Dynasty RB: PPR / Reggie Bush or Darren McFadden (1 Viewer)

[KellysHeroes]

I find these 2 very close in PPR... at what others think

 

[Cookiemonster]

McFadden, while unknown in the NFL and (according to us) lacking some much needed skills for the NFL, is going to a pretty good situation. Raider haters, hear me out...

1st, you know Al Davis didn't draft this guy to split carries w/ the likes of J.Fargas or M.Bush (Jordan is gone soon).

2nd, all of the mediocre RBs in Oakland put up very good #s last year. Jordan was kicking ### 'till being overweight and out of shape caught up to him. We all know Fargas put up over 1K in limited starts, and Rhodes had two 100 yard games at the end of the year.

3rd, he's more talented than any Raider RB since Garner. Cable will have had a full year, working on his 2nd with this underacheiving O line who, in their 1st season under Cable, went from a total, confused disgrace, to a unit that could run block as well as most and improved immensely at pass blocking (though still sub-par).

4th, Russell was the 1.01 last year, but missed all of training camp and preseason and isn't ready to carry this team. The Raiders will have to run to keep their mega-million $ QB safe and improving.

 

[Andy Herron]

Are you kidding?

A proven player in Bush to go with a proven QB in Brees, vs. an unproven, albeit high-potential player in McFadden to go along with an unproven QB, whomever it may turn out to be?

C'mon. I'll take Bush without giving it a second thought. Sure, he's not the dynamo everybody expected, but still...

Give me Bush with that high-powered Saints offense any day.

I wouldn't put any kind of faith in the Raiders just yet.

 

[DenverBroncos]

Many consider Reggie Bush one of the top 10 RB draft busts of all time.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Many consider Reggie Bush one of the top 10 RB draft busts of all time.

I don't know that I'd go that far, but Saints' fans are talking about whether P.Thomas should be getting the majority of the carries.

 

[massraider]

Many consider Reggie Bush one of the top 10 RB draft busts of all time.

Many watch reality TV, eat Spaghetti-O's, and vote for George Bush.

 

[DenverBroncos]

Ain't nothing wrong with spaghetti'o's!!

 

[One]

Had McFadden gone to Denver's ZBS everybody'd be high on him.

It's the 'uncertain' Oakland situation that gives people cold feet on McFadden ...even though Oakland outrushed Denver during '07 in only its first year utilizing the ZBS.

 

[moderated]

In PPR Bush is an animal. In non-PPR i'd take McFadden, but it's not even very close in PPR, Bush all the way.

 

[massraider]

I don't care what kind of league, I take Bush. PPR? The question really shouldn't be asked.

He's on a stable team, with an established QB, in a high-powered offense. McFadden hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet. Bush is a safer play.

 

[trader jake]

Bush...the PPR makes this a no-brainer.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Had McFadden gone to Denver's ZBS everybody'd be high on him.It's the 'uncertain' Oakland situation that gives people cold feet on McFadden ...even though Oakland outrushed Denver during '07 in only its first year utilizing the ZBS.

Thank-you!

 

[gianmarco]

So, KellysHeroes, are you giving up Bush for the 1.1 or vice versa?

 

[cstu]

I know I wouldn't trade away McFadden straight up for Bush.

 

[mdog1967]

I don't care what kind of league, I take Bush. PPR? The question really shouldn't be asked.He's on a stable team, with an established QB, in a high-powered offense. McFadden hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet. Bush is a safer play.

I really hate agreeing with one of your posts, for once you make a logical point. I guess everyone get it right once in a while.

 

[KellysHeroes]

So, KellysHeroes, are you giving up Bush for the 1.1 or vice versa?

Nope.. already done most of my drafts. I just see these 2 as very similar right now and wondered what ever one else thought.One draft I offered 1.01 for Bush.. no goAnother draft, I was offered MB3 for 1.01 /2.10 and took it.I have an auction league coming up where I'm 1.01 again (it was a nad yr last yr) and there I'm taking McFadden since his Rookie $$ is very good.

 

[Two Deep]

I don't care what kind of league, I take Bush. PPR? The question really shouldn't be asked.

He's on a stable team, with an established QB, in a high-powered offense. McFadden hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet. Bush is a safer play.

yeah with bush you know you will get about 3.6 yards a carry.

 

[Patoons]

I don't care what kind of league, I take Bush. PPR? The question really shouldn't be asked.

He's on a stable team, with an established QB, in a high-powered offense. McFadden hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet. Bush is a safer play.

yeah with bush you know you will get about 3.6 yards a carry.

Thing is that it's a PPR. YPC won't really matter if they continue to dump off the rock to Bush and use Pierre to carry the ball between the tackles.Thomas / Bush could be a nice combo for the Saints this year.

 

[socrates]

I think it is a very close call. On one hand you have Bush who is more of a known quantity . . . but he is not the back many predicted coming out of college. Yet, he is still quite valuable in a PPR league. He does not, however, seem to fit the mold of an every down back.

McFadden is like that Christmas gift tucked under the tree you haven't opened yet. Perhaps he could be what Bush is not -- an every-down back. I don't expect McFadden to be a bust, so at least he should be a good change-of-pace back, and at best he can be what Reggie Bush was billed to be.

I don't think the risk is that great in taking a gamble on McFadden. Sometimes you have to roll the dice.

 

[switz]

Many consider Reggie Bush one of the top 10 RB draft busts of all time.

Then many people are foolish.Nearly 1,000 yards his rookie season, 6 TDs, plus return yards - his team made the playoffs from being loser the year priorOver 1,300 yards his second season, 8 TDs, plus return yards - on a team struggling through injuriesThat's a bust????

 

[the spanker]

Many consider Reggie Bush one of the top 10 RB draft busts of all time.

Then many people are foolish.Nearly 1,000 yards his rookie season, 6 TDs, plus return yards - his team made the playoffs from being loser the year priorOver 1,300 yards his second season, 8 TDs, plus return yards - on a team struggling through injuriesThat's a bust????

Switz please give me your top 10 RBs in PPR this year.

 

[cstu]

I think it is a very close call. On one hand you have Bush who is more of a known quantity . . . but he is not the back many predicted coming out of college. Yet, he is still quite valuable in a PPR league. He does not, however, seem to fit the mold of an every down back.McFadden is like that Christmas gift tucked under the tree you haven't opened yet. Perhaps he could be what Bush is not -- an every-down back. I don't expect McFadden to be a bust, so at least he should be a good change-of-pace back, and at best he can be what Reggie Bush was billed to be.I don't think the risk is that great in taking a gamble on McFadden. Sometimes you have to roll the dice.

The other issue is McFadden is almost 2.5 years younger and I believe is the youngest RB in the league. Bush is proven, at least in PPR, so it depends on how much you believe in McFadden. I personally think he'll do very well considering what Fargas was able to do. He problably won't do better than Bush this year though.

 

[Stitch]

I know I wouldn't trade away McFadden straight up for Bush.

That's crazy. In a ppr league it's not even close! Bush>>>>>>McFadden

 

[UnknownCoach]

Bush is one of the best receiving backs ever and a guaranteed stud in PPR as long as he's around.

McFadden will likely have an up and down fantasy career IMO. When he's up, he's a stud like Bush. His upside is the same as Bush's. However the downside is definately lower.

This is easy.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Talent / Size

Mcfadden >= Bush (hard to determine this since McFadden hasn't played a down yet, but I got the feeling that McFadden is going to be a better runner than Bush)

Pass Catching Opp

Bush >> McFadden (only Westy has an equal opp to catch Passes like Reggie, Reports are that DMac should compile a good # of Recs as well)

Running Scheme

McFadden >>> Bush (Oak Running scheme gives McFadden a huge adv of Reggie when it comes to Rushing Yds)

Competition for Touches

McFadden = Bush (both seems to have a good competition for touches,

DMac has Fargas and then Bush has Duece who are both Injury prone,

DMac has M Bush and R Bush has P Thomas... both are really unknowns and can steal a good amount of touches.)

GLs: the money shots

Bush > McFadden (if its one thing that Reggie has impressed me, he can get the short yds. He is very effective at GLs and I'm sure the staff will notice. It seems that the Raiders may be planning to use Bush at the GL because of his size.)

Overall Team

NO >>> Oak

I give Bush the slight edge since you already know what your getting while McFadden's usage is really a mystery until we see him play.

 

[Chachi]

Reality check: Reggie Bush and Adrian Peterson are EQUALS in PPR leagues. This is assuming Bush plays as crappy as he did last season and AP plays as well as he did last year. Their weekly averages are identical last season, they each scored 17 points per game played in.

 

[Pictus Cat]

You know what I love about Bush?

He does it all. Whatever a defense is weakest at, New Orleans can use him there.

I like having a guy like that on my fantasy team. Every week starter.