Dynasty Face off #1 (1 Viewer)

[NorrisB]

I personally prefer Demetrius, he's got great deep ball tracking skills with deceptive speed reminds me of a Greg Jennings/Chad Johnson type.

 

[GloryDaze]

I'll just keep an extra roster spot open for waiver wire moves.

 

[Gamma1210]

Honestly I haven't seen much of Robinson but some very smart people here like him. I think Williams has the ability to be a star in the league with his size/speed, but I think he needs a QB to get him the ball down the field. With a real QB, the combo of Clayton and Williams could be solid for FF for several years.

 

[Sopranos]

Seems to be a push IMO.

 

[Gamma1210]

Seems to be a push IMO.

Votes don't agree. I know Bloom and others are fans of Robinson, and I would like to hear more about him. How are his hands? Good route runner? Can he thrive as a #2 WR even with the question marks at QB for the Falcons?

 

[dmac37]

What little I have seen of D. Williams, he has great hands and looks to be a solid receiver. As for Robinson he seems to be physically gifted and athletic going by his combine numbers last year.

So my thought is Williams may be safer pick but Robinson is more of a boom or bust.

 

[FUBAR]

My brain says Williams, my gut says Robinson.

My head is more often correct.

 

[Gamma1210]

As an aside, I really like these faceoffs. If you run out of ideas for them let me know because I'm sure I can find a few.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I like Dem's skills, but I think LRob's upside is higher. Demetrius has been a one-trick pony ("go deep") for the most part - and that's SEVERELY limited with McNair under center. Kyle Boller can chuck it - but do we really want to see that?

Neither one actually has good QBs. (Oddly enough, Chris Redman was also once a Raven - aren't too many ex-Raven QBs floating around in the NFL - at least that get to play). Also Mason (older) and Mark Clayton (younger) impede Demetrius' upside. Assuming the Ravens get a QB, Demetrius will be the "Berrian" to Clayton's "Mushin". That's the upside (the deep threat). Think Burress/Toomer, Holmes/Ward - teams like one deep threat and one possession guy.

LRobinson can be both - and that's how you become elite. Plus the rest of the team is underwhelming, even with Roddy White's emergence (which I still don't quite get, but I'm starting to hear enough to reevaluate him).

Plus - Atlanta stinks. That means they will throw. Maybe not forever, but for 1-2 years certainly. Baltimore's defense is (allegedly) good, and certainly > Atlanta. That limits the passing attack.

I'd lean LRob but it is closer than you'd think. LRob's upside is a WR1, and Dem's is WR2. Downside for both is bottomless.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

As an aside, I really like these faceoffs. If you run out of ideas for them let me know because I'm sure I can find a few.

Looks like something to add to a "2008 Dynasty Thread", whenever I'm around to that.....

 

[Tiki_Barber Fan]

We saw nothing from Williams in 2007 (because McNair was awful. Boller was better, but that's not saying much. At least he can throw the ball over 20 yards.

I really like White in Atlanta. Robinson had a nice 70-some odd yard TD catch vs. Arizona (where Artell Rolle got caught guessing on a route).

The answer is probably the team that can find a long-term QB first as far as seeing which one will be more productive. (I see White/Clayton the 1's in Atl/Balt so developing QB's is imperative for the #2 WR's to get their consistent numbers).

 

[cstu]

We saw nothing from Williams in 2007 (because McNair was awful. Boller was better, but that's not saying much. At least he can throw the ball over 20 yards. I really like White in Atlanta. Robinson had a nice 70-some odd yard TD catch vs. Arizona (where Artell Rolle got caught guessing on a route). The answer is probably the team that can find a long-term QB first as far as seeing which one will be more productive. (I see White/Clayton the 1's in Atl/Balt so developing QB's is imperative for the #2 WR's to get their consistent numbers).

White is the key problem for Robinson IMO. The Falcons QB situation isn't good but White has shown that he can be a true #1 WR and is just coming into his own. Things could change with a new QB but I just think White is a better WR and there won't be enough for Robinson.Demetrius isn't in a much better situation but he has #1 WR talent and while Clayton is a good WR I don't think he's good enough to keep the ball out of Demetrius' hands.

 

[dmac37]

I like Dem's skills, but I think LRob's upside is higher. Demetrius has been a one-trick pony ("go deep") for the most part - and that's SEVERELY limited with McNair under center. Kyle Boller can chuck it - but do we really want to see that?

Neither one actually has good QBs. (Oddly enough, Chris Redman was also once a Raven - aren't too many ex-Raven QBs floating around in the NFL - at least that get to play). Also Mason (older) and Mark Clayton (younger) impede Demetrius' upside. Assuming the Ravens get a QB, Demetrius will be the "Berrian" to Clayton's "Mushin". That's the upside (the deep threat). Think Burress/Toomer, Holmes/Ward - teams like one deep threat and one possession guy.

LRobinson can be both - and that's how you become elite. Plus the rest of the team is underwhelming, even with Roddy White's emergence (which I still don't quite get, but I'm starting to hear enough to reevaluate him).

Plus - Atlanta stinks. That means they will throw. Maybe not forever, but for 1-2 years certainly. Baltimore's defense is (allegedly) good, and certainly > Atlanta. That limits the passing attack.

I'd lean LRob but it is closer than you'd think. LRob's upside is a WR1, and Dem's is WR2. Downside for both is bottomless.

Jeff, wondering why you say Williams is a one trick pony going deep. A few games I saw Williams this season I was impressed on how he used his hands and caught the ball in tough spots. Scout.com Player Evaluation:

STRENGTHS

Elusiveness with Catch

Hands and Concentration

Toughness

AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT

Blocking Ability

Downfield Threat

Solid receiver with a well-rouned game who probably tops out as a #2 WR in the pros. Very resilient in his routes, gets himself into the proper position and can get seperation. Not really a deep threat and needs to improve his blocking.

 

[Max Power]

I like Robinson more, but he seems to be going at least 5-8 rounds earlier than Williams in startup drafts. I'm more likely to Target Williams at this rate.

Good news is that both guys got a "new" QB in the draft. From what I hear, Flacco can really sling it. Might be another little bump for Williams.

 

[SSOG]

...deceptive speed...

I never knew Demetrius was white...