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Dynasty IDP Rankings (1 Viewer)

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I realize that they take time to do, and this effort is much-appreciated, but the IDP rankings haven't been updated recently as witnessed by the 14 day default window (wasn't this default increased) yielding nothing for over a week now.

We've seen a number of IDPs already trending up/down in the Forum.

When can we expect updates from the crew?

 
I never update mine during the first 4 weeks because I want to see a reasonable sample size of games played before making any decisions. Normally, I will post my first in-season dynasty rankings sometime between the end of week 4 games and before the week 6 games.

 
Longshot88 said:
how long are we going to let this go??? Not one staff member can take the time to do this?
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I can't speak for the others, but unfortunately, a full set of dynasty rankings is well down my list of FBG priorities in any week and I just never seem to get to it. I'm not interested in doing it halfway, so it's hard to find the block of time to get it done and I'd prefer not to promise something I know I'll have trouble finishing.
 
Well, the FBG dynasty rankings are advertised as "Always current", yet users can't really even access the last rankings easily.

It's a matter of where FBG want to focus limited time to run your business and satisfy user needs.

I'm sure that, if you profile your subscription base, a significant % play in dynasty formats.

Just a guess, but I'd think that posting rankings regularly would lessen the amount of forum questions on relative value of players in dynasty formats you'd have to deal with.

This would be quite a valuable FBG offering, ...the #1 need in my book.

 
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BearsFan said:
Well, the FBG dynasty rankings are advertised as "Always current", yet users can't really even access the last rankings easily.It's a matter of where FBG want to focus limited time to run your business and satisfy user needs.I'm sure that, if you profile your subscription base, a significant % play in dynasty formats.Just a guess, but I'd think that posting rankings regularly would lessen the amount of forum questions on relative value of players in dynasty formats you'd have to deal with.This would be quite a valuable FBG offering, ...the #1 need in my book.
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What he said!!!and redraft are not done either!! It would be different if this was a free site.Has anybody ever used Fantasy Guru? they claim to keep there IDP stuff up todate...I Have been a Football Guy from the Begining. but this is getting to very frustrating. might be time for a change.... Joe, David are you there?
 
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Guys, relax! I know that we pay for this site, but is it really that important to have dynasty rankings in the first weeks of the season? And seriously: Why do you need redraft rankings now? We have weekly rankings, which is much more important at this point in my opinion.

And it's not like we're paying hundreds of Euro or Dollar for this site...

 
While I can understand some frustration, the fact is right now, our weekly articles are our priority. After that, everything is based on the time we can commit to anything else, such as dynasty rankings. Almost everyone on staff is a part time staffer, with other full time obligations and there are only so many hours in a day to do FBG related work. My articles are time consuming and I have a tough time getting them finished, let alone anything else. I'm not making excuses, but time is a major factor with me right now. I am a full time college student, work 2 other part time jobs, plus my FBG obligations, plus I am a single parent and have to run the house by myself. Anytime I have a major project or heavy load of work from college, everything else takes a back seat. Right now, that is what is happening. I am overloaded with work from my classes right now and it is virtually impossible to find a large block of time to do dynasty rankings.

I will never do any dynasty rankings before the end of week 4 because I do not want to be overly influenced by one really good game or really bad game. I usually try to have a set up by week 6, but there was no way I could have had them done this year because of my college workload. I am hoping (but not promising) to do them next weekend. Finding the time is a real problem. My priority at FBG is to do my two articles every week.

 
Anthony Borbely said:
While I can understand some frustration, the fact is right now, our weekly articles are our priority. After that, everything is based on the time we can commit to anything else, such as dynasty rankings. Almost everyone on staff is a part time staffer, with other full time obligations and there are only so many hours in a day to do FBG related work. My articles are time consuming and I have a tough time getting them finished, let alone anything else. I'm not making excuses, but time is a major factor with me right now. I am a full time college student, work 2 other part time jobs, plus my FBG obligations, plus I am a single parent and have to run the house by myself. Anytime I have a major project or heavy load of work from college, everything else takes a back seat. Right now, that is what is happening. I am overloaded with work from my classes right now and it is virtually impossible to find a large block of time to do dynasty rankings. I will never do any dynasty rankings before the end of week 4 because I do not want to be overly influenced by one really good game or really bad game. I usually try to have a set up by week 6, but there was no way I could have had them done this year because of my college workload. I am hoping (but not promising) to do them next weekend. Finding the time is a real problem. My priority at FBG is to do my two articles every week.
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Excuses Excuses :lmao:
 
I'm not going to be critical of one particular FBG, I just think FBG's should make it a goal to increase the scope of the IDP coverage to include some kind of in-season updates in a ranking form. IDP's can be as fluid as offensive players, and while the articles you guys crank out are great info for the players they cover, I feel somewhat blind when it comes to trying to trade/trade for/etc. IDP's into the season. Also, IDP changes can be a lot more subtle than offensive changes - I don't need a list to know that Ray Rice is emerging as a stud and Terrell Owens is on the back nine. With IDP's, it's not so obvious.

Just a thought. The IDP coverage, especially including the podcast, is unrivaled IMO, it's just a lot to digest sometimes and some kind of summary/list would be helpful.

 
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To be clear, we (FBG) don't disagree that dynasty rankings are important. They are, in fact, a priority for a few of us. In the past, many of us have provided them at varying points during the season. At least four of us have the best of intentions with these. Almost all of the articles (Borbely, Magaw, my own and the Upgrades and Prospecting series) have at least a partial dynasty focus.

Please don't take the discussion from the staffers in this thread as excuses. A number of us have been drafted to help out with content on the offensive side this year. Every primary IDP staffer has had issues outside FBG take priority at times this season. We're certainly not asking for leniency as we fully realize we're not alone in that and we understand what the subscription cost means for many of you. We point it out only to stress that we're not intentionally ignoring the repeated requests for these rankings and we appreciate the need for them. Rather, we want this community to push us to improve and let us know when we're not meeting its needs.

For my part, I'll suspend the usual headliners in my weekly column to concentrate on dynasty rankings this week. We'll also devote a portion of our weekly podcast this week to dynasty questions. During the offseason, we'll again discuss how to add to the dynasty coverage we're already providing.

 
In fairness to the FBG staff (especially Jene and other active IDP experts on this board) anytime there is a specific dynasty question brought up or comparison required they are quick to respond with their opinions. I am sure they will get to it in due time but for now enjoy all the other additional IDP content which continues to increase each year.

 
Not here to gripe but wanted to address the comment about it only being a few weeks into the season: Fact is it's week 6 and for some our season is just about 1/2 over..Not to mention most trade deadlines are week 9 so Id say this kind of info would be great to have at our disposal by week 4-5 at latest. I love the extent of the content avail overall on the site but if I had to rank the importance of the material Id put rankings in the top 10 maybe top 5(podcats #1 for certain!). Just saying IDP has become a very popular league type and I agree that I would like to see rankings a priority especially by now as some teams may already be looking to build for next year or vice versa..I know the forums provide an outlet but there are far too many average fantasy owners throwing out random opinions that tend to muddy the waters. Id bet there are many inexperienced/newer members that have made bad decisions based on following some of this info. :thumbup:

 
The dynasty rankings in particular are more important to me than the weekly rankings. I can see the projections when they come out, and make a choice if it is close.

But, as I am looking to trade, I want to know what the experts think in terms of long term value of various players - particularly guys who would be flying under the radar. I read the weekly Buy Low/Sell High, and the Prospecting report - I just would value more opinions. Sometimes those look like more of a snap-shot rather than a long-term approach.

I realize time is valuable - perhaps as you budget for next year's content you keep this in mind. Trying to identify the next good FA pick-up, or back-up who is about to move into a starting role, or dumping a vet who is on his last legs - goes a long way in dynasty leagues.

 
I've been dyin to find some dynasty rankings. When you're in leagues that limit the number of free agent acquisitions, the weekly rankings aren't nearly as important as dynasty rankings. We don't want to add or trade for someone who is ranked high on a particular week due to an injury. Rather, we'd like to know who is movin' up or down in your minds as far as a long-term aspect. I still appreciate all the content on here and I personally love this site, but if there were updated dynasty rankings I think this site could reach another level.

 
I'll make sure to make these a priority, expect an update tomorrow or Thursday at the latest - sorry for the lapse!

 
Probably not going to get to the DBs this week. Focused on the LB and DL for now and there's an argument that there's no such thing as a dynasty DB ranking anyway. :confused: For me, the DBs come down to finding strong current studs and hoping that you'll have more stable Roman Harpers than transient Gibril Wilsons and Sean Joneses, then keeping an eye out for the late season Tyvon Branches and upcoming values like Patrick Chung and Kevin Ellison, etc.

I'll try to get to the DBs next week.

 
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Probably not going to get to the DBs this week. Focused on the LB and DL for now and there's an argument that there's no such thing as a dynasty DB ranking anyway. :thumbdown: For me, the DBs come down to finding strong current studs and hoping that you'll have more stable Roman Harpers than transient Gibril Wilsons and Sean Joneses, then keeping an eye out for the late season Tyvon Branches and upcoming values like Patrick Chung and Kevin Ellison, etc.I'll try to get to the DBs next week.
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:pics: I updated my DB rankings... I dont want to say they're arbitrary, but there are definitely ways reasonable people could have players 30 slots apart and not feel too differently about them. Agree with Jene about catching a wave being the best strategy - the Buffalo SS has pretty much been the #1 IDP this year when you combine Scott/Wilson - that's the kind of year it has been.
 
I'm relatively new to this site and am still learning where to find things... where do I see those rankings?? I thought I went to the right place but when I asked for Dynasty IDP rankings over the past 14 days, it said there were none. I dunno....

 
Thanks for the updates guys.

Maybe a future podcast discussion could involve talking about the differences in the rankings.

 
Jene & Sig.....

DE William Hayes, TEN

Jene ranked 16 and Sig ranked 42

To be honest, it surprised the heck out of me to see him ranked so high Jene.

Please elaborate....

 
ADP said:
Jene & Sig.....

DE William Hayes, TEN

Jene ranked 16 and Sig ranked 42

To be honest, it surprised the heck out of me to see him ranked so high Jene.

Please elaborate....
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Still a work in progress. I'll need to go back and look at these from a big picture standpoint. Generally speaking, I like Hayes' two way potential and I think he gets more snaps as the season moves along and in 2010. I think he's a 40-8 kind of guy. 16 sounds a little high, but I think he's in the possible DL2 group next year.
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Consider me blind, but I'll be damned if I can find this.

A little help please.
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Here's the forecast tab, accessible from any non-forum page at the top menu bar. Scroll down to the dynasty rankings. I think we've hit them by positions (no DBs yet for me) so there won't be anything under the overall link.
 
ADP said:
Jene & Sig.....DE William Hayes, TENJene ranked 16 and Sig ranked 42To be honest, it surprised the heck out of me to see him ranked so high Jene.Please elaborate....
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I have Hayes at the top of a group of developmental guys like Cjohnson, MJohnson, sidbury - if he continues to get more snaps and production, he'll continue to ascend my rankings.
 
surprised how low kirk morrison is. guy is a tackling machine.

also surprised at how high demeco ryans is. he had a great rookie year but i think he has regressed since. he's downright average this year.

 
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