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Given the age difference and potential situation difference, I'm not sure I'd call it a "big hit in value" in a dynasty setting - but your overall point remains valid.
You can't use injury to prove this point. Had that same trade been Hunt instead of Cook this would be a clear win.
You are using a pretty obscure example and incomplete one. Hunt probably has the best start any running back has ever had in fantasy as a rookie.
I don't understand what could possibly make this obscure or incomplete. You cited a panic move. Trading DJ for a 3rd round RB that went off his first week in the NFL is the very definition of a panic move and yet it would have paid off.
The same can be said for using a guy who happened to have a fluke ACL injury as an example.
I've been considering this exact trade (except moving Ajayi). The Cook owner is currently 4-0.
What does he have left? Being 4-0 he's not desperate so he can be patient. I think Ajayi is the perfect offer for him. Solid enough now to replace the points in the lineup and enough long-term optimism that the Cook owner isn't feeling like he's flushing his potential.
Because you are using hind sight. At the time it was bad value for D.J., whether it was Cook or Hunt.
Well he's starting Ellington and Gillislee this week, but he also has Freeman (bye) and Montgomery. Start 2rb and 2 flex.
Don't feel too bad. I would reject Brandin for Calvin pretty easily. I might consider it if it was best ball or very deep starting lineups.Made that exact same offer, rejected.
Right, only trade for injured players.
Seems reasonable. I'd take arob, but don't blame anyone for taking Parker.
Obviously we don't know your taxi rules or salaries but I'd take 3 years of DJ over the other two for their careers. And I kind of like Kamara, own him in one Dyno.
This was my thought as well. Stunned he didn't accept it. I don't mind paying hard for guys I like and I'm all in on Engram and Kamara in PPR leagues and this is 1.0 PPR for RB and 1.5 for TE. This was (would have been?) 1/2 a win now move for me since I'm getting 0's for DJ and 1/2 a future move for me getting Kamara and Engram for long-term deals.
Nope. At least not on my part. I have a loaded roster but it's going to age and the price DJ will command isn't something I can easily hoard up with all the others I'll need to match before then. I have Hopkins and Evans hitting RFA in the next two years, I'm going to have to play it very tight already just to keep those guys. Never mind the fact I'm getting 0's in my lineup from DJ right now. I'm a legit contender and I'm not going to sit on my hands with this roster when I can go put points into my lineup. Payout for this league is about $1500 to first place so the now is a lot more important than the later.
I know you're perfect and all and have all the answers but do you play in the leagues I am in with expiring contract terms and Free Agency? Because yes, 3 years. You know, dynasty stuff - long term planning and roster management.
Sorry, I am only the winningest dynasty player in the FFPC (as in highest average finish, I am not in 10 leagues like some of the people) mainly by using window of opportunity to my advantage, coming off three straight titles and looking for a 4th in my last remaining FFPC league. What do I know.
I take it that's a no, you don't play in this format? You play in a league(s) with no IDP, with small rosters, and that does not have a contract structure with free agency management? Because while I agree that this trade would be awful in a format like FPPC where you can do a two for one then go grab a solid option off the wire, the resources are a lot more constrained in these leagues.
I still have OBJ the #1 receiver and would not expect to add anything major (or at all) to him to pick up Evans.
Agree, but you're gonna have to throw something at the guy if you want the points now. If he's looking to next year Evans is the better keep with the better stability at QB so if you're contending and want the points in the lineup now be prepared to give something moderate up. That's what I'm hoping to draw out in this thread too - what are the points this year worth to you?
That's certainly part of it. An injured receiver whose QB might not have that much longer just can't be the top receiver imo. But I do tend to group Beckham and Evans together.
I have Evans in two leagues. I'd need at least a late 1st to move him for OBJ, even if I was going full on rebuild. The points in the lineup this year should be worth that to a contender.
Unfortunately I own him in all three of my leagues.
I did originally too, but after looking closer I would take OBJ all day. But if you're chasing a championship I totally get it and would make this trade if I had OBJ in such a situation.
Yes, top 5 still. I do not own him, but I would hold if I did. I tried to get him in both leagues & both owners said untradeable.
I saw him go for Cam straight up, only trade I personally have seen. There was a blockbuster I posted in the Dynasty Trade thread involving Cam but that had a lot of other pieces involved.
I don't think so. Rodgers is a lot better than Cam. The age difference doesn't matter because Cam relies more on rushing TD that will likely decline in years ahead. Cam will be 29 next year.
