Dynasty Market - Elite WRs (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Pasquino]

You know the names - Fitz, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne - feel free to include other "elites" - what's the going rate that you are seeing these days?

Feel free to mention the details or even a link to the league, but the only part that I ask is that they be Keeper / Dynasty leagues and that they are REAL transactions. Scoring style (PPR/non-PPR), league size (10, 12, 14, 16 teams) and any other quirks might be good inclusions as well.

 

[Deuceman]

Team A gave up

Forte, Matt CHI RB

Hillis, Peyton DEN RB

Hixon, Domenik NYG WR

2010 Round 4 Draft Pick

2010 Round 4 Draft Pick

2010 Round 5 Draft Pick

2010 Round 5 Draft Pick

Team B gave up

Forsett, Justin SEA RB

Jackson, Vincent SDC WR

Schilens, Chaz OAK WR

V Jax is elite to some, Forte is..............Forte

 

[djmich]

I'll take Team B's side on that one.

 

[LOCO]

good question:

anyone sold Moss? now might be the time to sell. trying to gauge some trade value.

 

[NeverEnough]

Anyone moving Marshall, Calvin Johnson or Roddy?

 

[Max Power]

I put an offer out there that the other owner is heavily considering.

D.Bowe, McFadden, and the 1.04 (12 team) for Calvin

ETA: I would include a 2nd round pick next year or someone like Laurant Robinson / Earl Bennett if needed to seal the deal.

 

[grantsa4]

Is Austin elite, or not yet?

 

[•TheRealMcCoy]

Team A Gave Up:

Andre Johnson

Pierre Thomas

2.05

4.05

5.05

Team B Gave Up:

R. Mendanhall

Miles Austin

1.11

5.11

5th(unsure the #)

12 Team / PPR / Start: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1Flex, K, Def

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Zealots league had this one go down yesterday, though I have a feeling it won't help much here since it's all WRs:

AJ/Wayne for Fitz/VJax/4th round rookie pick

 

[Tanner9919]

Is Austin elite, or not yet?

if he is, then so is Steve Smith, NYG.

 

[Maggot Brain]

Standard ppr league

Team A gave up: VJax and Josh Freeman

Team B Gave up: MSW, Darren MacFadden, and Matthew Stafford

 

[hooptd]

good question:anyone sold Moss? now might be the time to sell. trying to gauge some trade value.

I traded him for 1.05 2010 rookie pick, 12 team ppr league. I have a lot of depth on that team at WR and feel I can get a real good player at #5. I'm of the school who thinks it's better to trade a player a year too early rather than a year too late.

 

[future_itisnow]

good question:anyone sold Moss? now might be the time to sell. trying to gauge some trade value.

Just sold off Moss in a PPR league.Moss/Schobelfor1.02/Choice/Jacoby Jones/Durant

 

[Q-Bert]

Wow.

If I was the owner of the "elite" WR in any of the trades mentioned so far there is no way I would have made a single one of those deals. I own AJ and Calvin and had an owner offer me Shonn Greene and 2010 Pick 6 for either one of them and told him he wasn't even in the ballpark.

I am thinking of trying to acquire Roddy White and plan to offer Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams for White and a 2011 1st. I think that would be a fair deal for the other owner because his RBs are terrible. However, I think from a pure value standpoint I would be destroying him.

If I acquire White I would consider moving him to the Greene owner if he was willing to include his 2010 Pick 6 and 2011 1st. But I am not sold on this potential move. I would be short on RBs but really don't want to give up an elite WR for what may end up being spare parts/"potential" guys.

My league is fairly typical with the exception that we reward all yards and passing TDs a little less than other leagues. This tends to devalue QBs and RB/WRs who aren't big TD producers.

Start 1/2/3/1/1/1

12 teams

Salary cap/contract league

 

[Q-Bert]

good question:anyone sold Moss? now might be the time to sell. trying to gauge some trade value.

Just sold off Moss in a PPR league.Moss/Schobelfor1.02/Choice/Jacoby Jones/Durant

Fairest trade so far but still would only make it if you really loved two of this year's rookies and/or Choice

 

[Rodeojones]

Is Austin elite, or not yet?

I think so and in a 12 team PPR league, I gave up the 1.1 and Mike Wallace for Austin.I am the two time SB runner up and trying to get my team over the top.

 

[finito]

I am thinking of trying to acquire Roddy White and plan to offer Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams for White and a 2011 1st. I think that would be a fair deal for the other owner because his RBs are terrible. However, I think from a pure value standpoint I would be destroying him.

That's a rape job. Come on.

 

[finito]

Was offered:

Calvin Johnson

for

Reggie Wayne, '10 1.01

I declined. Would rather have Wayne/Bryant.

 

[nlgb1]

good question:anyone sold Moss? now might be the time to sell. trying to gauge some trade value.

in .5 ppr dynasty i traded moss leon washington and ricky williams for shonn greene and dwayne bowe. really only did the deal for greene, gonna swap bowe.i dont think this is an accurate display of moss' value tho, i think i got a steal here

 

[future_itisnow]

good question:anyone sold Moss? now might be the time to sell. trying to gauge some trade value.

Just sold off Moss in a PPR league.Moss/Schobelfor1.02/Choice/Jacoby Jones/Durant

Fairest trade so far but still would only make it if you really loved two of this year's rookies and/or Choice

Yeah sorry should have equated this a little bit.- Aging dynasty team with little chance to compete next season (old players at most key positions and little else)- Team has Barber on the roster- Needs a young RB to blend with the older starters- Needs some yet to flourish talent (Jones/Choice) to go with the aging vetsEssentially this team was going nowhere fast and need an infusion of youth and upside. For these reasons I think this was a very fair trade.

 

[purplehaze67]

Zealots league, I was offered and declined:

Get: Jerome Harrison, Colston

Give: Calvin

 

[travdogg]

Is Austin elite, or not yet?

if he is, then so is Steve Smith, NYG.

Um why? Smith doesn't constantly get deep or break tackles, Austin does and has a better QB to boot.

 

[LBH]

gave M.Sims-Walker/V.Davis/C.Schillens got Roddy White/G.Olsen

PPR dynasty

 

[datonn]

Not sure I would consider M. Colston as an "elite" WR, but in a 16-team dynasty league (PPR, TE and LB have extra advantage in scoring), he's a strong WR1. At any rate, just made this deal tonight:

Gave:

RB Charles

WR Maclin

TE J. Carlson

Get:

RB McCoy

WR Colston

TE V. Shiancoe

The deal was mostly about McCoy to me, as well as getting a WR1 (for a WR2, IMHO) that I desperately needed. I thought I might have to give up a bit more than that to pry McCoy and Colston away...but am very happy with that deal.

 

[Trent]

In a keep 12 league I had too many keeper worthy players.

I give Ronnie Brown, Donald Driver and a 6th rounder.

I get Greg Jennings and a 3rd rounder.

 

[ninerfan]

In late July in one of my 12 team dynasty leagues I traded Andre Johnson for Marques Colston, Josh Morgan and a 2010 1st rounder (turned out to be the 1.09 pick). In late October I then traded Colston (and Jarrett Dillard) for Felix Jones and Percy Harvin. I'm happy.

 

[RazorbackPete]

Re: Roddy White - in my 12 team, non-PPR, dynasty (1QB/2RB/3WR/TE/K/DST), somewhere around week 4-5 Roddy White was traded for 2010 1st and 2nd round picks, Kenny Britt, and Tashard Choice

Re: Randy Moss - someone offered me R. Moss, Brandon Jacobs, and Felix Jones for Matt Forte, 1.07 and 1.10... his logic was that Moss was worth 1.07 and 1.10. I declined the offer, mostly due to Brandon Jacobs (and my team is rebuilding).

 

[editor47]

I am thinking of trying to acquire Roddy White and plan to offer Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams for White and a 2011 1st. I think that would be a fair deal for the other owner because his RBs are terrible. However, I think from a pure value standpoint I would be destroying him.

That's a rape job. Come on.

yeah, this guy said he didn't like some of the other deals that were made, but then throws out this offer? he's the typical 'my way or the highway' trade partner. might get some done, but probably never gets return deals made.

 

[editor47]

Not sure I would consider M. Colston as an "elite" WR, but in a 16-team dynasty league (PPR, TE and LB have extra advantage in scoring), he's a strong WR1. At any rate, just made this deal tonight:Gave:RB CharlesWR MaclinTE J. CarlsonGet:RB McCoyWR ColstonTE V. ShiancoeThe deal was mostly about McCoy to me, as well as getting a WR1 (for a WR2, IMHO) that I desperately needed. I thought I might have to give up a bit more than that to pry McCoy and Colston away...but am very happy with that deal.

Charles > McCoyColston >>> MaclinShiancoe >>> Carlsonvery nice deal

 

[moderated]

Was offered:Calvin JohnsonforReggie Wayne, '10 1.01I declined. Would rather have Wayne/Bryant.

horrid, cj is > then wayne/1.1, CJ is a once in a lifetime WR.

 

[FUBAR]

Not sure I would consider M. Colston as an "elite" WR, but in a 16-team dynasty league (PPR, TE and LB have extra advantage in scoring), he's a strong WR1. At any rate, just made this deal tonight:

Gave:

RB Charles

WR Maclin

TE J. Carlson

Get:

RB McCoy

WR Colston

TE V. Shiancoe

The deal was mostly about McCoy to me, as well as getting a WR1 (for a WR2, IMHO) that I desperately needed. I thought I might have to give up a bit more than that to pry McCoy and Colston away...but am very happy with that deal.

Charles > McCoyColston >>> Maclin

Shiancoe >>> Carlson

very nice deal

You do realize that of the last 8 weeks they both played, Maclin outscored Colston 5 times, they tied once (week 13) and Colston beat Mac 2x. It took the rookie WR 3 weeks before he got into the groove, after week 4 Colston only scored 2 more points per game than Maclin. Not saying Maclin's better, but it's closer than ">>>", it's probably less of a difference than Charles to McCoy.

 

[az_prof]

Is Austin elite, or not yet?

if he is, then so is Steve Smith, NYG.

Both guys have had great seasons but call me a curmudgeon if you want--but a guy is not "elite" until he has at least TWO consecutive years of top ten production. Elite means that I KNOW he will produce at the top ten for his position no matter what (short of injury).

 

[perry147]

Is Austin elite, or not yet?

if he is, then so is Steve Smith, NYG.

Both guys have had great seasons but call me a curmudgeon if you want--but a guy is not "elite" until he has at least TWO consecutive years of top ten production. Elite means that I KNOW he will produce at the top ten for his position no matter what (short of injury).

Austin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Smith.

 

[DenverBroncos]

I've seen this trade go down:

Andre Caldwell

Bernard Scott

2010 Rookie Pick 1.4 and 1.5

for

Calvin Johnson

 

[3nOut]

Was offered:Calvin JohnsonforReggie Wayne, '10 1.01I declined. Would rather have Wayne/Bryant.

horrid, cj is > then wayne/1.1, CJ is a once in a lifetime WR.

I agree that this traqde is horrid, but in the other direction. With the stats the way they are, you can argue that the offer should be CJ and a pick (not necessarily a first rounder) for Wayne. If anything, it should be an even swap. physically, CJ is a once ina lifetime WR, but so far in FF Wayne has outplayed him. I know it all depends on the scoring system but in my league this is how they scored the last three years:

Wayne:	116.0	87.0	124.0	= 327Calvin:	75	132.0	62.0	= 269

CJ is younger and has more physical talent and is the number one target but his situation is much less desireable as he faces double coverage and his QB is still young. Wayne plays in a better system and has Manning throwing to him but has increased competition for touches.I'd say this is fairly even.

 

[Poppa]

Team A gave up Edelman, Julian NEP WR;Wallace, Mike PIT WR;Nelson, Shawn BUF TE; the 2010 1.01 & 1.02

Team B gave up Britt, Kenny TEN WR;Gage, Justin TEN WR;White, Roddy ATL WR

MOX HP...

20 man rosters / start 9 w/K & Def/ST

Number of Starting RBs: 2-4

Number of Starting WR+TEs: 2-4

1PPR WR

2PPR TE

 

[finito]

Was offered:

Calvin Johnson

for

Reggie Wayne, '10 1.01

I declined. Would rather have Wayne/Bryant.

horrid, cj is > then wayne/1.1, CJ is a once in a lifetime WR.

I agree that this traqde is horrid, but in the other direction. With the stats the way they are, you can argue that the offer should be CJ and a pick (not necessarily a first rounder) for Wayne. If anything, it should be an even swap. physically, CJ is a once ina lifetime WR, but so far in FF Wayne has outplayed him. I know it all depends on the scoring system but in my league this is how they scored the last three years:
Wayne: 116.0 87.0 124.0 = 327Calvin: 75 132.0 62.0 = 269CJ is younger and has more physical talent and is the number one target but his situation is much less desireable as he faces double coverage and his QB is still young. Wayne plays in a better system and has Manning throwing to him but has increased competition for touches.

I'd say this is fairly even.

If Calvin is a "once in a lifetime WR" then he is going to have to break every one of Jerry Rice's records to live up to expectations. He is going to have to outperform Randy Moss' best season. He is going to have to be so far ahead of every other WR that he will be considered the greatest WR to every play the game and no one will have a compelling argument against it. Is this possible? Sure.

Is it likely? Probably not.

I'll take Wayne's production for the next three seasons which should be comparable to CJ, and I'll take Dez Bryant's upside as a top 10 WR. Maybe I will be eating my words in a couple of years but right now I'm happy I did not take the deal.

 

[Spike]

Wow.

If I was the owner of the "elite" WR in any of the trades mentioned so far there is no way I would have made a single one of those deals. I own AJ and Calvin and had an owner offer me Shonn Greene and 2010 Pick 6 for either one of them and told him he wasn't even in the ballpark.

I am thinking of trying to acquire Roddy White and plan to offer Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams for White and a 2011 1st. I think that would be a fair deal for the other owner because his RBs are terrible. However, I think from a pure value standpoint I would be destroying him.

If I acquire White I would consider moving him to the Greene owner if he was willing to include his 2010 Pick 6 and 2011 1st. But I am not sold on this potential move. I would be short on RBs but really don't want to give up an elite WR for what may end up being spare parts/"potential" guys.

My league is fairly typical with the exception that we reward all yards and passing TDs a little less than other leagues. This tends to devalue QBs and RB/WRs who aren't big TD producers.

Start 1/2/3/1/1/1

12 teams

Salary cap/contract league

You'd be offering an awful deal. Not sure how you think it's fair but that's your call.

 

[Spike]

Zealots league, I was offered and declined:Get: Jerome Harrison, ColstonGive: Calvin

Why?

 

[purplehaze67]

Zealots league, I was offered and declined:Get: Jerome Harrison, ColstonGive: Calvin

Why?

First off, as a general rule, I don't like to be the side giving away the single-best asset for multiple lessers. Doesn't really seem to work out that well for me.As it relates to this specific trade, I'm not sold that Harrison will be any more than a flash-in-the-pan, with little real, week in, week out value in 2010 and beyond. Yeah, he had a great few weeks at the end of the year, with fresh legs and vs some pretty uninspiring run defenses. Prior to that, he's had 3+ years of doing doodly-squat. He's stuck on a pretty bad team that figures to be playing from behind a lot, which isn't all that conducive to a sustained ground game and although I don't follow the Browns that closely, I'd suspect that they will be bringing in some competition for carries, either thru the draft or in FA.FBGs apparently agrees with me, ranking him as dynasty RB #45. That's a low-range FF RB #4 in a 12-team league. I guess ok in a pinch as a bye/injury fill, but nothing more.That's not enough to convince me that it's worth dropping from CJ to Colston.Obviously, you feel the CJ end is better or you wouldn't have offered the trade to begin with.

 

[5Rings]

Zealots league had this one go down yesterday, though I have a feeling it won't help much here since it's all WRs:AJ/Wayne for Fitz/VJax/4th round rookie pick

Ah, Holden pulled the trigger

 

[5Rings]

good question:anyone sold Moss? now might be the time to sell. trying to gauge some trade value.

Just sold off Moss in a PPR league.Moss/Schobelfor1.02/Choice/Jacoby Jones/Durant

I can't believe Moss/Schobel would pull that much. Nice job. Highway robbery.

 

[Uncle Buck]

IDP Dynasty League

18 team league

starting roster is 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1TE, 2DE, 2LB, 2DB

scoring for LBs in my league is TK 4.5 points, ATK 2 points, int 15 points, FF 7.5 points, sack 10 points, pdef 4 points

scoring for WRs in my league is 1.5 PPR, 10 points per TD, 1.5 points for every 5 ReYds

I got reggie wayne for curtis lofton, 10th overall and 12th overall rookie picks

 

[ty247]

I've been offered in a 2QB league,

Roddy White

for

Hakeem Nicks, 2010 1.6, Matt Leinart

Who makes out in this deal?

 

[finito]

I've been offered in a 2QB league,Roddy WhiteforHakeem Nicks, 2010 1.6, Matt LeinartWho makes out in this deal?

Pretty even. White is the best player but Nicks/1.6 might be the way I would lean. I think this depends on team needs.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I've been offered in a 2QB league,Roddy WhiteforHakeem Nicks, 2010 1.6, Matt LeinartWho makes out in this deal?

Pretty even. White is the best player but Nicks/1.6 might be the way I would lean. I think this depends on team needs.

In a 2QB league 1.6 is very valuable (a lot of good not great QBs coming out) and Leinart still has some value since he'll probably at least get a chance to start with Fitz. I think that is paying a lot for White. If you already have 3 solid QBs and are big-time win-now mode, it is worth it, but for most teams I would sit on Nicks and bet he's a solid #2 next year and that between 1.6 and Leinart I get one legit starter out of it.

 

[FavreCo]

Anyone moving Marshall, Calvin Johnson or Roddy?

No way and never.

 

[LOCO]

Anyone moving Marshall, Calvin Johnson or Roddy?

No way and never.

Marshall was traded for Moss/Pierre Thomas.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I just gave Chad Henne and a 1st rounder this year for Greg Jennings and a 1st rounder next year.

 

[finito]

I just gave Chad Henne and a 1st rounder this year for Greg Jennings and a 1st rounder next year.

Robbery unless it was a very high pick this year.