said:Verrrrry interesting...Johnny B. Goode said:
I saw that too. I may upgrade my spreadsheet to account for early vs non early declaresExtremely interesting.
I went to the link to try and figure-out/glean fantasy-relevant information and found something very-interesting.
They cross-tabulated information to include draft status/where players went off the board and it should not shock anyone that players picked higher fared better but this stat stands out.
Round 1 WR Draft Selections Over the Past 10 Years
.............................. WR# WR3 ++ WR2 +++ WR1
Total...................... 34 - 61.76% - 50.00% - 26.47%
Early Declare......... 25 - 68.00% - 64.00% - 40.00%
Non-Early Declare.... 9 - 44.44% - 11.11% -- 0.00%
Day 2 has net some quality upperclassmen. I think it's noteworthy info, but don't over react to it.I saw that too. I may upgrade my spreadsheet to account for early vs non early declares
I agree to not overreact, but I've always preferred underclassman to seniors. Not all, but in most cases, they are seniors for a reasonDay 2 has net some quality upperclassmen. I think it's noteworthy info, but don't over react to it.
Anecdotal example warning - I recall using this logic to slide Michael Thomas further than my eyes thought I should.I was a bit disappointed to see they didn't offer much in terms of distinguishing production because fantasy output is the key.
Using #1 WR status is good but I would like to see the names/production because a guy taken in the first round may be gifted/pushed into the #1 WR position due to need but what sort of production are we talking about?
I felt the takeaway is that WRs who don't come out early haven't gotten #1 WR status yet. That's a good bit of information to have in a rookie dynasty draft if you have a tie-breaker decision to make.
I wasn't aware of this information till today and even though I did not him #1 I had MT higher on my list than where he went in the NFL draft.Anecdotal example warning - I recall using this logic to slide Michael Thomas further than my eyes thought I should.
Whoops.
Thomas was an early declareAnecdotal example warning - I recall using this logic to slide Michael Thomas further than my eyes thought I should.
Whoops.
He only played 3 years at OSU - https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/michael-thomas-3.htmlHe was a 4 year guy.
And he red shirted a year.He only played 3 years at OSU - https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/michael-thomas-3.html
Doesn't matter, he "played" 3 years at OSU and when I think of seniors as it relates to the draft I think of players who played 4 years. That's not the case with Thomas.And he red shirted a year.
ThisDoesn't matter, he "played" 3 years at OSU and when I think of seniors as it relates to the draft I think of players who played 4 years. That's not the case with Thomas.
Three of the six are projected to go in the first five picks.
So the criteria you all are using is restricted to only 5th year seniors?Doesn't matter, he "played" 3 years at OSU and when I think of seniors as it relates to the draft I think of players who played 4 years. That's not the case with Thomas.
Put it in context of playing 4 years vs playing < 4 years. Besides, the NFL defines underclassman that way,.So the criteria you all are using is restricted to only 5th year seniors?
Just doesn't make any sense to me. In a vacuum a 4th year senior dominating is how different than a 4th year junior? They have both been in the program 4 years. I mean, i get it if the player came in under developed and redshirt freshman year for physical reasons. That should be considered. But that wasn't the case with Thomas who didn't redshirt as a freshman.Put it in context of playing 4 years vs playing < 4 years. Besides, the NFL defines underclassman that way,.
I suppose going back and forth on this is fruitless, so I'll stop after this post. What it comes down to is that Thomas left after his junior year and played 3 seasons and was an NFL draft underclassman.Just doesn't make any sense to me. In a vacuum a 4th year senior dominating is how different than a 4th year junior? They have both been in the program 4 years. I mean, i get it if the player came in under developed and redshirt freshman year for physical reasons. That should be considered. But that wasn't the case with Thomas who didn't redshirt as a freshman.
My opinion of 2020 draft TEs is who cares? I wouldn’t waste a rookie pick, except maybe a late 4th on a 2020 TE. Next year is the year of the TE.
I don't think it's fruitless. Context matters when applied to this class - or any class. Devaluing 1st round upperclassman receivers because prior 1st round upperclassman receivers didn't produce seems arbitrary, especially because day 2 upperclassman receivers have produced in the NFL. I only mentioned Thomas because he was the first that came to mind. Jordy Nelson, Anquan Boldin, Vincent Jackson, Greg Jennings, TY Hilton, etc.I suppose going back and forth on this is fruitless, so I'll stop after this post. What it comes down to is that Thomas left after his junior year and played 3 seasons and was an NFL draft underclassman.
Generally speaking I agree, but I am curious what comes of Claypool and Trautman. To a lesser degree Moss. Those 3 could develop into targets in a good situation. I can't imagine my mind will be swayed on any of the others though.My opinion of 2020 draft TEs is who cares? I wouldn’t waste a rookie pick, except maybe a late 4th on a 2020 TE. Next year is the year of the TE.
or true seniors yes. that is the definition of a non-early declarationSo the criteria you all are using is restricted to only 5th year seniors?
Does not ,after as this report is based on age and Thomas was at Ohio St for 4 years. He had a red shirt year and thus was older coming out ala the Seniors. So it does matter and skews these numbers.He only played 3 years at OSU - https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/michael-thomas-3.html
Kmet and Trautman in the 4th only for me. Claypool as a TE is interesting, but still only a 4th for me.Generally speaking I agree, but I am curious what comes of Claypool and Trautman. To a lesser degree Moss. Those 3 could develop into targets in a good situation. I can't imagine my mind will be swayed on any of the others though.
Where are people getting this from?Among the knocks on Taylor was the perception that he’s not great between the tackles and doesn’t really play up to his size.