[DYNASTY] Deep Deep Sleepers (1 Viewer)

[dirtyhalos]

ok, waivers are getting ready to close in my deep dynasty leagues, and sadly i'm out of the playoff hunt in more than one....

so lets talk deep deep sleepers that we can add now to get a jump on that offseason building towards 08......i'm looking for guys that should be available on almost all waiver wires.....some of the guys that are on several of my rosters include

gary russell, rb, pit

jackie battle, rb, kc

chris taylor, rb, hou

roy hall, wr, ind

paul williams, wr, ten

david ball, wr, nyj

delanie walker, te, sf

06/07 version

2005/06 version

2004/05 version

 

[-OZ-]

I like the Williams and Ball picks. I had drafted both, but traded Williams a month or so ago.

For now, I'll just add the players I have that haven't done much, that should be available in smaller leagues.

Sproles, Darren SDC RB

Mathis, Jerome HOU WR

Henry, Chris TEN RB

Naanee, Legedu SDC WR

Patrick, Ben ARI TE

 

[dirtyhalos]

I like the Williams and Ball picks. I had drafted both, but traded Williams a month or so ago.For now, I'll just add the players I have that haven't done much, that should be available in smaller leagues.Sproles, Darren SDC RBMathis, Jerome HOU WR Henry, Chris TEN RB Naanee, Legedu SDC WR Patrick, Ben ARI TE

added patrick yesterday and have had eye on naanee for a couple weeks now, hes getting some balls thrown his way, which is very nice

 

[redman]

I added Chris Taylor, Ahmad Bradshaw and Jason Snelling.

 

[loose circuits]

Alonzo Coleman RB Dallas

Danny Ware RB Jets

Clifton Dawson RB Colts

didn't see where these 3 have been mentioned.

I just had to drop Naane today to pick up De De Dorsey.

 

[loose circuits]

you can't even pick-up Jackie Battle on MFL. It's ridiculous

 

[redman]

The Redskins signed Anthony Mix last week, making him the only WR on the roster who is over 6' tall. The Giants, who they signed him away from, were apparently chagrined that the 'Skins got him.

 

[jevy]

Jason Hill, WR, SF.

 

[BLOX]

Not sure if this counts or not, but Domanick (Davis) Williams may get in a training camp next year if his rehab goes well. As a flier there is low risk and likely will not be any reward, but if he were to come back we all know what he can do.

I'm just not sure if he qualifies for this thread. I also don't have any updates either I've just kept him in the back of my mind.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

Laurent Robinson?

 

[benm3218]

Drew Carter

Bryant Johnson

I can't decide which one of those has more talent or upside though.

I would think Carter since his QB hasn't been as good?

Thoughts?

 

[Brewzers]

Players that I'm stashing, hoping for signs of life in 2008 are:

Troy Smith

Andrae Allison

Mike Walker

Brad Smith

Maurice Stovall

I thought about adding Chris Taylor, but decided Mike Walker instead.

 

[dirtyhalos]

Players that I'm stashing, hoping for signs of life in 2008 are:

Troy Smith

Andrae Allison

Mike Walker

Brad Smith

Maurice Stovall

I thought about adding Chris Taylor, but decided Mike Walker instead.

good decision, i think walker will end up being the more productive player

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Alonzo Coleman RB DallasDanny Ware RB JetsClifton Dawson RB Coltsdidn't see where these 3 have been mentioned.I just had to drop Naane today to pick up De De Dorsey.

I like Tyson Thompson better than Coleman if you are looking at deep Dallas backs. He's got blazing speed for a bigger back, and he's already had one productive game carrying the full load back in 05. He's also got the whole Irving hometown kid story going on. If Julius Jones leaves next year (and he should), Thompson might find himself with more work, depending on what Dallas does in FA/draft. We got to watch Coleman at the Shrine Game practices last year, and he was basically nondescript. A smallish back without exceptional shake and bake or straight line speed.Ware is a good call, he was impressive this preseason/camp, and there's always the memory of that amazing freshman year he had. Put him on GB, TB, KC or another team that has turned to a third stringer and I think he might have been just as successful.Dawson is a grinder, sort of like Earnest Graham, and a great special teams player, which should at least keep him on a roster, just like Graham. Solid call.You guys all know I like Dorsey - speaking of special teams, did anyone else catch Dorsey blocking a punt, recovering it, and taking it back for the TD a few weeks ago - he was a supreme kick blocker in college, and that skill alone should keep him on a roster - plus he has looked good on a few of the runs he has gotten. He got cut by Indy because he was hurt, and Keith was playing well, but my gut feeling is that he would be doing more with Keith's touches than Keith has been doing.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Is Lance Moore worth a roster spot? He is a FA in my 16 team dynasty and I dont know much about him.

 

[dirtyhalos]

Is Lance Moore worth a roster spot? He is a FA in my 16 team dynasty and I dont know much about him.

he's rostered in all 3 of mine, 16 teams, 53 man rosters with idps.......fwiwi think hes worth the spot, but i'm really expecting meachem to take that #2 spot next year which limits his value in my mind

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Jason Hill, WR, SF.

All of the WRs from the monumental third round run this year are worth carrying and all have been mentioned - Hill, Walker, Williams, Robinson, Jacoby Jones - I would put Jacoby and Robinson at the top of the list. Other overlooked later pick rookie WRs who just havent got their shot yet include Johnnie Lee Higgins, OAK (you guys know I like his skills), Allison (already mentioned), and Isaiah Stanback - don't overlook this amazing athlete. Crayton is an FA next year, which could open the door to more time for Stanback. I tend to give former QBs the benefit of the doubt because they seem more ready for the physical side of the position and they are always tough after the catch. One more name from the 07 WR class is Chansi Stuckey. He was tearing it up in preseason/camp before having to go on IR, and he should be a very solid slot receiver at worst if his development doesnt stall out - plus, Brad Smith seems to have leveled off - Im not impressed with what he has done with the the opportunity while Coles has been out, and we know McCareins is not long for that team.

 

[FavreCo]

Laurent Robinson?

And waiting on Brohm or Ryan.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Is Lance Moore worth a roster spot? He is a FA in my 16 team dynasty and I dont know much about him.

he's rostered in all 3 of mine, 16 teams, 53 man rosters with idps.......fwiwi think hes worth the spot, but i'm really expecting meachem to take that #2 spot next year which limits his value in my mind

My league is similar (43 man rosters, IDP) so I think I will nab him. Is he a guy that could thrive in the slot (Welker)?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Is Lance Moore worth a roster spot? He is a FA in my 16 team dynasty and I dont know much about him.

he's rostered in all 3 of mine, 16 teams, 53 man rosters with idps.......fwiwi think hes worth the spot, but i'm really expecting meachem to take that #2 spot next year which limits his value in my mind

My league is similar (43 man rosters, IDP) so I think I will nab him. Is he a guy that could thrive in the slot (Welker)?

Moore is nothing special. He doesn't have Welker's quicks or guile. He could get some numbers as a byproduct of being in an offense that often throws 40 times in a game, but I agree with B that Meachem should have dibs on that #2 job, and if he can't seize it, we're probably looking at a committee approach like we've seen this year, with no true #2 emerging.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Is Lance Moore worth a roster spot? He is a FA in my 16 team dynasty and I dont know much about him.

he's rostered in all 3 of mine, 16 teams, 53 man rosters with idps.......fwiwi think hes worth the spot, but i'm really expecting meachem to take that #2 spot next year which limits his value in my mind

My league is similar (43 man rosters, IDP) so I think I will nab him. Is he a guy that could thrive in the slot (Welker)?

Moore is nothing special. He doesn't have Welker's quicks or guile. He could get some numbers as a byproduct of being in an offense that often throws 40 times in a game, but I agree with B that Meachem should have dibs on that #2 job, and if he can't seize it, we're probably looking at a committee approach like we've seen this year, with no true #2 emerging.

Thanks for the quick reply!

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

ok, waivers are getting ready to close in my deep dynasty leagues, and sadly i'm out of the playoff hunt in more than one....so lets talk deep deep sleepers that we can add now to get a jump on that offseason building towards 08......i'm looking for guys that should be available on almost all waiver wires.....some of the guys that are on several of my rosters includegary russell, rb, pitjackie battle, rb, kcchris taylor, rb, houroy hall, wr, indpaul williams, wr, tendavid ball, wr, nyjdelanie walker, te, sf

It is definitely nice to see Russell on an NFL roster, but Davenport is signed for next year, so he'll probably remain a gameday inactive, but we all know his lengthy injury history.Battle is intriguing with his size/speed combo, but I walked away very unimpressed at the Shrine Game practices - he doesn't run behind his pads and is destined to be a FB/RB tweener.Taylor is a good call and has been discussed before - Houston's RB sitch is a mess, so I like the call. I can only wonder what he would have done if he had stayed healthy this year - he certainly would have gotten his shot.Hall has a nice size/speed/toughness combo, but with all the WR injuries in Indy, you have to wonder why he hasn't seen the field.Williams has been discussed before - he will definitely get his chance in Tenn and is worth rostering even in shallow dynasty leagues. #1 ability, but VERY inconsistent.Ball is a great story and Im rooting for him - he and Mike Hass are guys that I still believe in - just waiting for their shot. Hass is very tough and turns into an RB after the catch, and Ball has EXCEPTIONAL hands and ups.VERY disappointed in Walker after carrying him in a few leagues. He has never lived up to that preseason game he took over in 06. Lots of drops and awkward play. Almost ready to give up on him.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I like the Williams and Ball picks. I had drafted both, but traded Williams a month or so ago.For now, I'll just add the players I have that haven't done much, that should be available in smaller leagues.Sproles, Darren SDC RBMathis, Jerome HOU WR Henry, Chris TEN RB Naanee, Legedu SDC WR Patrick, Ben ARI TE

Sproles, maybe, if SD makes him the backup next year, but he really just gets devoured at his size. too small imo.Mathis can't stay healthy - blazing speed, but Im not sure if he's even the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The amount of interest in him/level of tender as an RFA should tell a lot.Henry should be rostered in every dynasty league. He should be given an honest shot to win that job next year.Naanee looks like a decent utility RB/HB/TE/WR type, but I don't see anything special.Weve written and talked a lot about Patrick this year. Loved seeing him catch that crucial fourth down TD last week in his first game as a pro. He definitely has the athleticism to be a good receiving threat from TE position, but Leonard Pope is also emerging.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Drew Carter Bryant JohnsonI can't decide which one of those has more talent or upside though.I would think Carter since his QB hasn't been as good? Thoughts?

They're both starting quality NFL athletes, and I expect both to get signed to at least compete for a starting job, if not be given one in free agency next year. Carter has more of the "oooh ahhh" talent with his ups and straight line speed, but Johnson has also shown a lot of what made him a first round pick. Johnson is more rugged, and probably better at the bread and butter stuff, but since Im a sucker for big play ability, I prefer Carter. Both are poised for bumps in value by opening day 08.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I added Chris Taylor, Ahmad Bradshaw and Jason Snelling.

Bradshaw has certainly looked natural running the stretch, and even if Jacobs gets that long term extension done, it looks like he's going to battle injuries for his whole career. Snelling is a real nice player - he's a good utility back a la Nick Goings - but I dont see starter upside.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

The Redskins signed Anthony Mix last week, making him the only WR on the roster who is over 6' tall. The Giants, who they signed him away from, were apparently chagrined that the 'Skins got him.

Definitely worth tracking, just like the guy who took his roster cut when he got cut from the Giants - Domenik Hixon.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Not sure if this counts or not, but Domanick (Davis) Williams may get in a training camp next year if his rehab goes well. As a flier there is low risk and likely will not be any reward, but if he were to come back we all know what he can do.I'm just not sure if he qualifies for this thread. I also don't have any updates either I've just kept him in the back of my mind.

Anytime a guy has produced like he has at this level, you have to pay attention if they get healthy enough to be rostered somewhere again.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Players that I'm stashing, hoping for signs of life in 2008 are:Troy SmithAndrae AllisonMike WalkerBrad SmithMaurice StovallI thought about adding Chris Taylor, but decided Mike Walker instead.

Stovall is a sick special teamer, but his speed/quicks dont seem to be translating that well as a WR.Smith should get a look next year, and should be rostered in most dynasty leagues.I still like Allison and was only impressed more by Dwayne Bowe at the Senior Bowl practices last year.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Hall has a nice size/speed/toughness combo, but with all the WR injuries in Indy, you have to wonder why he hasn't seen the field.

Roy Hall was IRd at the beginning of October

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Hall has a nice size/speed/toughness combo, but with all the WR injuries in Indy, you have to wonder why he hasn't seen the field.

Roy Hall was IRd at the beginning of October

d'oh - slipped my mind - thanks for the reminder.

 

[-OZ-]

I like the Williams and Ball picks. I had drafted both, but traded Williams a month or so ago.Naanee, Legedu SDC WR

Naanee looks like a decent utility RB/HB/TE/WR type, but I don't see anything special.

Oh, I don't see him as a dominant force, so if you're looking for home-runs, I agree. I do see him as able to produce around the WR30-40 level, and in some leagues, that is good. I'd say he's more likely to be somewhat productive than most anyone else mentioned here, but not as likely to produce huge stats. Besides, he's a WR in San Diego, how productive could he be?

 

[prymetyme25]

Not sure if this counts or not, but Domanick (Davis) Williams may get in a training camp next year if his rehab goes well. As a flier there is low risk and likely will not be any reward, but if he were to come back we all know what he can do.I'm just not sure if he qualifies for this thread. I also don't have any updates either I've just kept him in the back of my mind.

Anytime a guy has produced like he has at this level, you have to pay attention if they get healthy enough to be rostered somewhere again.

I said this like 2-3 years ago that DD/DW is done. unless they have come up with some new procedure that put cartilage back in your knee Domanick will never play another down of football again.

 

[GregR_2]

...Mathis, Jerome HOU WR ...

...Mathis can't stay healthy - blazing speed, but Im not sure if he's even the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The amount of interest in him/level of tender as an RFA should tell a lot....

Unless you get kick return yards, I wouldn't go with Mathis unless you truly have huge rosters and start a lot of WRs. My league starts 5 WRs and we have 55 player rosters including IDPs, and I don't think he's worth a spot there unless he moves over to another team in the off-season.Houston was hurting at WR going into this season, but Walter has emerged as a solid receiver, and Andre Davis has really turned into a deep threat that can make teams pay for doubling up on Andre. That's not even counting Jacoby Jones who I think is a far better WR than Mathis and will continue to improve.Mathis' value if he stays with the Texans is as a kick off returner only, IMHO.

 

[prymetyme25]

Couple of guys I picked up for next year:

Mark Bradley- I think Berrian leaves next year and well Moose is like 43 and Hester is not a real threat as a everydown WR. I think Bladley could turn into a great possesion guy with lots of YAC potential.

Ben Troupe- Dont really know what happened to this guy but I know he still has some talent and should get a shot with another team next. Maybe New Orleans, Mia, or Buf?

I've always been intrigued by Battle. Can he realistically play at this level?

 

[prymetyme25]

...Mathis, Jerome HOU WR ...

...Mathis can't stay healthy - blazing speed, but Im not sure if he's even the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The amount of interest in him/level of tender as an RFA should tell a lot....

Unless you get kick return yards, I wouldn't go with Mathis unless you truly have huge rosters and start a lot of WRs. My league starts 5 WRs and we have 55 player rosters including IDPs, and I don't think he's worth a spot there unless he moves over to another team in the off-season.Houston was hurting at WR going into this season, but Walter has emerged as a solid receiver, and Andre Davis has really turned into a deep threat that can make teams pay for doubling up on Andre. That's not even counting Jacoby Jones who I think is a far better WR than Mathis and will continue to improve.Mathis' value if he stays with the Texans is as a kick off returner only, IMHO.

This is true. I think the texans keep him as it is evident that he gives our special teams/KR a major boost. I dont think he'll ever be a wr unless there is an emergency situation. His injuries just wont allow him to develop that part of his game. Maybe later in his career he can hope for an Az-hakim type of ceiling as a wr.

 

[-OZ-]

...Mathis, Jerome HOU WR ...

...Mathis can't stay healthy - blazing speed, but Im not sure if he's even the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The amount of interest in him/level of tender as an RFA should tell a lot....

Unless you get kick return yards, I wouldn't go with Mathis unless you truly have huge rosters and start a lot of WRs. My league starts 5 WRs and we have 55 player rosters including IDPs, and I don't think he's worth a spot there unless he moves over to another team in the off-season.Houston was hurting at WR going into this season, but Walter has emerged as a solid receiver, and Andre Davis has really turned into a deep threat that can make teams pay for doubling up on Andre. That's not even counting Jacoby Jones who I think is a far better WR than Mathis and will continue to improve.Mathis' value if he stays with the Texans is as a kick off returner only, IMHO.

This is true. I think the texans keep him as it is evident that he gives our special teams/KR a major boost. I dont think he'll ever be a wr unless there is an emergency situation. His injuries just wont allow him to develop that part of his game. Maybe later in his career he can hope for an Az-hakim type of ceiling as a wr.

ok ok, I get it. Mathis sucks I picked him up without checking how bad his injury was, immediately threw him on IR. We have over 800 players rostered, and over 64 WRs usually start, so I figured he had some semblance of value.

 

[GregR_2]

...Mathis, Jerome HOU WR ...

...Mathis can't stay healthy - blazing speed, but Im not sure if he's even the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The amount of interest in him/level of tender as an RFA should tell a lot....

Unless you get kick return yards, I wouldn't go with Mathis unless you truly have huge rosters and start a lot of WRs. My league starts 5 WRs and we have 55 player rosters including IDPs, and I don't think he's worth a spot there unless he moves over to another team in the off-season.Houston was hurting at WR going into this season, but Walter has emerged as a solid receiver, and Andre Davis has really turned into a deep threat that can make teams pay for doubling up on Andre. That's not even counting Jacoby Jones who I think is a far better WR than Mathis and will continue to improve.Mathis' value if he stays with the Texans is as a kick off returner only, IMHO.

This is true. I think the texans keep him as it is evident that he gives our special teams/KR a major boost. I dont think he'll ever be a wr unless there is an emergency situation. His injuries just wont allow him to develop that part of his game. Maybe later in his career he can hope for an Az-hakim type of ceiling as a wr.

ok ok, I get it. Mathis sucks I picked him up without checking how bad his injury was, immediately threw him on IR. We have over 800 players rostered, and over 64 WRs usually start, so I figured he had some semblance of value.

Not trying to belittle anyone's suggestions, just offering up an opinion on him. Of course if he's the best candidate on waivers and you have a roster spot and need WR, then you go with him anyway. Which explains why I've had Troy Smith off and on my roster about 5 times already this year. Thankfully someone else finally picked him up so I can stop feeling the urge to pick him up again, heh.

 

[prymetyme25]

...Mathis, Jerome HOU WR ...

...Mathis can't stay healthy - blazing speed, but Im not sure if he's even the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The amount of interest in him/level of tender as an RFA should tell a lot....

Unless you get kick return yards, I wouldn't go with Mathis unless you truly have huge rosters and start a lot of WRs. My league starts 5 WRs and we have 55 player rosters including IDPs, and I don't think he's worth a spot there unless he moves over to another team in the off-season.Houston was hurting at WR going into this season, but Walter has emerged as a solid receiver, and Andre Davis has really turned into a deep threat that can make teams pay for doubling up on Andre. That's not even counting Jacoby Jones who I think is a far better WR than Mathis and will continue to improve.Mathis' value if he stays with the Texans is as a kick off returner only, IMHO.

This is true. I think the texans keep him as it is evident that he gives our special teams/KR a major boost. I dont think he'll ever be a wr unless there is an emergency situation. His injuries just wont allow him to develop that part of his game. Maybe later in his career he can hope for an Az-hakim type of ceiling as a wr.

ok ok, I get it. Mathis sucks I picked him up without checking how bad his injury was, immediately threw him on IR. We have over 800 players rostered, and over 64 WRs usually start, so I figured he had some semblance of value.

dont get me wrong I think he is the 3rd most valuable player on our roster and i hope one day he could turn into a playable wr but sadly I just dont see him even getting the opportunity to do so. But hey anythings possible Sammie Parker was a starting wr in this league.

 

[BoltBacker]

I like the Williams and Ball picks. I had drafted both, but traded Williams a month or so ago.Naanee, Legedu SDC WR

Naanee looks like a decent utility RB/HB/TE/WR type, but I don't see anything special.

Oh, I don't see him as a dominant force, so if you're looking for home-runs, I agree. I do see him as able to produce around the WR30-40 level, and in some leagues, that is good. I'd say he's more likely to be somewhat productive than most anyone else mentioned here, but not as likely to produce huge stats. Besides, he's a WR in San Diego, how productive could he be?

I have to agree with OZ on this one as a SD homer.Naane has gotten quite a few targets lately by Rivers(nearly as many as Vincent Jackson) and with Criag Davis's history of getting dinged up I think Naane will be given the opportunity to compete with Davis as WR#3. Davis is the better talent but as mentioned earlier has gotten dinged this year even in very limited play.Really, the reason I like Naane's future is his versatility. He might contribute at WR if he can stay on the field more than Davis. He might be competing with a mid-to-late-round rookie in the backfield as Tomlinsons backup if Turner leaves in the offseason as expected. He might even take over KR/PR duties if Sproles has difficulty making the roster as a very specialized player that can only contribute in one facet of the game.BTW I'd also like to second redman's suggestion of Bradshaw(NYG). With Ward likely leaving next season I think they'll need someone to step into his role in the offense. I realize a lot of people are heavily invested in Jacobs and are quick to defend him but I just can't see that guy as a three down back staying healthy for a full season. Worst case Bradshaw gets some of Jacobs carries, best case he gets a majority of carries if(when?) Jacobs is injured. Very low risk, high possible reward with Bradshaw imo.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

We have over 800 players rostered, and over 64 WRs usually start, so I figured he had some semblance of value.

Let me know if an opening ever comes up in this league, OZ.I am looking to join a dynasty league with extremely deep rosters..

 

[munchkin]

Steve Smith WR NYG---He supposedly looked good in pre-season but has been battling injuries all year.

 

[Rev. Jim]

Players that I'm stashing, hoping for signs of life in 2008 are:

Troy Smith

Andrae Allison

Mike Walker

Brad Smith

Maurice Stovall

I thought about adding Chris Taylor, but decided Mike Walker instead.

Stovall is a sick special teamer, but his speed/quicks dont seem to be translating that well as a WR.Smith should get a look next year, and should be rostered in most dynasty leagues.

I still like Allison and was only impressed more by Dwayne Bowe at the Senior Bowl practices last year.

Bloom, are you referring to Troy or Brad here? Just curious.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Players that I'm stashing, hoping for signs of life in 2008 are:

Troy Smith

Andrae Allison

Mike Walker

Brad Smith

Maurice Stovall

I thought about adding Chris Taylor, but decided Mike Walker instead.

Stovall is a sick special teamer, but his speed/quicks dont seem to be translating that well as a WR.Smith should get a look next year, and should be rostered in most dynasty leagues.

I still like Allison and was only impressed more by Dwayne Bowe at the Senior Bowl practices last year.

sorry - Troy. Brad has been disappointing, I expected more from him while Coles was out. He hasnt looked natural going up for or catching the ball.Bloom, are you referring to Troy or Brad here? Just curious.

 

[Fallerjw]

Is it possible the Mike Williams can be productive next season? I know he's already had 2 chances, but it seems like the talent is / was there.

Ben Troupe

Roy Hall

Jerome Harrison

 

[Rev. Jim]

Is it possible the Mike Williams can be productive next season? I know he's already had 2 chances, but it seems like the talent is / was there.

Ben Troupe

Roy Hall

Jerome Harrison

As Joe alluded to in his Random Shots email today, Williams showed up last week in Tennessee weighing 271 pounds (per Chris Mortensen). The guy can have all the talent in the world, but until he learns discipline and develops a strong desire to do what it takes to succeed at the NFL level, he'll be nothing but a bust.

 

[Fallerjw]

Is it possible the Mike Williams can be productive next season? I know he's already had 2 chances, but it seems like the talent is / was there.

Ben Troupe

Roy Hall

Jerome Harrison

As Joe alluded to in his Random Shots email today, Williams showed up last week in Tennessee weighing 271 pounds (per Chris Mortensen). The guy can have all the talent in the world, but until he learns discipline and develops a strong desire to do what it takes to succeed at the NFL level, he'll be nothing but a bust.

Sounds like he's trying to become a TE....that doesn't block or run.

 

[redman]

Is it possible the Mike Williams can be productive next season? I know he's already had 2 chances, but it seems like the talent is / was there.

Ben Troupe

Roy Hall

Jerome Harrison

As Joe alluded to in his Random Shots email today, Williams showed up last week in Tennessee weighing 271 pounds (per Chris Mortensen). The guy can have all the talent in the world, but until he learns discipline and develops a strong desire to do what it takes to succeed at the NFL level, he'll be nothing but a bust.

Sounds like he's trying to become a TE....that doesn't block or run.

If he weighs 271, there's nothing on him that's tight except his belt.

 

[Marino13]

Laurent Robinson?

Guy is going to be good..... need a better QB than Harrington though.... and Leftwich is hardly an upgrade.

 

[Brewzers]

Players that I'm stashing, hoping for signs of life in 2008 are:

Troy Smith

Andrae Allison

Mike Walker

Brad Smith

Maurice Stovall

I thought about adding Chris Taylor, but decided Mike Walker instead.

Stovall is a sick special teamer, but his speed/quicks dont seem to be translating that well as a WR.Smith should get a look next year, and should be rostered in most dynasty leagues.

I still like Allison and was only impressed more by Dwayne Bowe at the Senior Bowl practices last year.

Does anyone know why this is? Bad route running, bad hands? I really expected him to breakout this year and he's barely seen the field.

 

[Marino13]

I like the Williams and Ball picks. I had drafted both, but traded Williams a month or so ago.For now, I'll just add the players I have that haven't done much, that should be available in smaller leagues.Sproles, Darren SDC RBMathis, Jerome HOU WR Henry, Chris TEN RB Naanee, Legedu SDC WR Patrick, Ben ARI TE

Sproles, maybe, if SD makes him the backup next year, but he really just gets devoured at his size. too small imo.Mathis can't stay healthy - blazing speed, but Im not sure if he's even the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The amount of interest in him/level of tender as an RFA should tell a lot.Henry should be rostered in every dynasty league. He should be given an honest shot to win that job next year.Naanee looks like a decent utility RB/HB/TE/WR type, but I don't see anything special.Weve written and talked a lot about Patrick this year. Loved seeing him catch that crucial fourth down TD last week in his first game as a pro. He definitely has the athleticism to be a good receiving threat from TE position, but Leonard Pope is also emerging.

Don't write Sproles off... yeah, he's small, but you gotta love his moves. I would like to see him get some real carries to see how he would do... get him in some space and watch out...